Phnom Penh

I went to a girl's Apt while ago. I met her at HOD. It was a one bedroom only. It was on a narrow lane of the main road with small houses on either side. I do not know where the shower or the toilet was. She introduced me to her neighbours who were really friendly.

She said she paid $50 / month as rent. She did have a good bed.

This girl was very pretty and she stayed with me for 4 days. I paid her a total of $120 with a some clothes totalling $30. Ofcourse I did take care of all the dinners and even took her to Naga casino. Otherwise she would go and get me cheap home cooked meals for lunch.

She told me she makes almost $500 a month but needs to send part of the money to her home. Rest of the money she saves for a rainy day. She said she can afford a better Apt. But was content living in a one room apt with lots of friendly people around. In her line of business famine will hit soon and fast unless she finds a sponsor. She told me she had a sponsor before.

[QUOTE=Bartchamdo; 1121085]What I love is to hear the lady's views of working the trade. A few wonderful insights I've gleaned in the last few months:

She disliked Walkabout?"Why?" Because all the customers were old men who smoked ganja. [/QUOTE]I also like to talk to the girls to learn about their life.

You cannot smoke ganja at the Walkabout, at least on the first floor; I've tried. LOL! Maybe you can smoke on the balconey on the second floor.

You cannot smoke at the trendy Cambodian places such as Lounge and Sparks.

You can smoke on the balconey at Sharkeys.

All the staff at Martini will say you cannot smoke ganja. But I've seen people smoke (not often though). The poor working staff there won't want to mess with you.

You can smoke at LeCryee.

At the hostess bars, some will say yes, some will say please smoke outside.

[QUOTE=Bartchamdo;1121085]For those of you just passing through town briefly. I suggest you don't discuss money too much. I rarely talk about money ahead of time, and usually just hand them $15 afterwards without comment. I've never had a lady act unhappy with this. Once or twice they seemed a little too eager, as if I'd given them too much. I guess $10 is pretty common for short time with some punters.[/QUOTE]For the tourist, I wouldn't recommend not discussing price. I think it's better to have a little drama at the beginning than a lot of drama at the end.

I've heard some stories about the girl not being happy about the standard rate that the guy gave in the morning. Some girls will always want more.

That being said, it's no "problem" if you do that. The girl will have no recourse, even if you stiff her. This is not the Philippines or Thailand; she cannot call the cops. First of all, the cops won't care; she has to pay the cops to come over; the working girls in Cambodia are treated like shit (it's a shame since the country's economy has expanded on the "backs" of these working girls). Also I wouldn't fear her friends or pimp (of course there could be an exception, but unlikely).

The prices for girls went up when the price of petro went up several years ago. At Martini, the cute girls will ask for at least $20 short time (I pay the full rack rate). How hard is it to get the cute ones (the top 5 at Martini's) to agree to $15? Fairly certain you cannot get the cute ones to agree to $10. You probably can get the older or marginal ones to agree to $10.

Walkabout should have cheaper pricing pressures than Martinis. But then the quality at Martinis is better than Walkabout.

[QUOTE=Evianist;1121113]I One girl told me she'd be scared to live in a big apartment alone because of ghosts.[/QUOTE]Me too. That's why whenever I'm in Phnom Penh I go out and try to find a girl to bring back to my hotel room. Ghosts.

[QUOTE=Bartchamdo;1121085]I suggest you don't discuss money too much. I rarely talk about money ahead of time, and usually just hand them $15 afterwards without comment. I've never had a lady act unhappy with this. Once or twice they seemed a little too eager, as if I'd given them too much. I guess $10 is pretty common for short time with some punters.[/QUOTE]Exactly!

I never discuss any money on beforehand. And when they act the trick of leaving their clothes in the bathroom after 1st shower, you already know it will just be an ST. No problem, then I just pay 10$ as my excuse is always hee, I would have paid you 30$ for a whole night with at least 3 pops. So one pop is 10$. They will be confused. Leaving early or no BBBJ are also no bonus points. OK, I add a dollar for motobike taxi. But that is all. And in the end, if these girls get an average of 15$ every other day, that is a lot of riels at the end of the month. Therefore I am not so keen to visit WB or Martini's with all the other tourists and FL's. I always take a hotel in 136 street and have fun in 104 and 108. Or stay in 104 and have fun in 136.

And with mototaxi's exactly the same. You can drive half the city for 2000 riels. Just have them prepared in your pocket and put it in his hand at destination. Confusion all over as they expected a dollar, just walk away but they all will take it. And this is even no problem at all for a firsttime visitor. Know what the habits are, and it saves you a lot of money.

[QUOTE=Titanio;1121555]And with mototaxi's exactly the same. You can drive half the city for 2000 riels. Just have them prepared in your pocket and put it in his hand at destination. Confusion all over as they expected a dollar, just walk away but they all will take it. And this is even no problem at all for a firsttime visitor. Know what the habits are, and it saves you a lot of money.[/QUOTE]"Confusion all over" - A funny picture.

I wouldn't like the bitching that would occur every single time.

A lot of the moto-dopes from the tourist area or your hotel will refuse to take you if you only offer the local price; some of them wait a long time to gouge the tourist.

As I have tended to do lately, here are a few comments on various topics:

I no longer am recommending Amari hotel on St. 136 to people. I know one person who had a large amount of money stolen out of a locked drawer, presumably by the housekeeper. I had another friend check out after 2 days due to construction noise.

