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[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2657437]Read what you wrote. Old people die LOL. What's so funny about that? And you also said let the healthy live. You don't seem to be a Nazi at least not a real German Nazi. But you do seem to be a very angry person. Since you are so smart, what is your solution to the virus and where have you travelled in the last 3 years?[/QUOTE]Its funny how stupid people can be. I am not laughing at people dying and if you weren't so blindly loyal to your vaccine religion shit, you would have easily understood the actual meaning of my post. You really want to create national policy around people with cancer or diabetes in their 80's dying? It doesn't seem to be the healthiest thing for "all" of society. Again, you can twist my words and put your illogical biased spin on things to make yourself feel good, but I was never laughing at people dying, just laughing at your stupidity.
There is no solution at this point. You are not going to stop the virus. We should be told the truth about how effective the vaccines really were. Let people at least hold on to their jobs and keep the economy strong. Keep the schools open so our youth can receive a proper education and childhood. One thing I will give Biden credit for is he kept things open mostly.
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[QUOTE=Huacho;2657244]You have never been to Colombia based on your posting history. In fact based on your posting history you are a virgin. You probably mostly engage in felching.[/QUOTE]Huachoooooooooo Libreeeeeeeeeee LOL. Huancho, mi amigo, lets get "tacos" some time and drink a few "cervezas". I'll buy because your probably a little "short" on cash. You seem like a bueno amigo hahaha.
LOL, this isn't an attach ether, he jumped in first, I am only responding to "mi mejor amigo".
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2657472]Insane? Pretty close. I've got a bit of time to waste, so let's revisit it.
"Old people die Huacho LOL."
Not only does your opening line demonstrate a complete lack of empathy, you tack on a LOL to show that the idea of people dying prematurely is funny to you. If you're arguing that your post wasn't insane, you're off to a bad start.
"You can't make all of society suffer for a virus we haven't been able to control for over 2 years. "
I'll give you a pass on the 2 years part, even though in the US, absolutely no attempt was made to control the virus until April 2020. Let's just focus on "we haven't been able to control. "
Every attempt at control has met with fierce resistance. There was even a plot to kidnap the Governor of Michigan because people didn't want to wear masks. There was only one 4 week period when the US made a real attempt to control the virus. It was effective. As soon as it became obvious we were having success almost everyone stopped following the measures which were successfully controlling the virus..[/QUOTE]Let's be clear where you stand. So anyone who doesn't support lockdowns at this point is deranged? Anyone who doesn't support vaccine mandates is deranged? Don't go on some weird rant, just answer the question.
What country besides China has controlled the virus? Okay, maybe there is a dozen other smaller nations that did. Do you 100% believe China, a nation of 1.3 billion people are telling the full truth about the covid response in their country?
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2657521]You have a few omissions in your data irregularity discussion. The main one is people who were never tested.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately for your point of view, you got sucked into the most classic wormhole of all time, and you supported my side of the argument by pointing out my omission. Thank you, and I mean that sincerely. We agree more than disagree.
For the sake of the forum, and for me to shift my scattered attention back onto why I am here in Medellin in the first place, you may certainly have the last word if that suits you.
If we ever happen to meet up, I would be happy to bring up the topic again, if you wish. Gracias.
P.S. What you referred to as a pinnacle of my career I view as the nadir. Go figure, jaajja. Two opposites in one post that I can see. Your link was great, it felt so apropos and yet I don't know why, jajajjaa. Ostee Out.
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Jjbirdbrain goes into his long-winded posts criticizing others, often implying their lack of intelligence. Here's a couple of examples of his intelligence:
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2657502]Every job that everyone does helps others.[/QUOTE]He must consider bodily functions as jobs, since I believe those are the only things that everyone does.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2657472]You also said we need to stop shaming, I'm assuming your talking about shaming people who argue that people shouldn't get vaccinated.[/QUOTE]He appears to not know the proper punctuation to use, and he doesn't know when to use "you're" instead of "your".
