Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;1715057]First I went to Climax, and it was fine, but I couldn't find a place to sit, and the live music was crap, so I wasn't in the mood to hit on girls.

Then I went to Nana. First at Rainbow 4. There was a really really fat girl dancing on the stage. I made a scowl and looked away, and immediately the waitress told me to pay my beer (bottle was only half empty) and leave after I was done. Who am I to argue? I still had some time to chit-chat with some random bloke who was sitting next to me and had a good attitude.

Then I went to Mandarin, which in my experience has been more of a sure thing for me lately. I took the upstairs one because my last adventure there was in the bottom Mandarin, and I did not want to meet the same girl again. I sat next to some French guy who was chummy with the owner, and that gave me face. Some hottie, number 26, tried to sit with me after she finished dancing. I must have ogled her while she was on the stage, but honestly they all looked a bit the same and I could not tell for sure. But she was here, so I offered her a lady drink. Her English was basically nonexistent, as is my Thai, but that did not bother either of us. She was about 1 m59,24 years old (she said 20 but she was lying), maybe 41 kilos, very skinny with curves. A body to die for! No baby marks on her tummy. Said her name twice to me but I cannot recall, I think it sounded a bit like Nuii or something similar.

I barfined her and agreed on a short-term price. Shook hands with the owner on the way out. First short-time hotel was full, so she found another one. I turned off the bedroom light and left half a crack in the bathroom door so there would be some ambient lighting coming from the bathroom light. It was just perfect!

And so was she. Maybe it was because she saw me as a friend of the friend of the boss, but she was absolutely amazing in the sack. She kept on going for a very long time. I swear she came once towards the end. In Thailand there have been many times where I have said to myself, while in the middle banging some working girl, "this is the best fuck of my life ever!" Now it cannot have been true every time, but it sure feels true when I am doing it. This was one of those moments. I honestly cannot compare it with the other dozen times I said that to myself, because I have forgotten most of them, as surely I will forget this one too. But it felt good while it lasted.

I lasted a long time due to the booze and she did not complained. At some point she was completely worn out so she just took a little nap at my feet and, revived, came back 10 minutes later to finish me off with some determined grinding. Heaven! I gave her a tip.

Would I recommend? Yes, but get the lighting right. Would I repeat? I hardly ever do, so I don't see why I should make an exception for her.[/QUOTE]Regarding the fat girl on the stage, I was in the same club last night. Are you referring to the maga fat white girl on the stage? Later she took off her top, what the hell was that. Western men who travel half around the world to be in Asia do not want to be reminded of the fat cows they left behind in their western country. I also left the club as she was making me sick. I have no idea why management let that happen-maybe to make fun of fat drunk western women.

[QUOTE=Simian;1715148]I have long ago promised myself not to go hunting in Nana due to the sometimes absurd pricing, bad attitude and sometimes dreadful service. I normally just treat it as the usual tourist trap where you bring newby friends who insist on going there. But your excellent report, ES, has made me wonder whether I am a little too swift in my judgement, at least with respect to Mandarin.

Can you let us know what you paid for barfine and tip?[/QUOTE]Barfine was either 600 or 700, I cannot recall. But I can recall with absolute certainty even in my drunken state that it was not outside this range.

Tip was 200. But that may not be what you meant. 200 was what I gave in excess of the agreed-upon "for the girl" number. Excess tip was appreciation from me for her endurance and quality, and certainly was not expected or required in any way, shape or form. I could have gotten away with zero instead and there would have been no frown.

What I pre-committed upfront to give to the girl after satisfactory discharge of her duties was 2500. This looks pretty standard for the place: they even have a little plastified card for it! Unusual for go-go bars, but I like it because it reduces the amount of scamming the girls can think they can get away with.

Hope this helps with calibration of expectations and your strategic decision-making.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1715181]Regarding the fat girl on the stage, I was in the same club last night. Are you referring to the maga fat white girl on the stage? Later she took off her top, what the hell was that. Western men who travel half around the world to be in Asia do not want to be reminded of the fat cows they left behind in their western country. I also left the club as she was making me sick. I have no idea why management let that happen-maybe to make fun of fat drunk western women.[/QUOTE]You left, I left, maybe eventually management will get the message that fat-shaming is cool.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;1715271]Barfine was either 600 or 700, I cannot recall. But I can recall with absolute certainty even in my drunken state that it was not outside this range.
What I pre-committed upfront to give to the girl after satisfactory discharge of her duties was 2500. This looks pretty standard for the place: they even have a little plastified card for it! Unusual for go-go bars, but I like it because it reduces the amount of scamming the girls can think they can get away with.

