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[QUOTE=Chris Long]Does anyone know of any university’s/education centers that are close enough to monger locations yet isolated enough to where the students or school officials would not notice. I have been given the opportunity to set up a summer study abroad program in economics. Chris[/QUOTE]

All the major universities and most of the best are located in Metro Manila. University of the Philippines, Ateneo (Jesuit), and De La Salle (La Salle Brothers) are considered the best in the Philippines and are more likely to have respectable economics faculties. University of the Philippines (UP) has the best faculty in most fields of study, but the buildings, streets, and physical plant are falling apart. Ateneo and De La Salle have much better facilities, since they are institutions that sustain the elite classes of the country. Ateneo and UP are within a couple miles of each other, but they're in Quezon City, far from mongering sites except for the expensive clubs on Quezon Avenue. I'll come back to De La Salle later.

About a rung below these is Santo Thomas, located along Espana Avenue in Northeast Manila. Far Eastern University, San Beda College, and Polytechnic University of the Philippines are somewhat smaller schools, similarly in Northeast Manila. They are much closer than UP and Ateneo, but because they're North of the Pasig River, traffic often is a problem in getting by taxi to the mongering locations. If you're willing to learn to ride the light rail system, that might not be a problem.

Philippine Normal University, Technological University of the Philippines, Adamson University, Santa Isabel College, and University de Manila are somewhat less prestigious schools about a 15 to 20-minute sweaty walk from LA Cafe in Manila. I am guessing your employer will want you to be housed near the students, and that means on campus or very close nearby. So you should not plan on taking p4ps to your regular housing location. So your mongering model would need to include using short time hotels like Eurotel, Sogo, or the rooms upstairs in Amazonia. But for all of these closer universities people coming and going from campus would be unlikely to cross paths with you as you move to or from LA Cafe in the company of some p4p.

St. Paul's University, Philippine Christian University (yeah, right!), and Philippine Women's University (yeah, double right!) are less than 10 minutes walking distance from LA, but too close to risk movement too and from LA Cafe.

You might want to look up these institutions on Wikipedia and then check out their websites. Be prepared for the reality that most Philippine websites are not well maintained and have lots of deadend links. You might also download the free version of Google Earth if you don't already have it, and do a "business" search for these institutions. UP and Ateneo are in Quezon City; all the others are Manila. Also, do a search for LA Cafe. I believe it shows up as a marked restaurant or bar. Locating the universities and LA Cafe will give you a sense of the lay of the land.

When you've done all these things, then check out De La Salle. They have a very compact campus at the extreme Southern edge of Manila, and I think they have over 10,000 students. Location wise they are within a 10 minute cab ride to either LA Cafe or the EDSA entertainment complex, or, if you want, you can easily ride the LRT from right in front of campus to Pedro Gil (10 minute walk to LA) or to the corner of Taft and EDSA, about 5 minutes on foot to the EDSA complex. I saved them for last, but I strongly recommend that you start with these folks. I have some friends there, and I know they're looking for foreign partnerships.

Send me a pm if you want to know more.

Hello All,

Yes I am new to this forum and yes I fully understand about reading through the forum and posts to answer many of the newbie questions which I have been doing for the last few weeks.

My situation is one that is much different then what you fine gentlemen talk about here but because of your experiences I think you would have a wealth of helpful information for me.

To start I am not really a "Monger" who is here looking for ways to get sex from the girls. I am actually looking to find good lady for a marriage or long term relationship. I have always loved Asian women and especially the Filipina women. I have read much and researched about finding a good lady and also many of the scams these girls try on unsuspecting men. I found this site by error doing a search for scams but find much of this information very helpful in trying to weed out the bad ones.

What I am looking for is any suggestions or information from you pro's as to what I need to be looking for when contacting a girl. I am listed on DIA and do get many offers for chat and I would say that 95% of them go right for my wallet very quickly. I have heard many stories of sick relatives, need for money for school and just about every combination of money chasing out there.

Are there anyways of finding a girl who wants a relationship without raiding my wallet, or without pushing for marriage right away so she can get Visa? Some of these girls are regular pros at making you feel bad for them or hiding the real truth as to why they are interested in you.

