Angeles City

[QUOTE=JimmyTug;2967925]My first visit to AC / Balibago was 1996. I was mid 30's and from the moment I came to town it was like being a rockstar. Paid half the time only. Fast forward to almost 30 years later. Is the below really the state of things? Korean only girls. Only chubsters for the Western older guy? I'm now early 60's. But all girls in Thailand think I'm late 40's. I look young for my age. I'm not ugly or overweight.

I just left Bangkok after being there a year. Most girls want 3000 THB that are any good. I got tired of the city. Pattaya seems to be still an option but it is way to crowded for me now. It is not like it used to be in the late 90's. Even 2012 was pretty good but steadily got more crowded with punters overpaying right and left who just found what they think is paradise, never having experienced the times years ago.

So, please any comments as to the westerner mongering conditions in AC. I was thinking of going, now I'm getting discouraged. Long flight from west coast USA to CRK.

What gives? What's it really like? More trip reports please. Especially if you are like me.[/QUOTE]The thing is that the whole world has changed, but so far there is no better place for GFE than SEA. If anybody knows otherwise, please let us know. AC is convenient, and relative cheap, compared to other places, even if the prices have tripled.

[QUOTE=JimmyTug;2967925] So, please any comments as to the westerner mongering conditions in AC. I was thinking of going, now I'm getting discouraged. Long flight from west coast USA to CRK.

What gives? What's it really like? More trip reports please. Especially if you are like me.[/QUOTE]There is no single answer to your questions. WC and OAU have tried to put it in perspective. Each monger is different in their outlook, expectations, and tactics. My suggestion is a refinement of WC's RTFF advice. Look at individual reports from AC and try to visualize yourself in the poster's shoes. What works for WC, OAU or anybody else may not work for you. As OAU points out, things have changed everywhere. Koreans operate differently than Western men, and their stock in AC has risen. So try to look through the lens of Western posters who describe their scores in AC. Also, lots of favorable reports from Cebu. Why limit yourself to AC?

[QUOTE=JimmyTug;2967925]My first visit to AC / Balibago was 1996. I was mid 30's and from the moment I came to town it was like being a rockstar. Paid half the time only. Fast forward to almost 30 years later. Is the below really the state of things? Korean only girls. Only chubsters for the Western older guy? I'm now early 60's. But all girls in Thailand think I'm late 40's. I look young for my age. I'm not ugly or overweight.

I just left Bangkok after being there a year. Most girls want 3000 THB that are any good. I got tired of the city. Pattaya seems to be still an option but it is way to crowded for me now. It is not like it used to be in the late 90's. Even 2012 was pretty good but steadily got more crowded with punters overpaying right and left who just found what they think is paradise, never having experienced the times years ago.

So, please any comments as to the westerner mongering conditions in AC. I was thinking of going, now I'm getting discouraged. Long flight from west coast USA to CRK.

What gives? What's it really like? More trip reports please. Especially if you are like me.[/QUOTE]Think that all the answers to your questions have been dealt with in some detail by myself and multiple other board members that have made multiple trip reports and comments, so please read back through the forum.

Most mongering destinations are not the same now as they were 20-30 years ago, take thailand which has to be the number one mongering destination in asia, its not the same today as in the distant past but still has more than enough to bring big numbers back year after year, I put that down to a whole package, excellent food, cheap good hotels, safety, modernity, thousands more girls than any other asian destination, girls that are not prejudice to one nationality, girls that are happy to be paid only after they have performed etc.

Angeles on the other hand always offered very little outside of girls, once the girls started to think they were princesses instead of the hired help the asians in large numbers arrived and started throwing money around like its going out of fashion at the prettier angeles girls, bars allowed massive lady drinks comissions enabling the girls to be drinks only or dancers only, bars demanding full payment up front for ewr without wanting to guarantee a girl will even fuck or stay more than a very short while, so people started voting with their feet to not put up with all the bullshite any more.

As I said above, I and many have written countless angeles bar and girl reports, girl prices, drinks prices, what bars are korean, what bars are western, what to expect, its all there to read, enjoy.

