Angeles City

No matter where I am, onceI hear prices quoted in US $, I walk as I know the price is being jacked up. There are posts here about the price of pussy here, there and everywhere. You should give the price in the local currency and, if you must, put the US $ price in parentheses if, for not other reason than $100 is big bucks in third world shtt holes like the Philippines and chicken feed elsewhere On my last day, I gave the waitresses 100 PHP a piece. If did that in Yankee land, I would pribably get a pot of coffee thrown over me. Ditto rwgarding the lady I gave 12,000 PHP equiavlent to in forex on my last day.

This thing of grading women is silly too. If you want a draft horse, a plough horse, a light horse, a race horse, a gaited horse, a warmblood, a coldblood or a hotblood, check and pay accordingly in the local currency. Go ride them cowboyl RAWHIDE!

This is done for the convenience of the readers as girls in the Philippines do not ask for money in US dollars but in in Philippine pesos.

I would say that the $20 to $30 price range is low for attractive girls in Angeles. If you are expecting very pretty girls to accept these prices, you will be in for a surprise.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2985315]Here's first hand knowledge of some of my samples from around the World:

In Colombia 100 k COP or less (about $25) is normal for FS in many places.

In Mexico you can get FS for 500-1000 ($25-$50).

In Thailand 1000 Baht ($30) can easily get you FS.

In London, UK it's 30 British Pounds ($38) for FS at a Walk Up in Soho.

In Spain, FS in a casa for 50 Euros ($52).

In Athens, Greece it's only 20 Euros ($21) at the establishments all up and down Filis Street.

In Costa Rica, FS is 10 k Colones ($20) at the Pensions.

In India you can get FS for 3 k Rupees ($35) at a Spa.

In the Philippines you can get FS for 2 k PHP ($35), some bar fines 3.5 k PHP.

Why make $100 the price point when you don't have to? Secondly, you have to really travel around the World to actually know what the real price point is and not assume.[/QUOTE]But what you get differs wildly. Some places your $30 gets you a ten minute wham bam CBJ from an average ho and others (like AC) it used to get you all night full GFE BBFSCIP with hot girl. You can't say the price is $30 or $100 or $300 without specifying what you get for it, besides a basic fuck. Its like saying the price of a meal should always be $50 whether it be Michelin 3 * or Burger King. Thats just ridiculous.

Barfining early last night gave me my best night's sleep of the holiday.

I went to Kokomoz for breakfast and met up with fellow ISG member Moonshot. It was to good to catch up with someone with a similar outlook and share stories about our respective trips.

I walked to SM Mall to have one last coffee with Macca before his bus to the airport but there was a problem. He told me that his phone had been snatched at the top of Narciso Street by a young lad, about 15, wearing a red basketball vest. Macca gave chase in to a rough backstreet area but had to give up as the young thief was too quick. However an old lady recognised the boy and was able to tell the tourist police his name and nickname. So for an hour I sat in the back of a police van as we tried to track the boy down. The leader of the barangay also got involved, as a crowd of curious residents gathered. He knew the boy and suggested he'd try to sell it at a row of small shops some distance away. We went there in the police van but no luck. The police officer was confident the boy would return to his barangay in a few days and they'd be able to find out what he did with the phone.

After all that drama I needed a drink, so decided to visit Hi Quality to see if the beautiful 18 year old was there who I bought a drink for yesterday. The place was crowded with girls, at least 30 stood in line across the stage, including some very nice ones indeed. It seems 4. 15 pm is the time to visit this bar! I cursed myself for only discovering it on my final few days, as the lineup today was one of the best I've seen during my time in Angeles. It's important to note though that lineups can change like the wind in Angeles. At 2. 30 pm yesterday there were only eight girls in this bar and at night there are very few girls left. Your mileage may vary as they say.

My girl wasn't there so I sent her a message explaining I'd come to find her.

'I'm here na' came the instant reply.