Any pointers or info would be very appreciated.

Thanks for your help

[QUOTE=Apeman 28]Shit I am still in shock as my Aussie Visa card worked for a booking. Looks like they pulled their finger out and fixed the problem. You beauty no more paying bloody travel agents good money for nothing.[/QUOTE]Apeman,

I've noticed this also recently, but with Philippine Airlines. Last year (2009) I've tried several times to buy e-tickets online for a Philippine Airlines flight Manila-Cebu-Manila. To my biggest fustration it didn't work. After complaining many times by e-mail, and with the use of a little pressure by using their slogan "We care" I've succeeded to get the e-tickets after all.

Last week, I've tried my luck again and booked online e-tickets for the flights Bangkok-Manila-Bangkok. I was extremely surprised to see that the transaction by visa card was accepted and confirmed at the first time. Looks indeed like they pulled their finger out and fixed the problem! Hurray.

Mike

[QUOTE=Dashing Don]I saw that the PI floated a bond issue recently that was well received by the international finance community and just today, they announced another one that is restricted to the balikbayans. Whats going on? I've always thought of the pinos as completely lazy and untrustworthy, and lacking any entreprenurial instincts. The country is on par with Haiti and is an unsalvageable mess, basically an open sewer. I would have thought that the only place a foreigner could safely deposit something in the Phils was in a sperm bank. Come to think of it, those warm wet filipina pussys absorb a lot of caucasian cum shots from vacationing mongers and are akin to travelling sperm banks.

Have investors lost their minds?[/QUOTE]

With all due respect, I whole heartedly disagree with your assesment of filipinos.

Skip Kost has already given you some great info about uni in MNL.

If you have any interest in the long term success of the program, I suggest you look closely at Cebu or even some other destination. Dumaguete / Silliman Uni?

I wouldn't want to be responsible for students in Manila. There are just too many things that can go wrong. It's a big dirty city and there are security issues.

For whatever it's worth, Cebu seems to attract a lot of Korean students who come to study English.

In Cebu it would be harder to be discrete, but still doable. And if you are there long term, you might find yourself enjoying the regular ladies rather than going for p4p.

X

[QUOTE=Chris Long]Does anyone know of any university’s/education centers that are close enough to monger locations yet isolated enough to where the students or school officials would not notice. I have been given the opportunity to set up a summer study abroad program in economics. My employer will pay for me to take two weeks for exploratory set up and then it would be a summer program every year after that. This seems like a great opportunity to combine both work and pleasure while my trip cost and stay would be paid for by my employer. Any information on education centers in or near AC, Manilla, Cibu, or any of the other monger locations would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Chris[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man]Skip Kost has already given you some great info about uni in MNL.

If you have any interest in the long term success of the program, I suggest you look closely at Cebu or even some other destination. Dumaguete / Silliman Uni?

I wouldn't want to be responsible for students in Manila. There are just too many things that can go wrong. It's a big dirty city and there are security issues.

For whatever it's worth, Cebu seems to attract a lot of Korean students who come to study English.

In Cebu it would be harder to be discrete, but still doable. And if you are there long term, you might find yourself enjoying the regular ladies rather than going for p4p.

X[/QUOTE]


I would agree with X Man

if you want some links with the best colleges/unis in PI then you prob have to go to Manila but its too big to be much fun for me. Cebu has alot of unis too and as someone said is very popular with Korean students learning English. cebu would be the best destination from the point of girls in my view. Dumaguete would be the third choice, it has Sulliman Uni, one of the best in the phils and a few smaller colleges. Its a much smaller town much more difficult to do things discretely and the ratio of western retirees/hot young chicks is probably the worst iin the country.

[QUOTE=Sellmerch1]Hello All,

Yes I am new to this forum and yes I fully understand about reading through the forum and posts to answer many of the newbie questions which I have been doing for the last few weeks.

My situation is one that is much different then what you fine gentlemen talk about here but because of your experiences I think you would have a wealth of helpful information for me.