Angeles is far from what it was even when I first started going but it's worth a quick trip. I've changed I now live in Pattaya so when I go to AC I'm not pressed to have any chick I may see. I enjoy bar hopping and just looking around. Also I like Korean food the Korean food there is better than what's on offer in Pattaya. I was there in June and thought it sucked but I was there with a buddy who is currently there now and he loves it likes it more than Pattaya I think he is crazy but hey. I hate Songkran in Pattaya so in April I'm going back with an open mind and I'm going to give it another shot. Some positives from when I was there. I thought that Mega Dance had hot chicks only thing they weren't customers but rather the bottle girls or bikini chicks they had working this time I'm going to see if I can get one or a couple of them. Also I'm going to look on here and the Philippines site on what gogos have the best chicks. I'm going to find out if it's true they only give Koreans attention or if they'll go with a non Asian.

[QUOTE=Shemp;2968022]I'm making my 1st trip to AC / Manila arriving at 6:50 am on the United flight from SFO. I want to go directly to AC but am confused by all these T3, Bay 14. NAIA references. Is this Genesis bus the best way other than a private transport? If so, when I arrive where do I go to catch the bus at the airport? Do I need to buy a ticket in advance?[/QUOTE]You are over thinking it.

Your United flight will land in Manila NAIA Airport, Terminal 3. After passport control and baggage claim you will exit into the arrivals area. You can go left or right, it doesn't matter which way. Money exchangers will be in front of you. Change some money for the Genesis bus. 430 pesos is the fare.

Exit the arrivals area. Only one way out. Walk 10 feet, look up and you will see big letters BAY 6 or some number. Go to the right towards the higher numbers until you see BAY 14. Stop. Walk out to the median for BAY 14. There will be a Genesis kiosk. More than likely a big Genesis bus behind it.

You will land between 6 am-7 am. Genesis buses are at 7 am, 8 am and 9 am. You pay after you get on the bus. Tell the conductor you are going to SM Mall. At Sm Mall you can trike to your hotel.

Thanks to all who replied to my post. I'll scan through the posts for trip reports. It's a bit tough sifting through the thread but I'll do it. I've lived in Pattaya probably a total of 6 or 7 years on and off since 2012. Last time I was there I was amazed how quickly things had changed even in the 18 months I was state side. All the pot shops, condo's springing up especially in my old favorite Jomtien. Just stupid with Russians and 2 week punters. I did find the girl situation way better than Bangkok. 50% the price of Bangkok gals. Anyways. I may venture to Latin America to check out what else is available in the world.

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;2968168]Angeles is far from what it was even when I first started going but it's worth a quick trip. I've changed I now live in Pattaya so when I go to AC I'm not pressed to have any chick I may see. I enjoy bar hopping and just looking around. Also I like Korean food the Korean food there is better than what's on offer in Pattaya. I was there in June and thought it sucked but I was there with a buddy who is currently there now and he loves it likes it more than Pattaya I think he is crazy but hey. I hate Songkran in Pattaya so in April I'm going back with an open mind and I'm going to give it another shot. Some positives from when I was there. I thought that Mega Dance had hot chicks only thing they weren't customers but rather the bottle girls or bikini chicks they had working this time I'm going to see if I can get one or a couple of them. Also I'm going to look on here and the Philippines site on what gogos have the best chicks. I'm going to find out if it's true they only give Koreans attention or if they'll go with a non Asian.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;2968168]Angeles is far from what it was even when I first started going but it's worth a quick trip. I've changed I now live in Pattaya so when I go to AC I'm not pressed to have any chick I may see. I enjoy bar hopping and just looking around. Also I like Korean food the Korean food there is better than what's on offer in Pattaya. I was there in June and thought it sucked but I was there with a buddy who is currently there now and he loves it likes it more than Pattaya I think he is crazy but hey. I hate Songkran in Pattaya so in April I'm going back with an open mind and I'm going to give it another shot. Some positives from when I was there. I thought that Mega Dance had hot chicks only thing they weren't customers but rather the bottle girls or bikini chicks they had working this time I'm going to see if I can get one or a couple of them. Also I'm going to look on here and the Philippines site on what gogos have the best chicks. I'm going to find out if it's true they only give Koreans attention or if they'll go with a non Asian.[/QUOTE]The Mega Dance girls are scared to talk to customers because they're getting fired if they do business on the premises, have a note ready with your info on it and slip it to the girl when she passes by, you may get lucky.

The research into the bar beauties, and their locations, is useless, because everybody describing it here have different taste, and standards, also it seems that it's fluid and changes during the day. Just poke your head in, and see if it's to your liking or not.

Everybody complains about the LDs, personally I don't see what's the big deal in spending a few bucks for having an erotic conversation up close and personal with a beautiful young lady, even if it doesn't lead to nothing else. Try that in the West, and you end up arrested.

