Angeles City

I did not get trapped on an island. I was trying to get to one.

Generally speaking I make my plans using this guide:

Dry season Nov. Apr = explore small islands.

Wet season May. Oct = do not get trappped on a small island.

[QUOTE=JimmyTug;2971495]Whoa, everything was all good until the poster mentions "no condoms mentioned" . Wow, unbelievable. I've been going to AC and lived in Pattaya for years and would never ever bare back any sex workers. [/QUOTE]As is your 'good judgement' prerogative.

[QUOTE=JimmyTug;2971495]Appalling behavior. [/QUOTE]FG's 'good judgement' prerogative might be different than yours. Proselytizing regarding condom use (or the lack of) violates board policy*.

[QUOTE=JimmyTug;2971495]No respect for the girls health and just want your nut they way you want it. [/QUOTE]This is the AC thread. The near-entirety of the gogo bar system in both AC and on Burgos has historically been built on tons of girls willing to forgo (or even not want) any form of BC. The consensus of most board members is that Filipinas in general are somewhat averse to condom use. Many gents prefer Phils for this exact reason.

[QUOTE=JimmyTug;2971495]Are you not educated to the many STD's you can get. [/QUOTE]Pretty sure FG (and the rest of us) are so educated.

[QUOTE=JimmyTug;2971495]Not to mention HIV? . even if you are on PREP you still can get Gonorrhea, Clymidia, Syphilis and then give it to the other girls you bareback along the way. [/QUOTE]You forgot to mention pregnancy issues, and misspelled chlamydia.

[QUOTE=JimmyTug;2971495]If you could, please leave us a list of your victims so I can warn them or steer clear for my own heaths sake. [/QUOTE]Good luck. Gogo girls are often known as 'cum-buckets'. The AC gogo girl who agreed to barfine with you this evening and use a condom with you, might have just returned to the bar just before you met her, from a barfine with the guy who short-timed her bareback and popped her twice. Its a dicey situation.

[QUOTE=JimmyTug;2971495]Just appalling behavior. Leaving wreckage in your wake of getting your nut. [/QUOTE]This discussion comes up on an infrequent, but cyclical basis. Phils is not for everyone.

* [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1786-Photo-Gallery&p=1149954&viewfull=1#post1149954[/URL].

[QUOTE=Admin;1149954][blue]Greetings everyone,

I deleted several posts that were complaints and comments about the unsafe sex practices of another forum member.

Per the Forum's Posting Guidelines, Unsafe Sex Complaints may only be posted in the following Unsafe Sex Complaints threads:

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Members may also use the Forum's PM system to voice their Unsafe Sex Complaints towards individual Forum Members.

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Thanks,

Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]And (copy / paste) from Admin:

[B]Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the.

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Forum Members may not repeatedly post or otherwise taunt other Members regarding their refusal to follow safe sex procedures. Specifically, references to having sex without a condom may be made only by incidental reference and shall not be the focus of any report. Such "safe sex taunting" reports will be deleted without comment.

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It does no good to criticize members for not following what other members may consider to be safe sex practices for the following reasons:

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4. It provides a "cover" for Serial Antagonists to provoke other members.

To address the usual arguments:

1. If a guy wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's his risk and his business.

2. If a girl wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's her risk and her business.

3. If YOU want to protect yourself from either or both of the aforementioned parties, then YOU should use a condom for sex all the time and thus YOU will be protected from the allegedly unsafe sex practices of the other parties.[/B]

Walker groups appear to be very popular in Manila. Does anybody know of any groups on Facebook or Telegram for students / walkers in AC? Just looking for alternatives to the bars.

I know this doesn't belong here but I'd like to respond. Believe me I am highly informed on the STIs one can get and how one can get them. Condoms don't prevent some of them (HPV / HSV), and you can take pharmaceutical preventative measures to seriously mitigate the risk of the others (which I do while I'm here). I've also had a vasectomy. I've never gotten anything (yes, anecdotal). As always, life is risk / reward. Do what you can to mitigate risk, judge the reward, and make a decision for YOU.

That is a huge reason why guys come here. Hell some guy was jabbering away about it on the rail at Kokomos last night. I found him to be annoying.

