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Sorry, meant COB and not CIB. ;-)
[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]As far as I am aware and from my experiences, coming on a woman's body is €50 extra in Hessen and €25 extra in NRW. This includes coming on her arse, her tits, on her leg, on her face or just about anywhere on her.[/QUOTE]
Come on face should be 50 EUR extra, coming on her body I never paid extra and never will. There's no strict or common rule for that, but if a girl wants 50 EUR extra for COB she will not see my juices.
HB
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]
Come on face should be 50 EUR extra, coming on her body I never paid extra and never will. There's no strict or common rule for that, but if a girl wants 50 EUR extra for COB she will not see my juices.
HB[/QUOTE]
Are you saying in a 30 minute session at Palace if you unload on a girl's tits you only give her 50E total for the session? And, have you done that often?
[QUOTE=John Smith 2112]
We got to the room, closed the door, and she started talking about money, how it would be 100 euros for the hour and 50 extra for the massage. Since this was my first shot of the evening, I tried to explain I only wanted 30 minutes for 50 euros (I had assumed she would just do a little massage before the actual fucking). But anything besides BBBJ and fucking, including massage, costs extra. She started throwing around numbers like 200 and 250 euros and my head started spinning, what had I gotten myself into! By this time I was pretty turned off by the upsell, grabbed my towel and headed for the door. As I grabbed the doorknob, she started going back down to 150 euros and 100 euros, again I tried to tell her, 30 minutes for 50 euros. She said, she's working here, this isn't some kind of joke. I told her maybe I'd talk to her later and headed out the door.[/QUOTE]
I am confused with this report and the other recent one from Sky Rider...
I thought the whole raison d'ętre of FKK was clear pricing and virtually no negotiation. Okay, some of this is about "extras", but again I thought they were well-defined. But some of it seems to be about simply paying more for a certain girl. Or is it all about extras?
And is the little warm up session at the bar or in the cinema, where a girl starts giving a BJ, part of the 30 minutes? Or can a lucky guy get that as a front-end freebie?
Finally, is there a place to nap at the Palace?
I am arriving on the usual overnight trans-Atlantic flight and would like to avail myself of the pleasures of the Palace during a day-long lay-over. So I would see showing up at 10 am for a morning session, then trying to pace myself a bit over the next few hours. Being able to nap between sessions would be a real bonus - is that possible?
[QUOTE=Chicafan]Are you saying in a 30 minute session at Palace if you unload on a girl's tits you only give her 50E total for the session? And, have you done that often?[/QUOTE]Hessen Bub is quite right. It should be part of the EUR 50, and I am another one who never pays extra either, anywhere. Put another way, what are they doing to get EUR 50? Using a couple of tissues in the room and a wipe down in the shower room afterwards? No way EUR 50 for that.
Nevertheless, as you no doubt do too, Chicafan, it is always best to check if you do not know the girl, certainly at Palace. And if the checking leads to price demands, session nyet.
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]I am confused with this report and the other recent one from Sky Rider...
I thought the whole raison d'ętre of FKK was clear pricing and virtually no negotiation. Okay, some of this is about "extras", but again I thought they were well-defined. But some of it seems to be about simply paying more for a certain girl. Or is it all about extras?
And is the little warm up session at the bar or in the cinema, where a girl starts giving a BJ, part of the 30 minutes? Or can a lucky guy get that as a front-end freebie?
Finally, is there a place to nap at the Palace?
I am arriving on the usual overnight trans-Atlantic flight and would like to avail myself of the pleasures of the Palace during a day-long lay-over. So I would see showing up at 10 am for a morning session, then trying to pace myself a bit over the next few hours. Being able to nap between sessions would be a real bonus - is that possible?[/QUOTE]Without wishing to denigrate any of the good providers at Palace, the club is a bit different from others in that it serves a large number of tourists, whom some of the girls consider fair game for upselling, price hikes etc. In all other clubs you are right, there is seldom any great need for negotiation because the pricing is standard.
As a first-timer, it is simply best to be on your guard and confirm pricing beforehand. You will usually be OK then. If she plays tricky or is obviously above market, simply don't take her to the room. Be polite, you've changed your mind, got to go for a sauna, stuff like that. Disputes are best avoided, they are rarely solved to the satisfaction of the punter, and everyone gets pissed off.