A minute later she appeared magically in front of me and I bought her a drink. She'd been upstairs applying her makeup. It was good to see her again. She's an 18 year old student who works in the bar after each day at school. She was my idea of perfection in terms of looks. Beautiful face, long dark hair, big luscious lips, the cute and innocent type I crave. In addition she had lovely dark skin, no tattoos and a perfect slim figure with the added bonus of fuller tits. As we were chatting she showed me some videos of her on TikTok, doing little dances and cavorting in infinite pools, and I noticed she had nearly 800,000 followers!

Before 4 pm the barfine here is 3500 for short-time but after 4 pm it rises to 4000. However this girl was so special I wanted to take her for long-time, a snip at 5000 pesos.

I took her for a smoothie at a place overlooking Walking Street, when there was a funny moment. She recognized some of young people walking down the street wearing school uniform and hid her face. She told me it was because she doesn't want any of her classmates to know she works in a bar after school.

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It's nice to barfine early. We took our time drinking our smoothies and I enjoyed chatting. She showed me photos on her phone of her huge extended family and her province in Leyte. It looked beautiful, with sandy beaches and pretty waterfalls. She told me that she was returning there in April to see her family for the first time in a year. 'You come too! ' she joked.

The sex was everything you'd expect from an 18 year old fresh to the business. She must have told me 'I'm shy' ten times and offered a restricted menu. But it was a joy to fuck such a standout girl, her little squeaky groans intensifying as the session went on. She rode me to a climax, jumping off when she heard me cumming. It's a shame, I think we'd make beautiful babies.

A funny thing happened afterwards. She face-timed her mother for her daily chat and he mum spotted me in the background. 'Who is that? ' she asked. Her daughter replied that I was her boyfriend. Thus ensued a very awkward conversation as I said Hello, to my future mother-in-law, who told me I was gwapo.

'My mum ask me every day do I have boyfriend' she said afterwards.

I took her to Swiss Chalet for dinner. She ordered a Filipino chicken curry which was very tasty and included pineapple chunks. When I find myself in Angeles again, I'll certainly look to barfine during the afternoon more often. Not only are there some pretty girls and cheaper prices, it opens the door to a relaxed evening, in which you can take your girl for a smoothie and dinner.

A great girl to sign off my time in Angeles.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2985315]Here's first hand knowledge of some of my samples from around the World:

In Colombia
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In the Philippines you can get FS for 2 k PHP ($35), some bar fines 3.5 k PHP.

Why make $100 the price point when you don't have to? Secondly, you have to really travel around the World to actually know what the real price point is and not assume.[/QUOTE]I agree with your listing and your remark that the 100 $ demand is mainly accepted by the losers who either never read a forum with actual prices or assume they are too handsome that they must pay that for getting accepted by a girl to later boast at home, how good they are.

However, what is missing in your list are countries in Africa with a lot of monger activities for about 15 to 30 $ a night. And those black sqirting queens like to fuck.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2985315]In Thailand 1000 Baht ($30) can easily get you FS.[/QUOTE]What? For a middle aged street walker maybe. For a Pattaya gigo girl it's going to be a lot more than that.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2985457]..........A great girl to sign off my time in Angeles.[/QUOTE]Your posts have shown that Angeles City mongering is not as bad as others have made it out to be.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2985431]But what you get differs wildly. Some places your $30 gets you a ten minute wham bam CBJ from an average ho and others (like AC) it used to get you all night full GFE BBFSCIP with hot girl. You can't say the price is $30 or $100 or $300 without specifying what you get for it, besides a basic fuck. Its like saying the price of a meal should always be $50 whether it be Michelin 3 * or Burger King. Thats just ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2985250]100 is no price point. [/QUOTE]Respectfully, I'm with ME / EA. See below.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2985381]I would say that the $20 to $30 price range is low for attractive girls in Angeles. If you are expecting very pretty girls to accept these prices, you will be in for a surprise.[/QUOTE]Guessing that's because AC is like Cebu and Manila (and maybe Davao): A bubble. High barfine amounts raise prices for surrounding local girls in the electronic market. If the bars weren't there, then AC prices would be in the same lower price range as any other provincial area.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2985315]In Thailand 1000 Baht ($30) can easily get you FS.[/QUOTE]Not disagreeing with your great price list. You can add to that the great German FKK clubs. However its a comparison of apples and oranges. As an example, the 1000 bhat in Thailand is not for a gogo girl to spend the night. Asian gogo girls go to your place, and often spend the night and give 2 pops. Going to a German or Indo club and having a single-pop girl is a different situation. The girls don't go out drinking / dancing with you. Asian gogo girls are your GF for the evening (or time agreed to). Also some of the places you mentioned are condom-oriented.

