Panama City

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1166213]Thanks very much bro. I really appricate the help. What would you consider the top three. Five places to visit?

This is helping me a great deal! [/QUOTE]My top five picks,

Top Massage Parlor / Brothel: Golden Time.

Top Places for Freelancers: Veneto Casino, Habano*

Top Strip Bar if you want to get laid at a reasonable price: Miami.

Top Strip Bar if you aren't looking to get laid or are happy paying U.S. prices: Elite**

*Late at night La Bodeguita on Calle Uruguay was often better than Veneto or Habano, and I liked the live music. But I haven't been there since the action shifted to the location on Espana. Also, Che has recently gotten one or two decent reviews for freelancers but I haven't been there either. I think, but am not sure, that Che is also a late night hangout.

**Elite's gay choreographer is responsible for some first class entertainment. Elite is my favorite strip bar if I'm not looking to get laid on the premises. Others prefer Le Palace. The shows aren't as good, but arguably the women on average are hotter than Elite.

"Too many greedy Colombian pros there in it only for the buck and not the fuck. There are far better options out there offering much, much better service."
Hello, everyone, this isn't any personal attack to anyone at all, it just happens that this comment tickled me because I hear it over and over again.

If you are mongering you [I]should[/I] Know by now that they ARE in the business for the MONEY AND NOT for the fuck!

If you are looking for warm fuzzy from these girls, you are looking in the absolutely less likely place where you can find that (though it can be found, but good luck on that)

[QUOTE=GauntMan; 1166380]If you are mongering you [I]should[/I] Know by now that they ARE in the business for the MONEY AND NOT for the fuck!

If you are looking for warm fuzzy from these girls, you are looking in the absolutely less likely place where you can find that (though it can be found, but good luck on that) [/QUOTE]No, I'm not looking for "warm and fuzzy." I'm looking for top notch service how I like it. I look for it all over the world. And if you think girls are in it only for the buck and not the fuck . . . then partner you ain't been to Brazil!

The truth is that I have been to Panama, and I actually enjoyed it the first time. Even did a report on it. But not now. Even Costa Rica is better.

And what about the guys that treasure the GFE (not me by the way)? Are you telling all those guys they have unrealistic expectations looking for that in a place like this? If anything approaches warm and fuzzy, a GFE does, and LOTS of guys want that my friend.

Sorry to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] you off, but I keep it real and tells it like I sees it.

[QUOTE=The Cane; 1166394]No, I'm not looking for "warm and fuzzy." I'm looking for top notch service how I like it. I look for it all over the world. And if you think girls are in it only for the buck and not the fuck. . . Then partner you ain't been to Brazil!

The truth is that I have been to Panama, and I actually enjoyed it the first time. Even did a report on it. But not now. Even Costa Rica is better.

And what about the guys that treasure the GFE (not me by the way)? Are you telling all those guys they have unrealistic expectations looking for that in a place like this? If anything approaches warm and fuzzy, a GFE does, and LOTS of guys want that my friend.

Sorry to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] you off, but I keep it real and tells it like I sees it. [/QUOTE]Again, this wasn't meant to start any flame wars or to attack anyone. I just ewanted to highligh the fact that many people who post here keep complaining about the cold attitudes of some providers. GFE CAN be had, but in the mongering scene, is a rare find. Myself, I consier myself a GFE searcher, I could drop a hot stunner 12 in the scale for a 7 that is known to me to give excelent service.

And no I'm not pissed off at all, I just wanted to start an intelligent debate on the subject that matters to us all.

[QUOTE=GauntMan; 1166404]Again, this wasn't meant to start any flame wars or to attack anyone. I just ewanted to highligh the fact that many people who post here keep complaining about the cold attitudes of some providers. GFE CAN be had, but in the mongering scene, is a rare find. Myself, I consier myself a GFE searcher, I could drop a hot stunner 12 in the scale for a 7 that is known to me to give excelent service.

And no I'm not pissed off at all, I just wanted to start an intelligent debate on the subject that matters to us all. [/QUOTE]OK Gauntman. I understand and respect where you're coming from. I hope you see my point too. I mean, if a girl is going to be far more concerned about the buck and not the fuck, can't she at least pretend for a monger? Hehehe! I like Colombian girls by the way. I was just kind of turned off to Panama based upon my last experience. I'm sure that for other guys, they can go there and be in 7th Heaven. More power to 'um!

This is can very good for us Mongers. Panama might be coming back to life.

[quote]Director of Immigration Resigns (Finally.)

