Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2549835]I don't want GFE. In Real Life, GFE means you have to make your girlfriend happy. That could mean a lot of work. I had a girlfriend who needed 2 hours of fucking to cum. NO fun.

What I want is the 3 minute fuck, so I don't have to worry about the lady. That's what mongering should be about. If I want GFE, I'll get a G.[/QUOTE]Its funny what you said, but a lot women take a long time to cum or don't even cum at all no matter how good of a shag one is!! Hilarious, but true.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2549825]Natty Bumpo is in Brazil right now. Months ago when he was planning the trip, I told him that if he had a bad session there then I would pay for it. Go read his reports in the Rio thread. He seems to be at 100% so far to the tune that he is giving out $20 tips to chicks, while I rarely pay more than $20 there for the entire session.[/QUOTE]Mr. E is right. I am having a great time in RJ and that despite a shutdown of all Termas, Prive's and restaurants which just ended yesterday. I went to my 1st RJ massage parlor yesterday. What saved me this past week were the beaches and the Barra VIP call girls. So, yes I am batting 100%, but delving a little closer into the stats you will find that 7 different girls (so far): 2 were "rock my night" outstanding (I repeated with one of these), 2 more were pretty outstanding too, but I have to knock off a few points for the silly cone they had stapled to their chests. (nonetheless I repeated with of those girls last night – ha ha). And three others that satisfied and gave me a respectable session, but didn't really set off any 4th of July firecrackers. It must also be noted that I have not barebacked one Brazilian girl to date in RJ. And it must also be noted that I had a near miss a couple of nights ago when a Barra VIP girl came over and insisted on getting paid before play. I naturally refused to go along that foolishness and she left a little miffed.

My point is this: the RJ girls that I have been with so far have been pretty great. But so are most of the Thai, Indo, and Filipina girls I have been with as well. Brazilian girls are just another flavor and I like this new flavor. It is really tasty. That's all. It will be interesting to see what my stats are at the end of this trip. I am just getting in the groove, Brazil is just opening up again (the bars and massage parlors) and I have 4.5 more weeks down here. Whoopie! I am heading for SP Monday. Looking forward to the big city, but I don't want to leave RJ either. Ha Ha. That is how I feel.

Last point: I originally thought of RJ & SP as nothing more than backup trips (substitute trips) in case LOS continued to remain shut off from the world. But now after only 7 days down here and with a shutdown to boot, I do not feel that way anymore. I now think RJ is a unique world class punting destination. I am really glad I came.

Mr. E, I had the delightful and always beautiful Yasmin (Barra VIP's girl) over a 2nd time last night. You will be proud of me. I only tipped her 50 br!

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2549834]In terms of good sessions with ladies, Pattaya is certainly in the top 3 destinations, along with Brazil and Russia. Probably the best session I ever had, in terms of work ethic, was in Pattaya, with a lady who was a total pro. When I paid her for Long Time, she would fuck me even if I didn't ask her, she just did it, day time, night time, whenever. The only time a lady refused to stop fucking when I came, until I came again. I almost died.

But, everything is closed now, for 2 weeks+. Very sad.[/QUOTE]I vouch for Brazil, and I also typically have had very, very good experiences in Germany at the FKKs too. I believe that the top three mongering destinations in the world are Brazil, Germany, and Thailand. That's my order of preference. Other mongers would have it differently. All that said, I love Ruskie girl puss and ass! Thing is, I've had it just about everywhere else but in Russia itself LOL! I've encountered "Rusas" not only in Europe, but also in the Middle East and Asia. Also in Latin America!

We need photos of what a FREE Pattaya girl looks like.

The Free narrative just doesn't make sense.

Similar to the I Want to Pay Higher Taxes meme crazy people claim.

So I've been following that Korean boys livestream. He has 2 girls with him, pretty sure like100%paid.

Lots of eating and drinking.