Yes AC is quieter this week but there's still no shortage of hot girls. It is true that if you go early there's a better selection. Which sucks for me because I like to eat around 8 and go out around 9. Reports of 'only fat girls' are ridiculous. I prefer skinny / fit and have always found someone. All one has to do is watch a YouTube video of a stroll down WS on a Saturday night and you'll get the vibe. Weather currently is fantastic. Today there's light rain but the last 2 weeks have been mostly overcast and breezy. The White Party at Aqua on NYE should be fun. Although it's best to bring a date which I will probably do.

One other thing I thought was interesting is that last night one of my bargirl girlfriends (I was about to name the bar but maybe I shouldn't) told me that you can 'close down' the bar for 200 k pesos, and it's been done before. They lock the doors and all the girls get naked and drinks flow and it certainly sounded like sexual activities go down, although I didn't specifically confirm those details. Now obviously that sounds like a lot, but think about what that would cost you to do in Vegas.

[QUOTE=JimmyTug;2971495]Whoa, everything was all good until the poster mentions "no condoms mentioned" . Wow, unbelievable. I've been going to AC and lived in Pattaya for years and would never ever bare back any sex workers. Appalling behavior. No respect for the girls health and just want your nut they way you want it. Are you not educated to the many STD's you can get. Not to mention HIV? . even if you are on PREP you still can get Gonorrhea, Clymidia, Syphilis and then give it to the other girls you bareback along the way. If you could, please leave us a list of your victims so I can warn them or steer clear for my own heaths sake. Just appalling behavior. Leaving wreckage in your wake of getting your nut. How hard is it to put on a condom? So wrong man.[/QUOTE]I find it hard to believe that someone going to AC for years has just suddenly realized that all the girls fuck bareback all the time. LOL.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2971842]One other thing I thought was interesting is that last night one of my bargirl girlfriends (I was about to name the bar but maybe I shouldn't) told me that you can 'close down' the bar for 200 k pesos, and it's been done before. They lock the doors and all the girls get naked and drinks flow and it certainly sounded like sexual activities go down, although I didn't specifically confirm those details. Now obviously that sounds like a lot, but think about what that would cost you to do in Vegas.[/QUOTE]I got the girls, but here in Davao on the NYE there will be absolutely nothing happening, so in a moment of bad judgment (maybe) I bought 3 tickets to AC.

Maybe I BF 2-3 more girls, and well have a mini harem NYE orgy.

I would like to know what bar can be had for 200 k.

4000 $ is not astronomical, but is too much for right now, who knows when I feel that the end is near, I may do that once, or twice a week, I don't wanna be known as the richest one in the cemetery.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2971842]One other thing I thought was interesting is that last night one of my bargirl girlfriends (I was about to name the bar but maybe I shouldn't) told me that you can 'close down' the bar for 200 k pesos, and it's been done before. They lock the doors and all the girls get naked and drinks flow and it certainly sounded like sexual activities go down, although I didn't specifically confirm those details. Now obviously that sounds like a lot, but think about what that would cost you to do in Vegas.[/QUOTE]Best advice, don't believe all that you hear in the phills especially from bar girls.

Always find that when Angeles bar girl lips are moving they are normally 99% lying or bullshitting, its a national past time here in the phills.

Feel that wild claims of closing down bars and all girls getting naked is a prime example of this.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2971842]One other thing I thought was interesting is that last night one of my bargirl girlfriends (I was about to name the bar but maybe I shouldn't) told me that you can 'close down' the bar for 200 k pesos, and it's been done before. They lock the doors and all the girls get naked and drinks flow and it certainly sounded like sexual activities go down, although I didn't specifically confirm those details. Now obviously that sounds like a lot, but think about what that would cost you to do in Vegas.[/QUOTE]I won't mention the bar's name either. But it was posted as closed down before by a stroller when it was actually booked solid for the night by a single American and not by a Korean. 200 k pesos was the price for all the girls and drinks for the night. I believe the guy has done it more than twice. Usually about 30-40 girls working there.

200 k at today's exchange rate = less then $3500. I, myself wouldn't do it but I have known people in the states spending that much in less than a few hours in a strip club. Here you get 6 pm and on to?

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2971926]Best advice, don't believe all that you hear in the phills especially from bar girls.

