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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]. But, in truth, I don't know that many long-time expats who still do P4P that much. One is considered a bit of a loser if still heavily involved in that scene after being here for a good while. It's just the natural evolution that happens. [/QUOTE]20 years in the Land of Smiles, and still going strong. This "loser" thing is the "green eyed monster" taking over. The "other" long term expats invariably get themselves entangled into a serious relationship, with a girl who will not allow them the time and space to P4P often. They therefore get jealous and kid themselves that anyone long term doing P4P is a loser, helps convince themselves they made the right choice.
I enjoy a thoroughly good mix of P4P and also the freebies from the net (Hi-5, Tagged etc.) that take a little more time to get going.
Anyone in Thailand and not enjoying P4P is, in my view, the loser. You can be in a serious relationship and have a little side fun anywhere in the world. But when in Thailand you should be having large doses of P4P and Freebies.
If you are not doing at least 100 new girls a year. You really are not living.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Wendella...You've never seen my photos? Really? Where the fuck have you been? I've posted hundreds.[/QUOTE]I'm not a frequent visitor in the Photo Galleries, cuz of those reasons mentioned. Rarely see a gorgeous face in there and I'm not one for shots of pussies or assholes or blurred out faces on naked unattractive bodies. Just doesn't grab me. I just tried a search to pull up your posts in that forum but up come all these other posts from you and others that usually dont' include photos. Too much work. I did come across a few pics of yours of the same pale-skinned girl in white blouse and dark blue skirt, she looked pretty good i must admit. I dont' feel like it's quite enough to judge by, but that's ok. No feeling of need on my part to get to the bottom of this one.
I can understand you wanting to put some guy rubbing you the wrong way in his place. I actually didn't see that post where he did that but had entered the thread at a point past that.
You might have a point about how it's more interesting for guys to read about things that are possible for them than about situations that aren't. I guess in that case, no reason not to discuss those other kinds too since I'm sure there's some who are into hearing about those too. But I guess also if you diss the kind of stuff a lot of us (most of us) are into, you're gonna catch flak... automatically... like on this one.
Anyway, no big deal, all this.
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Is it safe in Thailand?
Unfortunately, I booked a trip to Thailand starting on Saturday. How's the situation right now? I just read in the newspaper that there are streetbattles and protests.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]But, in truth, I don't know that many long-time expats who still do P4P that much.[/QUOTE]
Probably because we can't afford it! Just kidding of course, but certainly my budget was many times greater when I just came here as a half-the-year tourist. Now that I work here each fuck is a rather big decision, even at 500 baht.
But even if I had the same money I had when I was coming from the US, I'd still spend it all on P4P. It is way too much trouble to chase 'regular' women, and I'm not even sure they would have me. I've had a couple of well educated middle class girlfriends, who made their own decent livings, but of course they were 30 or older (not to mention average looking) and thus had no other choice than a farang. I have to say I've seen little evidence that a 40-something year old just ok looking guy who works for a living could get the cute 20-25 year olds 'for free' - I mean speaking reasonably it doesn't make sense, does it fellows?
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Hummm... let's see ... How about "dirty old men," or "perverts," "sex fiends," "johns," "sex addicts," ... which term do you prefer? :D[/QUOTE]
Nah, best stick with monger;). The British term is punter, which certainly sounds better than monger, but can't see it catching on here. Wonder whether other countries (i.e France, Germany etc) have specific names for pussyhounds? Must have, I guess.
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Can't believe that I'm a loser! I'm not even close to 100 girls a year! Like I said earlier just waiting to die in Thailand.
Why didn't anyone tell me earlier? LBM
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The silence is deafening
[QUOTE=Jungle Bluebird]....these nana girls are roaches of Thai society. low end, bottom feeders....the nana roaches....[/QUOTE]
A couple of days ago, a newbie was slaughtered in this thread because he used childish Gangsta Rapper-type language that was disrespectful to the local WGs. One of ISG Thailand's most ignorant posters of recent times returns after a hiatus, immediately takes up where he left off with his poisonous nonsense toward the same local WGs, and not a sqwawk from the usual suspects. Why? What's the difference?