Looks like he makes a lot of money, lots of paid subs. And quite a few donated money during Livestream.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2549878]Last point: I originally thought of RJ & SP as nothing more than backup trips (substitute trips) in case LOS continued to remain shut off from the world. But now after only 7 days down here and with a shutdown to boot, I do not feel that way anymore. I now think RJ is a unique world class punting destination. I am really glad I came.[/QUOTE]That's what the heck plenty of us have been saying literally for decades! I mean, did you think that all of the field reports and pictures were just some made up, exaggerated bullshit or something? I know a man needs to decide for himself, but my God if you can give it a go, then by all means do so. But don't wait until a once in a century pandemic to take a leap of faith! What would you have done if there had been no COVID leading to the shutdown of the LOS? Never have gone to Brazil to see for yourself even once, when you clearly had the time and means to do so? You're there enjoying it now when the place is only a small showing of what it's capable of. There are plenty of mongers here who have been saying forever that Brazil is a world-class mongering destination, and I've been one of them. There are plenty of other seasoned mongers here, and when they say a destination is top notch, it's time to sit up and listen and accept the "learnings" that are being bestowed upon you gratis! I suppose better late than never. Geesh!

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2549867]Its funny what you said, but a lot women take a long time to cum or don't even cum at all no matter how good of a shag one is!! Hilarious, but true.[/QUOTE]Yep. Not even women know why it is so hard for most of them to cum. As opposed to bargirls who "cum" every time they have a customer. And then there was the civvie lady who had an orgasm every 3 minutes. She would cum, stop, cum again, stop. Shampoo, rinse, repeat, until she was too tired to continue. Leaving me somewhat unfulfilled.

Anyway, I am paying for me, not them, so I don't care if they cum or not. If I am not paying, then, yes, out of courtesy I will give them plenty of time until they cum or get too tired to play anymore, and then I go for it.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2549903]I vouch for Brazil, and I also typically have had very, very good experiences in Germany at the FKKs too. I believe that the top three mongering destinations in the world are Brazil, Germany, and Thailand. That's my order of preference. Other mongers would have it differently. All that said, I love Ruskie girl puss and ass! Thing is, I've had it just about everywhere else but in Russia itself LOL! I've encountered "Rusas" not only in Europe, but also in the Middle East and Asia. Also in Latin America![/QUOTE]/ threadfuck ON.

I spent a lot of time in Russia. The absolute best place for women was in Novosibirsk, Siberia, in December. Cheap sex, women who had no money and nothing to do, it was great. Of course, it was minus 40 degrees outside so just going outside my hotel was an adventure.

/ threadfuck OFF.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2549878]...It must also be noted that I have not barebacked one Brazilian girl to date in RJ..[/QUOTE]Natty, is that because the girls there generally refuse to go bareback when the subject is brought up, because a "go with the flow" approach has never gone there for you in RJ, because you purposely choose not to go bareback with the girls in RJ even when they are perfectly fine with it or because of something else?

I'm pretty sure I would be among the (well, at least) 99% Success Rate Club membership in Thailand if going bareback wasn't an absolute necessity in order for me to engage in penis-vagina sex, having a GFE, PSE or any real fucking experience at all. However, it is.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2549867]Its funny what you said, but a lot women take a long time to cum or don't even cum at all no matter how good of a shag one is!! Hilarious, but true.[/QUOTE]No way will 3 minutes or even 30 minutes make me happy. For me it's all about levels of dick sensitivity which are based on how much sex I am getting at the time. Like everyone, the more I fuck, the longer it takes me to finish. Sometimes I never can no matter how long the session.

An interesting observation of mine is that I have found that with freebies, the girl comes early and multiple times. Not so with P4 P girls, real or imagined.

Happy in the hobby.

Johnie.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2550088]Natty, is that because the girls there generally refuse to go bareback when the subject is brought up, because a "go with the flow" approach has never gone there for you in RJ, because you purposely choose not to go bareback with the girls in RJ even when they are perfectly fine with it or because of something else?