Tuesday, June 14 2011@06:24 PM EDT.

Contributed by: Don Winner.

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The director of the National Immigration Service, María Cristina González, told La Prensa that the USA government has not revoked her visa to enter that country, as stated in the local media today. Gonzalez said the last time she traveled to the US was last May and she had no problems entering the country. Moreover, she confirmed that she presented her resignation to President Ricardo Martinelli on Monday, but gave no details about the reasons for that decision. President Martinelli said this morning that Gonzalez would be replaced as the Director of Immigration, and he named police commissioner Javier Carrillo, the secretary general of the National Police as a possible substitute. On 8 June, Martinelli accepted the resignation of the Deputy Director of Immigration, Jaime Ruiz, who has not yet been replaced. Ruiz has been named in a scandal over the issuance of visas to women from different European nationalities, a case that is being investigated by prosecutors. (La Prensa)[/quote]Well, all I can say is "it's about time." I've been very critical of María Cristina González for a long time, practically since she took over. She and the people who worked for her used Immigration as their own little money factory, squeezing bribes from foreigners in vulnerable situations from all walks of life. Immigration has traditionally been one of the most corrupt organizations within the Panamanian government, regardless of which political party is at the helm. They need to fight that corruption with TRANSPARENCY. Nothing Immigration does has to be secret, confidential, or close held. They can (literally) put every single transaction on the Internet for the world to see. There should be regular and routine visits by the Public Defender to the holding cells where they (often illegally) arrest and detain foreigners. Any and all deportations should be reviewed and approved by Minister Mulino. Before they occur. That was the huge weapon used by María Cristina González. She would threaten to deport people which she could do on a whim. And if you refused to "cooperate" (pay hefty bribes) then they would put you on the next plane leaving the country, before you could put up a stink. Hopefully the next guy will be. Well. Less corrupt. This is a terribly important issue for every foreigner living in Panama.

[QUOTE=Snipps; 1166440]This is can very good for us Mongers. Panama might be coming back to life.

Well, all I can say is "it's about time." I've been very critical of María Cristina González for a long time, practically since she took over. She and the people who worked for her used Immigration as their own little money factory, squeezing bribes from foreigners in vulnerable situations from all walks of life. Immigration has traditionally been one of the most corrupt organizations within the Panamanian government, regardless of which political party is at the helm. They need to fight that corruption with TRANSPARENCY. Nothing Immigration does has to be secret, confidential, or close held. They can (literally) put every single transaction on the Internet for the world to see. There should be regular and routine visits by the Public Defender to the holding cells where they (often illegally) arrest and detain foreigners. Any and all deportations should be reviewed and approved by Minister Mulino. Before they occur. That was the huge weapon used by María Cristina González. She would threaten to deport people which she could do on a whim. And if you refused to "cooperate" (pay hefty bribes) then they would put you on the next plane leaving the country, before you could put up a stink. Hopefully the next guy will be. Well. Less corrupt. This is a terribly important issue for every foreigner living in Panama.[/QUOTE]I was dating a non-pro girl from Medellin who flew into PTY last year and was denied entry into the country to meet me there. The immigration personnel at Tocumen never told her why other than to say her passport was not in order. Complete BS. This type of discrimination and probably corruption has been operating under the radar for awhile now. Glad to hear the woman in charge resigned. But I wonder if the raids and denied entrys will stop. Alot of GOV Officials in PTY have operated this way for awhile.

[QUOTE=Joey Smith;1166585]I was dating a non-pro girl from Medellin who flew into PTY last year and was denied entry into the country to meet me there. The immigration personnel at Tocumen never told her why other than to say her passport was not in order. Complete BS. This type of discrimination and probably corruption has been operating under the radar for awhile now. Glad to hear the woman in charge resigned. But I wonder if the raids and denied entrys will stop. Alot of GOV Officials in PTY have operated this way for awhile.[/QUOTE]

Coincidentally, everytime this kind of stuff happens, a female is in charge of the Migra department. On a previous administration, the wife of some one important took the helm of the Migra departments and declared a Jyhad against all colombianas because her husband cheated her with one parserita!!

[QUOTE=Joey Smith;1166585]I was dating a non-pro girl from Medellin who flew into PTY last year and was denied entry into the country to meet me there. The immigration personnel at Tocumen never told her why other than to say her passport was not in order. Complete BS. This type of discrimination and probably corruption has been operating under the radar for awhile now. Glad to hear the woman in charge resigned. But I wonder if the raids and denied entrys will stop. Alot of GOV Officials in PTY have operated this way for awhile.[/QUOTE]Yes, I am not exactly sure what this means but I hope it stops all this corruption.