To start I am not really a "Monger" who is here looking for ways to get sex from the girls. I am actually looking to find good lady for a marriage or long term relationship. I have always loved Asian women and especially the Filipina women. I have read much and researched about finding a good lady and also many of the scams these girls try on unsuspecting men. I found this site by error doing a search for scams but find much of this information very helpful in trying to weed out the bad ones.

What I am looking for is any suggestions or information from you pro's as to what I need to be looking for when contacting a girl. I am listed on DIA and do get many offers for chat and I would say that 95% of them go right for my wallet very quickly. I have heard many stories of sick relatives, need for money for school and just about every combination of money chasing out there.

Are there anyways of finding a girl who wants a relationship without raiding my wallet, or without pushing for marriage right away so she can get Visa? Some of these girls are regular pros at making you feel bad for them or hiding the real truth as to why they are interested in you.

Any pointers or info would be very appreciated.

Thanks for your help[/QUOTE]

Hi I'm sure I and other guys with extensive phils experience are delighted to try to help but i think we need a little bit more background as to what you are looking fior and what type of guy you are etc.

Your message was using Indian English, are you or Indian background? If so do you live there or in the Us ? obviously Phil girls will be much keener to move to the US. Approx how old are you and what age lady are you looking for? Are you looking fior a sweet innocent virgin type or somebody more wild and experienced? Is educational background important for you? Do you mind if she has a big family (who are likely to see you as a source of income if you marry her?)

As a general rule if i were looking for a wife rather than fun, I would be more interested in Chinese girls, because if you are potentially offering marriage and western visa you can find a university educated girl who speaks pretty good Engliush who will accept a say 15 year age gap, The Chinese in general are hard working, entrepreneurial and have small families. If you have a well educated one, she can probably get a reasonable job when with you in the West, and if you have a job/social circle where such things are important then she is likely to be considered much more respectable amongst your friends. I would personally be very wary of getting a Thai wife, as i think the high class ones are not so interested in marrying a big age gap foreign guy and the lower class ones often either don't speak much English or are bar girls. Doubtless there will be guys here who have known of exceptions, but personally I think if you marry a thai bar girl you are asking for trouble.

If you are not so concerned about education/hard work etc and dont mind marryingt into a large family with many mouths to feed, the philly girls are a good option as they speak better English and there are millions available, they will tolerate higher age gaps than other Asian girls.

Personally I would go for a girl who is at least college/uni educated speaks excellent English doesnt have a baby etc

[QUOTE=Sellmerch1]Hello All,

I am listed on DIA and do get many offers for chat and I would say that 95% of them go right for my wallet very quickly. I have heard many stories of sick relatives, need for money for school and just about every combination of money chasing out there.

Are there anyways of finding a girl who wants a relationship without raiding my wallet, or without pushing for marriage right away so she can get Visa? Some of these girls are regular pros at making you feel bad for them or hiding the real truth as to why they are interested in you.

Any pointers or info would be very appreciated.

Thanks for your help[/QUOTE]You haven't left it long enough yet. You said 95% mention money quickly but what about the 95%.

You just need to be patient. Make sure your profile does NOT say you are looking for marriage. Say something like you are looking for friends first and will then see where the friendship takes you. Saying you are looking for a wife will attract everyone, including scammers etc.

Also. Get a thicker skin. Don't let them make you "feel bad". If you fall for their stories they think you are a sucker anyway. Just go with the stats. There are 100s of women on DIA for example. Keep trawling and you will eventually find at least one, which is really all you want.

[QUOTE=Sellmerch1]Hello All,

To start I am not really a "Monger" who is here looking for ways to get sex from the girls. I am actually looking to find good lady for a marriage or long term relationship. I have always loved Asian women and especially the Filipina women. I have read much and researched about finding a good lady and also many of the scams these girls try on unsuspecting men. I found this site by error doing a search for scams but find much of this information very helpful in trying to weed out the bad ones.

What I am looking for is any suggestions or information from you pro's as to what I need to be looking for when contacting a girl. [/QUOTE]

If you're really looking for someone with whom to establish a long-term relationship, I would forget about getting it done on line. For one thing, it's too difficult to separate the hustlers from sincere women. For another, what you learn about her on line is limited to what she wants to share with you, which might not encompass what you really need or want to know.