I'm pretty sure I would be among the (well, at least) 99% Success Rate Club membership in Thailand if going bareback wasn't an absolute necessity in order for me to engage in penis-vagina sex, having a GFE, PSE or any real fucking experience at all. However, it is.[/QUOTE]/ Beating a dead horse ON.

I have sad news for you concerning ladies in Pattaya. It is very common for ladies to seek Thai men after work, when they have money in their pocket. Pattaya is filled with bars for Thai ladies, some featuring rent boys, others are mixed where ladies go to pick up men for free. The problem is that men at these bar are coming off work, too. Many work at gay bars in Pattaya, which tend to close before 1 am, so now the Thai men working these bars are free to seek women when their bars close and their male customers go home. Yeah, I know, it's shocking. Thai men will let themselves get fucked by farangs for money, even if they are straight.

Just like you, customers of these Thai rent boys, both male and female, often decline condoms. That means that some particularly nasty diseases are shared among the gay customers, the Thai men, and bar girls that go with these Thai men. So, HIV levels in Pattaya are higher than you would want to know about, as well as other diseases that saliva can't kill.

BTW, bargirls will claim that they never go to the rent boy bars, but somehow, those bars are filled with lady customers at 3 am.

/ Beating a dead horse OFF.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2550088]Natty, is that because the girls there generally refuse to go bareback when the subject is brought up, because a "go with the flow" approach has never gone there for you in RJ, because you purposely choose not to go bareback with the girls in RJ even when they are perfectly fine with it or because of something else?

I'm pretty sure I would be among the (well, at least) 99% Success Rate Club membership in Thailand if going bareback wasn't an absolute necessity in order for me to engage in penis-vagina sex, having a GFE, PSE or any real fucking experience at all. However, it is.[/QUOTE]ET,

I think we both agree on one thing: there is no comparison between bareback and covered vaginal sex. Our main difference is that you require bareback with all your girls and I do not. This important and critical difference leads us to are different approaches in making the pickup. I am not critical of your approach. You play it straight with the girls and tell them up front what you want. They can accept your proposal or reject it. Up to them My approach gives the girls their option to have covered or uncovered intercourse, but I do expect all my girls to give me friendly, passionate sex and I screen for that very carefully.

So I am down here in Rio and I have been intimate with 8 girls / 3 repeats to date. All I can tell you is I that thus far I am batting 0 out of 8 on barebacking and 7 out of 8 on performing cunnilingus and getting great BBBJ's (and that includes the repeats), so it is not for lack of trying, 555, especially with my 3 repeats.

Last night for example, I had Monique, my favorite over again. The foreplay was great and included, dancing, kissing, deep throating, ect, ect, and it is safe to say that Monique was in good place especially after I went down her and devoured her lovely flower. So, she was ready for the main event. I moved up into position, began kissing her mouth, she responded with her eyes still closed, and I was about to enter the event horizon, the point of entry, when Monique opened her eye, smiled, giggled, moved slightly out of the way, and said "condom". Now being the gentleman that I am, I continued kissing and fondling her while I whispered "why condom" and she just said "because". LOL.

And that was the sum total of our conversation on the subject. Ha Ha! The reason being that I feel that if the girl wants a condom then she should get the condom. So after a while, when I was ready to fuck her, I reached over to the nightstand and gave her a Sagami 002 L. I brought down 4 boxes to them. She put it on me, then got on top and away we went with cowgirl, mish, and lastly sideways from behind. It was all very very good. Now obviously, I like this girl a lot or I wouldn't have asked her back, and of course bareback would have made it even better. But that's the way it went. And that's more or less the way it went my 2 other repeat girls, Deborah and Yasmin, and the others too. Point being I would have done them all bareback, but they all wanted a condom, so that is what they got it. I have no regrets.