Hope this helps with calibration of expectations and your strategic decision-making.[/QUOTE]The plastified card is the scam itself.

[QUOTE=PaulKausch;1715055]Dr BJ Salon and DR BJ Nuru are across the street from each other on Soi 7/1. As you would expect the standard service at the Dr BJ Salon is a BBBJ. There are also VIP rooms, which are quite nice, where you can have 2 hours of FS with the girl of your choice. I've only booked girls in the VIP rooms and cannot comment on the BJ only service. Dr BJ Nuru also has VIP rooms, which are also very nice, where you get a 2 hour nuru with FS. I've also partaken of this service and recommend it. Both venues have overnight takeout. See the websites for more information. I've read reports in which guys complain about the quality of the ladies they see as they walk by. This is not my experience. I've pre-booked ladies I've chosen from the website. All the girls I booked closely resembled their photos. I was happy with the service I received. I've also met Dr BJ and find him to be a very pleasant fellow. In the past he posted reports on girls he booked from various MPs; none were from either of his establishments. I found his reports to be very well-written. Unfortunately, for whatever reason he is no longer writing posts.[/QUOTE]I enjoy reading your posts Paul, you are articulate and knowledgeable but having visited Dr BJ I find your glowing account of this place and the gel shop puzzling. If it had been written by the owner himself it couldn't have sounded more appealing. Peoples perceptions vary but the ladies I saw at both the BJ bar and sitting outside the gel shop were far from attractive and more importantly the experience I had with the nurse was a complete waste of time and money. Agreed this could have been a one off but I've read a fair amount on this and other forums about both places and there is a lot of disappointment. Could it be that finding the owner "to be a very pleasant fellow" influences one's judgment or is it that beauty is in the eye of the beholder? My advise to anybody intending to visit would be caveat emptor.

[QUOTE=GerryGa;1715332]I enjoy reading your posts Paul, you are articulate and knowledgeable but having visited Dr BJ I find your glowing account of this place and the gel shop puzzling. If it had been written by the owner himself it couldn't have sounded more appealing. Peoples perceptions vary but the ladies I saw at both the BJ bar and sitting outside the gel shop were far from attractive and more importantly the experience I had with the nurse was a complete waste of time and money. Agreed this could have been a one off but I've read a fair amount on this and other forums about both places and there is a lot of disappointment. Could it be that finding the owner "to be a very pleasant fellow" influences one's judgment or is it that beauty is in the eye of the beholder? My advise to anybody intending to visit would be caveat emptor.[/QUOTE]I am huge fan of BJ bars and have been to most of them in Bangkok and Pattaya and have yet to see a bunch of attractive girls in any one location. I have seen the girls at Dr. BJ and agree with many of the posters here who say they are average or below average looking and it has nothing to do with the eye of the beholder as beauty is a constant. Doesn't mean the service won't be good and no one should expect to find attractive ladies blowing men for a living. Attractive girls are going to be elsewhere where they can make money off their looks and for less work. Also most of these BJ Bars do offer FS for a higher price, just ask for it.

[QUOTE=GerryGa;1715332]I enjoy reading your posts Paul, you are articulate and knowledgeable but having visited Dr BJ I find your glowing account of this place and the gel shop puzzling. If it had been written by the owner himself it couldn't have sounded more appealing.[/QUOTE]As I wrote, I have only used the VIP rooms. Other than the entrance / bar / lobby I have no idea what other rooms in the facilities look like. The VIP rooms are huge, the size of large bedrooms and furnished as such. The rooms and especially the beds are very comfortable. A few others, Syzygies comes to mind, have said the same thing about the VIP rooms.

