Any girl that approaches you in China is unlikely to be freebie.
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Any girl that approaches you in China is unlikely to be freebie.
Dear All,
I would like to share with a site that I just came across listing a lot of apartment girls and QQ contacts:
It's called 5CCL and you can access all the posts by sharing your own link after signing up:
[url]http://www.5ccl.info/ons/?92654-1.html[/url]
You can use Google Translate to understand what it's all about.
Have fun and happy new year.
You hit the nail on the head. I'll see where it goes tonight.
[QUOTE=Mtraveller; 1115554]Brilliant report, thanks Johnny. Last time I was freebie hunting 5 years back I also felt a bit like that.
To summarize my opinion: "its like two virgins fucking". Neither you NOR the girls were quite sure whether this was P4P or a freebie, so both sides got is all messed up.
The girls were not pros but thought that they might want to try a "laowai". They have heard second hand stories from friends about laowai boyfriend with money. But don't want to be a "bad girl". You were honest about your intentions, your plans (short term visit) so she can't pretend that you will be her "boyfriend". This hardly ever works out.
Believe me, the freebie hunters (in both sexes) , are hard boiled liers when it comes to flirting. Expectations only match when an illusion is built. The guy tells the girl he comes to town regularely. The girl ask some money and / or presents under a pretext and both side "believe" it was not P4P.
I can't play that game (to much emotional stress) , so I gave up freebie hunting altogether. [/QUOTE]
I found myself with a free Sunday in Pudong; no customers to entertain, no schedule and a few thousand rmb to burn so decided to head to Bodi for my first sauna experience. A few months ago I had attempted to break my Sauna cherry at Sarcosa but when I went in there I was told they were too busy and there was a 1 hour wait.
The directions to Bodi given here are bang on. You can also Google Bodi Boutique Hotel and the address is readily available. Entrance to the sauna is to the left of the main entrance.
The fishbowl was great with 15. 20 girls in the 5-9 range. It was a little overwhelming as I did not expect to be in the same room as the girls but rather thought I would be anonymous behind a two way mirror or something. Rather hurriedly, I chose 510, a petite young lady from Dongbei.
Won't bore you with all of the details as everything went according to script and has been reported here often enough, with a few exceptions. First, I was not offered the option of a second girl at any time during the shower / wash and second as near as I can tell my session was 60 minutes tops. By that time I was more than satisfied so I did not complain, and as a non Chinese speaking laowai I would not have known how to anyway.
Finally, I thought it was sort of cute / funny that she seemed endlessly fascinated with my laowai nose. By no means do I have a big schnoz. It is a classic, average size roman nose but for some reason she could not stop reaching out to poke, prod and study it when we were not otherwise involved.
All in all it was a positive experience that went by too fast. Next time I will take my time in the fishbowl and not make a rushed decision as I did here.
Pardon my ignorance but what's QQ?
[QUOTE=Bblover; 1115614]Dear All,
I would like to share with a site that I just came across listing a lot of apartment girls and QQ contacts:
It's called 5CCL and you can access all the posts by sharing your own link after signing up:
[url]http://www.5ccl.info/ons/?92654-1.html[/url]
You can use Google Translate to understand what it's all about.
Have fun and happy new year. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1115619]Pardon my ignorance but what's QQ?[/QUOTE]A chat service like MSN Messenger or Yahoo Messenger.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1115619]Pardon my ignorance but what's QQ?[/QUOTE]A Chinese imitation of MSN and facebook.
Almost all locals use it.
IMHO Johnny you are barking up the wrong tree.
You won't find many real Freebies in bars that cater for expats.
Its market based economic reality.
If you are looking for a freebie, catch a plane home go, to your local bar and focus on the skanky looking ladies!
