Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2545117]The only time you will ever be quoted 8-12 k for LT is when a girl is making it clear she finds you disgusting and she doesn't want to go with you. She'll accept your lady drinks all night long but there is no chance in hell she will sleep with you.



Maybe I can learn something here. Where are you going to party in Pattaya starting at 6 am? Even the Thai bars / discos and shisha bars are slowing or shutting down at 6 am.[/QUOTE]Might be because I'm korean and they're quoting me the Korean / Japanese rates. =(.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2545350]Might be because I'm korean and they're quoting me the Korean / Japanese rates..[/QUOTE]The maximum I paid only 1 time was 5000 ! It's only because I wanted to fuck a very famous girl who is very active on social media, on facebook! She knows she's very sexy, and each time it's very difficult to meet her! She works in Skyfall gogo in WS and I was lucky to meet her there but she was busy with another Chinese man. She just came to me for a drink that night, and told me she was sorry because sher had to go for LT with a Chinese man who paid her 8000 for LT. And she gave me her Line that the next day she could come my hotel for ST before she go work there which was perfect for me like that I didn't have to pay the 2000 BF.

So the next day I called her on Line and she answered me when she wake up she was OK come my hotel around 4/5 pm. She told me she was free only for ST because she had to go work in the gogo again after. She asked me 4000 bahts! I really wanted fuck her so I didn't even try to negotiate! And I didn't have to pay BF which was fine. And when she arrived my room, she asked me to put a condom but I told her I didn't have any condom! So she directly told me she was OK fuck with me bareback but when wanted 5000 ! Of course I said yes, I gave her directly her 5000 and we got 2 fucking great sex hours! And I came twice inside her pussy. And again after in shower! I was happy and she was OK for everything!

[QUOTE=HellvelMan;2545019]Hope I will get correct direction from legends here.

Planning for short visit to Thailand. I have plenty of questions in my mind.

1. my plan to stay for 3 days in Thailand its purely for having sex with girls. As it is short time which place will fulfill my desire Bangkok or Pattaya.

2. Is there any in house providers where we can select the girl from line up and can spend ST or LT for reasonable price.

3. I have seen in youtube about massage shop girls line up they are really cute and young are they do FS.

4. Like thermae is there any other place to find bulk options.

5. Bars famous in Thailand is there any good KTV options which provide FS.

6. Came across Pinup in FB girls are really awesome. Will they agree for FS is there any condition like need to buy lady drinks for particular price.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Thailand requires foreigners to quarantine in a hotel for 10 days+ before entering the country.

[QUOTE=HellvelMan;2545019]Hope I will get correct direction from legends here.

Planning for short visit to Thailand. I have plenty of questions in my mind.

1. my plan to stay for 3 days in Thailand its purely for having sex with girls. As it is short time which place will fulfill my desire Bangkok or Pattaya.

2. Is there any in house providers where we can select the girl from line up and can spend ST or LT for reasonable price.

3. I have seen in youtube about massage shop girls line up they are really cute and young are they do FS.

4. Like thermae is there any other place to find bulk options.

5. Bars famous in Thailand is there any good KTV options which provide FS.

6. Came across Pinup in FB girls are really awesome. Will they agree for FS is there any condition like need to buy lady drinks for particular price.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]1. Bangkok is a big city where as Pattaya is small. Likewise Bangkok has beautiful girls but can be expensive. Pattaya on the other hand cheaper. It will be hard to say which city will fulfill your desire it is hard to say. Do some research here.

2. There maybe *****houses but it is strictly local. You go to the bar and select or else select street girls.

3. I had very good experiences in massage parlors. I do not like sex in massage places. I go for real massages. I have met some really pretty young massage girls and get their numbers. Called them later and they have come to my room and have sex. Some of them I have taken for few days. They get out of the massage shop saying they are going home for a few days but instead we had lots of fun going to some islands. One pretty Chiangmai Mai girl was a virgin. We had great few days in Phuket. So it is possible to have fun with massage girls. Other members here have mentioned having sex right there which I am not into.

4. Not sure.

5. There are plenty of KTV in Bangkok. Apart from KTV in China never been anywhere else. Again read reports.

6. Money buys happiness. In our case it buys good looking girls. Service quality is a toss up.

[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2545334]Soi 6 girls are generally be grade or even see grade girls and if you are rejected by 1/2 these women, what type of advice can be given. [/QUOTE]Even back in 2015 you'd be hard pressed to find 10 girls on Soi 6 that you would buy a lady drink for. At least back then it was a HJ and guaranteed DFK for a lady drink. That mofo from UK ruined it for all of us. Soi 6 instantly turned into a lame soi where you weren't getting any action for your lady drink unless it was one of the bars where you got to sit inside out of public view. Pre-COVID you'd be lucky to find 1 or 3 girls on Soi 6 to buy a lady drink for. What Soi 6 offered was a ton of girls for cheap. Now it's just cheapish.

