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A murder of another FKK-girl inside a club, the victim's head was decapitated by a sick / psycho guest.
[/QUOTE]You fell for a fairytale.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1653361]You fell for a fairytale.

HB.[/QUOTE]Well I didn't fell for it, therefore I'm asking for your help.

The girl was shocked by the incident and refused to tell which club it happened in, in fear of the management.

She might be a good actress?

She doesn't have to be a good actress. Maybe she heard from other girls. Girls are also insisting that a girl died in one of the rooms at Paradise Stuttgart and refuse to go to that room.

HB.

Is there any truth in a girl dying recently at paradise or am I losing the plot here??I for one would be extremely sad and furious that such a thing could happen. On a happier unrelated matter I've told some of my academic buddies here about the FKK scene but because they can't visualise it are showing little interest in visiting germany right now. When I sit in a bar with them I hear them give FKK 5's a 10 and they can't believe I'm not getting as excited about what to me are very normal dull girls. Do any of you find this blurring of FKK fantasy worlds with real world girls becoming more and more seperated as I do. Unless a girl is 8-9/10 I'm just not even bothered to get up LOL.

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1653511]Is there any truth in a girl dying recently at paradise or am I losing the plot here??I for one would be extremely sad and furious that such a thing could happen. On a happier unrelated matter I've told some of my academic buddies here about the FKK scene but because they can't visualise it are showing little interest in visiting germany right now. When I sit in a bar with them I hear them give FKK 5's a 10 and they can't believe I'm not getting as excited about what to me are very normal dull girls. Do any of you find this blurring of FKK fantasy worlds with real world girls becoming more and more seperated as I do. Unless a girl is 8-9/10 I'm just not even bothered to get up LOL.[/QUOTE]You have a problem, man, You are too focus on the visual, (Optificken) I do fuck the beautiful FKK girls, but in normal life I do flirt and fuck less beautiful girls.

I just love girls and it's not only about the visual appearance.

No girl died at Paradise.

HB.

Seriously, FKK is owned by rather grey area characters and also some FKK is reported to be run by gang of bikers. So who would commit such a crime like murder in clubs that are owned by wise guys.

All FKK is more or less safe and once in awhile girls tell me freaky stories but it does not exceed to the level of murder.

However, there are clients that fly in more than 10 hours to see certain girls at FKK EVERY month! And this girl tell me each time he comes he book her for whole day like 8 hours. Most of time he talks to her and only fuck once or twice and that is freaking me out. I mean fly ten hours to see her and book her whole day every day during his visit and apparently all he talks about is how he love her and marry her once she quit her job at FKK. This freaks her out as it is bit obsessive.

So there are freaks but not psycko at FKK as far as I know.

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1653511] unrelated matter I've told some of my academic buddies here about the FKK scene but because they can't visualise it are showing little interest in visiting germany right now. When I sit in a bar with them I hear them give FKK 5's a 10 and they can't believe I'm not getting as excited about what to me are very normal dull girls. [/QUOTE]How many here who've told their buddies about their travels haven't had to have this type of conversation? Just last night my one buddy brought about a twisted alternative to my travels by suggesting I find a girl and put her up in an apartment and request service from her as payment instead of spending my money on girls 'the normal way'. I know where he's going, just not sure he thought it all the way thru as a valid argument to cut out this hobby and replace it with one girl who wouldn't be a girlfriend but a bootycall that you'd make every other day (his schedule). Financially, I think that would be much more expensive than my spending on the hobby. Your not going to get those 3 x's a week booty calls by putting her up in a crappy place, it would have to be something in the one thousand dollar per month range. Would one spend twelve grand on one girl or spread it around to a variety of women?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1653735]Your not going to get those 3 x's a week booty calls by putting her up in a crappy place, it would have to be something in the one thousand dollar per month range.[/QUOTE]The thousand dollar per month range wouldn't cut it in the nicest parts of the biggest American cities. That's not enough money. Not even close. But not only that, your buddy totally isn't getting it. These women value cash money versus in-kind goods and services. They don't want you to put them up in some place. At least not without putting some cold, hard cash in their hands as well! These women want cash money first and foremost to do with as they please. That could be to pay for a nice apartment or house. Or, it could be so that they can snort it up their nose or give it to their "man". Of course your buddy hasn't thought it through. His first wrong assumption being that they want to be "put up" versus "paid up"! He's got it seared into his brain that spending money on women "the normal way" is the only cost-effective and "correct" way to go. We mongers know that's not true. Using his method you're paying a lot more, you're getting a lot less on many counts (variety, sheer volume, and so on), and the arrangement will ultimately fail due to the nature of human emotions. I mean, is it a relationship you want or what? If so, then just plain start living together and maybe get married. Bottom line is your buddy is ignorant to the ways of what motivates tutes and mongers and just doesn't get it.