When does it start? The jury is ultimately still out. As a general rule you are committed when she has your dick in her mouth. If she times you from that moment in the Kino or on the couches, I would say you will have to accept that, pragmatically. So have your watch with you, and make a quick mental note. But in fairness, most girls are not unreasonable on timing.
Napping is pretty difficult at Palace. I've laid down on the couches right at the back sometimes, behind the swimming pool, but I wouldn't say I managed to sleep. Not even sure if the layout is still the same there now. Anyone got any ideas?
Hi all.
Re COB discussion, mmm, thanks, I think perhaps I was charged for COB once and assumed it was always an extra. I may have given several girls a pleasantly surprising more than they expected at the end of a session then, and I'm not refering to the COB ! ;-) Tosc's logical analysis of what E50 covers makes sense, not a lot really, they are going to shower anyway. Ok, for COF, yes, it messes with the makeup, it risks hitting the eyes, it's maybe not found pleasant by most girls, so I think it's fair enough to pay for it as an extra.
Now then, has anyone at the end of performing DATY to an apparently body shuddering, back arching, face flushing completion, been cheeky enough to claim a E50 discount on the session in lieu of COMM (came on my mouth)? I dare you !
Gentleman T ...
There is a relatively new "reading area", I think thats what they call it. It's a soft bench seating area with soft lighting and reading lamps, relaxing music and an LCD screen showing more artistic video of the female form (as opposed to porn).
If you head right out of the main room towards the sauna area it's to your right again.
I went out there intending to just chill for a while, without being bothered for a session. I'd just had one of the most physically satisfying sessions of all time (positive wobbly legs after !) which had left me feeling wiped, then I'd eaten and well, I really needed to recharge. I closed my eyes and next thing I knew I woke up 40 minutes later ! So yes, it is possible to get a nap in.
Mind you it was a Sunday, late afternoon and not very busy, it may be that on a busier day/time that you find more of us mongers retire there to try and avoid pesterance by the circling sharks.
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder] Talked to a girl named Monica from Caracas, very latin looking and was interesting, but didn't really move my fun meter much. I am surprised how many of the girls speak Spanish and found that my limited Espanol is a real ice breaker/ asset in this arena.
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Hey Sky,
Monica? Straight brown hair? Late twenties, early thirties? Store-bought bolt-ons?
If this is the same girl, then you missed out. I've been going with her since her days at Oase and she has always been a great session.
Cheers,
Dedalus
I think you just have to make it clear to them that you want 30 minutes for 50 euros. Before you even get up to walk to the room with her. If she starts to upsell and won't take no for an answer, you can always leave like I did.
Palace doesn't have a lot of extra space for napping, maybe you could try it in the cinema if you don't mind people playing or possibly having sex around you. Should be safe since all your valuables are locked up.
BJ always seems to be included in the price.. I don't think it matters where it happens... BJ in the cinema and fucking in the room. I'd make this clear to the girl before she even starts though.
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]I am confused with this report and the other recent one from Sky Rider...
I thought the whole raison d'ętre of FKK was clear pricing and virtually no negotiation. Okay, some of this is about "extras", but again I thought they were well-defined. But some of it seems to be about simply paying more for a certain girl. Or is it all about extras?
And is the little warm up session at the bar or in the cinema, where a girl starts giving a BJ, part of the 30 minutes? Or can a lucky guy get that as a front-end freebie?
Finally, is there a place to nap at the Palace?
I am arriving on the usual overnight trans-Atlantic flight and would like to avail myself of the pleasures of the Palace during a day-long lay-over. So I would see showing up at 10 am for a morning session, then trying to pace myself a bit over the next few hours. Being able to nap between sessions would be a real bonus - is that possible?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chicafan]Are you saying in a 30 minute session at Palace if you unload on a girl's tits you only give her 50E total for the session? And, have you done that often?[/QUOTE]
That's exactly what I am saying, no matter if I am at World, Oase, Palace, Hof, GT, PHG, Sakura, Artemis - where ever. And no, I do not really do that very often, as I prefer CIM or just coming inside the girls. So I can't really tell you what the situation is about girls demanding 50 EUR extra. I just wouldn't pay 50 EUR extra for it.
HB
[QUOTE=Dick Travel]
There is a relatively new "reading area", I think thats what they call it. It's a soft bench seating area with soft lighting and reading lamps, relaxing music and an LCD screen showing more artistic video of the female form (as opposed to porn).
