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[QUOTE=Long420;2992660]Sharks is full of scammers until you go with a local or someone like the legend. The girls there will eat you up especially Chinese / Asian tourists.
90% scammers and terrible management.[/QUOTE]No problem at all with Sharks management and staff, when I m a foreigner. Girls are independant workers. Yes, many ask crazy, so you have to find those really worthing their rate.
[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2992658]You're right, $150 for 60 minutes is low, but I've never paid any working girl in any FKK for 1 hour.
I never understood men who needed 60 minutes to get off.
If you're at that stage in your life where it takes longer, take Viagra.
If the girl doesn't get you hard, get another girl.[/QUOTE]If you are into fast turkish suck and fuck, I don t pay for so low quality and 100 is way too expensive for this. I enjoy foreplay, making cum girls, and I m a real fucker. For my game, 1 hour is quite short for me. Versus Sharks now crazy rates, I use my techniques experienced with escorts agencies and play tramp, to get more time and control rate. Enjoyable new game, even a bit stressful.
[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2992658]You're right, $150 for 60 minutes is low, but I've never paid any working girl in any FKK for 1 hour.
I never understood men who needed 60 minutes to get off.
If you're at that stage in your life where it takes longer, take Viagra.
If the girl doesn't get you hard, get another girl.[/QUOTE]I would be very very surprised if you were over 40 years old. When I was under 30 I wanted to demonstrate my stamina, fuck like a machine, cum at least twice if not go for more. Only when I got into my 30's and 40's did I realise how shit a lover I was and this "stamina" and fast fucking was not doing anything really for girls who would moan but get little out of it. By my 50's I had learned a lot. I learned how to make a woman beg for more, tease her, tease me, take time, build it, let it subside, build it higher, relax, build it to crescendo. Only then did I believe the cries of "incredible" and "best ever".
I loved the days of 50 euros for 30 when I could "trial" girls for 50 to see who I would select for a fabulous 2 hour session.
You say you never understood men who "needed 60 minutes to get off".
I don't understand now anyone who wants to get off in 15 or 30 minutes.
Boring sex. Boring for her and false illusions of being Casanova for "lasting" 10 minutes non-stop. Incredible? No. Boring? Yes.
Now, I'm not interested in anything less than an hour and regularly want 90 minutes or 2 hours.
I want a complete performance from me and given to me. That isn't really possible in 60 minutes let alone 30.
To each their own. How time changes psychology.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2992842]I would be very very surprised if you were over 40 years old. When I was under 30 I wanted to demonstrate my stamina, fuck like a machine, cum at least twice if not go for more. Only when I got into my 30's and 40's did I realise how shit a lover I was and this "stamina" and fast fucking was not doing anything really for girls who would moan but get little out of it. By my 50's I had learned a lot. I learned how to make a woman beg for more, tease her, tease me, take time, build it, let it subside, build it higher, relax, build it to crescendo. Only then did I believe the cries of "incredible" and "best ever".
I loved the days of 50 euros for 30 when I could "trial" girls for 50 to see who I would select for a fabulous 2 hour session.
You say you never understood men who "needed 60 minutes to get off".
I don't understand now anyone who wants to get off in 15 or 30 minutes.
Boring sex. Boring for her and false illusions of being Casanova for "lasting" 10 minutes non-stop. Incredible? No. Boring? Yes.
Now, I'm not interested in anything less than an hour and regularly want 90 minutes or 2 hours.
I want a complete performance from me and given to me. That isn't really possible in 60 minutes let alone 30.
To each their own. How time changes psychology.[/QUOTE]I find funny when girls say: You fuck more than in 20's guys, for sure I m not so fast and bigger than average, when many girls tell: many guys don't fuck. Seem many guys prefer to speak, for therapy, like some preferring to gossip about other guys, rather than fucking. Saving vagina for girls and reason why some really busy are so tight like a virgin when You enter, when You get them after many other guys. I experienced once more, not long ago, reminding me 20 June 2015 at World.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2992204]You will NOT get CIM + SW service for 150 EUR in Sharks. For the time being, no sharks girl will give you one hour service for 150 EUR on any slow days let alone give you CIM + SW. Because you have not visited Sharks for a long long time, you have become a foolish fantasy dreamer. I got one hour CIM + SW services from a very beautiful girl with snow white skin and pretty face. Her DFK skill was excellent with a lot of tongue actions. For the time being, this kind of DFK will cost you 50 EUR to 100 EUR extra above the regular 250 EUR one hour session.[/QUOTE]Can still find few, but more and more rare and only if You are not named tourist, for 150/60 , but now more ask 200/60 and more and more ask 250/60 for FK. Can still find 100/30 with FK, BBBJ, DATY and fucking for who is able, with Rachel, Lori, Ginger, Amira ex LR and some others. Be careful about extra for FK, not worthing for Ruxy ex Magnum for example, when her best potential is for fucking, if You are able.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2992842]I would be very very surprised if you were over 40 years old. When I was under 30 I wanted to demonstrate my stamina, fuck like a machine, cum at least twice if not go for more. Only when I got into my 30's and 40's did I realise how shit a lover I was and this "stamina" and fast fucking was not doing anything really for girls who would moan but get little out of it. By my 50's I had learned a lot. I learned how to make a woman beg for more, tease her, tease me, take time, build it, let it subside, build it higher, relax, build it to crescendo. Only then did I believe the cries of "incredible" and "best ever".