Sometimes when in the streets of my city, something remind me the FKK's. When I am trying to arrange an escort who is just 7 and have to wait 10 other guys that will reserve her. And pay more than 200 Euro for a terrible service. I miss the FKKland. As I am not as unlucky as Mr. Ho so I can just fly 3 hours and I am there and there are 5 flights every day from Istanbul to Frankfurt. But not always your schedule, your financial situation being appropiate so I just have to relieve myself. I come to this website and read posts. Sometimes at work I take the risk and go to the website of Sharks or Artemis. (Note: You can use browser's stealth mode for this. Moreover you shoudl because before I do this when someone come and write www to my browser it was being auto completed [URL]www.internationalsexguide.com.anyway[/URL] I have solved it now) So I mean a song a flavor that you sense in there especially the one in locker's room or odour of a shampoo that you use there reminds you that placess. You were happy there. Your desires were under warranty of being satisfied. I am just being the impulsive boy there. I eat whenever and whatever I want. I drink also. And my car. On the autobahn on the way back to my hotel sun is born and beneath the fog of Germany you see it. So a nice song plays in the radio. And you feel it is worth living. Nasty words of the girls in FKK is in your ear. And their perfume is still on your body. Last time on my last day in Frankfurt. Maybe I wrote here before but just needed to repeat. I have seen a strip club which has windows that are allowing that you see inside. Girls are dancing in front of these windows. And I stopped the car and wattched them and sun was rising and fog was on the river. I had arrived my hotel and put my alarm not to cathc flight. And you go back to your country and think life is not fair. And I don't know. I miss FKK land.

Just my feelings.

Regards.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1653829]Sometimes when in the streets of my city, something remind me the FKK's. When I am trying to arrange an escort who is just 7 and have to wait 10 other guys that will reserve her. And pay more than 200 Euro for a terrible service. I miss the FKKland. As I am not as unlucky as Mr. Ho so I can just fly 3 hours and I am there and there are 5 flights every day from Istanbul to Frankfurt. But not always your schedule, your financial situation being appropiate so I just have to relieve myself. I come to this website and read posts. Sometimes at work I take the risk and go to the website of Sharks or Artemis. (Note: You can use browser's stealth mode for this. Moreover you shoudl because before I do this when someone come and write www to my browser it was being auto completed [URL]www.internationalsexguide.com.anyway[/URL] I have solved it now) So I mean a song a flavor that you sense in there especially the one in locker's room or odour of a shampoo that you use there reminds you that placess. You were happy there. Your desires were under warranty of being satisfied. I am just being the impulsive boy there. I eat whenever and whatever I want. I drink also. And my car. On the autobahn on the way back to my hotel sun is born and beneath the fog of Germany you see it. So a nice song plays in the radio. And you feel it is worth living. Nasty words of the girls in FKK is in your ear. And their perfume is still on your body. Last time on my last day in Frankfurt. Maybe I wrote here before but just needed to repeat. I have seen a strip club which has windows that are allowing that you see inside. Girls are dancing in front of these windows. And I stopped the car and wattched them and sun was rising and fog was on the river. I had arrived my hotel and put my alarm not to cathc flight. And you go back to your country and think life is not fair. And I don't know. I miss FKK land.

Just my feelings.

Regards.[/QUOTE]Hahaha, you trying to kill me? LOL.

I miss FKK too and I am attached to some of the girls and we even connected on facebook an I now their real name, life etc.

But man, take it this way, FKK girls for me 'some that I really got to know personally is like paid sex friends who come and go and I feel sentimental too, but it is better them than having normal girl who is beautiful and you lose them, that is real pain.

I feel you that you miss the not just FKK girls but the FKK the place itself. I mean my normally 10 or 12 days trip to FKK land is magical holiday where I do nothing but sex, eat and drink coffee in nice cafes and chilll because my whole stay is dedicated to going to FKK everyday you know, so for me it is like heaven days, so sure I miss every minutes of that heaven I provide for myself once or twice a year and I partly live for that days it is best time I can remember.

But man up buddy, you are just 3 hours away! Plus turkey has amazing food man! I went to your country 3 times and people, culture and food was amazing! Plus you are just 3 hours away, me 12 hours man but I always take sleeping pill so it like one hour flight for me.

Family vs fun is the big question. Do you get married and go down that financial path with kids, a mortgage, a wife who refuses to go back to work and putting the kids thru college? Or keep life simpler and enjoy all the things money can rent for an hour?