[QUOTE=XXL;2545119]The expectation that under Covid gogo girls would be had at a discount didn't pan out. Nothing new there, state of affairs in fact maybe even worse than before. Quoted rate 3000-4000 for ST plus 600 to 1000 BF. Mamasans hardly visible, as though girls offering sex were no longer a main component of the business model. Pushing drinks is apparently how those gogos intend to stay afloat. Few customers each time I was there, never did I witness a single customer taking a girl out. Paid a drink to a couple of girls, they didn't seem the least interested in being taken out. One gave me her line ID but never replied to my messages. Did those girls come here on a no-sex contracts? Are they "keeping" themselves for "Asians" ahead of the latter's return?

I have found the gogos in Pattaya now to be less interesting than Nana Plaza's gogos pre-covid (outside Xmas and New Year). I wouldn't mind paying even 3000 from time to time to take out a gogo girl. What I can't stand is being scammed into paying drinks for nothing. Never mind the drink is "only" 200. Can't stand it. Gogos will not see me often in Pattaya though I'll try Bangkok's out when I get there.[/QUOTE]Gogo girls are a totally different animal than Soi 6 girls. Above average gogo girls look down on Soi 6 girls. Ask a Soi 6 girl why she's doesn't work on WS. Most will tell you they aren't pretty enough. It's not 100% true as there are a lot of ugly gogo girls too but girls see themselves as unable to compete with the top girls.

Soi 6 is a wham bam thank you maam experience. You can walk up to any girl, buy her a drink, and within 5 minutes you can be upstairs with her. There is rarely a rejection. Top gogo girls don't work like that. As they have the choice of whichever guy they want to go with that night or are not hurting for cash they want to know that if they decide to go with you they will have a good time. You need to show them you have charm and humor and can make them feel comfortable. I've been to gogo bars with guys who specialize with Soi 6, bar beers, and iBar who just can't cut it with girls in gogo bars. Not every guy can. Of course some gogo bars like Windmill and similar skanky bars are more like Soi 6. Show them some money and they will stick a beer bottle up their ass.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2545442]...Windmill and similar skanky bars are more like Soi 6. Show them some money and they will stick a beer bottle up their ass.[/QUOTE]Yeah; skanky is a good word. LOL. Personally, I don't find Windmill or Soi 6 to be appealing. But everyone has their own preferences and tastes, and I really can't judge anyone that frequents those joints.

As it's been mentioned by others before in the Thailand forum and from my own personal experience with interacting with these Thai girls in their personal space and private settings, the reality is that a majority of these girls do have someone. It's amazing how they're (both the Thai girl and guy) able to compartmentalize their relationships and allow this open-type of relationship to occur. But it happens. And the bar / gogo work is only viewed as a job or work that is separate from their own personal relationships (outside of work).

If you've never looked through these girls' social media accounts (I. E. FB), then you might be surprised at what you see and then compare it to how GFE she might appear to you in the bars.

Obviously, this doesn't hold true for all these girls. But I would probably think a majority of these girls have someone. Even one gogo girl confirmed to me that "most" girls have this sort of open relationship. This conversation only occurred because she wanted to know my thoughts on if I'd be able to allow her to continue to work and establish a fixed relationship with her. Everyone is different.

I guess my point of all this is to to say that in a way- yes; they are keeping themselves for Asians; particular the Thai guys.

With that knowledge in the background (and I can only speak to gogos like Pin-Up in Pattaya or Rainbow4 in BKK), then these girls do have a way to communicate their desires to want to go with you or not through their price. During these Covid times, the price really shouldn't be more than 3 k (even for LT).

But again, I think it's really up to the girls; and also relative to their own personal desperation point for money. But they always (for most of them) have someone to go home to (care for them) after work. Or worst case scenario, some other "Asian" sponsoring them locally or from abroad.

I just assume ALL girls have a boyfriend, girlfriend, or Tomboy. Whether they do or don't doesn't matter to me. Why should it? What matters is if they're hot / cute, fun to be with, and good in bed.

I've met guys who come to Thailand LOOKING for a GF. DON'T! If you live here fine but please never come to LOS as a 3 week tourist hoping to find love.

[QUOTE=TChizzle;2545459]Yeah; skanky is a good word. LOL. Personally, I don't find Windmill or Soi 6 to be appealing. But everyone has their own preferences and tastes, and I really can't judge anyone that frequents those joints.

[/QUOTE]Yup, absolutely correct. Some (like myself) happen to like the "sleazy" atmosphere.

I the ability to point and shoot at Soi 6. No need with hassle of picking the girl, then taking time / money to travel back to your hotel (or finding a ST hotel nearby). Just take the girl upstairs and get your deed done. Leave her and if unhappy, walk to bar next door and start again until finally satisfied. Just my take on this.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=TChizzle;2545459]As it's been mentioned by others before in the Thailand forum and from my own personal experience with interacting with these Thai girls in their personal space and private settings, the reality is that a majority of these girls do have someone.[/QUOTE]My experience is just the opposite. And if you ask they will tell you the truth. Same as when FL met his secret chick on Soi 6. She told him straight up that she had a boyfriend in Australia at the time.