China is country where $ is almost a religion
The other night I called one of the craigslist ads for massage (ling ling). A girl answered and said she'd be right over. Well it took nearly an hour, but she finally showed up. She definitely was NOT the girl pictured in the ad. She tried to say that she changed her hairstyle, but she knew I wasn't buying it. She was decent enough looking, so I thought I'd go for it. The ad said 200 RMB for an hour massage. She said she wanted 600 for nude massage and HJ (no oral). I agreed. She then told me to pay her in advance. I told her I would pay her when she was done, but she kept demanding I pay her first. I didn't want to give in, and was getting tired of arguing. I just wanted her to go. She asked for 100 RMB for the taxi. I gave her 40. She refused to leave. She still wanted to do the massage for 600, but at this point I was not in the mood. And after our shouting match I couldn't see how either of us could enjoy it. I finally opened the hotel room door, put her purse in the hallway. When she still did not leave, I grabbed her and forcibly removed her from the room. Fortunately, she left without anymore yelling. After that I decided no more craigslist. Anyone else have any better experiences?
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1115482]Re the WGs who post pics and phone numbers in the women seeking men section on craigslist worth calling? How much do they typically charge? Do they look like their pictures? Any info or advice appreciated.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Acejack; 1115633]IMHO Johnny you are barking up the wrong tree.
You won't find many real Freebies in bars that cater for expats.
Its market based economic reality.
If you are looking for a freebie, catch a plane home go, to your local bar and focus on the skanky looking ladies!
China is country where $ is almost a religion[/QUOTE]Tons of freebies in China. Mind you I never find in in bars. If you are no older than 35 maybe bars will work. But being in my mid-50s, I use the net and have a very high success rate with ladies 25 to 35 years old.
[QUOTE=Carage; 1115630]A Chinese imitation of MSN and facebook.
Almost all locals use it. [/QUOTE]QQ was created way before Facebook and I believed that MSN chat and QQ was launch around the same time.
Mmlouie
Seventeen, I think you did the correct thing.
What is the legal age for this in China? Stupid question but is there a legal age in Shanghai.
[QUOTE=Ronin500;1114554]About 20-25 girls, all looked better than 6 and many I would have liked to try. Ended up picking a very cute, mid-height girl but when we got to the room and were chatting she told me she is only 17 so I told her that is too young for me and I asked her if I could change, which was okay. (Sorry guys, my daughter is 17 so I just didn't want to tap that).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mmlouie; 1115645]QQ was created way before Facebook and I believed that MSN chat and QQ was launch around the same time.
Mmlouie[/QUOTE]They added a bunch of features AFTER whatever MSN and Facebook came out with.
That goes for voice support, blogs / social networking, and Flash games.
The point is that is just something the locals use all the time.
Westerners tend to be very suspicious of it because no body believes the company and its service could exist thus far without giving the PRC gov an exclusive backdoor.
Oh, I almost forgot. QQ was called QICQ when it launched, it made no effort to conceal who it was ripping off.
The name was changed QQ after a lawsuit and foreign capital threatened to pull out.
If I remember things correctly.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1115532]Guys, I would like your opinion on the strangest woman situation I've ever been a Part of. Sorry in advance for poor typing I am on an iPhone.
I'm in a hotel, my first time in shanghai. I take a taxi to xin tian di to get food and drink and hopefully pick up a freebie. Many women hassled me, you want girl? Etc. I waves them all away. Tonight I decided to have some balls and talk to girls. It was a freebie or nothing. Sometimes I need the thrill of the chase.
Would you guys call her? What do you think is up with her? [/QUOTE]She asks for $$ to f*ck, half up front before even going to your hotel room. Straight up ho. DTB while you can, who knows what other games / requirements she would have in store for you.
So many great WG in China with substantially less drama.
IMHO
[QUOTE=Acejack; 1115633]IMHO Johnny you are barking up the wrong tree.
You won't find many real Freebies in bars that cater for expats.
Its market based economic reality.
If you are looking for a freebie, catch a plane home go, to your local bar and focus on the skanky looking ladies!
China is country where $ is almost a religion[/QUOTE]Disagree, I have picked up freebies at Brown Sugar (local girl with a rich daddy) and some other dance club in there, in the mall part. M1nt was another with lots of girls to be picked up, no working girls that I saw.