Always find that when Angeles bar girl lips are moving they are normally 99% lying or bullshitting, its a national past time here in the phills.

Feel that wild claims of closing down bars and all girls getting naked is a prime example of this.[/QUOTE]Had that once, it's true that it was a bit different, was a bar on perimeter, was around closing time, there were only 5 girls (my then GF, her barmaid friend, and 3 dancers), I only got a group BJ fully clothed, and I didn't pay for it. That was the first and only, and was not planned.

Anybody can offer a bit more info on this? Are reservations needed? Is it prepaid?

Or are there any other organized events in any other bars on NYE?

I'll be arriving in the evening, so not much time to search around for the best place to be.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2971967]I won't mention the bar's name either.[/QUOTE]Many years ago, when Atlantis was the top club, there was an infamous party there. Girls still remembered it a year later. A Hawaiian and some other guy rented out the place. Can't remember how much; it wasn't that bad. I heard that they made it rain with $20 and 1000 peso bills. The manager said that fee amount pays the barfine for everyone at the club (including the service staff).

About a year ago, the Q Bar was closed for a private party. Obvious as I walked by it.

It is the best party by far. No need for reservations but I wouldn't arrive much later than 9 or the line will be long. You get a bracelet and you pay when you leave. You need looks and game to pull girls from here because it's mostly rich kids, foreigners, and barfined girls. You need at least a white shirt or they won't let you in. Last year the exit line got held up because a gringo picked up 3 LBs at the party and was confused by the exit fee (girls are 500, guys 1000). Manager had to take him aside and explain and his eyes got wide and he ran for the elevator.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2972059]Anybody can offer a bit more info on this? Are reservations needed? Is it prepaid?

Or are there any other organized events in any other bars on NYE?

I'll be arriving in the evening, so not much time to search around for the best place to be.[/QUOTE]

Funny how some on here claim all sorts as truth but refuse to name names.

Closing down a bar to have a private party is of course possible.

What is not possible is bargirls to be naked or indulging in sex on the premises at said party, why, well read the phills republic act number 10364 of 2013 (human traffic law) for exactly why not, flout the law and get caught and one might possibly spend the next 20-40 years behind bars that goes for bar owners and punters, or alternately one will be forced to pay a massive usd bribe to possibly not see the slammer, its as simple as that.

For those that will say yes but the laws exists but are not adhered to then please explain why so many bars were raided and closed down since the 10364 laws came into law in 2013 (almost all bars), why bars are still being raided, even this year, think gold moon bar (3 times), bar nana, madonna bar (2 times) and of course vikings bar that was also raided and ordered closed for good, vikings bar allowed to reopen only after ownership change, new licences approved etc which cost multiple thousands of usd in lost revenue, new set up and of course the customary bribes, now please explain why any bar that cost masses of money to set up would take the big chance of getting raided for the relative small money of a one off party, exactly, common sense tells us they clearly are not.

P,s,for those of us that were around before the new human traffic laws were introduced then full nudity, blow jobs, sex in the bar, lock downs where orgies took place were the norm, those that were around way back were the lucky ones, never to be repeated unfortunately.

Thanks and happy new year peeps.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2972059]Anybody can offer a bit more info on this? Are reservations needed? Is it prepaid?

Or are there any other organized events in any other bars on NYE?

I'll be arriving in the evening, so not much time to search around for the best place to be.[/QUOTE]Going by previous years then no organised events put on by the angeles bars, most bars also close well before midnight due to low customers and giving a chance to the bargirls to see the new year in with loved ones / family. Beware of the crazies and drunks letting off fireworks near passing folk on the street.

Aqua club on NYE can be boring and expensive, expect lots of asians with their bar fines, a very few expats and their wives, partners, well to do friends of the owners and mainly well to do pinoy couples.

As said, need to be dressed smart, normally long pants and the customary white dress shirt, stopped attending couple of years back due to boredom.

This year, at the hilton hotel right on pattaya beach and got a room directly opposite the massive fireworks display set for midnight, looks like live music is set up on massive stages on beach road too, ordering room service and a couple of bottles of bubbly and enjoy my partners company on the balcony. Contented.

P,s, pattaya packed, mostly western tourists but also plenty of teenage thai beauties getting ready for the music and fireworks.