I also wrote I've only selected girls from photos on the website. Naturally I selected girls I found to be reasonably attractive. The ladies I booked closely resembled the photos. The first girl I booked, I no longer remember her letter, was a very young lady at the BJ Salon. Her photo is no longer on the website. I expected the flawless skin in the photos was produced by Photoshop. I was surprised to discover in the flesh her complexion really was that flawless. Another lady, #50 whose photos are still on the nuru venue's website, was much thinner in person, but allowing for the weight lose looked like her photos. I posted reports some time ago about these sessions. Both sessions were at about 5 pm. I only saw a half dozen or so other ladies at the venues when I visited. Their looks ranged from a bit below average to average, which, with the exception of Nataree, is how I find most of the ladies to be at all the MPs I have frequented over the years: Annie's, The Dr BJ shops, various oily MPs around the Phrom Phong BTS stations and Tulip. I have met Dr BJ and had a pleasant conversation with him. I asked about decent restaurants around Nana Plaza. He referred me to a restaurant a few blocks further down on Soi 4, Swan, and recommended the steamed sea bass. I tried it. It was good. It has been some time since I have seen a report written by him. A search may turn up some of his old posts. His writing speaks for itself.

I write about my experiences and express my opinions. I wouldn't expect my experiences to necessarily carry over to others. As for my opinions, they are always right. Just joking. Of course opinions are highly subjective. There may be consensus that some ladies are extremely attractive or unattractive; or that some provide very good or very poor service. In between these extremes it is harder to find agreement. We may agree that a particular lady is average looking, but one of us may find her kind of sexy while the other does not.

Having said all of that, there is something else I want to say. While I believe the vast majority of reports on ISG are forthright, for some time I have been suspicious of disingenuous reports. I am not speaking of the reports written by someone we have never heard of with 1 prior post lavishing praise on a venue or a particular girl. These are obviously not credible. I am refer to a few reports that I believe pan a venue or a particular lady for personal reasons. In some cases I suspect the author of the post is writing on behalf of a friend who owns a competing MP. Or the author may have a personal beef with the owner, or a beef with a particular lady that has nothing to do with the general quality of service she provides. In fact the beef may be that she has been providing too much good service to too many other guys. I also think some guys write less than glowing reports about ladies they know provide very good service. The intention is to discourage other guys from booking them. I've booked ladies with whom I've had very good sessions. Then I'll read a poor review of the lady; but other ladies I know at the venue will tell me that the lady in question is extremely popular and is difficult to book.

As for Dr. BJ's shops, frankly, based on the website photos and the appearances of the ladies I saw at the shops, I'm not attracted to most of the ladies; however my personal experiences with the ladies I booked were good and I like the VIP rooms.

My other point is be careful about drawing conclusions from the appearance of ladies you see waiting for customers. There is a reason they are sitting around idle. There may be an attractive lady or two inside the shop banging away. I've had good experiences at every shop I've frequented. I book ladies in advance. I do my reconnaissance. I ask people I know, other ISG members, shop owners / managers and the ladies themselves to make recommendations based on what I'm looking for. I'll ask if the ladies really look like the photos. Sometimes the answers I get are worthless. I can usually figure this out from the tone of the answer. Sometimes I get recommendations that turn out to be very reliable.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1715279]The plastified card is the scam itself.[/QUOTE]Meaning I should have tried to negotiate her short-time fee down to 2000?

For some reason I found myself walking around the Nana area at about 3 am. Needless to say, the Nana Entertainment Plaza itself was fully closed down by that time. Some freelancers of dubious gender identity were hanging around Soi Nana trying to harpoon a customer, and some bars were open. As I was walking back towards Pathumwan, having nearly given up on everything, I saw a chick in short shorts standing on the sidewalk. She had earphones on tied up to her smartphone. I did a double-take and so did she, so we started talking to each other. Her English was good and her personality very pleasant. We agreed on a short-term fee and walked down Soi Nana to a short-time hotel.

Her name was Lek, she was 30 years old. Very nice face, but a few kilos too many on her body. That didn't show when she was dressed, but it was obvious when she was undressed. Anyway, banging her felt like banging a girl when I was young. There was a lot of mutual kissing, she seemed to be really enjoying herself. It looked like she really wanted to be in my bed. I didn't think it was possible for me to come, given how tired I was and the amount of alcohol ingested, but come I did. That is how nice and relaxed she was.

All in all, a great experience. Not in the category of "best sex I've ever had" because of the body issue, but I certainly felt things I had not felt since before I started paying for sex. Would I repeat? Probably not, and in any case the odds of ever seeing her again are close to zilch.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;1715448]For some reason I found myself walking around the Nana area at about 3 am. Needless to say, the Nana Entertainment Plaza itself was fully closed down by that time. Some freelancers of dubious gender identity were hanging around Soi Nana trying to harpoon a customer, and some bars were open. As I was walking back towards Pathumwan, having nearly given up on everything, I saw a chick in short shorts standing on the sidewalk. She had earphones on tied up to her smartphone. I did a double-take and so did she, so we started talking to each other. Her English was good and her personality very pleasant. We agreed on a short-term fee and walked down Soi Nana to a short-time hotel.

