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[QUOTE=Turgid;2372934]This is very true. I see Colombians walking in El Centro using their phones. I once pulled out my Samsung S6 in public and two guys tried to grab it from me, foreigners are particularly vulnerable. Beware of advice from guys who say its ok to walk in El Centro late at night.[/QUOTE]There is a robbery statistic that El Centro is first on the list followed by El Poblado. The main reason is because these two areas have more tourists.
I was recently in Medellin and visited el Centro during the day. I met up with other ISG members and spent the time at the Botero park area. One thing I can say is that even during the day it can be dangerous. During the day there were street fights including a stabbing behind the museum area. Girls I spoke to do not hang around there when it starts getting dark. My recommendation to someone wanting to stay there for the first time is to get a hotel room for just one night. See if it is for you. I can tell you that many ISG members that stay there don’t hang around there after dark.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2372936]Jajaja! I was just trolling to flame up the discussion. The days I was :P
Definitely, I did not mind to walk around the Centro at night, when "odd characters" (the gringos) are not around. But I have nearly nothing with me, I keep all 4 eyes open, and I keep distance from any group of 2 or more guys.
I agree with all your comments. I wrote many posts warning people that Centro is DANGEROUS. Overconfidence can be lethal.
Your Darth Vader[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2372885]Hi folks,
It has been 3 or 4 years since I visited Medellin. Now is the time to plan a 2nd visit! However I'm debating whether I should go to Medellin again or visit Cali this time. Has anything changed recently in Medellin scene in terms of prices, girls quality, selection, etc? Any new brothels or strip clubs that I should visit? My to go places were New Life and Energy during the day, and Fase Dos and La Isla at night. I also tried Loutron brothel once. If anything else should be added to my list (or switched) please let me know.
How is Cali scene compared to Medellin? It seems like it is a bit cheaper, but girls are mostly on the thicker side (not my taste, I like them thin) Are girls in Cali more GFE?
Thanks![/QUOTE]If you like thin girls, stick with Medellin. Cali girls are much curvier with implants.
And, Cali isn't much cheaper if you are visiting high end clubs. Actually, more expensive if you liked La Isla or Loutron in Medellin.
Only drawback with Medellin for me was girls are a bit hardened and felt robotic with all the tourism. On the another hand, Cali girls were much nicer and offered GFE on my recent visits.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2372829]
For those foreigners / gringos who can't pass as Colombians, meaning you obviously don't belong, you should be of the mindset that there is a big "X" on your back at all times and should never let your guard down, as you are the perfect target for the Ladrones. Not only at night but during the day as well, so being street smart may be helpful, but your at disadvantage being a foreigner.[/QUOTE]It's just common sense.
I agree with everything in your post.
Everything has a risk factor.
Can you walk the streets at night. Sure.
Will you get mugged, attacked, etc. Who knows.
But the odds go way up in the late night for sure.
There will always be guys who say they do it, no problem.
Good for them.
We all have our risk / comfort level.
To advise guys, new guys especially, that it's safe, business as usual after dark, is bad advice IMO.
I've been walking the streets of Centro for about 20 years now.
Long before the gringo casa map, when a gringo was scarce and a hot commodity.
Imagine that, LOL.
I agree with you Surfer500. I know of one girl that works near the el centro area and will go to parque lleras but she goes for 150 k in the el centro area and has told me that one time a gringo actually paid her 200 dollars at parque lleras. The girls that go for 30 k seem highly unlikely to be in parque lleras asking over 10 x that amount.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2372891]The notion that Chicks who work the El Centro street scene, and then leave to go other places like Parque Lleras just doesn't make any sense at all. The El Centro Chicks would be like fish out of water in Parque Lleras, not only by how they would be under-dressed, but also by not having experience dealing with the extranjeros that pull Chicks from there. El Centro Chicas cater to locals, not extranjeros who monger in Lleras. Why would a Chica who could make 150 K in Lleras work for 30 K in El Centro.
