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Went to the Pong yesterday to get a massage at a place located across the McDonald's. I have a member's card now but the thing is written in Japanese so I can't tell you the name. It's on the third floor and they wash your feet as soon as you walk in. It was a great massage.I know most of you don't care but if you are ever looking for a great massage this is definitely the place. Have any of you ever gotten any type of release at one of these so called legit places? It's weird because this particular massage place has almost see through curtains so I am thinking the chance would be nill. It seems a shame to blow 6. 5K yen each time for not getting even a chance to someday.The other question is that I work near the ANA hotel. Can anyone recommend a love hotel close by so I can finally try AM? I was hoping to try in the afternoon since I don't seem to ever get off of work. What is it with these working hours over here? Geez.I know that this was way too long and useless so please don't be hating and flame me.Thanks

The easiest place to go is Shibuya by cab or bus, from Tameike Sanno subway station it is easy to get over to Shinjuku on the Marunouchi line. There is a love hotel near the Russian Embassy as well but I would not recommend going to it as it is a little too close to work. If you are white guy you will stick out and walking out of a Love Hotel is not too cool if you are seen by clients or co workers would it? Places with a good concentration of Love Hotels are Shibuya on Dogenzaka, Shinjuku behind Kabukicho, Ueno, Okachimachi, Nippori, Otsuka, Ikebukuro. [QUOTE=Stickmanfob]Went to the Pong yesterday to get a massage at a place located across the McDonald's. I have a member's card now but the thing is written in Japanese so I can't tell you the name. It's on the third floor and they wash your feet as soon as you walk in. It was a great massage.I know most of you don't care but if you are ever looking for a great massage this is definitely the place. Have any of you ever gotten any type of release at one of these so called legit places? It's weird because this particular massage place has almost see through curtains so I am thinking the chance would be nill. It seems a shame to blow 6. 5K yen each time for not getting even a chance to someday.The other question is that I work near the ANA hotel. Can anyone recommend a love hotel close by so I can finally try AM? I was hoping to try in the afternoon since I don't seem to ever get off of work. What is it with these working hours over here? Geez.I know that this was way too long and useless so please don't be hating and flame me.Thanks[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the heads up. I have been to the back end of Shibuya before near Don Quioxte (sp? ). I just am a lazy ass and didn't want to stray too far from work thus the fascination with the Pong. I just thought there may be a love hotel area near me that I didn't know about.I know we talk about the Pong to death in this forum but my buddy showed me a place on the second floor of a Chinese massage parlor that he assured me that 5K and I would be able to get a release no prob. Walked in but the place was dirtier than hell and the girl just showed me a menu which was higher than the 5K and I passed. Went to those strip bars in the Pong on the other side opposite of 7th heaven and had a decent time but at 7K per dance that adds up in a hurry.Just looking for a naked rub and tug near me but it seems like that is a tall order to fill. I gotta learn Japanese.[QUOTE=Sailing]The easiest place to go is Shibuya by cab or bus, from Tameike Sanno subway station it is easy to get over to Shinjuku on the Marunouchi line. There is a love hotel near the Russian Embassy as well but I would not recommend going to it as it is a little too close to work. If you are white guy you will stick out and walking out of a Love Hotel is not too cool if you are seen by clients or co workers would it? Places with a good concentration of Love Hotels are Shibuya on Dogenzaka, Shinjuku behind Kabukicho, Ueno, Okachimachi, Nippori, Otsuka, Ikebukuro.[/QUOTE]

Stickman,My favorite in that area is Hotel Chanty, address Akasaka 2-16-15. Basically cross over the major road from the front of the ANA Hotel, choose little lanes heading in a straight ahead-to right direction towards the TBS building, but you don't go that far. The hotel looks like a chateau so you can't miss it once you find it. It has interesting rooms (eg a large glass window from the bedroom into the bathroom) , and is relatively cheap. About 4-5 minutes from the ANA hotel. Lube

LI,Thanks. I will definitely try and check it out. Are you talking about the small street by the golf shop or the small street by the gas station that leads into Pong? Don't know the TBS building but I am guessing it is away from the Pong. It seems that you are familiar with this area. Do you know of anyplace that offers an in house rub and tug for gaijin?[QUOTE=Lubricate It]Stickman,My favorite in that area is Hotel Chanty, address Akasaka 2-16-15. Basically cross over the major road from the front of the ANA Hotel, choose little lanes heading in a straight ahead-to right direction towards the TBS building, but you don't go that far. The hotel looks like a chateau so you can't miss it once you find it. It has interesting rooms (eg a large glass window from the bedroom into the bathroom) , and is relatively cheap. About 4-5 minutes from the ANA hotel. Lube[/QUOTE]