The only reliable way to meet women for something other than sex is, in my opinion, to come here for a fairly extended period and see for yourself. Once you're here, you have several options. You can meet expats who have lived here for a while and who are in long-term relationships and ask them to ask their partners to introduce you to "serious" friends. You can take matters into your own hands by just engaging women who appeal to you in conversation and see where it goes from there. You can (as I have often encouraged others to do) hang around various universities and professional schools and start conversations with appealing women. I know some guys who meet women at church and who go there specifically for that purpose, and others who join various religiously oriented groups. If you're into sports like golfing, diving, or tennis, you will run into women who might interest you on the golf course, the dive boat or the tennis court. My point is that there are multiple venues and multiple approaches to meeting women once you're here.

Even before coming here however, you should probably determine beforehand where you're going to go. This is a large country and the various regions are different.

GE

Thanks for the reply! In answer to your question..No I am not Indian and appologize if my writting appears that way. I am a full blooded caucasian white male 46 years old but do look younger (no gray and full head of hair) and somehwhat physically fit.

I am looking for a lady who is between the ages of 25 and 35 witht he emphasis towards the older side of that range. I fully understand the need for these girls to support their families and would not be opposed to that for the right girl as I am financially secure in my life. I have been chatting with a couple girls online that I found on DIA who seem to be very nice but there always seems to be something that makes you step back.

One in particular is very well educated, speaks english like a westerner and is very pretty and respectful. We have been chatting steady for the last month and a half and she has never asked for a thing. She has actually refused and offer from me when she was having a hard financial time. But, the issue with her is that she has child and was married to a Filipino who lives in the states who refuses to acknowledge her or child. I realize I should run from this situation but she is by far the best I have met yet. The other girl is from Jakarta and also seems very sweet and pretty, not quite as educated but still pretty sharp. She appears not to have children or ever been married and lives with parents who are poor as dirt so support would surely be part of the deal.

I guess what I am trying to do is find a few good ladies online who are appealing, who fit my requirements and who are not gold diggers or at least don't appear to be gold diggers. Then plan trip to meet up in person and try to filter through most in person. I am in no rush and want to make best decision but these girls are pros of deception and it is hard to tell fact from fiction.


[QUOTE=GregLondon]Hi I'm sure I and other guys with extensive phils experience are delighted to try to help but i think we need a little bit more background as to what you are looking fior and what type of guy you are etc.

Your message was using Indian English, are you or Indian background? If so do you live there or in the Us ? obviously Phil girls will be much keener to move to the US. Approx how old are you and what age lady are you looking for? Are you looking fior a sweet innocent virgin type or somebody more wild and experienced? Is educational background important for you? Do you mind if she has a big family (who are likely to see you as a source of income if you marry her?)

As a general rule if i were looking for a wife rather than fun, I would be more interested in Chinese girls, because if you are potentially offering marriage and western visa you can find a university educated girl who speaks pretty good Engliush who will accept a say 15 year age gap, The Chinese in general are hard working, entrepreneurial and have small families. If you have a well educated one, she can probably get a reasonable job when with you in the West, and if you have a job/social circle where such things are important then she is likely to be considered much more respectable amongst your friends. I would personally be very wary of getting a Thai wife, as i think the high class ones are not so interested in marrying a big age gap foreign guy and the lower class ones often either don't speak much English or are bar girls. Doubtless there will be guys here who have known of exceptions, but personally I think if you marry a thai bar girl you are asking for trouble.

If you are not so concerned about education/hard work etc and dont mind marryingt into a large family with many mouths to feed, the philly girls are a good option as they speak better English and there are millions available, they will tolerate higher age gaps than other Asian girls.

Personally I would go for a girl who is at least college/uni educated speaks excellent English doesnt have a baby etc[/QUOTE]

While I do agree fully with you on going there and doing my search in person it is not possible at this time. I only have the ability at this point to travel there short term (1-2 weeks) a couple times per year. I am financially secure but still have a career and work and would only travel on holiday or once in a while on business. I would like to try and find a few "Elite" ladies online and then once I have a short list make plans to travel to meet in person to weed out the bad apples.