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2657612]Look, the poorest people in the country got hit fucking hard from this. They got poorer with out a doubt. Inflation didn't help ether. Crime is bad and people are desperate like I have never seen them. Doing desperate things to make ends meet. Its fucking sad man.[/QUOTE]It is fucking sad, but the poorest people did not get hit hard or get poorer. Nobody is doing anything desperate to make any ends meet.
Crime is up because they made it public they would not arrest people for certain crimes. Therefore someone can go into a store and pick up $999 worth of shit and just walk right out with it, because they won't be arrested unless the value of the theft is $1000.
The government gave out and is still giving out free money and had rent moratoriums all over to help out the poor and hurt the mortgage holders the poor was paying rent to. Many people were able to quit their jobs in order to get more money from the government to stay home than they were making by working. My daughter did not even finish high school, but thanks to all the free money she is getting for her and her kids she was able to buy an Acura SUV. It will be interesting to see how she pays for it and the maintenance when the money stops.
There are tons of businesses desperate for new employees that they are doing things such as giving sign up bonuses and giving daily paychecks. But those you say are desperate and doing anything to try to make ends meet, are not desperate enough to go get one of those jobs. The lower class in the USA is definitely better off now than before the pandemic.
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2657617]We should be told the truth about how effective the vaccines really were.[/QUOTE]Seems the problem is people believing all they are told and nothing they are seeing or experiencing. After all the hard-nosing, #1 mandate champion Justin Trudeau was just announced to have covid. Lot of good that BS did him.
How many NBA players have been vaxed and contracted covid? Several of them have. Meanwhile Kyrie Irving is not allowed to play basketball in New York because he will not get vaccinated and has not caught any covid. At this point even a blind person can see the truth of how effective the shit is and should not need to be told.
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2657612]You are weird. I am not saying weird is bad either, but you are a very weird man 100%. You walk around and just hand money out to random people. Its strange man. It seems like you need to buy love and friends with money. You seem pathetic and sad. I actually feel bad for you, I hope you buy yourself some comfort. Still weird, but I honestly feel sad and I ll back off the donating money thing out of pity for a poor old soul. I don't believe in kicking a man when he is down and you have obviously fallen very low to have to give money to strangers to feel some type of love or worth or whatever it is your handing money out to strangers for.
You donating money doesn't bother me, what bothers me is you attack others all the time and can't back up your attacks with facts or logic.
If you must know about me helping people. When I was in my twenties, I did a lot of work related to my career that I wasn't directly paid for. I have grown up since and my time is important to me and I do not work for free anymore. That doesn't make me a bad person, my work is quite valuable and few have the skill, credentials, physical strength, mental strength, or determination to work at my level. My compensation is very fair for the work I do. That is how a free market works. Most men would never have made it through what I have to perform the job that I do and I certainly don't do it for free anymore and will never again. If your a bump on a log and you have never dedicated yourself to a skill or craft, that's a waste of talent in my eyes. If all of society acted like that, it doesn't make for a very productive society, think Cuba or Venezuela.
Look, again I will state that I didn't mean to shatter the feelings of the snowflakes here when I said old people die. Look, its a shitty reality of life. We can't base national policy off saving cancer patients in their 70's and 80's. Its not logical. It is funny to me, that people are so biased they actually can't see that or they know it and are so devoted to their cause they won't admit it publicly or even on an anonymous forum.
Don't blame people for the virus. The virus was spreading no matter what. That's what viruses do. Outside of a total 3 month 100% lockdown, you were not stopping the virus. Biden wasn't stopping it and nether was Trump..[/QUOTE]You wouldn't know a fact or logic if they were both tag team face fucking you. You use neither in your responses and have dodged both in every reply anyone has posted to you. Each of your posts is a continuous blather of logical fallacies combined with irrationality.
Again, you need to read and understand what you have read if you ever want to be seen as anything other than an insane troll.
Never have I said nor insinuated I "walk around and hand out money to random people. "Yet, that's what your deranged, damaged mind sees when I said "Someone has a legitimate need, if I can, I help."
Also again, if you hadn't chosen to pull me into your bitchy little twat fight, my use of my money would have never been mentioned. Accept responsibility for your lunatic behavior.
