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[QUOTE=Smoothy;1718494] If I compare Bali to the south of Thailand, I'd say the beaches in south Thailand are nicer, but the girls in Bali are better. [/QUOTE]Balinese girls are better in what way? When I went to Bali, just once, girls looked really old already at the age of 25. 18 year olds looked okay Sometimes. They don't seem to age well. Maybe too much sun. Javanese are much better looking IMHO.
Last time I was Thailand, I had an experience where most of the girls were using a lube or gel, which made the whole experience go down as there was no tightness. I had this experience at Honeys Pattaya, then even in Baccarra in Soi Cowboy. Is it that they use it with everyone all the time, Is there anyway to stop them from doing that!
Yes, it's the bar the FL's go to let their hair down.
I generally paid anywhere between 1 k bhat to 2 k bh depending on the time of night and whether it was short or LT. 2 k Bhat is a fair price for all night. Congrats! Sounds like you found WIR.
I am in KL now and difficult to find comparable value or a similar venue.
[QUOTE=RobertLong;1718521]That's the name I couldn't remember Bangkok Beat. Yes there were some really great looking ladies in there and from what I could see they were not getting hit on by the guys. A few were but most were listening to the music.
My guess about my friend is that she like any single woman needs to get out and enjoy her life and find a man for the evening. I was lucky and we shared a good time together. I gave her 2000 bt when she left and she just smiled. Part timer or just a lady with an occasional itch. But we will continue our friendship in July.
RL.[/QUOTE]
I had read somewhere that post-ops have to use lubes or gels as they don't get the natural wetness, and with your feedback, now I would have to be really careful in selection. I would prefer having the natural ease rather than a forced one. .
[QUOTE=LoverboyJerico;1718629]Last time I was Thailand, I had an experience where most of the girls were using a lube or gel, which made the whole experience go down as there was no tightness. I had this experience at Honeys pattaya, then even in Baccarra in Soi Cowboy. Is it that they use it with everyone all the time, Is there anyway to stop them from doing that!![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Franciscass;1718047]Gerry,
My two cents on your query regarding the chase in Bangkok using the 3 A'S.
Availability.
A) Is she married or in a relationship and doesn't fool around and to you naysayers, yes, it's possible then you're screwed.
B) Same status but fools around or is single, its game on.
Attraction.
A) She won't let you near her for a million Baht, still possible but difficult and going to be expensive.
B) Man of her dreams cannot wait to fuck your brains out, that's usually where I wake up.
C) Most likely it's if the price is right why not, now it's just a matter of how much.
Approach..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply Franciscass. I suppose in truth the chase in Bangkok is no different than anywhere else with the proviso that money plays a bigger role here. I'm over 50 and under no illusion that my attractiveness to a good looking young lady comes under the heading of sugar daddy but where that lady has her choice of sugar daddies variables such as behavior, style and generosity can make a difference. I am in touch with a sense that things are heading in the right direction but I will only know for sure on my return in July.
I'm venturing out to BKK soon and was wondering if there are places where you can find non-Thai girls (especially CIS). I've been to Nana Plaza a couple of years ago on my first ever visit and found a Thai bar girl who I then saw every day. However, I'd like a bit of variety this time around so was interested in finding CIS girls in BKK.
[QUOTE=Airport;1718774]I'm venturing out to BKK soon and was wondering if there are places where you can find non-Thai girls (especially CIS). I've been to Nana Plaza a couple of years ago on my first ever visit and found a Thai bar girl who I then saw every day. However, I'd like a bit of variety this time around so was interested in finding CIS girls in BKK.[/QUOTE]CIS is an acronym or abbreviation that I wasn't familiar with so I did a Google search and the top search results for CIS refer to:
CIS = Cisgender and cissexual (often abbreviated to simply CIS) describe related types of gender identity where individuals' experiences of their own gender match the sex they were assigned at birth.
Secondarily on the search result is:
Commonwealth of Independent States (former republics of the USSR).
If you're referring to the Commonwealth of Independent States (former republics of the USSR), it's been asked and answered to the point of ad nauseam on this forum. In a nutshell, check out Grace Hotel or one of the many nightclubs like Climax and Spasso.
If you're looking for a non-Thai CIS (cisgender) girl, that's a subject that I have no knowledge and the moderator might not allow.
[QUOTE=GerryGa;1718700]Thanks for the reply Franciscass. I suppose in truth the chase in Bangkok is no different than anywhere else with the proviso that money plays a bigger role here. I'm over 50 and under no illusion that my attractiveness to a good looking young lady comes under the heading of sugar daddy but where that lady has her choice of sugar daddies variables such as behavior, style and generosity can make a difference. I am in touch with a sense that things are heading in the right direction but I will only know for sure on my return in July.[/QUOTE]Gerry,
There is I believe some difference. The number of women who make their living either directly or on the fringes of P4P is far larger in Thailand than most other countries. They range from uneducated farm girls to sophisticated urbanites but with few exceptions they have the same objective, financial security for themselves and their family and foreigners are seen as their best bet. Issues such as love and age of sponsor (within reason) are relatively unimportant. What you potentially represent is what's important. Who will show interest in you depends on a number of variables, their age, experience, ambitions, how much money they are currently making and most importantly what you represent financially short term and long term. Despite all this Gerry there are some amazingly good hearted beautiful women in the Land Of Smiles that makes taking a chance both irresistible and worthwhile. I hope you have found one, just be careful.
