Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2537664]I don't know why people would always worry about a high and low season before. [/QUOTE]High and low season was more for the bargirls imo. They are the ones who used the term because they all looked forward to high season meaning more customers and cash. This term start diluting in Pattaya even 2 years pre-COVID as money wasn't even flowing at a higher rate for the girls in high season. Still remember girls asking me why there is no high season this year. I'm guessing it's because prices of lady drinks nearly doubled from 2015 to 2018, barfines on a certain Soi increased, and the introduction of the term models became more prominent. To me all it meant was much cooler weather in high season.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2537825]High and low season was more for the bargirls imo. They are the ones who used the term because they all looked forward to high season meaning more customers and cash. This term start diluting in Pattaya even 2 years pre-COVID as money wasn't even flowing at a higher rate for the girls in high season. Still remember girls asking me why there is no high season this year. I'm guessing it's because prices of lady drinks nearly doubled from 2015 to 2018, barfines on a certain Soi increased, and the introduction of the term models became more prominent. To me all it meant was much cooler weather in high season.[/QUOTE]Retail. High season Christmas. Make lots of money.

BarGirls. High season. Make lots of money.

A superstar in high season makes $5,000. Low season 3,000.

See the issue.

A bottom girl high season make 500 a month. Low season $300 a month.

Does matter.

To be fair last 5 years hard to tell seasons in Bangkok. Always look low season.

I think it's more how the country has been run.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2537825]High and low season was more for the bargirls imo. They are the ones who used the term because they all looked forward to high season meaning more customers and cash.[/QUOTE]It's possible that this high low season stuff was initiated by hotels as they were the quickest to use that excuse to explain their inflated prices.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2205670]You are correct sir! Thailand is completely binary. Either they do or don't, will or won't. Pattaya is completely overrun with poor and dark Isaan poon that most legit Thai men (as in non-laborers, non-motorbike taxi, or businessmen) won't go near. Newbie farang goes to Patts, fall in love and marry. Once in Sukhamvit Rd. A very hot non-pro gave me a look to kill me upon my proposition, hehe![/QUOTE]LOL. I look forward to aiding the "poor" in the LOS the Land of Smiles.

Those on BR Beach Road in Pattaya are of particular interest. From watching many youtube videos of BR it seems there may have been at least as many attractive ladies there in 2020 and 2021 as in 2018 and 2019. BTW I wonder how many of those of 2020 and 2021 would usually be working in a gogo, beer bar or other PFP pay for play venue during pre covid times.

Also I noticed that often the BR ladies are approached by those of apparently Southern Asian origin.

P.S. My Singapore report:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1831-Geylang&p=1955649&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1955649.

Post number 3 at:

[URL]https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/red-light-district-rld-of-geylang-in-singapore.200557/[/URL]#post-1513805.

555.

"I'm sure she did everything you wanted. Did you remember to deflate her after." (Strike Back, Season 1).

I went to the Den on Soi Chaiyapoon the other day. It's a very comfortable establishment, nice sofas, scantily clad ladies. My only complaint is the Mamasan who directs the ladies. Too much control.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2205670]You are correct sir! Thailand is completely binary. Either they do or don't, will or won't. Pattaya is completely overrun with poor and dark Isaan poon that most legit Thai men (as in non-laborers, non-motorbike taxi, or businessmen) won't go near. Newbie farang goes to Patts, fall in love and marry. Once in Sukhamvit Rd. A very hot non-pro gave me a look to kill me upon my proposition, hehe![/QUOTE]These dark Isaan ladies come from villages where their options for a hookup don't include businessmen, mostly they see laborers, farmers, or other working class types. So nothing new for them in Pattaya, except for the hordes of motorbike taxi guys.

What is different is that there is a concentration of Tomboys in the bigger cities, so they are exposed to that option as soon as they earn some baht. What amazes me is that I never see older ladies hooked up with older Tomboys, ie long term relationships. It's as if Tomboys are a recent innovation. I guess in the old days, Tomboys were closeted, and endured relationships with men.