I find most of the girls online to be regular pro's of deception or have way too many skeletons in the closet for my likings. I am prepared for a long search though as I am in no rush. Any help and guidance would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]If you're really looking for someone with whom to establish a long-term relationship, I would forget about getting it done on line. For one thing, it's too difficult to separate the hustlers from sincere women. For another, what you learn about her on line is limited to what she wants to share with you, which might not encompass what you really need or want to know.

The only reliable way to meet women for something other than sex is, in my opinion, to come here for a fairly extended period and see for yourself. Once you're here, you have several options. You can meet expats who have lived here for a while and who are in long-term relationships and ask them to ask their partners to introduce you to "serious" friends. You can take matters into your own hands by just engaging women who appeal to you in conversation and see where it goes from there. You can (as I have often encouraged others to do) hang around various universities and professional schools and start conversations with appealing women. I know some guys who meet women at church and who go there specifically for that purpose, and others who join various religiously oriented groups. If you're into sports like golfing, diving, or tennis, you will run into women who might interest you on the golf course, the dive boat or the tennis court. My point is that there are multiple venues and multiple approaches to meeting women once you're here.

Even before coming here however, you should probably determine beforehand where you're going to go. This is a large country and the various regions are different.

GE[/QUOTE]

To the guy looking for marriage...first of all, youre on the wrong board lol. Also, IMHO, DIA is the last place I would look. As proof here, alot of guys and girls are there looking for a quick hook up. There are dozens of smaller dating type sites run by filipinas and their respective spouse that are just trying to get their friends or family hooked up, are much smaller, and many of these the owners of the sites personally know the girls. I would try and find something like that. Start with google.

As far as the comments on dating online in general, I disagree with comments that you cant get to know them. If a girl has something to hide, she will do so in person as well. How would you know? The bottom line, whether you meet her online or in person, is only time will reveal her true personality. IMHO its no different online or in person. Sure, it may take a little more time online, but like I said if she has something to hide she will in person. Hell...its not like in person they are an open book. Thats true of ANY woman (or man). If youve been married you know there are things you continue to learn even years after you marry. I encourage meeting online, as it cuts your (and her) time and effort by months.

Just my humble opinion.

A 46 year old white male, reasonably financially secure and with nice attitude is a dream catch for most of the girls on DIA so you should be spoilt for choice unless you live in the middle of Alaska or something.

One question that is pretty crucial is whether or not you are looking to start a family with this girl or whether you have decided against kids.

Personally I would definitely go for a girl without kids already and in the context of an Asian girl would go for someone in her late 20s. Its pretty unusual for girls in Phils/Indo/thai to have not gotten married or had a kid before 30s so the 30-35 plus market will mostly have baggage. Its different for the highly educated Chinese girl who has done a couple of degrees etc. With hundreds of thousands to choose from I don't think there is a need to compromise. I've seen many Western guys come to Asia to take wives who end up with seriously unimpressive girls because they are still thinking in terms of the quality of girl they can realistically get in the west. The reality is that if you are taking the effort and expense and uncertainty of fishing over here you should be looking for a far more attractive catch.

One issue that you will face is the reluctance of girls to enter intro several month long getting to know you sessions online. One difficulty is that there are loads of guys in DIA who are really just online to kill time and have fantasy girlfriends/chatmates with no real intention of very coming to the Phils or asia. The more attractive girls get hundreds of messages so must try somehow to sort the guys who are serious from the guys just wanting to chat for months. The other issue is that frankly with a large majority of asian girls there is simply not that much to get to know. Ive seen guys ask about hobbies or what do you do at the weekend type questions. For a poor girl, she probably doesn't have the money or imagination to do much more than hang out with friends or go down to the mall, and many don't have a real job so the concept of weekend has little meaning.

Maybe the guy wqho suggested personal recommndations is sensible. For example I know about 4 or 5 asian girls Chinese/Thai/phils in that age group, either educated or at least bright, with good English who i consider trustworthy freinds, if you PM me with the type that you are looking for I'm happyt to put you in touch with any that meet your requirements.