I'm just a regular white guy. I speak Japanese at a conversational level, and as always, I think it's useful to be able to communicate with the girls in places like this, but with it being a Chinese establishment, I don't think they'd turn people away just for being not perfect speakers. The guy on the front confirmed I could speak, but if you can get past that check, you should be ok.[QUOTE=Irv Washington]Hot BotThanks for a very informative report. Sounds like a good option for that area.Is Green Tomato "foreigner friendly"? I don't know your nationality - do you think non-Asians will be welcome there?Do you think Japanese language ability is needed? What level?Irv[/QUOTE]

Stickman,We're talking about heading from the ANA hotel in the Akasaka direction. Take a few minutes to explore that block in your lunch hour and you'll find it. You could even go via the wider street with the Starbucks, but that heads off to far to the right and you need to take a left at some point.No house rub and tugs in that area - I think this has to do with police zoning.

Hello guys,I left Tokyo 4 years ago but have to come back for business.I am looking for an absolutly gorgeous and sexy japanese girl to escort me in my hotel for 3 hours. I am ok to pay up to 100 000 yens for that. Do you have any idea where I can find this kind of service? (I already tried club boo and AM but this is not this king of girl I want).Please help me if you can.I speak japanese fluently.

Walked around today and found it. Thanks. Didn't go in but now I know where it is I may go and partake with AM. Do you know of any rub and tugs in the Pong? Do you know if you can get a tug and the "legit" massage places in the Pong?[QUOTE=Lubricate It]Stickman,We're talking about heading from the ANA hotel in the Akasaka direction. Take a few minutes to explore that block in your lunch hour and you'll find it. You could even go via the wider street with the Starbucks, but that heads off to far to the right and you need to take a left at some point.No house rub and tugs in that area - I think this has to do with police zoning.[/QUOTE]

Thanks to Sudsy I took the list and went to Yoshiwara. Literally, I was looking at the list trying to figure out if this was inclusive or not. So, I tried going into the first one which was Cambridge. I thought 100 minutes all inclusve at 35K was a good start after reading what people were paying for Playgirls, etc. I speak hardly any Japanese and got rejected. Then went to Aladdian and got rejected. I started to notice a trend.Before any of you jump in, I was as polite and humble as can be. When I got rejected I said sumimasen and arrigato, etc. Then went to the Blue Note and the guy at the front door said that he could not help but how much did I want to pay. I was thinking to myself as little as possible but I said 30K. The funny thing was during this time I saw some really hot girls getting out of the taxis. The time was around 3 p. M.So, the guy from Blue Note walks me over to aqua palace. The guy from Blue Note walks me over and probably got a comission. The guy tells me it's 35K. I said OK. I was really horny and since I haven't got laid since I have been here said what the hell.The guy at Aqua Palace shows me two pictures of girls who are way way past their prime. I take the younger and less fatter of the two. The guy comes back in and tells me she is ready. It was the girl that I did not pick. I can't speak Japanese, so what to do? I walked upstairs with this lady. I am not trying to be mean but she had no waist. She was just a rectangle with a head and looked really really old. I was scared but horny. I can't believe I went through with it. I closed my eyes the entire time and tried to imagine anyone else. Her hands were like sandpaper.Long story short, the routine was the same as others describe at these places. Sit on the stool, mat (slip and slide), bath tub, and then to the bed. It was an experience for sure but one that I am not willing to go through again. I am hoping that there is one place there that takes foreigners that have the type of girls that came out of the taxi.At least I know where it is now and have experienced this type of action albeit with someone who will probably give me nightmares tonight.[QUOTE=Sudsy]I stumbled across this list, and thought it might be of use to everyone here, so I've converted the names to Roman, translated the funny ones, and now we have a relatively comprehensive list of all the soaplands in Yoshiwara, along with website links, telephone numbers, and prices and course lengths.The price will be listed as either inclusive or "bath fee" - the ones listed as BF will follow the 2-5 times pattern I mentioned before. I am NOT responsible for any errors on that one, phone ahead and confirm or check the website! If you end up being told at the door that the 25,000 you thought you were going to pay is actually 125,000, it's your own fault for not checking.