[QUOTE=TChizzle;2545459]It's amazing how they're (both the Thai girl and guy) able to compartmentalize their relationships and allow this open-type of relationship to occur. But it happens. And the bar / gogo work is only viewed as a job or work that is separate from their own personal relationships (outside of work).[/QUOTE]Is this a surprise? My life is the same way and I am American, not Thai. It seems most mongers are this way anyway, not wanting their friends and family to know about their mongering. Even closed relationships are like this when one of the people have someone on the side. I think compartmentalization is more of a male trait than a female one though.

[QUOTE=TChizzle;2545459]If you've never looked through these girls' social media accounts (I. E. FB), then you might be surprised at what you see and then compare it to how GFE she might appear to you in the bars.[/QUOTE]All I tend to see is food on these chicks' social media. But I guess if the chick is a hooker in a bar then you will also see bar stuff, same as chicks on a farm show farm stuff. Begs the question why would you care about a hooker's social media. Even friends and family that I add, I don't look through their shit. It is more of a way of having an avenue to contact them. I guess I am still living in the original purpose of facebook from when I was in grad school.

[QUOTE=TChizzle;2545459]But I would probably think a majority of these girls have someone. Even one gogo girl confirmed to me that "most" girls have this sort of open relationship. This conversation only occurred because she wanted to know my thoughts on if I'd be able to allow her to continue to work and establish a fixed relationship with her.[/QUOTE]Why would you care? Who goes around getting into fixed relationships with prostitutes?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2545506]I've met guys who come to Thailand LOOKING for a GF. DON'T! If you live here fine but please never come to LOS as a 3 week tourist hoping to find love.[/QUOTE]Perfectly fine to come to Thailand to find love as a tourist. I did it and I am friends with some exes til this day. The problem is when people come and try to make girlfriends out of hookers in bars. The easiest test in the world for this is are you giving or sending her money? I have never had to give or send money to a real girlfriend in Thailand or anywhere else on this planet, no matter how poor they may have been.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2545533]Perfectly fine to come to Thailand to find love as a tourist. I did it and I am friends with some exes til this day. The problem is when people come and try to make girlfriends out of hookers in bars. The easiest test in the world for this is are you giving or sending her money? [/QUOTE]I'm saying the same thing as you just used different wording. When I said find love I meant guys meeting a Thai bar girl and hoping for her to be exclusive even after he leaves town. The money test is indeed the ultimate test. See how long a Thai girl stays with you after you stop barfining her, buying her food, sending her money, etc.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2545531]My experience is just the opposite. And if you ask they will tell you the truth. Same as when FL met his secret chick on Soi 6. She told him straight up that she had a boyfriend in Australia at the time.[/QUOTE]My position is "a majority of these (bar) girls do have someone". Your statement of "she told him straight up that she had a boyfriend" seems to support my theory. Not sure how your experience is the opposite in your example.

[QUOTE]Is this a surprise?[/QUOTE]For some, yes. For some, no. For some, it doesn't matter.

[QUOTE]Begs the question why would you care about a hooker's social media... I guess I am still living in the original purpose of facebook from when I was in grad school.[/QUOTE]I don't. I'm assuming that you think I do by this statement. You are incorrect in your assumption. I'm sorry to hear that grad school didn't help you with improved critical reading skills.

[QUOTE]Why would you care?[/QUOTE]Personally, this knowledge of girls having someone doesn't affect me. I still get quoted a fair price with P4 P girls. But if your understanding of my post leads you to interpret that I would care, then I apologize for your lack of understanding and maybe recommend that you re-read the post again several times to get a better understanding. I find it helpful to use some level of critical reading of someone's post before making any guesses or assumptions. It can be difficult for some. Good luck to you.

[QUOTE=TChizzle;2545542]I'm assuming that you think I do by this statement. You are incorrect in your assumption. I'm sorry to hear that grad school didn't help you with improved critical reading skills.

Personally, this knowledge of girls having someone doesn't affect me. I still get quoted a fair price with P4 P girls. But if your understanding of my post leads you to interpret that I would care, then I apologize for your lack of understanding [/QUOTE]Sorry. When I used you I meant it in second person plural as speaking to an audience, not second person singular as speaking to you in particular. That is one of the fucked up things about English. Maybe it should be you and yous to help people distinguish. Likewise I apologize for your lack of understanding.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2545506]I just assume ALL girls have a boyfriend, girlfriend, or Tomboy. Whether they do or don't doesn't matter to me. Why should it? What matters is if they're hot / cute, fun to be with, and good in bed.

I've met guys who come to Thailand LOOKING for a GF. DON'T! If you live here fine but please never come to LOS as a 3 week tourist hoping to find love.[/QUOTE]Are you Sure?

There's a Flower s guy on you tube giving advice on doing business in Pattaya.

His claim to Fame. Bought a loser Bar in Pattaya.

The world has gone insane.