I was thinking of creating a questionnaire which would form the basis for a club selection guide.
You would answer a couple of questions, articulate your requirements and it would point you at a club or clubs which met your criteria.
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I was thinking of creating a questionnaire which would form the basis for a club selection guide.
You would answer a couple of questions, articulate your requirements and it would point you at a club or clubs which met your criteria.
I saw an African American guy at Living Room who had an uncanny resemblance to Barack Obama. He looked kind of nervous, as if he did not want someone to spot him in a brothel.
[quote=Londonbasketbase]I have had ijsberen tell me that both white and non whites are turned away but agreed that there is an undercurrent of non whites not usually allowed in unless well known. I have not seen large groups of young Dutch that are turned away but I have seen single Asians and groups of Asians turned away at the gate while I have stood there waiting for my girl to go to the room with her. Africans I have not seen turned away but their visitor numbers are so much smaller than Europeans and Asians. However, I do know one friend who is non caucasian has been refused entry when he was coming to meet me there and had been refused a couple of days earlier when he came on his own. In saying that I have seen one West Coast USA African American in GT but only the one. he has been to GT a few times before introducing others to GT. I made acquantainces with him (hi, if you are reading this).[/quote]
Hey LBC,
Are you referring to Southern Asians from the sub-continent or to East Asians?
The impression I have is that they focus on Northern Africans, Middle Easterners (Arabs) and Turks. I could be wrong.
To avoid the chance of being turned away at this club get there early. Also, have a back up plan.
Or better yet, don't go. I think GT is a good club but large clubs just aren't my scene. It will be a while before I return to it and guess what? I'm not missing anything.
[QUOTE=Dick Rambone]BL5,
I am latino and don't look anglo at all. I had no problems getting into Blue Note, Cocoon, PT Dorsten. [b]I do not know about the other clubs as Goldentime. I noticed some girls did not want to interact due to that they did not speak english or did not understand. On those I moved on as there were other fish in the pond.[/b]
Best,
Dick[/QUOTE]
Yes, you can get by with sign language and yes, English is spoken a lot, blah-blah-blah.
But it is quite a different experience when you can actually communicate with her. It puts her more at ease; it puts you more at ease.
Some women don't want to deal with it and will make themselves scarce not to have to do so.
Thanks Chico and Dick for the advise..but unfortunately...it looks like I'm no where close to getting a visa..:(....on the day i posted here.. there was a front page article on a daily (DNA) regarding Indians and Indians from even britain finding it very hard to get a schenzen visa..
Everyone is a potential immigrant for them.... ;)
Chico..how did you manage to get the Visa
Well..I will be hoping to make UK my base on HSMP visa :) that should make it easier to go around EU.
Till that time..my travel agent has suggested to go to Macau..wow...after going thorugh the embassy site......that is the only country worth mongering though managed by China allowing indians visa free travel for 30 days..yeah not even visa on arrival is required..i can just hop in with my bag and get out on macau in less than 5 hours...no need to circle around embassies....
Thailand does it but have to get a visa on arrival..which is ok too..just one hour wait on the desk..
Did all forum hopping and it does seem a good place to check out...not a casino fan but still wanting to see the biggest casino and third largest office building in the world plus lots of WGs and sauna to choose from ( this should keep me from the disappointment to not making FKK this time :( )
Well it seems..its now BKK>>>Macau>>>Manilla for me :)
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]I saw an African American guy at Living Room who had an uncanny resemblance to Barack Obama. He looked kind of nervous, as if he did not want someone to spot him in a brothel.[/QUOTE]
That seals the deal for me, I've voting for Obama.
I'm one of those guys who thinks the only thing Eliott Spitzer is guilty of is over paying.
[QUOTE=Vito Corleone]I have seen it done twice & both times were outside the gate. the 1st time A big muscled security guard kind of shook his head & told them it was full. Then the security guard let both Henio & I in about ten seconds later.
The 2nd time I was returning from a quick shower & noticed some young gents turned away outside.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm, I think I had better turn up for my next visit with a big cheesy grin looking imploringly at the security camera with a big box of belgian finest chocolates and a huge bouquet of seasonal flowers for the receptionist so ensure I am let in future.
I hope that they remember me.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
[QUOTE=Jackyo]I was thinking of creating a questionnaire which would form the basis for a club selection guide.
You would answer a couple of questions, articulate your requirements and it would point you at a club or clubs which met your criteria.[/QUOTE]
You could, but in some respects part of the fun of going from a newbee to an oldbee is trying different clubs and seeing what you like (and dislike). But if you insist, I'll take a stab at some questions. I would create a 5 point scale and survey the experienced mongers anmd come up with averages. Of the top of my head:
Club:
1. Size
2. Indoor facilities
3. Outdoor facilities
4. Food
5. Drinks
6. Room availability
7. Cleanliness
8. Smokiness
9. Customer/racial exclusion policy
10. Parking convenience
11. Public transportation convenience
12. Clientel
13. Kino action
14. Couch action
15. Management
Girls:
1. Average age
2. Average appearance
3. Diversity (Africans, Asians, Latinas, etc. in addition to EE and German girls)
4. Service
5. Sharkiness
6. Approach policy
7. Number of girls at 4PM weekdays
8. Number of girls at 9PM weekdays
9. Number of girls at 4PM weekends
10. Number of girls at 9PM weekends
I'm sure others can improve on this.