I met a gringo here who is married to a foreign latina. He and his wife and kids are all legit residents. The wife and a group of female friends were rounded up on Calle Uruguay one night and hauled to immigration for dubious reasons. She is an attractive 30-ish woman, and I assume her friends were similar, but I don't think anyone would mistake them as hookers-except for policia looking for the immigration scam. I never got the story on how they got sprung.

[QUOTE=Tp Horn;1166802]I met a gringo here who is married to a foreign latina. He and his wife and kids are all legit residents. The wife and a group of female friends were rounded up on Calle Uruguay one night and hauled to immigration for dubious reasons. She is an attractive 30-ish woman, and I assume her friends were similar, but I don't think anyone would mistake them as hookers-except for policia looking for the immigration scam. I never got the story on how they got sprung.[/QUOTE]That's pretty common with the police, specially around paydays, if a girl sounds columbian, she will be stopped and harassed even she has all her papers in working order, looking to make some money out of bribes and the like, because they will start threatening with investigation, migration checks, etc, etc

[QUOTE=The Cane; 1166394]No, I'm not looking for "warm and fuzzy." I'm looking for top notch service how I like it. I look for it all over the world. And if you think girls are in it only for the buck and not the fuck. . . Then partner you ain't been to Brazil!

The truth is that I have been to Panama, and I actually enjoyed it the first time. Even did a report on it. But not now. Even Costa Rica is better.

And what about the guys that treasure the GFE (not me by the way)? Are you telling all those guys they have unrealistic expectations looking for that in a place like this? If anything approaches warm and fuzzy, a GFE does, and LOTS of guys want that my friend.

Sorry to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] you off, but I keep it real and tells it like I sees it. [/QUOTE]The Cane- I agree 100. The issue, with Panama now is the hardened attitude of the Colombians working there. Was there two weeks ago and some are just flat out rude. They have a sense of entitlement to them. They have become clock watchers. Now let me preface this by saying the good looking ones have this attitude. This is because they are fewer now than years ago. The average and below average ones are still very nice to be with but of course looks wise you get what you pay for. It is a real shame because 5 years ago or so Panama was non touristy, great mongering spot. There were so many hotties and they were delighted to be with a gringo. Totally different now. It is a shame to see a good spot get ruined. One thing I must compliment the country on is the service at bars, hotels and resteraunts. It has gotten 10 times better than it was years ago. Even the food seems a little tastier, too bad the putas don't.

Not all are functioning, like La Palace and Elite:

[url]http://www.panamastart.com/english/directory/night-clubs-strip-clubs-escort-services.html[/url]

Club Villa Fenix looks pretty interesting, anyone ever been there?

[QUOTE=Tp Horn;1166802]I met a gringo here who is married to a foreign latina. He and his wife and kids are all legit residents. The wife and a group of female friends were rounded up on Calle Uruguay one night and hauled to immigration for dubious reasons. She is an attractive 30-ish woman, and I assume her friends were similar, but I don't think anyone would mistake them as hookers-except for policia looking for the immigration scam. I never got the story on how they got sprung.[/QUOTE]Panamanians treats Colombians as Americans treat the Mexican scum.

The new director of the National Immigration Service (SNM) , Javier Carrillo, said he hopes that the people who have to complete a procedure in this institution will not have to pay a bribe or the use of influence peddling."We hope that everyone who has to address issues regarding their immigration status in Panama can do so on an equal basis," said Carrillo, upon the conclusion of a transition meeting with the former Head of Migration, Maria Cristina Gonzalez. There he learned, at the hands of Gonzalez, the functions and procedures in the National Immigration Service, he said. Carrillo also announced that "gradually" he is going to implement measures of monitor and control in Immigration. He added these rules seek to avoid situations "that the community could feel are incorrect." Carrillo took office yesterday in a ceremony attended by the Public Security Minister, Jose Raul Mulino. (La Prensa)

Editor's Comment: Ahhhh. Big sigh of relief. Now, let's see it Carrillo follows through on his mandate of running a relatively clean and corruption free Immigration service in Panama. If he does, it will be a first. This looks and feels like a good news story for all of the members of our community of English speaking expatriates living in the Republic of Panama. Sooner or later we all have to deal with Immigration, be it when seeking a "pensionado" visa or something as simple as checking in through the airport.