In terms of transportation, travel for most of the El Centro Chicas is either by bus or the Metro, ranging from 2200 to 2700 Pesos each way. So for a Chica who travels by Metro, the cost would be the same for them if they got off at the Parque Berrio Station or the Poblado Staion which is a twenty minute walk from Lleras.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2372986]I agree with you Surfer500. I know of one girl that works near the el centro area and will go to parque lleras but she goes for 150 k and has told me that one time a gringo actually paid her 200 dollars at parque lleras. The girls that go for 30 k seem highly unlikely to be in parque lleras asking over 10 x that amount.
.[/QUOTE]Well, it's definitely not the norm, however, it does happen, there are at least some Centro girls that go to Lleras.
I was walking about the other day in Botero, saw a cutie selling gum.
Chatted her up, sexy Venezolana, 19 years old.
Her mother was there as well, and not bad looking either.
Anyway, I invited them to a nearby place for a soup and something to drink.
I asked the daughter if she worked as well, in the biz.
She said yes, but in Parque Lleras, for 200-300 kp.
After the lunch, I took the daughter, to a motel, told her I'd pay her afterwards, what I thought was right.
I knew she’d be happy with whatever I gave her.
We obviously bonded, had a good connection, great time.
I gave her 50 k plus a mini VS cream I had on me.
She was happy.
I told her, good luck with the Lleras crowd.
She smiled.
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I know a few girls from Centro casas who also work the Gringo Inn and Parque Lleras.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2372891]The notion that Chicks who work the El Centro street scene, and then leave to go other places like Parque Lleras just doesn't make any sense at all. The El Centro Chicks would be like fish out of water in Parque Lleras, not only by how they would be under-dressed, but also by not having experience dealing with the extranjeros that pull Chicks from there. El Centro Chicas cater to locals, not extranjeros who monger in Lleras. Why would a Chica who could make 150 K in Lleras work for 30 K in El Centro.
In terms of transportation, travel for most of the El Centro Chicas is either by bus or the Metro, ranging from 2200 to 2700 Pesos each way. So for a Chica who travels by Metro, the cost would be the same for them if they got off at the Parque Berrio Station or the Poblado Staion which is a twenty minute walk from Lleras.[/QUOTE]
El Centro is a large area. Plaza Botero is only a small part of El Centro.
There is a portable police station in front of Museo de Antioquia. When the police station is present, it means the police is around. The police will move the station to storage after 8 PM. They will stick around for a while maybe until 9 PM.
The area you want to avoid will be the north toward Prado station, both sides of the Metro unless you are certain you know where you are going. These areas are not necessary dangerous but you may get into areas that will scare you. Raudel block is as far as you should go at night.
When there is an accident, the police gets there very quick. I have seen it multiple times. That is one reason they are on bikes all the times. I saw a machete fight in the area between Metro station and Botero Plaza. They were fighting like less than 20 feet away from me. The police on bike got there in time to break up the fight.
This is an area with a lot of tourists. The city needs this place to be safe. I also know about a stabbing. All I can say is this, unless you know why the victim is stabbed, and know the consequence. The conclusion made will be speculative without the detail because it is not everyday occurrence.
There is similar constant police presence in the worst drug area, they just guard the street to keep peace. They don't stop people from selling and using drugs.
So use your common sense based on this information.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2373112]El Centro is a large area. Plaza Botero is only a small part of El Centro.
There is a portable police station in front of Museo de Antioquia. When the police station is present, it means the police is around. The police will move the station to storage after 8 PM. They will stick around for a while maybe until 9 PM.
The area you want to avoid will be the north toward Prado station, both sides of the Metro unless you are certain you know where you are going. These areas are not necessary dangerous but you may get into areas that will scare you. Raudel block is as far as you should go at night..[/QUOTE]Most of the businesses in El Centro close by 8 pm. By 9 pm, except in areas where businesses are still open, it's almost deserted. Unless you're going between open businesses, there's nothing to see that you want to see.
You will see the various homeless people laying down for the night in their usual spots. You'll see the zombies with their tiny black plastic bags and you'll see the recyclers. There are guys who pick up cardboard. There are guys who collect the glass, the plastic, even the aluminum foil. Then there are the ones who take whatever food they can find, often eating it from the garbage bag.
