Pattaya Reports

Seems same tend to apply to freelancers. Have also tested with few of those I liked, with similar results. Works for few days, few weeks with some, but at the end the combination of friends, party, opportunity to try different dick as they wish, and money just pulls them back like a magnet. Easy to get a girl out of a bar / club, but not the bar / club out of girl holds.

Funnily enough lately had a case with a non-working girl with similar results. Even if I felt we were quite good together, dad to give up as she had to go party and eat with friends so that not really spend time with me much at all. Prime example of a case where going with a non-working 'normal' girl ended up spending more per pop than with a working one so had to stop as did not make business sense. She was kind of a good girl, and I made it clear to her if she stayed with me living normal life, she would not need to worry about money, and yet she could not help. Go figure.

Maybe just had bad luck, and wondering how the many guys who actually have pulled a girl out to 'normal life' worked it out.

[QUOTE=Aviator12;2546455]So true in my opinion. Now of course, our views are moulded by those girls we know in the P4 P industry. Mine is based on close relationships with 4-5 girls over several years. They absolutely love the "party" and can not imagine a life without their friends and Thai food. I have offered them quite good deals, a lifestyle were the would be financially covered, either living in Thailand or farangland. But they declined. I treat them well. They tell me they love me. We have great time togehter. But after a while the pull from their party life and friends just suck them back. That is why hardened bargirls do not make good life partners in most cases. Let them carry on and enjoy them within the 3-day rule. It's just how it is in Thailand.[/QUOTE]

It's amusing reading recent posts on how girls behave when offered money by generous benefactors to devote themselves to him. What a bunch of losers they are. Seems the ungrateful hoes prefer different dick every night and getting wasted with their friends. Maybe true perhaps so or maybe they just get shit bored with the old geezer and all the money in the world isn't worth having to blow him every night.

[QUOTE=Knobrm;2546972]I made it clear to her if she stayed with me living normal life, she would not need to worry about money, and yet she could not help. Go figure.

Maybe just had bad luck, and wondering how the many guys who actually have pulled a girl out to 'normal life' worked it out.[/QUOTE]Freedom. I don't know why some guys think that money can buy them love or loyalty or a person. Money is not everyhting and you can only use it to rent some pussy. Put yourself in their shoes.

As a matter of fact, when I was in the Navy I heard a story from a guy that had spent time in Japan. They used to go to the discos and meet chicks there. This one guy met a chick whose father was so rich that her and her brother had the same model Ferrari, but different colors. The girl wanted to marry the sailor but the father said he could do it only on condition that he could not go back to the States. The guy would be taken care of for the rest of his life though. He did not take the deal. Being able to go back home and do other shit he wanted, was worth more than the money dangling in front of his face. Would you have taken the deal? I know I sure as hell would not.

This is why you can use your money to get a chick, but you can't use it to keep her. No need to lead with money when you want to be serious about a chick. As we used to say in Brazil, if you want to know how someone really feels about you then show up without money. The shit is simple. You don't show up offering them material shit. You show up offering them yourself.

Nobody is suprised when some athlete or singer's wife or girlfriend that you know he would not gotten if he was not who he was leaves him. It is obvious she was there for the money, but she could only keep up that charade for so long before things beside money became more important.

Yeah is clear that people are reluctant giving up their freedom. I wouldn't beyond what I feel like giving.

However the girls have with serious face told she want to stay and be BF-GF, and surely they should know what it means. I never mentioned about anything like your Jap case, actually did not set any limits as wanted to see how they behave (and is against my life principles as well, people should be let be free to do what they want). So it kind of appears that they somewhere inside has a pocket that thinks they would like to live in GF-BF setting, yet they can't as the external factors pull them back.

Maybe it is all a show, without actual serious intent, to just live in different setting for some time and pocket the money in different business model. Once get bored just go back.

Kind of the mirror of guys who want to stay with a girl for extended time as GF-BF and try to behave like they become monogamous, yet in their heart they know it is only a matter of time they get bored to fuck the same girl and kick her out (or fuck others in parallel). Consequently, likelihood of a monger and a pro settling in a long term relationship is really low.

The non-pro was a bit of a surprise as all appeared good, however the pull of eating somtam and drink beer with friends almost every day is just so strong component of perceived freedom that can not be compromised.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2547062]Freedom. I don't know why some guys think that money can buy them love or loyalty or a person. Money is not everyhting and you can only use it to rent some pussy. Put yourself in their shoes.

As a matter of fact, when I was in the Navy I heard a story from a guy that had spent time in Japan. They used to go to the discos and meet chicks there. This one guy met a chick whose father was so rich that her and her brother had the same model Ferrari, but different colors. The girl wanted to marry the sailor but the father said he could do it only on condition that he could not go back to the States. The guy would be taken care of for the rest of his life though. He did not take the deal. Being able to go back home and do other shit he wanted, was worth more than the money dangling in front of his face. Would you have taken the deal? I know I sure as hell would not.