Yes, Cambodian girls will sometimes call the cops on you if they are pissed off enough at being what they consider seriously underpaid. It does not happen often, but it does happen. Contrary to popular opinion, however, they won't always take the girl's side. If they do, the cops will then split whatever extra money they get out of the customer with the girl.

The number of hostess bar girls who are demanding silly money is steadily increasing. I still pay no more than $15 for ST and $25 for LT, but there are girls now who absolutely won't go for less than $40-$50. Strangely, they are not always the hottest girls, and there are still plenty of really hot ones who will go for the same prices as before. One girl even quoted a friend of mine $100. She quickly came down from that figure, but he just blew her off immediately out of general principle. We even made a point of ridiculing her a bit to her face and in front of the other girls-something I would normally never do, but felt the point needed to be made. Freelancers still seem to be OK with $10-$15 ST, $20-$25 LT.

Martini and Walkabout seem to have higher percentages of Khmer chicks these days, or maybe just fewer Vietnamese.

Pontoon is a very nice bar, from a design standpoint. A bar by this name has been around for years, but it use to be on a floating barge anchored to the riverside around the night market. It has always has a string of freelancers and semi-pros (hookers who are playing the long game) that tended to arrive around 11-12, and the new bar is no different. The working girls arrived in the last half hour before they start charging a cover-which was midnight last Friday. I saw a several hostess bar girls that I knew, and some freelancers who I recognized from Riverhouse. I did not see any of the regular Heart girls. A lot of the customers were middle and up-class Khmers, however, especially when I first arrived around 10PM, so be careful and make sure the girl is really available before you start hitting on her.

Hi GB,

Nice to see you are still making the rounds. Have you or any other Cambodian mongers seen any busty (slim and stacked) Khmers or Viets in PP? Are there any bars there that feature big boobs? I don't care if they are bolt-ons or not. I'll be looking for a sweetie to take to Angor what and do a lot of boom booming.

[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1121672]"Confusion all over". A funny picture.

I wouldn't like the bitching that would occur every single time.

A lot of the moto-dopes from the tourist area or your hotel will refuse to take you if you only offer the local price; some of them wait a long time to gouge the tourist. [/QUOTE]Yes you are right. I never take a moto-dop in front of my hotel duting daytime. Just walk up the street and you will always find loads of moto-dopes. Those waiting in front of your hotel, normally waiting there all day and every day, so they are safe for an arrangement at night. During the day they are way too expensive. Well, to Cambodian standards.

And to make it all clear, during daytime I never negociate a price on beforehand, just ask them where I want to go. I don't have a map or so, I know my way around or just ask if he knows a landmark. If not take the next one.

[QUOTE=D Cups;1121799]Hi GB, nice to see you are still making the rounds. Have you or any other Cambodian mongers seen any busty (slim and stacked) Khmers or Viets in PP? Are there any bars there that feature big boobs? I don't care if they are bolt-ons or not. I'll be looking for a sweetie to take to Angor what and do a lot of boom booming.[/QUOTE]That's a pretty tough combo - slim and stacked. Usually, the girls with the large breasts is going to be somewhat fat. Of course there are exceptions.

Generally, Asians don't have large breasts; you probably should stick with Tijuana for large tits.

Generally on the average, Khmers will have larger breasts than the Viets, IMO.

I'm not really a breast man; I haven't been keeping track of large breasted girls. The next time I'm there (in couple of weeks) , I'll keep my eyes (hands) open for them.

k11 is still open for business. but not to barangs. the only whites you'll see there are ngos still creaming their cotton panties at the thought or catching a ****. they are completely oblivious of the k11 sprouting in the countryside. [/quote]

ok. did you get laid? the reports of pussy being available are still trickling in. though the place is nothing like what is was years ago when the home away from home cafe was there.

i'm defintetly going a hunting :)))

I even went to notorious KM11 but there was nothing there. Had a real hard time finding a tout to even take me there.

Hint! Wink.

[QUOTE=Sandbag102;1120481]Does anyone have any recommendations of provinces to visit off the beaten track where it may still be possible to get some good boom boom / yum yum? Pp siem reap and sihanok are not what they used to be! I may be heading back to cambo for a week or so in the next couple of months and would love a little adventure![/QUOTE]Buy a bus ticket to Sisophon. The No Gooders have not been able to crack this place. Has any one had some Khmer Rouge pussy in Pailin?

Gentlemen:

I am seriously considering my first visit to Camboida. Understanding the fact I must make my own way and do research, could you helf me with some general info:

What is this "crackdown" I read about?

Can someone recommned a good hotel in Phnom Penh with access to general mongering area. I have been told the walkabout is a good place.

It appears the going rate for short time is around $15.

Best overall mongering spots for a newbie.

All info greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Henryv;1122344]Can someone recommned a good hotel in Phnom Penh with access to general mongering area. I have been told the walkabout is a good place.[/QUOTE]I highly recommend Na Na Hotel & Café Restaurant.

Nº.1B2B, Dekcho Damdin (St. 154)

12210 Phnom Penh.

Tel 023 6926 987.

HP 017 373 872.

It's on the corner of 154 and Pasteur, a 5-minute walk from Walkabout, only $20, including breakfast and very clean.

[QUOTE=Asianpussylover;1122206]Buy a bus ticket to Sisophon. The No Gooders have not been able to crack this place. Has any one had some Khmer Rouge pussy in Pailin?[/QUOTE]You need to have bug repellent in Pailin. Drug resistant malaria is endemic there