The economy. You're the one, on a psychotic break, who used the claim about destroying our economy. The economy and the plight of people living in poverty are not the same thing. If your complaint is about the effects on those living in poverty, don't talk about the economy.
Here's another tidbit of insanity from you: you pretend concern for those living in poverty, but you go complete Unibomber when I say that I help out people who are suffering and require assistance.
You just go on living in that fractured hall of mirrors which is your mind. I'll munch on my healthy snacks and wait for your next trip down crazy highway.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2657472] You also said we need to stop shaming, I'm assuming your talking about shaming people who argue that people shouldn't get vaccinated.[/QUOTE]Who the hell ever argued that people should not get vaccinated? Last I saw there were people arguing that everyone should have to get vaccinated and others arguing that it should be a person's choice on whether to get vaccinated. Nobody is out there trying to stop those that want to get vaccinated do just that.
Why do you guys keep saying this dumb shit? There is pro mandate and pro choice, not pro mandate and anti vaccination. The people that do not want the vax, do not want it for themselves. They are not anti anybody else getting it.
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2657624]Let's be clear where you stand. So anyone who doesn't support lockdowns at this point is deranged? Anyone who doesn't support vaccine mandates is deranged? Don't go on some weird rant, just answer the question.[/QUOTE]I see they took off your straitjacket again.
Here's another pro-tip for you: If you want me to answer a question, you need to post a question for me to answer. Rhetorical questions don't count. In case you're unclear on the concept of "rhetorical questions", your two questions above are rhetorical. Since you asked 2 similar questions, then asked me to "answer the question", those questions are clearly not meant to be answered. I've never said, nor insinuated either. I've pointed out that you're deranged, but that's something you illustrate with every post. In the future, ask the question, before asking for my answer.
[QUOTE]What country besides China has controlled the virus? Okay, maybe there is a dozen other smaller nations that did. Do you 100% believe China, a nation of 1.3 billion people are telling the full truth about the covid response in their country?[/QUOTE]Are you completely off your meds today? Did I mention China? I don't recall mentioning China. A quick review of my post shows no mention of China. Why are you bringing up China?
Why are you asking me what other countries have controlled the virus, when I already listed a small sampling of countries which controlled the virus? Is your insanity the result of untreated syphilis? Did you eat mercury as a child? Excessive exposure to lead? I listed 5 countries, none of which are China and you feign ignorance and start talking about China. Discussions about your sanity are warranted.
To make it more insane you say there might be other small nations which controlled the virus. Canada is the second largest nation on earth. Did you instead mean countries with a low population density? Singapore has the third highest population density. Perhaps you just meant countries with a small population? It's difficult to tell with an insane person. The fourth most populous country is Indonesia. Of their population of 273.5 million, 144 k have died from Covid, 0. 05% of the population. Would you prefer Pakistan, the 5th most populous country? The number is 0. 01%. Compare those numbers to the US, where 0. 4% of the population has died from Covid.
Go back to your padded cell. I'm sure someone will be by with your medication soon. Say Hello, to Nurse Ratched for me.
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[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2657776]Jjbirdbrain goes into his long-winded posts criticizing others, often implying their lack of intelligence. Here's a couple of examples of his intelligence:
He must consider bodily functions as jobs, since I believe those are the only things that everyone does.
He appears to not know the proper punctuation to use, and he doesn't know when to use "you're" instead of "your".[/QUOTE]Dementia acting up again?
Your inability to comprehend a simple concept doesn't invalidate the concept.
Every job helps people. Bodily functions are not a consideration, although it's probably time to change your adult diaper.
1. The employer benefits from the employee. No business can succeed if their employees cost more than they produce.
2. The businesses the employee visits benefit from the money the employee spends, money earned from the job.
3. The state government benefits from the employee. They collect more taxes and pay fewer benefits.
4. If the employee has dependents (not the same thing as the Depends you wear), they benefit from the job.
5. The employee benefits from the job, not only from the income, but also from improved mental health. However, you're beyond the point where employment could overcome your issues.
