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Following some comments on this site, I booked in at Livingstones for a couple of nights. Made the mistake of going to their girlie bar at the back, and taking one of their girls. BF was 1000, but then her drink was also 1000. Fortunately she performed really well, but it was probably double what it should have been. Certainly should have gone outside. The cobwebs in the shower were a bit off putting as well. Would not repeat a stay there.

[QUOTE=Jlol4321;1318077]Following some comments on this site, I booked in at Livingstones for a couple of nights. Made the mistake of going to their girlie bar at the back, and taking one of their girls. BF was 1000, but then her drink was also 1000. Fortunately she performed really well, but it was probably double what it should have been. Certainly should have gone outside. The cobwebs in the shower were a bit off putting as well. Would not repeat a stay there.[/QUOTE]Jlol4321,

1 drink for THB 1, 000. 00?


Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]

Jlol4321, you would have more legitimacy and be less likely viewed as a cheapskate if you could manage the $19. 95 ISG membership fee.

[QUOTE=Jlol4321;1318077]Following some comments on this site, I booked in at Livingstones for a couple of nights. Made the mistake of going to their girlie bar at the back, and taking one of their girls. BF was 1000, but then her drink was also 1000. Fortunately she performed really well, but it was probably double what it should have been. Certainly should have gone outside. The cobwebs in the shower were a bit off putting as well. Would not repeat a stay there.[/QUOTE]Been at LL and never paid a single LD 1000. It is a bit more expensive than your drink, it is more watered than anything else, but definitely not 1000b. As you paid BF of 1000b, it means you took the girl after a late hour (11pm if I am not mistaken). Are you sure you did not spend the evening time till lower BF is enforced by. Offering a few LD to the girl and summing up to 1000b?

[QUOTE=Erich711; 1312912]Hey Folks,

Any word whether the Banyan has in-room massage and any recommendations? Saw Annie's and Tulip write ups.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]What are you asking? If the hotel provides such a service?

If you are asking if you can have a girl from outside come in, I personally have never had a problem with it.

Even if the hotel is not "GF" if the girl has I'd and works for an massage establishment, I have never had them turned away.

Just tell them you hurt your back and you need some therapy.

[QUOTE=Jlol4321;1318077]Following some comments on this site, I booked in at Livingstones for a couple of nights. Made the mistake of going to their girlie bar at the back, and taking one of their girls. BF was 1000, but then her drink was also 1000. Fortunately she performed really well, but it was probably double what it should have been. Certainly should have gone outside. The cobwebs in the shower were a bit off putting as well. Would not repeat a stay there.[/QUOTE]Wait, you go to a bar, Barfine a girl for 1, 000, then buy her a drink and get charged 1, 000 for that drink? And you don't say anything? (and you only bought a drink for the girl, not yourself?)

Any adult would have asked for the menu or would ask questions. What good does it do to shut up and pay the 1, 000 thb drink in the bar and then go on to a forum and complain about getting ripped off? Especially in a place where everyone knows here the owner is a honest person?

I think you misunderstood the prices. You probably paid more than 1, 000 for the BF and a lot less for the Drinks.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1318512]Been at LL and never paid a single LD 1000. It is a bit more expensive than your drink, it is more watered than anything else, but definitely not 1000b. As you paid BF of 1000b, it means you took the girl after a late hour (11pm if I am not mistaken). Are you sure you did not spend the evening time till lower BF is enforced by. Offering a few LD to the girl and summing up to 1000b?[/QUOTE]Yes, it was about 11 or later, but it was one LD. I queried and protested, but they wouldn't budge. I'm glad others don't have that experience, maybe they took advantage of a newbie.

Guys,

Slowly!

There are two issues Jlol4321 is mentioning: The THB 1,000.00 drink and the cobwebs in the shower.

I think the THB 1,000.00 drink is a misunderstanding, there were some more drinks, and Jlol4321 thought that Livingstone's is quite expensive. That's a "relative" impression everybody can have. If I compare the beer prices here and in Soi Cowboy we are definitely much cheaper.

Lady drinks are THB 150,00 ++ = THB 177,00, and THB 60,00 of that goes to the girl, for the time she sits with you and talks or plays pool. Those girls are working and need to make money. Many customer don't understand that concept, come in, sit and talk to a girl and not even buy a drink. And then they expect the girl to be happy. I can assure those customers: No, the girls are not happy then, and very fast you get a reputation as "Cheap Charly". The girls will then move away once you come into the bar.

The cobwebs in the shower are a bigger problem for me, and I apologize to Jlol4321 for that. This should never happen.

The reason for that is most likely quite simple: We had the lowest ever room occupancy during the time this customer was here, and some rooms were not used for days / weeks. If then a customer checks in without that room being inspected before something like this happens. For me a wake-up call that we have to implement a system to avoid that problem. And. On our checklist "check on cobwebs in the shower" was missing. Until today. Today this was added to our room check form!

What I don't understand - [b]I AM HERE AT LIVINGSTONE'S ALL THE TIME. [/b] Why do I have to read about this problem in the Internet, why can I not get the information in the moment when the problem occurs, that I can fix it and make it up to the customer? Clean things up, apologize and buy the customer a dinner or give him a free upgrade to a higher room category? Instead - the outcome negative for all participants: An unhappy customer, not willing to return, a nasty report in the internet. Please, guys, if there are any problems, [b]TALK TO ME WHEN YOU ARE HERE, AND WHEN THE PROBLEMS ARE POPPING UP. [/b] There will always be some problems, nothing is perfect here!

Jlol4321, sorry again, come at least over here when you are in Bangkok next time, that I can buy you a beer and apologize in person.


Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]

[QUOTE=Giotto; 1318652]Guys,

Slowly!

There are two issues Jlol4321 is mentioning: The THB 1, 000. 00 drink and the cobwebs in the shower.

I think the THB 1, 000. 00 drink is a misunderstanding, there were some more drinks, and Jlol4321 thought that Livingstone's is quite expensive. That's a "relative" impression everybody can have. If I compare the beer prices here and in Soi Cowboy we are definitely much cheaper. .

Jlol4321, sorry again, come at least over here when you are in Bangkok next time, that I can buy you a beer and apologize in person.

Giotto.

[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Dr, G. No need to apologise. Well maybe a little for the cobwebs (though it may be that he shed a lot and mistook his pubic hair for cobwebs). However, this person is jerk of the first order. He is a cheap charlie psycho and is not worth it. No matter where he stays he will have issues. You are a good man, charlie brown.

[QUOTE=Giotto;1318652][b]Those girls are working and need to make money[/b]. Many customer don't understand that concept, [b]come in, sit and talk to a girl and not even buy a drink[/b]. And then they expect the girl to be happy. I can assure those customers: No, the girls are not happy then, and very fast you get a reputation as "Cheap Charly". [b]The girls will then move away once you come into the bar.[/b][/QUOTE]Now I understand why all the girls move away when I come in. You BESTARD should have told me that before instead of letting me find out on the internet

[QUOTE=Giotto; 689895]L'Opera is one of the best Italian restaurants in Bangkok. It has authentic Italian cuisine, but not 'cucina' style but more the established upper class business style. Dress well if you go there.

It is located in Soi 39, half way through when you come from Sukhumvit, in a corner building. The road turns left there.

From Soi 33 (Livingstone's) you walk up the road and turn right at the end. After 300 m. You find the restaurant on the right hand side.

You usually need to call and reserve a table before you go there, otherwise you will have to wait for at least one hour. If somebody needs the phone number. PM.

The Management.

Livingstone's Lodge Co, Ltd.

[URL]www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]I always knew Austrians had no Taste! Mr Kurt Wagner, go buy yourself a CLUE

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1318711]I always knew Austrians had no Taste! Mr Kurt Wagner, go buy yourself a CLUE[/QUOTE]Froggy,

That report is dated 01.04.2008, written by the Management. I would not recommend l'Opera.


Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1318707]Now I understand why all the girls move away when I come in. You BESTARD should have told me that before instead of letting me find out on the internet[/QUOTE]Froggy,

Nahh, the reason that they move away when you come in is your preference for Livingstone's and Auntie Guido's [b]sausage[s][/b]!!! They all know that you play in the male league.


Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]

Guys,

It is time for a change, and I made the change today. Enough is enough!

Background of this report is an E-Mail conversation with a fellow monger who referred to our THB 1, 500. 00 ++ per room discount rate and asked, whether his friend (not ISG member) could book a room to this rate, too. His friend is not ISG member. So usually he cannot. Of course not. This is the ISG.

I compromised, I understood his dilemma. So I agreed to give the same room rate to his friend.

More PMs were coming in. Suddenly Agoda and TripAdvisor was mentioned. A free airport pick-up and drop!

OK, guys, we offer airport pick-up and -drop, but it is NOT FREE. We always recommend to take a taxi, because this is much cheaper as if we arrange a transport via limousine and driver.

I decided to answer very clearly - in a way a real polite hotelier would never answer. Nevertheless, I did, I am an asshole, and I had enough. Here the text of the mail I sent to the customer:

[b][i]OK,

Let's put the cards on the table.

I am sick and tired of cheap charlies taking advantage of discounts, and then always try to get more and more.

That's exactly what you did. Your friend first, then the airport pick up.

The ISG discount is of course ONLY for ISG members, and that is very clear. It is connected to writing a report, and your friend and partner is not an ISG member. And. You need to be able to receive PMs, you are, your friend is not. He is very clearly NOT entitled to get the discount. You know all that.

So- WHY DID YOU ASK FOR It?

We are running a business here. We need people here who spend money.

We are not in business to support cheap charlies! THere are so many cheap hotels in Bangkok. Just book one of those! In my POV the discount concept is completely wrong and brings the wrong people in here.

I will leave for Singapore tomorrow. So we will not meet. Good. I am so entirely fucked up with this discussion, I really need a break.

If you want to cancel - Ok.

Best Regards,

Giotto[/b][/i]

Guys, here is what we offer:

[b]Livingstone's Lodge: An Oasis in the Heart of Bangkok

- Space and ambiance around the pool in a resort style boutique hotel.

- Western Management. We get things done.

- Central location. 400 m to the Skytrain.

- Broadband WiFi internet access everywhere on the premises, additionally cable internet connection in the rooms. FREE.

- All-Day breakfast[/b]

For Bangkok rookies - I am usually staying here at Livingstone's, give advice and introductions into the Bangkok night life, and sometimes we organize Giotto's Night Tour. Some ISG members will most likely remember this tours.

The THB 1, 500. 00 ++ room rate discount is running out in the next months. There will be NO MORE ISG DISCOUNT after this.

[b]Discounts will be given to RETURNING CUSTOMERS who E-Mail directly to me, and we then make a deal. All other discounts are then history. [/b]


Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]

[QUOTE=Giotto; 1319192]Guys,

It is time for a change, and I made the change today. Enough is enough!

[b]Discounts will be given to RETURNING CUSTOMERS who E-Mail directly to me, and we then make a deal. All other discounts are then history. [/b]

Giotto.

[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't think loosing that customer LL will loose a lot of revenues. Probably saves a lot of headaches.

Enjoy SIN and before you leave it, don't forget to turn the lights on, much needed soon.