BTW, if you want to know if your barfine is living with her Thai boyfriend, just ask if she has a room in the bar, if no, it generally means she shares a room with a Thai man.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2227427]IMHO guys not visiting Gogo bars fall into two categories. Ones who can't afford it and ones who are not let in. Anyone else is lying. 5555.[/QUOTE]Personally I've been in gogos and can well afford to take even the most expensive gals there, but don't care for the environment as opposed to that of the easier picking up of SWs street walkers.

Being around noisy music and customers in a smoke filled dark place where communication is more difficult is not my idea of fun.

The availability of alcohol means nothing to me as I don't drink it and prefer that my sex partner is sober as opposed to drunk out of her mind.

That I'm already well experienced with and satisfied with SWs doesn't encourage me to learn the new game of picking up ladies elsewhere.

Moreover picking up SWs requires less game. The less I have to work at getting a PFP pay for play gal the better.

Not having to dick around with or pay for lady drinks or BFs bar fines or learn the individual rules of each gogo is just a bonus incentive to all of the above to avoiding them altogether.

To each their own.

My usual M. O. is to hold off on sex until night time (unless I have barfined a lady long time). So, during the day, I prefer to go to a bar where I can play with a lady. What I am finding is that customers are so few that a lady will respond to a couple of drinks by removing her clothes, nobody is shy anymore. The level of naughtiness is a lot higher than the pre-Covid days. So, I will diddle and get diddle during the day, and hold off on a night lady.

The news today is that the number of visitors in Pattaya is 1% of the number a year ago, so the ladies are hungry.

There are still plenty of ladies, so quantity and quality are not a problem.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;2539328]Personally I've been in gogos and can well afford to take even the most expensive gals there, but don't care for the environment as opposed to that of the easier picking up of SWs street walkers.

Being around noisy music and customers in a smoke filled dark place where communication is more difficult is not my idea of fun.

The availability of alcohol means nothing to me as I don't drink it and prefer that my sex partner is sober as opposed to drunk out of her mind.

That I'm already well experienced with and satisfied with SWs doesn't encourage me to learn the new game of picking up ladies elsewhere.

Moreover picking up SWs requires less game. The less I have to work at getting a PFP pay for play gal the better.

Not having to dick around with or pay for lady drinks or BFs bar fines or learn the individual rules of each gogo is just a bonus incentive to all of the above to avoiding them altogether.

To each their own.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. I can also afford those expensive GoGo girls but I recently stopped patronizing them for the same reasons you did. I am very content with SWs, not too difficult to find decent looking girls, and much less expensive.

I find it extremely difficult to find street walkers better than a five. LOL. What gives with you two?

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;2539328]Personally I've been in gogos and can well afford to take even the most expensive gals ...

Being around noisy music and customers in a smoke filled dark place where communication is more difficult is not my idea of fun.

The availability of alcohol means nothing to me as I don't drink it and prefer that my sex partner is sober as opposed to drunk out of her mind.
[/QUOTE]This is exactly how I feel, the worst part is music is too loud. But, go-go places have some of the best looking girls and I often visit them. I go in and look around, I walk out unless I see something I want. If I like what I see, I'll buy myself a drink. I'll watch and then maybe buy my favorite girl a drink. Usually one lady drink is enough for me to decide to either bar fine or send her away. Never more than 2 lady drinks per girl. Many times I'm walking out of the bar with my BF 20-30 minutes after I walk in. Sometimes I'll buy one girl a drink and then bar fine her friend (my favorite go-go girl of February 2020 was taken that way).

I don't think I've ever spent more than 90 minutes in a single go-go. Never bought myself more than 2 drinks. Too darn noisy, can damage your hearing.

When I need vegetables and fruits, I go to the market, pick my produce, and get out. I think of the go-go places as the markets with the freshest and best looking produce.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;2539328]Personally I've been in gogos and can well afford to take even the most expensive gals there, but don't care for the environment as opposed to that of the easier picking up of SWs street walkers.

Being around noisy music and customers in a smoke filled dark place where communication is more difficult is not my idea of fun.