6. If the employee rents a home or buys a car, more people benefit from the job.
7. Most businesses are interdependent. One employee usually has a positive impact on many other businesses.
Ah yes. If you can't dispute the content of a post, grammatical errors are the way to go. Certainly, if someone posts enough, at some point they'll make a mistake.
However, it makes you look rather pathetic, in your case, more pathetic. In the post you quote mined, I used "your" and "you're" 11 times, with only the final use being incorrect. Shall I go through more posts, or would you accept that correct usage at least 90.9% of the time at a minimum suggests I do understand correct usage? The only other option is to believe that I'm lucky beyond belief, guessing right 10 out of 11 times.
Seriously, change that diaper. It's obvious enough that you're full of shit. There's no need to smell like it.
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If it was anyone else, I would be baffled. There have been several people on this thread who have claimed people are stupid, deluded, pandering to big pharma, suffering from Dunning Kruger and are suckers for getting vaccinated. You're one of them, as I've illustrated below. There are countless sources, on every platform, claiming the vaccines are dangerous and shouldn't be allowed. Yet, you claim that nobody has ever come out as opposed to vaccination for others?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2657813]Who the hell ever argued that people should not get vaccinated? Last I saw there were people arguing that everyone should have to get vaccinated and others arguing that it should be a person's choice on whether to get vaccinated. Nobody is out there trying to stop those that want to get vaccinated do just that.
Why do you guys keep saying this dumb shit? There is pro mandate and pro choice, not pro mandate and anti vaccination. The people that do not want the vax, do not want it for themselves. They are not anti anybody else getting it.[/QUOTE]Your previous post gave me hope. It was sensical and you made some valid points. Couldn't you have at least remained in touch with reality for 10 more minutes?
This might be beyond your ability to understand. When someone posts that the vaccines are ineffective, that they pose greater health risks than the virus, or that people are stupid for getting vaccinated, what are they really saying? Are they saying, everyone should make the decision on vaccination on their own? Or are they attempting to discourage people from getting vaccinated?
What about people who gloat about being unvaccinated and haven't had Covid? For example:
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2627585].
I am not against vaccination by the way. But I am going to drag JustTK into this because me and him were 2 unvaccinated fools hanging out together partially wearing masks all over the cesspool of downtown Medellin. I don't know about JustTK, but I felt fine in the days after, and even took a covid test that turned out to be what? NEGATIVE![/QUOTE]Especially if they preceded such a statement by pointing out someone who was vaccinated and became infected, it certainly appears to be an attempt to illustrate that it's inadvisable to get vaccinated.
Or perhaps someone who brings up a (possibly fictional) Mexican chick who they claim was fully vaccinated, but managed to have 2 separate Covid infections in less than a month (medically, something which appears to be impossible)? Then, when questioned, claims to be in possession of documentation proving the claim? What message would that person be trying to send?
How about a person who posts something like this:
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2655244]LOL. One of my chicks in Colombia just struck positive after having 3 doses. She said her 62 year old father has had zero doses and is as negative as can be. Yeah looks like the old saying is true about a sucker being born every minute.[/QUOTE]Granted, it's entirely anecdotal, up to the last sentence.
[QUOTE]Yeah looks like the old saying is true about a sucker being born every minute.[/QUOTE]Perhaps I'm reading it wrong, but taken in context it appears to be saying that people who get vaccinated are suckers. Did I misread that?
This is off the subject, but worth mentioning. How did someone in Colombia get 2 initial doses of a vaccine and then get a booster dose? Unless they were very old (which seems unlikely with a 62 year old father), they would have needed to wait 6 months (which was reduced to 4 months on Jan 11) after receiving the second dose. Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but the girls I've talked to about vaccination said they were scheduling the 2nd dose 3 months after the first dose. Assuming a person under 35, first dose, June or July, second dose in September or October, with the earliest possible third dose on January 12. It certainly seems unlikely that of the relatively few people, of a reasonable age, in Colombia, who have received a third dose (since booster doses weren't available in Colombia until mid December), you would not only know one, but you would know one with an unvaccinated father.