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[QUOTE=Jungle Bluebird]OTH... missed ur provocative posts :-)
well, u can't blame tourists or those who live here but still have no idea to go for nana girls and even more ridiculous, rate them on a scale 1-10.
hallo... these nana girls are roaches of Thai society. low end, bottom feeders.
but i also recall coming to bangkok for the first time and not having any idea how and where to get laid. looking back now it seems almost absurd, but yes, i ended up in my fancy hotel room all alone.
after many years in thailand i learned to appreciate the odd encounter. not that the girls are smarter than the nana roaches, but it's just more fun. plus i fool myself believing that hey..girl did it for fun and not for money LOL
JB[/QUOTE]
JB ,
I kind of get what you are saying about your own circumstances but I think you and OTH miss the point that WE (most of us) dont live there.
I can afford (luckily) to do it privately about 4 or 5 times a year for 2 weeks each. Now in those times like all my mongering colleagues on the site, I have to make every second count. I cant wander around the malls and nightclubs on the offchance that I might get a shag. Like you residents!!
I have spent between £600 and £1200 on a flight and budgeted for about £3k for a 2 week holiday. I will shag anyone I fancy at any place, anywhere.
I have shagged stunners. Really. and dogs (no surprises). I have spent B500 ST up to B5000 long time and never regretted a single baht! It's just money.
I've prob also spent up to B7k bar bills too (In fact my mate put up a report about it on the site when we got ripped off (maybe) a few months ago in Gspot)! :-)
All I'm saying is that I come to this site to read about certain things that I love and and I'm happy to spend a ridiculous amount of money on. Dont care about much else when I'm there. Like most folk, I'm not interested in cultural stuff or who shagged the best supermodel or why we are all losers for not 'getting it' about Thailand cos we dont live there! It's about the guys telling their stories of first time stuff, bad and good experiences, ML on about his expertise in MPs etc, etc.
So not picking on OTH, just saying that most people (in my humble opinion) want to talk about mongering and not Thai culture and how good a handful of residents are at picking up 'girlfriends' (ha ha) etc. That's why we spend a ridiculous amount of money on it!! :-)
Digressing a wee bit while the wine is still flowing....But one of the things I have learned from ferangs and Thai girls over 15 years that I find hilarious is the concept of ANY ferang having a 'girlfriend'!! They are ALL prostitutes. ALL. I doubt anyone on this site (except the self righteous elite that nobody really believes) actually has a 'girlfriend'. I have had many girlfriends in my life and like nearly everyone here I haven't been sending them money or paying their rent. THAT is a prostitute. PERIOD!!
I find it hilarious when I hear any ferang or Thai girl saying they have a girlfriend or boyfriend!! They are a customer. CUSTOMER!! Whether they live in Thailand or not!!
Hmm maybe one more bottle of wine??
Johnthescot
p.s just booked the flights for Oct!!and Dec!! :-)
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[QUOTE=Penbelly]Buddy, I really wasn't referring to you exclusively but since you want to whine. You must have some serious insecurities to go off like that. How in the hell do you know what I have boned or not boned? Your'e an idiot for even making such a moronic statement. I would be willing to bet I HAVE ripped off better honeys than your OLD Thai hand (job) has. The difference is I can enjoy ALL girls. You probably can't get it up with a girl who is a hooker, right? I didn't pay for sex the first two years I was over here. I was 23, great-looking, and respectful to the girls. So where are you going with your bragging? Most of the pics I have seen posted on this board don't impress me very much to be honest so maybe you can steer me in the right direction to all of your conquests. I promise not to laugh.[/QUOTE]
only 32 questionable posts and still, you have a fuck of a lot to say.