Stickman,Your story is interesting. I think one problem was your level of horniness. It sounds like you were a little too anxious to get your rocks off. I never go out on the prowl when I'm super horny. That clouds judgment and definitely negates patience. When you're in an area like Yoshiwara, patience is the key. Getting rejected is part of the game. I've been to Kawasaki at least 15 times walking past the smiling touts at the soaps and have never been successful getting into one of those soaps. Rejection is the rule there. In fact, if I was ever successful in gaining entry, I'm not sure what I would do, since I'm perpetually in the state of mind that I'll have to settle for a booth when I'm there. I speak decent Japanese but that place is a tough nut to crack. At least Yoshiwara has places willing to take foreigners. The problem is, you have to make sure all of the stars line up (not too busy, a lady willing to take a foreigner, a place that takes foreigners when not busy, not a busy time, etc.) in order to be successful.I think you made a good try but it sounds like you were too eager to score. Don't be discouraged. Next time, just go when you're not so horny and be willing to pack it in and try another day if you're not successful.[QUOTE=Stickmanfob]Thanks to Sudsy I took the list and went to Yoshiwara. Literally, I was looking at the list trying to figure out if this was inclusive or not. So, I tried going into the first one which was Cambridge. I thought 100 minutes all inclusve at 35K was a good start after reading what people were paying for Playgirls, etc. I speak hardly any Japanese and got rejected. Then went to Aladdian and got rejected. I started to notice a trend.Before any of you jump in, I was as polite and humble as can be. When I got rejected I said sumimasen and arrigato, etc. Then went to the Blue Note and the guy at the front door said that he could not help but how much did I want to pay. I was thinking to myself as little as possible but I said 30K. The funny thing was during this time I saw some really hot girls getting out of the taxis. The time was around 3 p. M.So, the guy from Blue Note walks me over to aqua palace. The guy from Blue Note walks me over and probably got a comission. The guy tells me it's 35K. I said OK. I was really horny and since I haven't got laid since I have been here said what the hell.The guy at Aqua Palace shows me two pictures of girls who are way way past their prime. I take the younger and less fatter of the two. The guy comes back in and tells me she is ready. It was the girl that I did not pick. I can't speak Japanese, so what to do? I walked upstairs with this lady. I am not trying to be mean but she had no waist. She was just a rectangle with a head and looked really really old. I was scared but horny. I can't believe I went through with it. I closed my eyes the entire time and tried to imagine anyone else. Her hands were like sandpaper.Long story short, the routine was the same as others describe at these places. Sit on the stool, mat (slip and slide), bath tub, and then to the bed. It was an experience for sure but one that I am not willing to go through again. I am hoping that there is one place there that takes foreigners that have the type of girls that came out of the taxi.At least I know where it is now and have experienced this type of action albeit with someone who will probably give me nightmares tonight.[QUOTE=Sudsy]I stumbled across this list, and thought it might be of use to everyone here, so I've converted the names to Roman, translated the funny ones, and now we have a relatively comprehensive list of all the soaplands in Yoshiwara, along with website links, telephone numbers, and prices and course lengths.The price will be listed as either inclusive or "bath fee" - the ones listed as BF will follow the 2-5 times pattern I mentioned before. I am NOT responsible for any errors on that one, phone ahead and confirm or check the website! If you end up being told at the door that the 25,000 you thought you were going to pay is actually 125,000, it's your own fault for not checking.[/QUOTE]

Yes Homer69 is right - and I would just add two things: expect to get less for more if you are a foreigner at most of the Yoshiwara places - usually nothing, but sometimes something like what you experienced... I was onced given a 35k screw by a modest lady in a slimy room with no soap... I know it ispossible to score there, but I think it is even a harder place than many Japanese areas for foreigners, especially without language skills. most importantly, like any serious negotiation, be ready to say no thank you if it really isn't what you want. That's why you don't shop for food when you're really hungry - too hard to avoid the cookie aisle.

Stew2,The problem for many here is their time is short. For some of my friends that come over for short trips, they are desperate to score and don't really understand that they are cutting down on their chances of satisfaction. So, that can explain away some of the hard luck. I understand this fully.When I head out mongering, in the back of my mind, I always think that I might come back without scoring. That way, I can turn down opportunities that look bad or look too good to be true. I've been up to NK multiple times and left without finding anything to my liking. I like the banter with the touts but I'm not there to just waste money. I want to get value if at all possible and most of the places in NK available to foreigners are Chinese places and it takes some real persistence to score with a Japanese lady. Physically, I have no problems with the attractiveness of Chinese ladies, it's just the personality issues that I have concerns about. I've had much better luck with Korean ladies but they are also hard to come by in NK.[QUOTE=Stew2]Yes Homer69 is right - and I would just add two things: expect to get less for more if you are a foreigner at most of the Yoshiwara places - usually nothing, but sometimes something like what you experienced... I was onced given a 35k screw by a modest lady in a slimy room with no soap... I know it ispossible to score there, but I think it is even a harder place than many Japanese areas for foreigners, especially without language skills. most importantly, like any serious negotiation, be ready to say no thank you if it really isn't what you want. That's why you don't shop for food when you're really hungry - too hard to avoid the cookie aisle.[/QUOTE]

Homer69,What or where is NK?Thanks

NK is Nishi-Kawaguchi. I think too many foreigners have been up there and ruined it for the rest of us. I don't even bother going anymore because places which were welcoming me before are off-limits now. Read the threads on Nishi-Kawaguchi here. If you go, go alone, behave and act like a Japanese.[QUOTE=Tengu]Homer69,What or where is NK?Thanks[/QUOTE]