[QUOTE=Shemp;2968022]I'm making my 1st trip to AC / Manila arriving at 6:50 am on the United flight from SFO. I want to go directly to AC but am confused by all these T3, Bay 14. NAIA references. Is this Genesis bus the best way other than a private transport? [b]SNIP[/b] Do I need to buy a ticket in advance?[/QUOTE]You don't buy a ticket in advance. The Genesis bus departs every hour; if one is full (rare), take the next one.

T3 = Terminal 3. The airport has 4 terminals. T3 has about 15 bays on the departure level. The outside bays (taxi area) are simply sequenced numbered areas for passenger pickup. The Genesis bus parks at T3, bay 14, drops off the inbound customers it just brought from AC, then sits and waits for customers to board who want to go to AC (you). Its about p400-p500 in cost. Grab a seat on the bus, and a conductor will come around and collect the fare.

[QUOTE=Shemp;2968022]If so, when I arrive where do I go to catch the bus at the airport?[/QUOTE]Be more specific. Where are you arriving: T1, T2, T3, T4? The terminals are not connected internally like other major airports. If you arrive at T3, then just collect your luggage and walk outside to the taxi area and find bay 14. If you think you are in the wrong place, ask anyone where the Genesis bus is located. If you are arriving at a different terminal, you will have to taxi from that terminal to T3, then find bay 14.

[QUOTE=Shemp;2968022]Is this Genesis bus the best way other than a private transport? [/QUOTE]Difficult to answer, and a question we've tackled previously. Private transport will run you about p3500 each way. Some taxi drivers can be had for p3000-4000 one way (you negotiate). The bus is the cheaper option. For private service, Google Beeway Travel (or search it in FB, they have a page there with their email and phone number), or do an Advanced Search here in ISG for their contact info that I've posted before. You pay in cash at the end of your ride (p3500 last time I used it), and if you arrange pickup prior to your trip, they are waiting for you at your terminal when you arrive.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2961216]The reasons are slowly fading away.

Fun and slim 19 yos left decades ago.

Cheap fucks left years ago.

A few recent report have even had girls turning their noses up at bareback.

G.[/QUOTE]I had a fun and slim 19 yo from fuck me three times overnight in Brass Knob in January. I definitely wasn't impressing her with my hotel. LOL.

Overall there is a noticeable decline on return on investment in AC since I was first there in 2010 but you can still get whatever you want. You just need to dig a little more.

A few words on mega dance night club.

Mega dance is not a place one will find many prostitutes if any at all, its a disco that is popular with pinoys, pinoys that are mainly there with their wives, girlfriend, sisters, family on a night out.

Have been to mega on a number of occasions with pinoy friends and work collegues that have nothing to do with selling themselves, also a few times with korean friends and a group of our bar girls from xs bar or madonna bar for late night dancing.

Yes there is some pretty waitresses and staff but one should be very cautios in making a play or handing out ones numbers to such, why, well many of the cute staff at mega dance are in fact dating, married or relatives of those huge guys on the door called security who just love confrontation and handing out a possible beating to want to be casanovas who thought all pinays must be pros and up for earning extra cash in between the sheets, the same goes for girls that are in groups or mixed groups of pinoy customers.

Best to go to mega dance with ones own girls or to just dance and enjoy the music, as said its not a pick up joint, far from it.

Quick update but probably won't post a lot. Arrived Friday morning and took a private car from Beeway travel from Manila to Central Park Tower in AC. People say take the bus, but $60 usd for a nice ride alone is value to me. Hell I spend more than that on Ubers on a Saturday night.

Friday and Saturday were popping on WS and lots of girls at the bars. Lollipop was packed and all the girls were as close to naked as possible. Saw a few from last year. Quality was above average. Dollhouse has vastly improved. Some real stunners on the A team. Masquerade is great vibes but quality was fairly low except for two that I had already been with last year. Still bought one a drink and chatted. Qbar had surprisingly good talent, and if you want your dick rubbed this is the top spot. Lucifer also had above average talent. Lofty's is some new bar. Absolutely terrible talent and plenty of smoking. Blue Dragon, below average but the girls seemed friendly. Shooters was great. Barfined a hottie here who probably should have been paying me she got off so hard. Keeps texting me. Might repeat.