Are you still in your 20s??? That would explain a lot. Being able to pull hot girls when you're 23 and "great-looking" is no accomplishment. Let's see how good you are when you're double that age, wanker.
Johnthescot
There are a lot of guys lately on here who go on about being young and handsome. I agree with you that some tend to go on about how studly they are, which could be true, but seems to a lot of bravado from supposed young guys who shouldn't need any.
For the record, I'm fat, 56 and average looking. But, I learned a long time ago that Thai girls like fun, a good sense of humour, status and security (not necessarily financial), whether they're farmgirls or HiSo 'dek noo'.
As for Easy07's "100 girls a year" - I used to do that and still could, if so inclined. But, now I'd rather sip a nice bottle of Beaujolais Nouveau than a gallon of Ernest and Julio Gallo 'eau de screw-top'. It's about quality over quantity.
If one is living in Idaho dreaming of his next 2-weeker in LOS, I can totally understand wanting to maximize the limited time with as many shags as possible through a whole range of girls. But, for some guys (not all, mind you) living here, there isn't the same drive because we've already done that, still can, if we want to, but choose not to.
The question of why guys who aren't really into P4P would hang around this site is a really valid one. It used to be that there were some very colourful and interesting guys who wrote on here: Samus Aran, Domino, The Traveler etc., none of whom I particularly liked, but who I still found interesting. I suppose I'm one of the last bastards standing and maybe should move on, then if not appreciated. I've stopped posting before, only to return after awhile. But, when one starts even getting PMs telling him he should fuck off and leave, maybe it really is time to go and leave the board to those only interested in the going rate for ST in the Nana parking lot and not interested in the alternatives.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]...For the record, I'm fat, 56 and average looking...[/QUOTE]
WHAT!!!!! The first time you told us that, I refused to believe it, and now you have totally destroyed my fantasy image of the great OTH.
(On second thought, I suppose you still are great) :D
You see gentlemen, there is hope for all us lesser mortals too!
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]WHAT!!!!! The first time you told us that, I refused to believe it, and now you have totally destroyed my fantasy image of the great OTH.
(On second thought, I suppose you still are great) :D
You see gentlemen, there is hope for all us lesser mortals too![/QUOTE]
Actually Daddy, you're the better man than I. You're living your dream and doing exactly what you choose to do. One can't get better than that.
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Eden is great!!
[QUOTE=Smackdown]Hi,
Who knows anything about Eden club in all my travels I'm yet to visit I've had mixed reports from people and I'm not even sure on what it is they offer? Massage? Soapies, oil massage?
Can someone help me out please
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
My friend and I took 2 non-anal girls out of there back to our hotel a cpl of years back and they were really pretty sweet and great performers. We sat around drinking beers and they sang songs to us for an hour or so then they went right to work. His was a tall, fare Isan with a rock hard belly and mine was an Isan shorty also with nice body, esp. nipples and ass. His rocked the house but was a head case and mine was really chatty and affectionate, washing me like a mother washing her kid then a nice massage, butt lick then pole smoke. Nice boink and had nice control of her kegal. We both enjoyed watching my pal bone his girl like pornstar. His had a VERY artistic tattoo of her lapdog on her back and seeing the sweat make her back all shiny with her comeback snatch was quite a nice visual. Mine pulled the bag off with perfect timing and finished me off with a nice, quick, sneaky surprise proctal right when I blew my wad in mouth and face. I really wish we had pros like that back here.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]only 32 questionable posts and still, you have a fuck of a lot to say.
Are you still in your 20s??? That would explain a lot. Being able to pull hot girls when you're 23 and "great-looking" is no accomplishment. Let's see how good you are when you're double that age, wanker.
Johnthescot
There are a lot of guys lately on here who go on about being young and handsome. I agree with you that some tend to go on about how studly they are, which could be true, but seems to a lot of bravado from supposed young guys who shouldn't need any.