This is why you can use your money to get a chick, but you can't use it to keep her. No need to lead with money when you want to be serious about a chick. As we used to say in Brazil, if you want to know how someone really feels about you then show up without money. The shit is simple. You don't show up offering them material shit. You show up offering them yourself.

Nobody is suprised when some athlete or singer's wife or girlfriend that you know he would not gotten if he was not who he was leaves him. It is obvious she was there for the money, but she could only keep up that charade for so long before things beside money became more important.[/QUOTE]

"This is why you can use your money to get a chick, but you can't use it to keep her. No need to lead with money when you want to be serious about a chick. As we used to say in Brazil, if you want to know how someone really feels about you then show up without money. The shit is simple. You don't show up offering them material shit. You show up offering them yourself."

This can't buy me love. But damn sure can buy lots of fucking!

What worries me is why a guy would even offer a girl to be a Concubine in the first place.

They aren't Dogs or Cats or Rabbits even.

delete please. posted in wrong forum.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2546823]Can you link something? Thanks.[/QUOTE]People want my example of what a Smoking hot Thai barfine looks like.

Check out this Koreans guys catch, maybe Soi 6. In Pattaya though.

Pattaya local Chalao game to get beauty to work early.

On the tube of you.

I'd say 9 out of ten of us would say she is 3,000 baht quality.

[QUOTE=Knobrm;2547075]Yeah is clear that people are reluctant giving up their freedom. I wouldn't beyond what I feel like giving.

However the girls have with serious face told she want to stay and be BF-GF, and surely they should know what it means. I never mentioned about anything like your Jap case, actually did not set any limits as wanted to see how they behave (and is against my life principles as well, people should be let be free to do what they want). So it kind of appears that they somewhere inside has a pocket that thinks they would like to live in GF-BF setting, yet they can't as the external factors pull them back.

Maybe it is all a show, without actual serious intent, to just live in different setting for some time and pocket the money in different business model. Once get bored just go back.

Kind of the mirror of guys who want to stay with a girl for extended time as GF-BF and try to behave like they become monogamous, yet in their heart they know it is only a matter of time they get bored to fuck the same girl and kick her out (or fuck others in parallel). Consequently, likelihood of a monger and a pro settling in a long term relationship is really low.

The non-pro was a bit of a surprise as all appeared good, however the pull of eating somtam and drink beer with friends almost every day is just so strong component of perceived freedom that can not be compromised.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that is how it happens in every case I am personally familiar with; it's the girl lobbying hard to be supported with regular income to help dig her and her family out of a mess. Funny to read the scenario imagined by some here that old geezers are targeting unsuspecting young party girls and begging them to stay home to blow them every night in a sad failed attempt to buy their love and loyalty. Lol. Ok. Whatever. Never started that way with anyone I know.

Now, in my case the 2-3 times I have reluctantly and with full knowledge that it ain't gonna last very long agreed to give it a go was when the girl lobbying hard for me to please see and repeat with her enough times to help her pay that huge family debt and so she doesn't have to work in the bar I did a simple business calculation to give her a bit less per week than I would spend if I were to see her under the previous bar conditions three times each week. And to pay her weekly at the end of the work week.

Naturally, I have only tried this the rare few times over the years that I met a hooker I liked, liked being with, liked fucking and getting sucked by so much I could actually imagine I would enjoy having her stay over as often as 3 times per week for a while.

Paying her a "salary" (at the end of each week) equal to less than I would need to lay out for a barfine (if any) and the going rate to her for a LT times 3 meant IF I only had her stay over for fucking and sucking three times per week I am ahead on the money and IF I took a notion to have her stay over more often than that overall it becomes an even better deal for me.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2547208]Yeah, that is how it happens in every case I am personally familiar with; it's the girl lobbying hard to be supported with regular income to help dig her and her family out of a mess. Funny to read the scenario imagined by some here that old geezers are targeting unsuspecting party girls and begging them to stay home to blow them every night in a failed attempt to buy their love and loyalty. LOL. Never happened that way with anyone I know.

Now, in my case the 2-3 times I have reluctantly and with full knowledge it ain't going to last very long agreed to give it a go was when the girl lobbying hard for me to please see her enough times to help her pay that huge family debt I did a simple business calculation to give her a bit less per week as if I were to see her under the previous bar conditions three times each week. And to pay her weekly at the end of the work week.

Naturally, I have only tried this the rare few times over the years that I met a hooker I liked, liked being with, liked fucking and getting sucked by so much I could actually imagine I would enjoy having her stay over as often as 3 times per week for a while.

Paying her a "salary" (at the end of each week) equal to less than I would need to lay out for a barfine (if any) and the going rate to her for a LT times 3 meant IF I only had her stay over for fucking and sucking three times per week I am ahead on the money and IF I took a notion to have her stay over more than that in a week it becomes an even better deal for me.[/QUOTE]Exactly.

If you are paying her weekly or monthly, and you calculate cost per fuck for that time period, and then compare to if you just pulled her from her bar for that period of time, see how that works pu.

Many ladies, however, miss working in the bar, and get antsy hanging out with you. My long term barfine loves to go to bars where ladies she knows work, and get them drunk and naked. That's a compromise between us that seems to keep her happy.