As several of the gents said here recently, they haven't barfined for years. I am with them. While I made somewhat a career getting gogo girls to come to my place outside of normal biz hours (and for 30% the cost), at some point the barfine system itself became anathema to my style. I want a certain thing, at a certain time, done in a certain way; and barfining doesn't fit into my system (example: If I want a girl at 10 am or 1 pm in Manila, the barfine is only available at night).

That said, I still recommend barfining wholly to gents making their first trip and staying 2 weeks or less. Whether Burgos or AC (or time split between them), the point-and-shoot system of seeing nearly naked girls, and knowing up front the approximate total cost for the night, makes for great convenience (albeit costly).

Get some.

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Before 4 pm the barfine here is 3500 for short-time but after 4 pm it rises to 4000. However this girl was so special I wanted to take her for long-time, a snip at 5000 pesos.....

A great girl to sign off my time in Angeles.[/QUOTE]A great series of reports. It's good to see that you enjoyed yourself.

Would you please clarify what a punter gets for a 3 pm LT?? Through to the evening so that she can return before closing time or is it through to the next morning?

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2985479]I am usre the mother has her suspicions as it is abit careless to have naked punters in the background.[/QUOTE]I don't think any girl or mother is keen to admit that she's a $20 hoe so cover stories are common. Of course, everyone knows what is going on but pride and gifts make everyone pretend that students and waitresses can earn 100 k a month.

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Guessing that's because AC is like Cebu and Manila (and maybe Davao): A bubble. High barfine amounts raise prices for surrounding local girls in the electronic market. If the bars weren't there, then AC prices would be in the same lower price range as any other provincial area.

Not disagreeing with your great price list. You can add to that the great German FKK clubs. However its a comparison of apples and oranges. As an example, the 1000 bhat in Thailand is not for a gogo girl to spend the night. Asian gogo girls go to your place, and often spend the night and give 2 pops. Going to a German or Indo club and having a single-pop girl is a different situation.[/QUOTE]ID agree and emphasise that the bubbles are the exception rather than the norm. They charge high prices to cater to a very specific (discerning? Customer: someone who wants a foreigner and english speaking environment with girls available on a point and shoot basis. Let's not forget that the high prices act as an aggregator to heard lots of pretty girls in one area for our selection. For those happily to work outside those requirements, then the options and prices are much better. As you mentioned, for guys prepared to wait or build up contacts, that can even include girls with in the bubbles.

It wasn't that long ago that the bubbles had the normal prices too. I'm sure there's a Master's thesis in there somewhere about hoeflation being limited to foreigner gogos and not other areas. Many have seen prices triple or more while nearby options have seen little price changes in decades.

[QUOTE=ATraveler;2985470]What? For a middle aged street walker maybe. For a Pattaya gigo girl it's going to be a lot more than that.[/QUOTE]Plenty of middle aged chicks in Pattaya gogos that are going to be more. Why are you acting as if middle aged chicks are only street walkers? There are chicks of every age in every mongering scene. But you are talking about prices prescribed by the venue though. The same girl outside of the gogo is not going to cost that. All you are getting by going through a middle man (the gogo) is a higher price. You are not getting a better girl.

I had always said you could get those same chicks much cheaper when they were not in the gogo. There was another board member that would always go to gogos blowing money. Finally he saw a chick on Thai Friendly that he had previously paid 5000 baht for at the gogo. She came over for 1000. I have not seen any gogo posts from him since.