For the record, I'm fat, 56 and average looking. But, I learned a long time ago that Thai girls like fun, a good sense of humour, status and security (not necessarily financial), whether they're farmgirls or HiSo 'dek noo'.
As for Easy07's "100 girls a year" - I used to do that and still could, if so inclined. But, now I'd rather sip a nice bottle of Beaujolais Nouveau than a gallon of Ernest and Julio Gallo 'eau de screw-top'. It's about quality over quantity.
If one is living in Idaho dreaming of his next 2-weeker in LOS, I can totally understand wanting to maximize the limited time with as many shags as possible through a whole range of girls. But, for some guys (not all, mind you) living here, there isn't the same drive because we've already done that, still can, if we want to, but choose not to.
The question of why guys who aren't really into P4P would hang around this site is a really valid one. It used to be that there were some very colourful and interesting guys who wrote on here: Samus Aran, Domino, The Traveler etc., none of whom I particularly liked, but who I still found interesting. I suppose I'm one of the last bastards standing and maybe should move on, then if not appreciated. I've stopped posting before, only to return after awhile. But, when one starts even getting PMs telling him he should fuck off and leave, maybe it really is time to go and leave the board to those only interested in the going rate for ST in the Nana parking lot and not interested in the alternatives.[/QUOTE]
hey OTH I'm all for your wisdom and stories, fuck I'm jealous as hell. Keep the stories and insights coming. Just be careful about rubbing us 'tourists' up the wrong way!! :-)
I dont for one single second think in even 25 ish visits that I have a clue about LOS, really. And I'm not a newbie. Hell I even got ripped off the last time. kind of found it interesting actually for some reason!! :-)
Most of us want to do Nana parking lot at some time. It's fun. Hey I AM the only good looking one on the site and I still want to do it sometimes :-)
just give us sad loser tourists a break and the wisdom of your experiences and we'll all be a happy mongering family !!
Johnthescot
p.s. and the numbers of some of your friends too :-)
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[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Digressing a wee bit while the wine is still flowing....But one of the things I have learned from ferangs and Thai girls over 15 years that I find hilarious is the concept of ANY ferang having a 'girlfriend'!! They are ALL prostitutes. ALL. I doubt anyone on this site (except the self righteous elite that nobody really believes) actually has a 'girlfriend'. I have had many girlfriends in my life and like nearly everyone here I haven't been sending them money or paying their rent. THAT is a prostitute. PERIOD!![/QUOTE]
I would not go to the extent of saying they are all prostitutes, but a lot of them are actively looking for a man to "Support them".
In my mind, a prostitute is a lady who has chosen to have sex for money as a job (or shall I say Carreer?), the Thai girls yo u refer to are not really prostitutes, most are regular working ladies (your garden variety sales lady) or even students that choose to have sex with a man who would "help" then get better clothes or a new Cellphone. These girls are not prostitutes, in my mind anyway LOL.
The problem is that as a tourist (no matter how many times you have been here) you will never get the real picture of what thai girls want or think. Hell, After 4 years here working and playing, I don't understand them either but I think we can't generalise that they are all prostitutes.
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what thai women think
Hell, I am here 20 years and I still do not know what they think...LOL
having said that, majority do not seem to think a lot at all. it's day by day, easy go lucky etc..
and... let's not forget, most are poor. it's about survival, paying rent, having food.
JB
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I would not go to the extent of saying they are all prostitutes, but a lot of them are actively looking for a man to "Support them".
In my mind, a prostitute is a lady who has chosen to have sex for money as a job (or shall I say Carreer?), the Thai girls yo u refer to are not really prostitutes, most are regular working ladies (your garden variety sales lady) or even students that choose to have sex with a man who would "help" then get better clothes or a new Cellphone. These girls are not prostitutes, in my mind anyway LOL.
The problem is that as a tourist (no matter how many times you have been here) you will never get the real picture of what thai girls want or think. Hell, After 4 years here working and playing, I don't understand them either but I think we can't generalise that they are all prostitutes.[/QUOTE]