[QUOTE=Sellmerch1]Thanks for the reply! In answer to your question..No I am not Indian and appologize if my writting appears that way. I am a full blooded caucasian white male 46 years old but do look younger (no gray and full head of hair) and somehwhat physically fit.

I am looking for a lady who is between the ages of 25 and 35 witht he emphasis towards the older side of that range. I fully understand the need for these girls to support their families and would not be opposed to that for the right girl as I am financially secure in my life. I have been chatting with a couple girls online that I found on DIA who seem to be very nice but there always seems to be something that makes you step back.

One in particular is very well educated, speaks english like a westerner and is very pretty and respectful. We have been chatting steady for the last month and a half and she has never asked for a thing. She has actually refused and offer from me when she was having a hard financial time. But, the issue with her is that she has child and was married to a Filipino who lives in the states who refuses to acknowledge her or child. I realize I should run from this situation but she is by far the best I have met yet. The other girl is from Jakarta and also seems very sweet and pretty, not quite as educated but still pretty sharp. She appears not to have children or ever been married and lives with parents who are poor as dirt so support would surely be part of the deal.

I guess what I am trying to do is find a few good ladies online who are appealing, who fit my requirements and who are not gold diggers or at least don't appear to be gold diggers. Then plan trip to meet up in person and try to filter through most in person. I am in no rush and want to make best decision but these girls are pros of deception and it is hard to tell fact from fiction.[/QUOTE]

I fully undertsand what the purpose of this board is. My reason for asking questions here are because I feel many of the men here are very experienced in dealing with these girls. Sure the men here are not looking for marraige or even a long term relationship but I still feel some of the more experienced here understand these women and the culture incredibly well.

I am sure there are many here saying why in gods world would anyone want a long term relationship when you can have a different one each day! Lets just say that I am in a place in my life where I want to settle down. I have been divorced now for 6 years and have had many women some hired and some not. I have traveled to many Asian countries in my time during the military and now for my work. Out of all the places I have traveled I have grown a liking to the Filipina ladies. So now comes the challenge of trying to find a good lady. Thanks again for the suggestions I do appreciate.

[QUOTE=Blackangst]To the guy looking for marriage...first of all, youre on the wrong board lol. Also, IMHO, DIA is the last place I would look. As proof here, alot of guys and girls are there looking for a quick hook up. There are dozens of smaller dating type sites run by filipinas and their respective spouse that are just trying to get their friends or family hooked up, are much smaller, and many of these the owners of the sites personally know the girls. I would try and find something like that. Start with google.

As far as the comments on dating online in general, I disagree with comments that you cant get to know them. If a girl has something to hide, she will do so in person as well. How would you know? The bottom line, whether you meet her online or in person, is only time will reveal her true personality. IMHO its no different online or in person. Sure, it may take a little more time online, but like I said if she has something to hide she will in person. Hell...its not like in person they are an open book. Thats true of ANY woman (or man). If youve been married you know there are things you continue to learn even years after you marry. I encourage meeting online, as it cuts your (and her) time and effort by months.

Just my humble opinion.[/QUOTE]

I know there are a lot of older gentlemen here so I ask this to you more experienced hands. I plan on retiring in the P.I. like many of you all have already done but to those of you who are married to filipinas like I am, I just wonder how you keep your cheating on your spouse private? I mean, not just how you keep it private but morally what do you feel? I see other women too so I am in no way criticizing anyone. For me, I'm still young but I feel that I'm a man and it is just natural for us as men to mess with different pussy. I 100% know for a fact that I would NEVER EVER leave my wife and that the other girls I mess around with are only just booty calls, that's it. Nothing more. I also feel that if men don't continue to keep it diverse, their junk will possibly stop working.

But with all the diseases out there I have been wondering that maybe I should just get handjobs from the girls in P.I. after I retire there to be safe. There are skin-to-skin diseases but I could have the girls wear gloves and then I'd be totally safe. No chance of bringing anything to wife that way at all. I know I am rambling here but I'm just curious to what you older guys feel about this since a lot of you all have been there done that. Also, I want to put out that I am a strong advocate of marriage so I don't wish to talk about marriage being a waste of time. It isn't. If ones desires a solid family with kids then marriage is the only way. Period.