Again, this is just anecdotal evidence from me, but the vaccine acceptance in Colombia appears to run along family lines. The families I know tend to be vaccinated from the oldest to the youngest. I won't call your post 100% bullshit, but it certainly seems to be leaning towards the "pants on fire" level on the veracity scale.
I could have just pointed out that the bit of my post you quoted clearly states I was assuming the person I replied to was referring to people are anti-vax. But, that approach grossly limits all of the opportunities to illustrate your foolishness.
I'm on the record that vaccination is a matter of choice. It's like making up bullshit anecdotes to try and make a point which you claim to not be making. It's entirely voluntary.
I've never said the government should mandate vaccination. I have pointed out that the government has long mandated various types of vaccines for members of the military. I've pointed out that there have been many other things which the government has mandated throughout history. But those things are merely to show the hypocrisy of people arguing against mandates for the military, or against 1 particular, hypothetical mandate, when they've accepted hundreds of other mandates. I've also pointed out the hypocrisy of people arguing against "Big Pharma", when they have previously asked for or given information on buying generic Viagra in Colombia.
One other thing I've stated is that regardless of your personal stance on vaccination, you are subject to limitations based on vaccination status. If your employer requires vaccination and you fake it, you're subject to termination, if you get caught. If a country requires vaccination for entry and you fake it, if caught you face penalties. You can argue that getting caught won't happen, but everyone who gets caught for anything went in with the belief they wouldn't get caught.
Back to business.
However, private employers which require vaccination, I fully support. I'm assuming everyone, certainly everyone who leans politically towards the conservative viewpoint supports that as well. Hasn't that been a major conservative talking point for decades? Removing government regulation from private companies? Demanding that businesses not be allowed to make business decisions seems anti-capitalist.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2657788]It is fucking sad, but the poorest people did not get hit hard or get poorer. Nobody is doing anything desperate to make any ends meet.
Crime is up because they made it public they would not arrest people for certain crimes. Therefore someone can go into a store and pick up $999 worth of shit and just walk right out with it, because they won't be arrested unless the value of the theft is $1000.
The government gave out and is still giving out free money and had rent moratoriums all over to help out the poor and hurt the mortgage holders the poor was paying rent to. Many people were able to quit their jobs in order to get more money from the government to stay home than they were making by working. My daughter did not even finish high school, but thanks to all the free money she is getting for her and her kids she was able to buy an Acura SUV. It will be interesting to see how she pays for it and the maintenance when the money stops.
There are tons of businesses desperate for new employees that they are doing things such as giving sign up bonuses and giving daily paychecks. But those you say are desperate and doing anything to try to make ends meet, are not desperate enough to go get one of those jobs. The lower class in the USA is definitely better off now than before the pandemic.[/QUOTE]Well I don't have any hard facts to back up my claim and I fully admit I haven't intensely reviewed huge studies on the topic, but I do work in an urban environment full time, and I regularly deal with the cops, firemen, teachers, and nurses in the city that I live. We all say same shit, city has never been this bad since pandemic. Very strange acts of crime being committed by drug addicts who are mentally ill, youth gun violence, overdoses, long lines at the homeless shelters, etc. The city that I live in, it really looks like things have gotten worse for the lower class. It's burning a lot of city employees out too, a lot of people itching to retire these days. The people you are referring too are people who are quite capable of working if they want to, the people I am referring to have fallen off that edge and no matter how many jobs are available, they ain't getting hired or holding one down. Those number of people, "undesirables", have increased in my opinion. It sure seems like it to me anyway. Again, just my opinion.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2657825]I see they took off your straitjacket again.
Here's another pro-tip for you: If you want me to answer a question, you need to post a question for me to answer. Rhetorical questions don't count. In case you're unclear on the concept of "rhetorical questions", your two questions above are rhetorical. Since you asked 2 similar questions, then asked me to "answer the question", those questions are clearly not meant to be answered. I've never said, nor insinuated either. I've pointed out that you're deranged, but that's something you illustrate with every post. In the future, ask the question, before asking for my answer.
Are you completely off your meds today? Did I mention China? I don't recall mentioning China. A quick review of my post shows no mention of China. Why are you bringing up China?