[QUOTE=Jackyo] Are you referring to Southern Asians from the sub-continent or to East Asians? [/QUOTE]
Jackyo,
Please I am only answering the question because you asked. I did not want to get flamed by the PC brigade here.
I meant Asians from the West and to an extent South Asia. East Asians I have seen a plenty in the clubs.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]The impression I have is that they focus on Northern Africans, Middle Easterners (Arabs) and Turks. I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]
In answer I tend to agree.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]To avoid the chance of being turned away at this club get there early. Also, have a back up plan. [/QUOTE]
Yes, this is the tactic that I suggested. If you turn up at opening time and th door opens to let in all the guys waiting as well then they cannot say its full and the door is open and you are lined up too. Its not the done thing to single you out and say you are not welcome in front of all the other customers.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]Or better yet, don't go. I think GT is a good club but large clubs just aren't my scene. It will be a while before I return to it and guess what? I'm not missing anything. [/QUOTE]
Another good suggestion Jackyo. There is a wealth of clubs across the Nederlands, Belgium, Deutschland, Switzerland and Austria for us to attend. This club is not the only one, but in saying that this club has a hold of my heart with a suite of my favourite A list girls working here.
I am hoping to see them soon for some marvellous catch up sessions.
I am already in training mode - beefing up my vitamin intake with fruit and vegetables and abstaining from performing the Barclays before bed and also when I wake up. Hey - it helps me sleep and wake!!!
Kind Regards
Londonbasketcase
[QUOTE=Radler]That seals the deal for me, I've voting for Obama.
I'm one of those guys who thinks the only thing Eliott Spitzer is guilty of is over paying.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but I've seen alot more guys that look like McCain...
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Thanks Chico and Dick for the advise..but unfortunately...it looks like I'm no where close to getting a visa..:(....on the day i posted here.. there was a front page article on a daily (DNA) regarding Indians and Indians from even britain finding it very hard to get a schenzen visa..
Everyone is a potential immigrant for them.... ;)
Chico..how did you manage to get the Visa
Well..I will be hoping to make UK my base on HSMP visa :) that should make it easier to go around EU.
Till that time..my travel agent has suggested to go to Macau..wow...after going thorugh the embassy site......that is the only country worth mongering though managed by China allowing indians visa free travel for 30 days..yeah not even visa on arrival is required..i can just hop in with my bag and get out on macau in less than 5 hours...no need to circle around embassies....
Thailand does it but have to get a visa on arrival..which is ok too..just one hour wait on the desk..
Did all forum hopping and it does seem a good place to check out...not a casino fan but still wanting to see the biggest casino and third largest office building in the world plus lots of WGs and sauna to choose from ( this should keep me from the disappointment to not making FKK this time :( )
Well it seems..its now BKK>>>Macau>>>Manilla for me :)[/QUOTE]
You could do worse. The Macau sauna clubs are amazing. Go to "18". You will never see a lineup of more than a hundred absolutely gorgeous Asian women like that anywhere in the world. The facilities are unbelievable, with jacuzzis, saunas, chair showers, different types of massages, full-service restaurant, a cinema and even bunks to sleep in if you want to stay the night.
And Bangkok isn't too shabby either.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]I don't know how it got to this.[/QUOTE]
My friend,
Wow- I remember your 1000th post- wasn't too long ago...
On behalf of all of the FKK afficianados here on the board- Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.
Your knowledge and understanding of all things related to the German sex scene is unique and invaluable, and your informative and sometimes tongue in cheek posts have contributed immensely to the development of this board into a first source resource for English-speaking mongers.
You've certainly helped me and I'm sure countless others to discover the joys of this scene. May our pleasure be your pleasure.
Your obssessive compulsive behavior is a godsend. To paraphrase someone equally as famous "If you didn't exist we would have had to gone out and created someone just like you."
looking forward to your 3000th....
[QUOTE=Iseeu]Yeah, but I've seen alot more guys that look like McCain...[/QUOTE]
Q. Do you know what the women at Berndts call John McCain?
A. The young, buff guy.
[QUOTE=Iseeu]You could do worse. The Macau sauna clubs are amazing. Go to "18". You will never see a lineup of more than a hundred absolutely gorgeous Asian women like that anywhere in the world. The facilities are unbelievable, with jacuzzis, saunas, chair showers, different types of massages, full-service restaurant, a cinema and even bunks to sleep in if you want to stay the night.
And Bangkok isn't too shabby either.[/QUOTE] I know this is a bit off-topic, but as someone who has visited 18 sauna in Macau couple of times, I second what Iseeu says. IMO it kicks ass of any FKK I've been too. Increadible lineup, the folks who run these places actually understand the meaning of customer service and this comes from a die hard FKK fan. I would say all things considered, 18 sauna in Macau is the closest thing I have come to a perfect brothel, and I've been to quite a few of them brothels around the world. Rio sauna is another high end establishment. Macau has over 30 sauna clubs of various qualities (18 and Rio consistently rank at the top end). I would say the only drawback is the lack of verbal communication with the girl before you commit to a session, but then again, I've never had a bad session there either. For those who like to know more, check out the ROD in Macau thread.
[QUOTE=Radler]Q. Do you know what the women at Berndts call John McCain?
A. The young, buff guy.[/QUOTE]
Heh, Heh, Heh.
Q: And do you know what the Palace sharks call John McCain?
A: Fresh meat