If you head right out of the main room towards the sauna area it's to your right again.
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This is a nice area to recharge your batteries. I accually fell asleep in the main area & a really old lady (manages the women?) woke me up & told me to move to the sauna area to relax. After 7 straight days of FKK, I needed a 30 minute power nap.
[QUOTE=Dreams]Due to some physiological reasosn, when I reach my third or fourth session, I usually cannot cum "in" but only "out" and therfore required CIB. During my last 2-3 sessions, as soon as I took my thing out and started working on CIB, the girl says: 50 Euros extra..A bit unpleasant, but ususally given the state in which I am then, I can only agree...
Any advice how to deal with this form the experts?[/QUOTE]
Cum on the towel.
Out of personal reasons I am intrigued by the in and outs of COB, especially those on a bargain.
[quote=Dick Travel] they are going to shower anyway[/quote]DT, I think you misread Toscana’s post. Common sense and personal experience dictate that a popular FKK-girl does not take a full shower after every single encounter. I think they should shower after a COB and therefore it is appropriate to charge extra. Though, €50 is ridiculous.
[quote]if you unload on a girl's tits you only give her 50E total for the session[/quote]Hessen Bub, you seem a tough businessman with your shoot first, never ask, dont pay policy. Have you ever had any arguments? And to be very explicit
- Do you you withdraw from mouth, doggy or ... to do those bargained COBs?
- Have you pulled this stunt on seasoned pros like, say, Vanessa Poland?
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]So I can't really tell you what the situation is about girls demanding 50 EUR extra. I just wouldn't pay 50 EUR extra for it.
HB[/QUOTE]
I believe what you are saying, I would just like to hear from more people and whether or not they get charged for it because I would expect to be- although of course I'd rather not pay it. I would like to hear some other experiences.
If I had my choice I would rather CIM rather than COB if I were going to have to pay for it either way but if it is considered no extra charge generally I could live with COB(tits).
[QUOTE=Everhard]Hessen Bub, you seem a tough businessman with your shoot first, never ask, dont pay policy. Have you ever had any arguments? And to be very explicit
- Do you you withdraw from mouth, doggy or ... to do those bargained COBs?
- Have you pulled this stunt on seasoned pros like, say, Vanessa Poland?[/QUOTE]
There's a misunderstanding, I do not practice shoot first, never ask, dont pay. And yes, I've had arguments, but before performing COB. I practise ask first, then either shoot and dont pay or dont shoot and dont pay. It does not really matter for me if a girl does COB or not.
As said, I'm not a COB fan. I do it rarely, I prefer CIM. And with Vanessa from Poland I have always done CIM, can't remember one single session without. ;-)
HB
I have been away for a couple of years (BKK Soapies :))
but returned last Monday night. Recognised a fair portion of the girls but none of my top favourites were there.
Line-up a bit weak. Some pretty girls but a lot have fake tits which doesn't impress me.
Michelle, the kooky skinny German live wire (not so young but still looks good). A real GFE and we fucked and sucked the whole session time. She kissed nicely and did everything real well. Didn't complain about anything at all. Definitely a 9 for service but a bit less for looks (not stunning). Very good English too!
Charla (spelling) from Turkey was O.K. but rather restrictive in what was allowed. Great body but service so-so.
A dark girl (name?) from Dominican Rep., who liked to make wolf calls, had a great arse but otherwise so-so. Wanted to use a vib on me or arse play. None of which interested me at all. Nor did I want massage. Extended DATY was the best I got out of her. Her legs were tensed to make fucking difficult.
I wanted to go with Bianca as have had good session in the past but she was in strange mood preferring to chain smoke and chat with her friends instead of work.
Lydia (big tits) was set to go with me but changed her mind after I suggested I would collect my own 54mm condoms first. She said that if I had a big dick, she didn't want me and wouldn't even inspect the size of the problem first before deciding.
So only Michelle comes highly recommended if you go for skinny girls. I will return soon perhaps, after researching the ISG highly rated girls, at a more busy time, or try out Oase instead.
For anyone who doesn't know where it is (very few I hope):
[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=The+Palace+FKK,+Frankfurt,+Germany&gl=au&ie=UTF8&ll=50.127985,8.625822&spn=0.010455,0.021157&z=16[/url]
Pin A is slightly off position at Fleming's Hotel next door to Palace. I stayed at the Ibis usually cheaper than Flemings.