FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=Turgid;3019265]I suspect that if you are American or Asian girls will try to get you to pay more for BBBJ, DATY or DFK. I suspect Europeans have a better chance for all inclusive 100/30. Any Americans on this board get full sex with BBBJ, DATY and DFK for 100/30?[/QUOTE]I am neither an American nor an Asian. Some girls still try to upsell me. Let's be real: There is a lot more upselling now than 5- 10 years ago. I also know Americans and Asians that get normal going rates (and excellent service) from the girls. So, just relax. All you need is a bit of awareness and determination.

The girls are not stupid. When they hear your American accent, they will have dollar signs in their eyes hoping for a big tip and/or that you accept a higher rate. (Needless to say the answer to that is to always discuss prices and services with the girls before you commit. Educate yourself and learn the going rates before you enter a club. Talk with several girls before you commit. You should know this.).

The girls are not stupid. If they regognize a face (it can be monthly visits or even less) and know that he is decent and only beds girls known to be fair with their quotes/provide excellent services, more girls will try to attract you with normal prices/top service hoping to get you as a regular client.

Gents have different modus operandis. Some gents only come every 5 or 10 years. None will regognize them. They will bear the risk of being regarded as freshmen and attract upsellers and rip off artists. Others will, say, come once every year, but be visiting DAILY for a few weeks. While they may (or may not) struggle to get good sessions the first 1- 2 days, they quickly learn the ropes and find excellent session partners (repeat material) and attract new decent performers.

I believe Mr T belongs in the latter group.

Such killing desire and GFE atmosphere, when needing to negotiate for services, price, then more kind of arabic market. I can t do this, when would kill my desire, too much paid sex atmosphere. I much prefer discovery and surprise, playing my game to make girl willing to give me back, so much more enjoyable than behaving beggar. I play tramp but not beggar. Chinese I know, visiting much more often than me, needing to negotiate, telling me: but I can t get same than you, when I m Asian, even he lives in Germany and speak German, but my advices help him to get more. But we are so different, and we get from what we are, when FKKs are not kolkhoze, not equality for all of us.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3019350]I am neither an American nor an Asian. Some girls still try to upsell me. Let's be real: There is a lot more upselling now than 5- 10 years ago. I also know Americans and Asians that get normal going rates (and excellent service) from the girls. So, just relax. All you need is a bit of awareness and determination.

The girls are not stupid. When they hear your American accent, they will have dollar signs in their eyes hoping for a big tip and/or that you accept a higher rate. (Needless to say the answer to that is to always discuss prices and services with the girls before you commit. Educate yourself and learn the going rates before you enter a club. Talk with several girls before you commit. You should know this.).

The girls are not stupid. If they regognize a face (it can be monthly visits or even less) and know that he is decent and only beds girls known to be fair with their quotes/provide excellent services, more girls will try to attract you with normal prices/top service hoping to get you as a regular client.

Gents have different modus operandis. Some gents only come every 5 or 10 years. None will regognize them. They will bear the risk of being regarded as freshmen and attract upsellers and rip off artists. Others will, say, come once every year, but be visiting DAILY for a few weeks. While they may (or may not) struggle to get good sessions the first 1- 2 days, they quickly learn the ropes and find excellent session partners (repeat material) and attract new decent performers..[/QUOTE]Yes, many girls ask now extra for FK, BBBJ is still quite standard, but very good point is most of best girls don t upsell, so it s good for me. I let upselling girls who are for most not among prettiest for other guys.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3019350]......Gents have different modus operandis. Some gents only come every 5 or 10 years. None will regognize them. They will bear the risk of being regarded as freshmen and attract upsellers and rip off artists. Others will, say, come once every year, but be visiting DAILY for a few weeks. While they may (or may not) struggle to get good sessions the first 1- 2 days, they quickly learn the ropes and find excellent session partners (repeat material) and attract new decent performers.

I believe Mr T belongs in the latter group.[/QUOTE]My last visit to FKKs was in 2020 where my 3 month visit was cut short to 2 months by covid. I know FKKs have moved on from 50/30 for everything. However, I think FKKs have the hottest girls in world P4P today and they're always worth a visit. However, service has always been iffy and with higher prices and being unable to disguise my nationality shifting my frequent and long visits over to the second best, Brazil, where superb service is the norm, seems an attractive option.

Can you get BJ in the lounge or the garden area in Public at Sharks?