"You have a problem, man, You are too focus on the visual, (Optificken)" in fact the only thing I'm focused on are the optificken. The only reason I goto FKK clubs is to find girls that would be exceedingly difficult to get into bed quickly in the real world. To goto an FKK and look for average looking girls is not why I go. So it comes down to two choices-1) a stunning optificken girl for 1 hour with average service - vs 2) an average looking girl with exceptional service for one hour-you know what I'd pick? yep that's number 1 any day of the year LOL! We are all different in what we desire just my thoughts. merry xmas and seasonal greetings to all.....i am more likely to place more emphasis on the personality of a girl in the "real" world over looks but fkk's for me are just not about that. and a happy new year...

If I was a single guy living in one if the western EU countries, I would be flying to Germany for FKK visits fairly regularly, and of course if I lived in Germany itself, all the better that would be. Flying from North America or Asia is more painful, more expensive, and also need to take off several days, which means you have to use your vacation days at work. But if you lived in western EU, it is easier. Flights are an hour or two, so you can fly for the weekend and back, and if you book in advance, the low cost airlines cost less than 100 bucks for a round trip.

One guy I met in the summer, flew in from England in one of these cheap airlines, paying something like 30 pounds each way. He rented a car, probably not very expensive. He was spending his nights all the way to closing in the club, and would just sleep in the car for a few hours after close. It being summer helped. Basically, he maximized the in-the-club to outside-the-club expense.

Every time I go on one of these visits, I budget something like $3000 for my clubbing activities. On the recent visit, the weak Euro helped me. This is for 4 days of clubbing and does not include hotel room, transportation etc. But I found out that it is not all that easy to spend. Unless you take a whole bunch of extras, CIMs, two girls at the same time with lesbo shows, anals, etc, which I generally don't do, it takes time and energy to spend and I always come in quite a bit below by budget.

On the other hand, if you are a local, and visit clubs every week or even more than a week, you could probably end up spending more than $50000 a year, I reckon. Got to be expensive.

Btw, if you login to ISG at work, even with a private browser, would be quite risky. Companies track every single click these days. I don't know about other countries, but in the US, you could easily lose your job. Not worth it.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1654243]If I was a single guy living in one if the western EU countries, I would be flying to Germany for FKK visits fairly regularly, and of course if I lived in Germany itself, all the better that would be. Flying from North America or Asia is more painful, more expensive, and also need to take off several days, which means you have to use your vacation days at work. But if you lived in western EU, it is easier. Flights are an hour or two, so you can fly for the weekend and back, and if you book in advance, the low cost airlines cost less than 100 bucks for a round trip.

One guy I met in the summer, flew in from England in one of these cheap airlines, paying something like 30 pounds each way. He rented a car, probably not very expensive. He was spending his nights all the way to closing in the club, and would just sleep in the car for a few hours after close. It being summer helped. Basically, he maximized the in-the-club to outside-the-club expense.


Btw, if you login to ISG at work, even with a private browser, would be quite risky. Companies track every single click these days. I don't know about other countries, but in the US, you could easily lose your job. Not worth it.[/QUOTE]Jnpr I didn't know US is such a conservative country that you can be fired just because you enter ISG at work.

Your budget looked like quite high to me.

My every visit costing me around 1500-2000 Euro all inclusive.

My main problem is finding time to visit. If it was just 1 hour like Ukraine I would go every weekend. Of course visa another problem. But for 6 hours come and back I think you should have at least 3 days to spend there.

And this time smt inside me says I must go somewhere that I can play for freebies. Kiev Moscow and Odessa is best places for these activities but they are too cold for the recently till March so forget them. Also I am not sure to take a vacation to Europe is a good idea for Christmas. I am afraid every shop will be closed I will be alone in the streets because everyone with their families. I don't know. Smt inside says stay at home for Christmas and my visa is ending in late January.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1653844]Hahaha, you trying to kill me? LOL.

I miss FKK too and I am attached to some of the girls and we even connected on facebook an I now their real name, life etc.

But man up buddy, you are just 3 hours away! Plus turkey has amazing food man! I went to your country 3 times and people, culture and food was amazing! Plus you are just 3 hours away, me 12 hours man but I always take sleeping pill so it like one hour flight for me.[/QUOTE]Mr. Ho,

Thanks for the good words. I should take their name also but I have a bad habit; I always like to have sex with a different girl every time and FKK's are offering you large variety so no problem and that makes hard to make a connection and to get their phone or facebook. I don't know.

Of course if FRA don't have Palace-Sharks and Oase I would spend my short holiday in Antalya which was 25 °see at that date and enjoy the beach and sun. Anyway this is another story. You are right I miss the FKK. It is quite-easy-comfortable and nice. Here we don't have them. We have to face some narchotic types to find girls. Have to take risk being arrested and make love in a worried mood. I wish to have them in my own city than everyting would be easier. And maybe I would be a poorer man.

Regards.