The availability of alcohol means nothing to me as I don't drink it and prefer that my sex partner is sober as opposed to drunk out of her mind.

That I'm already well experienced with and satisfied with SWs doesn't encourage me to learn the new game of picking up ladies elsewhere.

Moreover picking up SWs requires less game. The less I have to work at getting a PFP pay for play gal the better.

Not having to dick around with or pay for lady drinks or BFs bar fines or learn the individual rules of each gogo is just a bonus incentive to all of the above to avoiding them altogether.

To each their own.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing spending more than 500 baht a shag isn't your idea of fun either LOL.

[QUOTE=IHeartIpa;2539698]I'm guessing spending more than 500 baht a shag isn't your idea of fun either LOL.[/QUOTE]Maybe I wasn't given the memo, given to all the kool kids, but what is wrong with someone happy paying 500 bht for a shag. I wish I had the stomach to "eat" what was available for 500 baht pre-covid, but at that time my 1000-1500 baht finds were comparable to the 4000+baht gogo girls the kool kids were walking around with. More often the very same girls were available for 1/2 price out of office hours, no need to believe me. Just look back at monkeypaws posts where originally he posted that he was so proud that he could get the hottest girls paying only 4 k-6 k with all his game. But later he found the very same girls in the thermae (available to practically anyone no game needed) when they left Pattaya to go to Bangkok for some errands, available for 1500-2000. Likewise you can easily find current gogo girls working at some of the Gclubs before they start work at the gogo bars avail for 1500.

So please enlighten me what's so smart about paying full price aka the NGO kwai surcharge when you can easily enjoy the discounted price.

Anyway I'm sure you will be just as smug when you discover that the 4 k gogo girl that you barfined last week on PP arm for which he paid 500 baht because he met her out of the gogo, so please make sure you take a pic so we can all laugh at PP expense. Further come on even a guy flipping burgers can afford to go to a gogo bar and pay 6 k for a girl, so don't be claiming that guys who go there are somehow economic success compared to those who chose not to. I for one like going to the gogo, but I also think that its not economically efficient to hunt from there.

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2539639]I find it extremely difficult to find street walkers better than a five. LOL. What gives with you two?[/QUOTE]I'm with you on this, in my last trip to pattaya precovid I came sex drained after fucking 12-15 girls in the previous month, as such finding women wasn't imperative. I spent around 20 days in pattaya and everyday from 5 pm till 7 pm I would slowly walk the whole length of beach road from soi 6 to walking street looking for attractive SW and collecting their lines ID as part of my exercise regime. I would go home shower then hit the gogobars, then take another look around 12. In that period of time I believe I fucked 4-5 gogo quality girls for 1000ST, with a extra 3-4 that was acceptable for that price that I didn't follow through. Most of my finds were in lesser know bars / massage / gclubs etc and TF where I paid on avg 1500. In summary its pretty rare and labour intensive to find a 7+ SW, but its equally foolish to claim that gogo bars are the best and most economic way to hunt for attractive women.

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2539639]I find it extremely difficult to find street walkers better than a five. LOL. What gives with you two?[/QUOTE]You are just too picky! Or you don't take the time to look for decent SWs. I met a couple over the years who used to work in GoGo bars, then decided to go the FL route. According to them, more freedom and flexibility. They also claimed they made just as much money.

When I first went to Thailand back in 2003, GoGo bars were my favorites as they had the best looking girls. I did that for a good 15+ years. I took a trip every year, split between Pattaya and Bangkok. Once in a while, I ventured somewhere else, like Phuket, Koh Samui, Hua Hin, etc. But over the years, it became very clear to me that the GoGo bars model was designed to get as much money as they can from their customers. I preferred to give that money to the girls, as I thought the bars were well compensated. Those mamasans can smell the money miles away and you need their ok to get the girl out. I started to think about various tricks to get my girl as early as possible, even bribing mamasans when I could. With the arrival of the rich Koreans and Chinese mongers, it became hopelessly expensive. Yet, I was able, and still do, to find decent looking SW.