The working girls will mostly be gone, except in front of, or inside the open bars. There's no reason to stand around waiting for customers on a deserted street, or in a deserted park. Plaza Botero will be dead.
If you want to walk around at night, first go during the day. Find the places which will be open at night. Learn your way around between the open businesses.
You can walk around at night and not have a problem. However, except for the strip clubs and a few 24 hour restaurants, there's nothing to see or do.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2373112]There is similar constant police presence in the worst drug area, they just guard the street to keep peace. They don't stop people from selling and using drugs.
So use your common sense based on this information.[/QUOTE]Where is this?
Hi folks,
Has anyone had a threesome experience in Medellin or Cali? How does it work? Should I just go to a brothel and pick 2 girls that I like? Or ask for bisexual ladies specifically? I assume the girls should be comfortable working together / touching each other, therefore picking 2 random girls may not work. I do not expect real lesbian action, they both have to focus on my junior, however I would prefer them kissing and touching each other as well.
Maybe it is a good idea to hit a lesbian bar / club? My Spanish sucks though and brothels could be my only option.
I agree with your points Nounce. However, I do believe that the robberies and violent crimes occur more often than you think. It is not something that would get publicized as it would only deter tourist and has no upside. I can tell you that from what I have been told from the girls there is that muggings happen every day and night and one must keep a watchful eye. I know from experience that cabbies don't want you rolling down the taxi windows in fear of someone robbing you and him. I know it happens because it happened to 2 FB girls I know along with 2 others who were robbed during the day shopping for their kids.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2373112]El Centro is a large area. Plaza Botero is only a small part of El Centro.
There is a portable police station in front of Museo de Antioquia. When the police station is present, it means the police is around. The police will move the station to storage after 8 PM. They will stick around for a while maybe until 9 PM.
The area you want to avoid will be the north toward Prado station, both sides of the Metro unless you are certain you know where you are going. These areas are not necessary dangerous but you may get into areas that will scare you. Raudel block is as far as you should go at night.
When there is an accident, the police gets there very quick. I have seen it multiple times. That is one reason they are on bikes all the times. I saw a machete fight in the area between Metro station and Botero Plaza. They were fighting like less than 20 feet away from me. The police on bike got there in time to break up the fight.
This is an area with a lot of tourists. The city needs this place to be safe. I also know about a stabbing. All I can say is this, unless you know why the victim is stabbed, and know the consequence. The conclusion made will be speculative without the detail because it is not everyday occurrence.
There is similar constant police presence in the worst drug area, they just guard the street to keep peace. They don't stop people from selling and using drugs.
So use your common sense based on this information.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2373238]Maybe it is a good idea to hit a lesbian bar / club? My Spanish sucks though and brothels could be my only option.[/QUOTE]Seriously, how could even think you could attract any attention there? Except maybe from males if you are handsome?
How does it work you ask? I would suggest first to practice such clubs in your country, before venturing in a place where, on top of everything, you also have to pass a language barrier.
(to all others who want to relax and have a drink in a LGBT-friendly environment, I would suggest the so-called "Calle del Pecado, not far from Periodista).
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2373244]I agree with your points Nounce. However, I do believe that the robberies and violent crimes occur more often than you think. It is not something that would get publicized as it would only deter tourist and has no upside. I can tell you that from what I have been told from the girls there is that muggings happen every day and night and one must keep a watchful eye. I know from experience that cabbies don't want you rolling down the taxi windows in fear of someone robbing you and him. I know it happens because it happened to 2 FB girls I know along with 2 others who were robbed during the day shopping for their kids..[/QUOTE]I got to agree, yes absolutely stabbing happen on a regular basis, by regular I mean every third or fourth day or so, it is then cleaned up, the leaking person who has been stabbed are driven to a local hospital and sewn up then I have seen, believe this or not, the victim who was stabbed in their neck return to the vara later that night bandages and all.
This is "life on the streets". Yes welcome to the Vera.
The Tall Man.