Her name was Lek, she was 30 years old. Very nice face, but a few kilos too many on her body. That didn't show when she was dressed, but it was obvious when she was undressed. Anyway, banging her felt like banging a girl when I was young. There was a lot of mutual kissing, she seemed to be really enjoying herself. It looked like she really wanted to be in my bed. I didn't think it was possible for me to come, given how tired I was and the amount of alcohol ingested, but come I did. That is how nice and relaxed she was.

All in all, a great experience. Not in the category of "best sex I've ever had" because of the body issue, but I certainly felt things I had not felt since before I started paying for sex. Would I repeat? Probably not, and in any case the odds of ever seeing her again are close to zilch.[/QUOTE]To get a REPORT on a night out rather than the endless one-liners arguing about / asking about "How much?

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;1715448]For some reason I found myself walking around the Nana area at about 3 am. Needless to say, the Nana Entertainment Plaza itself was fully closed down by that time. Some freelancers of dubious gender identity were hanging around Soi Nana trying to harpoon a customer, and some bars were open. As I was walking back towards Pathumwan, having nearly given up on everything, I saw a chick in short shorts standing on the sidewalk. She had earphones on tied up to her smartphone. I did a double-take and so did she, so we started talking to each other. Her English was good and her personality very pleasant. We agreed on a short-term fee and walked down Soi Nana to a short-time hotel.

Her name was Lek, she was 30 years old. Very nice face, but a few kilos too many on her body. That didn't show when she was dressed, but it was obvious when she was undressed. Anyway, banging her felt like banging a girl when I was young. There was a lot of mutual kissing, she seemed to be really enjoying herself. It looked like she really wanted to be in my bed. I didn't think it was possible for me to come, given how tired I was and the amount of alcohol ingested, but come I did. That is how nice and relaxed she was.

All in all, a great experience. Not in the category of "best sex I've ever had" because of the body issue, but I certainly felt things I had not felt since before I started paying for sex. Would I repeat? Probably not, and in any case the odds of ever seeing her again are close to zilch.[/QUOTE]How much did you pay?

[QUOTE=PaulKausch;1715403]As I wrote, I have only used the VIP rooms. Other than the entrance / bar / lobby I have no idea what other rooms in the facilities look like. The VIP rooms are huge, the size of large bedrooms and furnished as such. The rooms and especially the beds are very comfortable. A few others, Syzygies comes to mind, have said the same thing about the VIP rooms.

I also wrote I've only selected girls from photos on the website. Naturally I selected girls I found to be reasonably attractive. The ladies I booked closely resembled the photos. The first girl I booked, I no longer remember her letter, was a very young lady at the BJ Salon. Her photo is no longer on the website. I expected the flawless skin in the photos was produced by Photoshop. I was surprised to discover in the flesh her complexion really was that flawless. Another lady, #50 whose photos are still on the nuru venue's website, was much thinner in person, but allowing for the weight lose looked like her photos. I posted reports some time ago about these sessions. Both sessions were at about 5 pm. I only saw a half dozen or so other ladies at the venues when I visited. Their looks ranged from a bit below average to average, which, with the exception of Nataree, is how I find most of the ladies to be at all the MPs I have frequented over the years: Annie's, The Dr BJ shops, various oily MPs around the Phrom Phong BTS stations and Tulip. I have met Dr BJ and had a pleasant conversation with him. I asked about decent restaurants around Nana Plaza. He referred me to a restaurant a few blocks further down on Soi 4, Swan, and recommended the steamed sea bass. I tried it. It was good. It has been some time since I have seen a report written by him. A search may turn up some of his old posts. His writing speaks for itself...[/QUOTE]As always Paul a well constructed articulate post. It may be wrong to judge a place on a single visit but on a short trip this was all I had to go on. My approach to enjoying P4P is do the research, be laid back, hope for the best accept the disappointments and move on. That said my experience at DR. BJ was so bad as to be especially disappointing. If it had happened at say Nataree I would put it down to a poor choice of provider but because of the quality of talent available there I would try again. . Sadly the line up at the BJ shops was so unappealing that for me at least this is not an option. . It is interesting Paul that you use the web sites to make your selections. Believing this to be a pointless exercise due to photoshopping or the girls no longer being available I haven't bothered but your experiences suggest it could be worthwhile. Will start compiling an album for my next visit.