I loved the days of 50 euros for 30 when I could "trial" girls for 50 to see who I would select for a fabulous 2 hour session.
You say you never understood men who "needed 60 minutes to get off".
I don't understand now anyone who wants to get off in 15 or 30 minutes.
Boring sex. Boring for her and false illusions of being Casanova for "lasting" 10 minutes non-stop. Incredible? No. Boring? Yes.
Now, I'm not interested in anything less than an hour and regularly want 90 minutes or 2 hours.
I want a complete performance from me and given to me. That isn't really possible in 60 minutes let alone 30.
To each their own. How time changes psychology.[/QUOTE]As a matter of fact I'm 45 years old. My first visit to any FKK was in 2003, it was Artemis in Berlin and I was in my early twenties doing a backpacking trip across Europe after college graduation.
After I discovered Artemis I found the others and since first experiencing a true FKK back before the 2017 "gummi" laws, rules and Eastern Euro trash entering into the EU and eventually the FKK's, it was like heaven! German, Polish, Dutch, Czech and other beauties in the clubs all working for $50 Euro for min with kissing, DATY, BBBJ. No haggling, or negotiating just a look and off the room we went!
Back then and up until 2017 when the prices started jumping up to $100 Euro for basic 30 min service with some kissing and some BBBJ, I would knock out 5-6 girls in one afternoon / evening. After prices went up post 2017 "gummi" law I couldn't spend $700 a night, so I had to cut my sessions down to 2-3.
Never in my 20+ years of going to any FKK did I need more than 10-20 minutes to bust a nut. I will admit that in the last 7 years I started taking viagra. Not because I needed it, but because it made my erection much harder under conditions not as ideal as before 2017. Ex. Less attractive women in the clubs, many now wearing clothes and not showing all their goods, snippy little nasty bitches trying to negotiate for every dollar, girls getting upset with you because you won't go to the room, etc, etc, etc. These are the conditions that are turn offs for me and ultimately led to me wanting to take Viagra.
But to respond to your post, the last thing I want to do is go into a room and try and prove something to one of the hookers, like how much stamina I have, because they couldn't care less! Besides the more time it takes to nut the more tired I'll be during the next session, which ultimately means less sessions in a night. I'm not paying to pleasure them or try and turn them on, it's all about me and it should be as I'm paying. If you're going into each room with the delusion that you're going to have an exceptional time if you can turn them on and pleasure them, and you'are willing to pay for an hour to try and prove it to them, so be it. I won't and don't need to play into that delusion in a working girl house. I'm there to eat food, sauna, get off, repeat and then get out. And maybe an occasional massage.
Lastly, I usually know right away if I'm going with a girl because I will get hard when she walks by me. This instant attraction tells me I'll cum quickly and won't need 60 minutes. If I don't get turned on by her pheromones and swagger, I'm not going to be convinced by her salesmanship. I've accepted a handful of girls over the years from salesmanship alone and I did cum, but like in your case it took me longer with more effort, which wasn't optimal for me. There's also been a few girls that convinced me to stay longer in the room, which I did, but only because they were some of the top stunners (Club Globe) I've been with and they let me BBCIP, but I still ended up regretting it because I can't cum for than once in 30-45 minutes. So I'll stick with my method as it has worked for me for 20+ years.
[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2993108]My first visit to any FKK was in 2003, it was Artemis in Berlin and I was in my early twenties doing a backpacking trip across Europe after college graduation.[/QUOTE]It must have been a cheap visit for you because Artemis didn't open until 2005.
[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2993108]As a matter of fact I'm 45 years old. My first visit to any FKK was in 2003, it was Artemis in Berlin and I was in my early twenties doing a backpacking trip across Europe after college graduation.