Another bargirl I know lives with a Thai boyfriend and has convinced him that she does "drinks only" with customers. But she will go ST with customers and thinks nothing of it. What her boyfriend doesn't know won't hurt him. And sex with customers doesn't count anyway, and doesn't help if she is horny. If a bargirl is horny, she can always go to molarm, and fuck a Thai man in the bathroom, a 3 minute pump and dump, for free.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2547208]Yeah, that is how it happens in every case I am personally familiar with; it's the girl lobbying hard to be supported with regular income to help dig her and her family out of a mess. Funny to read the scenario imagined by some here that old geezers are targeting unsuspecting young party girls and begging them to stay home to blow them every night in a sad failed attempt to buy their love and loyalty. Lol. Ok. Whatever. Never started that way with anyone I know.

Now, in my case the 2-3 times I have reluctantly and with full knowledge that it ain't gonna last very long agreed to give it a go was when the girl lobbying hard for me to please see and repeat with her enough times to help her pay that huge family debt and so she doesn't have to work in the bar I did a simple business calculation to give her a bit less per week than I would spend if I were to see her under the previous bar conditions three times each week. And to pay her weekly at the end of the work week.

Naturally, I have only tried this the rare few times over the years that I met a hooker I liked, liked being with, liked fucking and getting sucked by so much I could actually imagine I would enjoy having her stay over as often as 3 times per week for a while.

Paying her a "salary" (at the end of each week) equal to less than I would need to lay out for a barfine (if any) and the going rate to her for a LT times 3 meant IF I only had her stay over for fucking and sucking three times per week I am ahead on the money and IF I took a notion to have her stay over more often than that overall it becomes an even better deal for me.[/QUOTE]How long does it have to last before you would call it a success? 2 years, 5 years, 10 years or when you decided to end it instead of the girl ending it? Depending on your answer maybe I can give you your first example of it happening.

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2547178]People want my example of what a Smoking hot Thai barfine looks like.

Check out this Koreans guys catch, maybe Soi 6. In Pattaya though.

Pattaya local Chalao game to get beauty to work early.

On the tube of you.

I'd say 9 out of ten of us would say she is 3,000 baht quality.[/QUOTE]Again. No link!

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2547219]How long does it have to last before you would call it a success? 2 years, 5 years, 10 years or when you decided to end it instead of the girl ending it? Depending on your answer maybe I can give you your first example of it happening.[/QUOTE]The girl usually has a stated goal, true or not; paying off an outstanding debt, building a house for mom in her province, setting up the kid in school, getting dad the surgery and out of the hospital, etc. So for the girl success is supposedly when that gets taken care of.

For me success would be as long as she is still earning it fair and square by the week without hassle and is providing Money For Value, offsetting money I would spend on other girls who likely would not hit all bases on what I want as surely and happily as this lucky girl does. Ha. I am capable of years long relationships with the right girls in the real world and have repeated under non weekly "salary" arrangements with favorites in the P4P world for as long as 2+ years.

However, the 3 or so times I tried the weekly support bit with hard lobbying bargirls it did not last more than a couple of weeks before they were too busy cycling back to the bar to meet me tonight, tomorrow or the day after that. The writing is pretty much on the wall by then that her guaranteed weekly "salary" paycheck envelope is going to be empty at the end of this week and the ones after that.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2547236]The girl usually has a stated goal, true or not; paying off an outstanding debt, building a house for mom in her province, setting up the kid in school, getting dad the surgery and out of the hospital, etc. So for the girl success is supposedly when that gets taken care of.

For me success would be as long as she is still earning it fair and square by the week without hassle and is providing Money For Value, offsetting money I would spend on other girls who likely would not hit all bases on what I want as surely and happily as this lucky girl does. Ha. I am capable of years long relationships with the right girls in the real world and have repeated under non weekly "salary" arrangements with favorites in the P4P world for as long as 2+ years.

However, the 3 or so times I tried the weekly support bit with hard lobbying bargirls it did not last more than a couple of weeks before they were too busy cycling back to the bar to meet me tonight, tomorrow or the day after that. The writing is pretty much on the wall by then that her guaranteed weekly "salary" paycheck envelope is going to be empty at the end of this week and the ones after that.[/QUOTE]Ok now I think I understand for you it's still strictly a pay for play relationship with you actually getting more bang for your buck and nothing more. As long as you're still getting the same exact level of sexual service as you were before you're happy and it's a success. It never develops into anymore of a friendship where the amount of sex is not as important as long as the passionate service is the same?

The reason I asked is because even though several posters have shared that their experiences with bar girls are the same as yours I would contend that each one was different because each one was wanting something a little different than you were wanting. Some were trying to make it more of a relationship and were concerned about what the girl was doing when she wasn't with them, trying to control them like a girlfriend instead of a business arrangement.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2547223]Again. No link![/QUOTE]Go to tube of you. Use search function. I gave title of his video.

Use the sentence with word Chalao in function.

You will not be disappointed. That girl gets prettier every time I look.