I had been buying my auto parts at the auto parts store. A buddy who is a mechanic recently told me about a site online (rockauto) to buy auto parts. He said that place is where a lot of the stores get their parts. Did I argue that the parts are better if bought from the store? No. I went online and looked at the price of something I needed to buy and the exact same part (same part number and all) was over $100 less than it was at the parts store. They even only charge a $14 core charge where the parts store charges $40. Same as these chicks. Because you go to a place where you are charged more, does not mean they are any different.

Also once fucked a chick in Kinnaree for 1000 baht during the day. She said at night she goes to work at Whats Up (which was then the most expensive gogo on Walking Street) where they charge 10,000 baht. The difference was that she had to go to the gogo early because they would professionally do their hair and makeup before work. I do not know about you, but I am not about to pay 10 times more because of a chick's hair and makeup.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2985512]Would you please clarify what a punter gets for a 3 pm LT?? Through to the evening so that she can return before closing time or is it through to the next morning?[/QUOTE]I reported last time that when I went to the bars at 10 am, they said LT means that you keep them until the next day. So whether you pay your LT at 10 am or 10 pm, you still get to keep the girl until the next morning for the same amount.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2985522] Many have seen prices triple or more while nearby options have seen little price changes in decades.[/QUOTE]Local vs bubble: granted this info is 2 years old, as I haven't gone to the local bars in the past 2 years, but at the local bars, the best price I could get was 1. 2 and they wanted 1. 5 so the prices have tripled since I first started going to local bars. Bubble (I'll use AC as the example) Has gone up a little over 5 times in the same time frame. Ha. Come to think of it the best value might be in the casa since the price there has only doubled. Ha. Ha. For that matter burgos is the same? From what I am hearing you can go all in for about 10 k at burgos which is about double in the same time frame also. Might have to get up off my lazy butt and check out one of the gentlemens club to see what the prices are at currently to compare.

[QUOTE=Transporter;2985566]From what I am hearing you can go all in for about 10 k at burgos which is about double in the same time frame also. Might have to get up off my lazy butt and check out one of the gentlemens club to see what the prices are at currently to compare.[/QUOTE]Prices along Burgos are what you say, about p10 k all-in (approx 4 k barfine, 5 k morning tip, and 1 k in drinks) at most bars (I think someone said Oculto bar wants p12 k for the barfine amount alone; outrageous I think). However that price of p10 k hasn't changed in more than a decade. What has changed in Burgos, mildly, is the tip asking price. Prior to Covid, each girl determined her tip request, usually dependent on her looks. Fugs asked 4 or 5 k (often accepting 3 k), and hotties asked 6 or 7 k (often getting it). What seems to have changed is that the mamas seem to have set the tip request amount for all girls at 5 k. Previous to Covid the mama would tell you to chat the girl regarding her tip amount; after covid the mamas are quick to tell you what the amount is, and its usually 5 k. In fact at several of the Burgos bars recently when I asked girls for the barfine price, instead of telling me, they called over a mama to discuss the prices. Most of the Burgos bars haven't changed prices much since the barfine price went up to p3900 (around 2010 I think, someone correct if wrong).

Whereas Burgos barfine amounts pre-covid were uniform for a decade (p3900, not including tip), AC barfine prices were not. At one point Body Shop girls were p1300, and Atlantis increased rates to a multi-tiered set (p2000, p2500, and p3000 for different girls), precovid. AC barfine prices went up incrementally precovid, and bar-by-bar, since I arrived early-mid 2000's. At the same time Body Shop was p1300 for LT, the ST blow row bars wanted p400 to take a girl to your place for 4 hours (later shortened to 2 hours). The AC barfines approximately doubled after the covid return, to a mostly uniform set from p4 k to p5 k.

While I don't barfine anymore (price is not the reason), I still recommend the barfine option for inexperienced or new fellas to get laid quickly and conveniently for short trips, and who like to either take a girl out for an evening of fun, or just like to have a girl to chat up for a few hours between pops (the apple). OTOH, if you are only needing the bone-release (the orange), then many of MongerHunger's and Goffering's other locale's might be more for you.