After I discovered Artemis I found the others and since first experiencing a true FKK back before the 2017 "gummi" laws, rules and Eastern Euro trash entering into the EU and eventually the FKK's, it was like heaven! German, Polish, Dutch, Czech and other beauties in the clubs all working for $50 Euro for min with kissing, DATY, BBBJ. No haggling, or negotiating just a look and off the room we went!
Back then and up until 2017 when the prices started jumping up to $100 Euro for basic 30 min service with some kissing and some BBBJ, I would knock out 5-6 girls in one afternoon / evening. After prices went up post 2017 "gummi" law I couldn't spend $700 a night, so I had to cut my sessions down to 2-3.
Never in my 20+ years of going to any FKK did I need more than 10-20 minutes to bust a nut. I will admit that in the last 7 years I started taking viagra. Not because I needed it, but because it made my erection much harder under conditions not as ideal as before 2017. Ex. Less attractive women in the clubs, many now wearing clothes and not showing all their goods, snippy little nasty bitches trying to negotiate for every dollar, girls getting upset with you because you won't go to the room, etc, etc, etc. These are the conditions that are turn offs for me and ultimately led to me wanting to take Viagra.
But to respond to your post, the last thing I want to do is go into a room and try and prove something to one of the hookers, like how much stamina I have, because they couldn't care less! Besides the more time it takes to nut the more tired I'll be during the next session, which ultimately means less sessions in a night. I'm not paying to pleasure them or try and turn them on, it's all about me and it should be as I'm paying. If you're going into each room with the delusion that you're going to have an exceptional time if you can turn them on and pleasure them, and you'are willing to pay for an hour to try and prove it to them, so be it. I won't and don't need to play into that delusion in a working girl house. I'm there to eat food, sauna, get off, repeat and then get out. And maybe an occasional massage.
Lastly, I usually know right away if I'm going with a girl because I will get hard when she walks by me. This instant attraction tells me I'll cum quickly and won't need 60 minutes. If I don't get turned on by her pheromones and swagger, I'm not going to be convinced by her salesmanship. I've accepted a handful of girls over the years from salesmanship alone and I did cum, but like in your case it took me longer with more effort, which wasn't optimal for me. There's also been a few girls that convinced me to stay longer in the room, which I did, but only because they were some of the top stunners (Club Globe) I've been with and they let me BBCIP, but I still ended up regretting it because I can't cum for than once in 30-45 minutes. So I'll stick with my method as it has worked for me for 20+ years.[/QUOTE]For my almost weekly experiences in FKK land, 2017 law had 0 effect, except registration, but already not many Russians able to speak Russian, or Polish, or Czech in 2016 . For else: BBBJ, FK, DATY, nothing changed with 0 extra. On 2020 til March and from July 2021 , I used to pay 100/60 for GFE at Sharks, except with Melissa and Catalea for 150/60 and I loved Catalea nipples hardening. Inflation really arrived at Sharks on 2022 and increasing on 2023 . Club asked girls for 80/30 and 130/60 , but girls prefer slow business than making more money at the end of the week. Versus inflation, I decided to adapt, being much more demanding for level, playing poor tramp and I keep on finding enjoyable. When GG where I had 150/60 full GFE, is unfortunately closed, when I didn t find yet at YY where 70/30 , Sharks is best for me at the moment, since 3 months, even I was happy to find a fresh GFE supermodel at Globe, but I find same level for less expensive at Sharks where I have now usually 100/150 enjoyable GFE rooms, but even a foreigner not speaking German, I lead the game with my tool and knowledge of women, so, no over time asked for my experiences.
[QUOTE=Samplerr;2993140]It must have been a cheap visit for you because Artemis didn't open until 2005.[/QUOTE]Alzheimer at 45 . When You fuck longer, You have more time to remember rabbit was faster but turtle finished first.
[QUOTE=Bonsai;2992566]Hobbyist is a senior poster with more than 800 posts.
I guess he got plenty of experience what he is doing and paying.
I think the others just want to say, that the girl would also agreed with 300 instead 400. Cum+SW+Fingern ass.
How about you try it out at Oase this week.