[QUOTE=Airport;1718774]I'm venturing out to BKK soon and was wondering if there are places where you can find non-Thai girls (especially CIS). I've been to Nana Plaza a couple of years ago on my first ever visit and found a Thai bar girl who I then saw every day. However, I'd like a bit of variety this time around so was interested in finding CIS girls in BKK.[/QUOTE]If you can't be bothered spelling out weird acronyms or non-internationally known jargon, I don't know why anyone could be bothered to answer the question. The forum has a list of standard accepted abbreviations and acronyms.
[QUOTE=LoverboyJerico;1718629]Last time I was Thailand, I had an experience where most of the girls were using a lube or gel, which made the whole experience go down as there was no tightness. I had this experience at Honeys pattaya, then even in Baccarra in Soi Cowboy. Is it that they use it with everyone all the time, Is there anyway to stop them from doing that!![/QUOTE]Essentially any working girl requiring condoms, will also need Gel. Natural wetness doesn't last long and she doesn't get turned on by every customer. Latex of condoms requires lube. That is normal. I have my own non-sticky lube.
Maybe could try a polyurethane condom. It might not need as much lube to prevent too much friction, although it sounds like you want friction where the girl doesn't want friction.
Dude, in my opinion there is no point in using lubes in sex as it screws up the natural sensations. Lubes are generally used when you are doing anal where it is too tight or when you are fucking a pussy too tight as in a virgin!! But apart from that, I have had tons and tons of girls here in India and few everywhere in the world. No one needs a lube unless she is too tight! And moreover with these girls the problem was that they were using lube on such pussied where I felt am I even in her pussy? I was literally tired banging continuously in all positions for over half hour after which I came!! So I need to know, places or ways where girls won't use lube!
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1719029]Essentially any working girl requiring condoms, will also need Gel. Natural wetness doesn't last long and she doesn't get turned on by every customer. Latex of condoms requires lube. That is normal. I have my own non-sticky lube.
Maybe could try a polyurethane condom. It might not need as much lube to prevent too much friction, although it sounds like you want friction where the girl doesn't want friction.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LoverboyJerico;1719048]Dude, *snip* I have had tons and tons of girls here in india and few everywhere in the world. *snip* So I need to know, places or ways where girls won't use lube!![/QUOTE]Well, since you asked so nicely. I don't think Thailand will be the place for you. As Syzygies pointed out (and I agree, based on my experience), almost any working girl requiring condoms, will also need Gel. Natural wetness doesn't last long. TTG.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1719029]Essentially any working girl requiring condoms, will also need Gel. Natural wetness doesn't last long and she doesn't get turned on by every customer. Latex of condoms requires lube. That is normal. I have my own non-sticky lube.
Maybe could try a polyurethane condom. It might not need as much lube to prevent too much friction, although it sounds like you want friction where the girl doesn't want friction.[/QUOTE]Hate to disagree with you S but in my experience the only time a girl needs lube is if she is not aroused. A bare skinned dick or a covered dick makes no difference, it's down to whether the juices are flowing or not. An oversize member or anal may require lube for entry but once inside if the girl is aroused no need. . If the punter is hurried or not adept at foreplay or giving pleasure then yes she needs to take ole KY out. On my recent visit only one provider needed it, and yes I am aware that some girls lube up big time in advance but you know that as soon as you go inside.
With the sudden rash of dude's bragging about their sexual prowess with P4 P girls? Lube? Come on guys; it's their job. Many of them have their nether regions visited by multiple peckers a day. Do you really think they are getting that excited every time? The good ones are great actresses. If she thinks you will enjoy seeing her "turned on" because of your skills then that is what she'll give you. Please don't delude yourselves. And hey, some gals lubricate well and some don't. And, sometimes they have a bad day at the "office. " But really guys, you are paying for a service. She isn't paying you last time I checked.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;1719012]Gerry,
There is I believe some difference. The number of women who make their living either directly or on the fringes of P4P is far larger in Thailand than most other countries. They range from uneducated farm girls to sophisticated urbanites but with few exceptions they have the same objective, financial security for themselves and their family and foreigners are seen as their best bet. Issues such as love and age of sponsor (within reason) are relatively unimportant. What you potentially represent is what's important. Who will show interest in you depends on a number of variables, their age, experience, ambitions, how much money they are currently making and most importantly what you represent financially short term and long term. Despite all this Gerry there are some amazingly good hearted beautiful women in the Land Of Smiles that makes taking a chance both irresistible and worthwhile. I hope you have found one, just be careful.[/QUOTE]My thanks Franciscass for your advice on exercising caution but you may be jumping the gun here. I hardly know the girl and really all I want is some more of her wonderful massages and if possible a night between the sheets. I value my freedom too much after leaving a 30 year marriage to give it up again, but again thanks appreciated.