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3019426]Can you get BJ in the lounge or the garden area in Public at Sharks?[/QUOTE]On mezzanine with 75 yo silicon Sylvana. It. For public sex, go to Globe. Ch.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3019424]My last visit to FKKs was in 2020 where my 3 month visit was cut short to 2 months by covid. I know FKKs have moved on from 50/30 for everything. However, I think FKKs have the hottest girls in world P4P today and they're always worth a visit. However, service has always been iffy and with higher prices and being unable to disguise my nationality shifting my frequent and long visits over to the second best, Brazil, where superb service is the norm, seems an attractive option.[/QUOTE]2020 was only till mid March. On Summer 2021 reopening, could have 100/60 GFE rooms, when not many tourists, even locals paid 100/30 and 150/60 under covid in apartments. Still really pretties and Sharks is not bad on this year, far higher than Globe, even superb Alex moved to Wellcum, I wish to make her cum and fuck her there for 80. But average level for sex and pussies potential really fell, with many small pussies and many asking extra for baby kiss. But if You are able to find good ones and if you don t behave like a tourist, can still find quality, I would say around 10% of girls, for me, when exceptional German disappeared, one at moment, but I prefer one but on my standard. My advice: don't say you are American, or you will be fucked like a tourist, when many girls have slow business, when they made many regulars, meaning weekly, running away, or visiting but eating, drinking, and only looking asses, when girls ask too expensive. I often see many girls making no room, even on Saturday, girls fault of course, when they ask too expensive compare to their value.

2 new Germans trying Sharks, with honest price. Often, new girls try Sharks. Oase is difficult for new girls, when most often slow business, when long time girls also, same than at Sharks, made very regulars running away, and tourists go more at Sharks than Oase. Girls with slow business love to fuck tourists.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3019473]2020 was only till mid March. On Summer 2021 reopening, could have 100/60 GFE rooms, when not many tourists, even locals paid 100/30 and 150/60 under covid in apartments. Still really pretties and Sharks is not bad on this year, far higher than Globe, even superb Alex moved to Wellcum, I wish to make her cum and fuck her there for 80. But average level for sex and pussies potential really fell, with many small pussies and many asking extra for baby kiss. But if You are able to find good ones and if you don t behave like a tourist, can still find quality, I would say around 10% of girls, for me, when exceptional German disappeared, one at moment, but I prefer one but on my standard. My advice: don't say you are American, or you will be fucked like a tourist, when many girls have slow business, when they made many regulars, meaning weekly, running away, or visiting but eating, drinking, and only looking asses, when girls ask too expensive. I often see many girls making no room, even on Saturday, girls fault of course, when they ask too expensive compare to their value.[/QUOTE]I won't have a choice in terms of being able to hide my 'tourist' look as I'm an English speaking (American sounding) Asian. But I'm experienced internationally so I'll go in there saying I'll pay 100/30 and if they balk, I walk. I figure that even during daytime hours that I'm going to be there I'll find somebody to do a session with.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3019663]I won't have a choice in terms of being able to hide my 'tourist' look as I'm an English speaking (American sounding) Asian. But I'm experienced internationally so I'll go in there saying I'll pay 100/30 and if they balk, I walk. I figure that even during daytime hours that I'm going to be there I'll find somebody to do a session with.[/QUOTE]For sure, you can't hide to be Asian, so you will see many girls coming to You, when only my regular come to me. My advice is better to say you come from Canada, when You may hear China, how girls call Asians. Tuesday daytime should be slow business, so easier to negotiate, what I hate when killing GFE atmosphere. FKKs girls didn't learn English in UCLA. Blond Rachel, black long hair skinny lovely Lori, both staying on entry side, work good for 100 . Same for blond Chantel on the way to sauna at the end of lounge.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3019265]I suspect that if you are American or Asian girls will try to get you to pay more for BBBJ, DATY or DFK. I suspect Europeans have a better chance for all inclusive 100/30. Any Americans on this board get full sex with BBBJ, DATY and DFK for 100/30?[/QUOTE]It's possible with some regular girls but most new girls will just offer BBBJ, DATY, and lip kissing for 100/30. It really depends on the chemistry you have with the girl.

[QUOTE=ParSeeker;3019690]It's possible with some regular girls but most new girls will just offer BBBJ, DATY, and lip kissing for 100/30. It really depends on the chemistry you have with the girl.[/QUOTE]If I can get CFS, BBBJ, DATY and lip kissing with hot stunners for 100/30 I'll be happy. I am willing to forego DFK if that's the penalty for being American. I'd be totally unable to hide my origin from any sensible girl.

[QUOTE=ParSeeker;3019690]It's possible with some regular girls but most new girls will just offer BBBJ, DATY, and lip kissing for 100/30. It really depends on the chemistry you have with the girl.[/QUOTE]Fortunately for me, I find prettiest who offer me real FK for a french bad guy and fresh GFE, trusting me from my behavior, when I don t visit kinder garden, but I need woman types.

Does anyone know if Alex is back? She wasn't in-house last weekend.

[QUOTE=FakeIt;3019810]Does anyone know if Alex is back? She wasn't in-house last weekend.[/QUOTE]She spends her Summer at beautiful Wellcum for 80, good for a tramp like me.