I'm pretty sure the girls will also do it for less than 400.[/QUOTE]I found an average looking girl with enhanced tits. She agreed to do what I wanted for 300 EUR in Oase.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2993175]For my almost weekly experiences in FKK land, 2017 law had 0 effect, except registration, but already not many Russians able to speak Russian, or Polish, or Czech in 2016 . For else: BBBJ, FK, DATY, nothing changed with 0 extra. On 2020 til March and from July 2021 , I used to pay 100/60 for GFE at Sharks, except with Melissa and Catalea for 150/60 and I loved Catalea nipples hardening. Inflation really arrived at Sharks on 2022 and increasing on 2023 . Club asked girls for 80/30 and 130/60 , but girls prefer slow business than making more money at the end of the week. Versus inflation, I decided to adapt, being much more demanding for level, playing poor tramp and I keep on finding enjoyable. When GG where I had 150/60 full GFE, is unfortunately closed, when I didn t find yet at YY where 70/30 , Sharks is best for me at the moment, since 3 months, even I was happy to find a fresh GFE supermodel at Globe, but I find same level for less expensive at Sharks where I have now usually 100/150 enjoyable GFE rooms, but even a foreigner not speaking German, I lead the game with my tool and knowledge of women, so, no over time asked for my experiences.[/QUOTE]Well you're living in a different world then me French man. I never paid more than $50 Euro for 30 min in any FKK until around 2017 and for the year or two after the law passed.
Once the girls found out that the clubs couldn't control prices they started to ask for more. They received guidance from women's groups that advised them on their rights. It took a few years for them to all get to a point where they asked for $100 Euro, I'd say it was around 2002-2003. Now, don't misinterpret what I'm saying, I can still find lots of girls to give me $50 Euro basic 30 min service in clubs around Frankfurt, but it's only a few and you have to get them during the day or find a girl that isn't busy that can be negotiated with, as many men won't.
[QUOTE=Samplerr;2993140]It must have been a cheap visit for you because Artemis didn't open until 2005.[/QUOTE]My apologies, it was 2005 because I remember going to their 10 and 20 year anniversary party.
[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2993108]As a matter of fact I'm 45 years old. My first visit to any FKK was in 2003, it was Artemis in Berlin and I was in my early twenties doing a backpacking trip across Europe after college graduation.
After I discovered Artemis I found the others and since first experiencing a true FKK back before the 2017 "gummi" laws, rules and Eastern Euro trash entering into the EU and eventually the FKK's, it was like heaven! German, Polish, Dutch, Czech and other beauties in the clubs all working for $50 Euro for min with kissing, DATY, BBBJ. No haggling, or negotiating just a look and off the room we went!
Back then and up until 2017 when the prices started jumping up to $100 Euro for basic 30 min service with some kissing and some BBBJ, I would knock out 5-6 girls in one afternoon / evening. After prices went up post 2017 "gummi" law I couldn't spend $700 a night, so I had to cut my sessions down to 2-3.
Never in my 20+ years of going to any FKK did I need more than 10-20 minutes to bust a nut. I will admit that in the last 7 years I started taking viagra. Not because I needed it, but because it made my erection much harder under conditions not as ideal as before 2017. Ex. Less attractive women in the clubs, many now wearing clothes and not showing all their goods, snippy little nasty bitches trying to negotiate for every dollar, girls getting upset with you because you won't go to the room, etc, etc, etc. These are the conditions that are turn offs for me and ultimately led to me wanting to take Viagra.
But to respond to your post, the last thing I want to do is go into a room and try and prove something to one of the hookers, like how much stamina I have, because they couldn't care less! Besides the more time it takes to nut the more tired I'll be during the next session, which ultimately means less sessions in a night. I'm not paying to pleasure them or try and turn them on, it's all about me and it should be as I'm paying. If you're going into each room with the delusion that you're going to have an exceptional time if you can turn them on and pleasure them, and you'are willing to pay for an hour to try and prove it to them, so be it. I won't and don't need to play into that delusion in a working girl house. I'm there to eat food, sauna, get off, repeat and then get out. And maybe an occasional massage.
Lastly, I usually know right away if I'm going with a girl because I will get hard when she walks by me. This instant attraction tells me I'll cum quickly and won't need 60 minutes. If I don't get turned on by her pheromones and swagger, I'm not going to be convinced by her salesmanship. I've accepted a handful of girls over the years from salesmanship alone and I did cum, but like in your case it took me longer with more effort, which wasn't optimal for me. There's also been a few girls that convinced me to stay longer in the room, which I did, but only because they were some of the top stunners (Club Globe) I've been with and they let me BBCIP, but I still ended up regretting it because I can't cum for than once in 30-45 minutes. So I'll stick with my method as it has worked for me for 20+ years.[/QUOTE]Bravo!
Me too.
Anyone know if the girl named something like nadina still works at sharks? If not where did she go? She's Romanian, long dark hair, petite, natural face / body, has tattoos on her arm one of a 1911 LOL.
[QUOTE=CaptainPicard;2993449]Anyone know if the girl named something like nadina still works at sharks? If not where did she go? She's Romanian, long dark hair, petite, natural face / body, has tattoos on her arm one of a 1911 LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes, Nadine with big saggy tits was seen this week.