[QUOTE=GerryGa;1714015]Apart from an early relapse (not in Tandy) I didn't waste my rationed energies on hand jobs so I neither asked for nor was offered a happy ending at Tandy. I always had the Premium massage which is a hot towel / hot stone / hot oil treatment that was indeed super sensual. However I was happy to allow things to settle back to normality and head off primed for my BJ or FS session. I don't know what would have happened if I has asked for a special but based on the massage I got I would have to imagine it could be given favourable consideration. Why not pop in and find out? Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]I was at this massage shop on 53 soy today. There was a shorter girl available. Massage ok, but I think I got about half of the time a sensual massage, I think about 45 minutes of 90 spent around the genital area and breast. She try hard to make me cum with HJ, but did not want to release (easier to decide when I take Cialis), but I think she is more an outsider in this shop. Anyway for 720 bath + 240 (tip), I left with a smile.

[QUOTE=GerryGa;1715605]My approach to enjoying P4P is do the research, be laid back, hope for the best accept the disappointments and move on.

It is interesting Paul that you use the web sites to make your selections. Believing this to be a pointless exercise due to photoshopping or the girls no longer being available I haven't bothered but your experiences suggest it could be worthwhile. Will start compiling an album for my next visit.[/QUOTE]Gerry, in my opinion you approach mongering with the right attitude.

As for photos, yes I do use photos as part of my initial screening. I also look to see if a shop has Twitter or Facebook pages. For example, I've attached two photos of #50 from Dr BJ Nuru, one from the website and one from Facebook. However, as I wrote, the young lady had lost a considerable amount of weight when I saw her. I asked DR BJ about the other lady I saw. He said she looked exactly like her photos. I was a little skeptical,. He was right. Also, some shops post heavily edited photos along with more natural photos of the women. To illustrate this, I've attached three photos of Bell, one is a heavily edited photo from the website; a second is a more natural photo; the third is a candid photo.

However, I can not over emphasize. This is only part of my initial screening; and I do not assume the photos are accurate unless it is obviously a candid photo. I ask and listen to what I am told. For example, I've found the person who answers EZ Massage emails is candid about which girls look like their website photos. EZ also posts candid photos of many of the ladies, along with the doctored photos.

For example, the last two photos are of Four at EZ.

Someone was talking about his favorite girl at Suzie Wong, so I checked in there first for any talent, moved on pretty quick to to Baccara. Lots of cute girls, tons of guys, nothing struck my fancy, so I went on to Shark to check out the girl I wanted to take out last time, when I was in there with Am. She was busy with another guy, so some girl invited her self to sit with me and was pushing hard for me to take her out. I sat there for some time, trying to let her know it's not going to happen when this very hot girl walks on stage, far end from me. She (number 26, don't remember the name) has fairly dark skin, her face looks Indian, and her body is amazing. Her face is quite attractive to me, maybe a 7, but her body is a 9. I wave her over and she does not seem happy, but she obliged. At first I'd thought she had silicone, but when I touched them they felt real. She sat down and was just stuck up and pushing for a second drink (less than 3 minutes), and a tip and what have you. I asked her how much for short time, even though at this point I had had enough of her already: 4000 baht. I did not even try to negotiate, though I should have asked her if I could gag her at that price, LOL. I had no interest at that point, so I sent her on her way. She asked for a tip one more time and was off.

I was about to leave when the object of my desire became available: Sow, #86. Sow isn't incredibly hot, with silicone boobs, but she is pretty enough. Up close her face shows more age than she is willing to admit to. I was ready for a performer rather than a looker, so I barfined her. 600 baht for the bar, she asked 2500 and I did not negotiate, since I appreciate when the girls don't try to see if they can get away with 4000 (or more).

We showered together, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, cowgirl. The BJ was fun, and the sex was great. She knows how to ride! I wanted to go into other positions, but it was just perfect the way she did it, so that's where I finished.

All in all a very good session. Sow claims to be 24 (face looks late 20's), has a child, but it does not show, not at all on her stomach, and just the tiniest bit if stretch marks on the side of the hips. I'm still not a fan of the silicone though.

Recommended? For sure. I think she is a performer, no mater what. Very sweet girl, will repeat (yeah, it's not a habit I'm proud of).