Why are you asking me what other countries have controlled the virus, when I already listed a small sampling of countries which controlled the virus? Is your insanity the result of untreated syphilis? Did you eat mercury as a child? Excessive exposure to lead? I listed 5 countries, none of which are China and you feign ignorance and start talking about China. Discussions about your sanity are warranted..[/QUOTE]I knew you wouldn't be able to just answer a simple question haha. I asked about China because I was genuinely interested in your opinion on the topic. And your response confirmed to me that you are too sensitive and triggered about the subject to ever have any type of meaningful debate and I am wasting forum space. At least I pointed out to everyone how sensitive and unstable you are and they too should not put any weight into your posts. Your posts are worthless and you blinded by your anger.
Canada has had 3 million covid cases, you call that controlling the virus? Indonesia and Pakistan have had huge covid numbers as well as had the vast majority of nations on Earth. And the reason Pakistan and Indoneisa have lower covid numbers than USA is because most of their people can't afford testing. We will never know the real numbers of those nations. You are just so clearly clawing to anything that can resemble an argument that it just shows people who you really are, an angry old man who has no ability to look at things objectively anymore because of your biased politics.
Pakistan-1. 5 million cases, yea they really controlled the virus LOL. Indonesia 4. 3 million hahahaha. Global cases 376 million, yea the world did a great job controlling covid. You argue a great point JJB LOL.
I am waiting for another reply from you trying to attack my mental health, LOL on an anonymous forum like it has any effect on me at all, instead of actually trying to use logic to argue your point.
In the mean time, lets follow the JBB policy and mandate vaccines and boosters for everyone even though they are 25% effective and do not prevent transmission and then follow that up with lockdowns to make sure we really bring people together again and build some real unity in the country. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Shagmeister7777;2656648]I have cancelled previous trips to Medellin due to safety concerns and have finally built up the courage to plan a trip. My biggest concern is being drugged with scopalamine or some other incapacitating chemical.
How does one take precautions apart from not leaving your drink unattended? Are there any precautions suggested while you have a girl in the room? Also, what kind of secondary phone should I buy that doesn't attract people with bad intentions? Obviously I won't be walking around with my Iphone 13 pro max. Thank you in advance for your input.[/QUOTE]Like I said, I'm in Colombia all the time. I'm an airline pilot. I've never been drugged or robbed. I'm also a native Spanish speaker. That being said, don't leave your drink unattended and don't trust anyone. Be watchful of the girl. There was just an issue in Medellin with a guy who was injected with ketamine. See what the girl brings into bed with you. Have her leave her purse somewhere in the room away from the bed. Until you get to know her, if you start searching for regulars, don't trust her. And even after you get to know her be careful.
I swear by tinder even though some guys say it's a good way to get drugged. You can meet a girl on there, even while you're still in the United States if you pay for a premium membership, and build a little bit of rapport. Get to know her and let her get to know you. In addition to having great sex, you can also have someone to hang out with. Some of which will be open to threesomes and introducing you to their friends. I met one that I ended up taking to Cartagena for a long weekend. I hardly gave her any money at all. We had fun, visited the beach, went out at night, and it was really more like having a girlfriend. We had a great time.
Don't have your phone in your hand in the street. People will rob you over a cell phone. Don't wear ultra expensive clothing or shoes. Same with jewelry. Buy an inexpensive unlocked android phone, go to one of the cell phone providers, and activate a line of service for the time that you're there. It's not very expensive. About 40,000 pesos for Internet and unlimited calls. Make sure you take your passport and ask them to register the phone. If they do not register the phone it will be blocked in 14 days. Once it is blocked it will not work on any carrier in the entire country. But once you register it it's registered for life. So when you buy the Sim card have them register it. Do not buy the Sim card at a gas station or the street. Go to one of the main stores in a mall.
I am in the country several times a month, and since my divorce I'm spending a lot more time there on my days off. Since my divorce sex has been my priority since it certainly wasn't a priority for my wife while married. Haha. So hooking up in Colombia Has become my new favorite pastime. I have no experience with girls from the street, brothels, or strip clubs. I know some guys like that sort of thing. I don't particularly.