Saturday after some bar hopping I knew I wanted to check out Mega Dance. Got there around midnight and by 1 it was nuts. Counted about 20 stone cold tens. Insane talent. They are mostly in groups and have tables and it would take good looks and charm and some luck. I got touched, danced on, and approached plenty of times, but not by any of the aforementioned tens, so I tapped out around 2 and went to my favorite 24 hour massage place. Nice teasing rubdown and then a talented BJ and then she hopped on top for a nice slow finish. Transactional but good times. This will probably be my Saturday night routine unless I land one of those tens.

The Score Birds bikini competition was a good way to kill time on Sunday. 24 girls, way better talent than usual and 3 absolute stars. You can see where they work and go find them at a later date, which I plan to do. Nap and Kokomos and bars later. Barfined a standout from Lucifer who kept smiling at me from the stage. This girl was insatiable. So far both barfines have had fantastic skill sets. Both also left after a couple of hours, but I did give them that option since I prefer to sleep alone. No condoms mentioned. Love this place. I'm here for a full month. Maybe I'll venture to another city if I get bored, but so far, not even close.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2968252]T3 = Terminal 3. The airport has 4 terminals. T3 has about 15 bays on the [b]departure level[/b]. [/QUOTE]Gents, should that have said [B]arrival level[/B]?

Hey bro,

I'm coming for 2 weeks mid April.

Thanks for the great report. Was wondering what the 24 hour massage parlour is?

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2968297]Quick update but probably won't post a lot. Arrived Friday morning and took a private car from Beeway travel from Manila to Central Park Tower in AC. People say take the bus, but $60 usd for a nice ride alone is value to me. Hell I spend more than that on Ubers on a Saturday night.

Friday and Saturday were popping on WS and lots of girls at the bars. Lollipop was packed and all the girls were as close to naked as possible. Saw a few from last year. Quality was above average. Dollhouse has vastly improved. Some real stunners on the A team. Masquerade is great vibes but quality was fairly low except for two that I had already been with last year. Still bought one a drink and chatted. Qbar had surprisingly good talent, and if you want your dick rubbed this is the top spot. Lucifer also had above average talent. Lofty's is some new bar. Absolutely terrible talent and plenty of smoking. Blue Dragon, below average but the girls seemed friendly. Shooters was great. Barfined a hottie here who probably should have been paying me she got off so hard. Keeps texting me. Might repeat.

Saturday after some bar hopping I knew I wanted to check out Mega Dance. Got there around midnight and by 1 it was nuts. Counted about 20 stone cold tens. Insane talent. They are mostly in groups and have tables and it would take good looks and charm and some luck. I got touched, danced on, and approached plenty of times, but not by any of the aforementioned tens, so I tapped out around 2 and went to my favorite 24 hour massage place. Nice teasing rubdown and then a talented BJ and then she hopped on top for a nice slow finish. Transactional but good times. This will probably be my Saturday night routine unless I land one of those tens..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2968189]You are over thinking it.

Your United flight will land in Manila NAIA Airport, Terminal 3. After passport control and baggage claim you will exit into the arrivals area. You can go left or right, it doesn't matter which way. Money exchangers will be in front of you. Change some money for the Genesis bus. 430 pesos is the fare.

Exit the arrivals area. Only one way out. Walk 10 feet, look up and you will see big letters BAY 6 or some number. Go to the right towards the higher numbers until you see BAY 14. Stop. Walk out to the median for BAY 14. There will be a Genesis kiosk. More than likely a big Genesis bus behind it.

You will land between 6 am-7 am. Genesis buses are at 7 am, 8 am and 9 am. You pay after you get on the bus. Tell the conductor you are going to SM Mall. At Sm Mall you can trike to your hotel.[/QUOTE]Update and Latest.

Genesis Bus kiosk has been moved to BAY 13. Yes BAY 13 now. A taxi stand has taken over BAY 14.

Once again as you exit Arrivals walk out 10 feet, look up to the large pillars holding up Departures level for BAY numbers in blue background, turn right, head for BAY 13, crossing over to the median. Tell them your stop, Dau or SM Clark or Clark Airport. Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2968884]Update and Latest.

Genesis Bus kiosk has been moved to BAY 13. Yes BAY 13 now. A taxi stand has taken over BAY 14.

Once again as you exit Arrivals walk out 10 feet, look up to the large pillars holding up Departures level for BAY numbers in blue background, turn right, head for BAY 13, crossing over to the median. Tell them your stop, Dau or SM Clark or Clark Airport. Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Thanks to you & WC1 for the info on gettin to AC. I'll be hoppin the bus on Bay 13. Guess I will just do the reverse when gettin back to the airport for the next leg of my journey to BKK.