But this is all anecdotal information. My sample size is still too small to form any conclusions. Perhaps Cane can tell us what he thinks the percentage of Brazilian working girls performing bareback services to first time customers is. I am still in the investigatory phase of this study.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2550178]/ Beating a dead horse ON.

I have sad news for you concerning ladies in Pattaya. It is very common for ladies to seek Thai men after work, when they have money in their pocket. Pattaya is filled with bars for Thai ladies, some featuring rent boys, others are mixed where ladies go to pick up men for free. The problem is that men at these bar are coming off work, too. Many work at gay bars in Pattaya, which tend to close before 1 am, so now the Thai men working these bars are free to seek women when their bars close and their male customers go home. Yeah, I know, it's shocking. Thai men will let themselves get fucked by farangs for money, even if they are straight.

Just like you, customers of these Thai rent boys, both male and female, often decline condoms. That means that some particularly nasty diseases are shared among the gay customers, the Thai men, and bar girls that go with these Thai men. So, HIV levels in Pattaya are higher than you would want to know about, as well as other diseases that saliva can't kill.

BTW, bargirls will claim that they never go to the rent boy bars, but somehow, those bars are filled with lady customers at 3 am.

/ Beating a dead horse OFF.[/QUOTE]I think it's fine to bring reality here. Some here sound so Sincere yet just not believe able. Old guys pleasuring Thai hookers- I'm not there yet. LOL.

Many girls I get along with tell me I'm Customer.

So Pattaya flooded yesterday. Why would a Taxi driver pick up customers who going to Stink up his car with their wet Filthy shoes?

That Street water looks nasty as the Dickens.

Better than Ozzy Osbourne reality show.

So the 2 attractive Thai girls in Parts are Drunk. More drinking planned at the Girls hotel room. Girls look like they getting Frisky. Korean guy does not approve and leaves. Less than 20 minutes in room. The last 3 hours of his stream was him in his room.

I wonder if Romantic stuff. You know what I mean,. Would get his Channel demobilized. LOL.

P.S. I didn't watch all 8 hours. With fast forward you can get the Basics of what happened.

Korean I do not understand.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2550209]ET,

I think we both agree on one thing: there is no comparison between bareback and covered vaginal sex. Our main difference is that you require bareback with all your girls and I do not. This important and critical difference leads us to are different approaches in making the pickup. I am not critical of your approach. You play it straight with the girls and tell them up front what you want. They can accept your proposal or reject it. Up to them My approach gives the girls their option to have covered or uncovered intercourse, but I do expect all my girls to give me friendly, passionate sex and I screen for that very carefully.

So I am down here in Rio and I have been intimate with 8 girls / 3 repeats to date. All I can tell you is I that thus far I am batting 0 out of 8 on barebacking and 7 out of 8 on performing cunnilingus and getting great BBBJ's (and that includes the repeats), so it is not for lack of trying, 555, especially with my 3 repeats.

Last night for example, I had Monique, my favorite over again. The foreplay was great and included, dancing, kissing, deep throating, ect, ect, and it is safe to say that Monique was in good place especially after I went down her and devoured her lovely flower. So, she was ready for the main event. I moved up into position, began kissing her mouth, she responded with her eyes still closed, and I was about to enter the event horizon, the point of entry, when Monique opened her eye, smiled, giggled, moved slightly out of the way, and said "condom". Now being the gentleman that I am, I continued kissing and fondling her while I whispered "why condom" and she just said "because". LOL.

And that was the sum total of our conversation on the subject. Ha Ha! The reason being that I feel that if the girl wants a condom then she should get the condom. So after a while, when I was ready to fuck her, I reached over to the nightstand and gave her a Sagami 002 L. I brought down 4 boxes to them. She put it on me, then got on top and away we went with cowgirl, mish, and lastly sideways from behind. It was all very very good. Now obviously, I like this girl a lot or I wouldn't have asked her back, and of course bareback would have made it even better. But that's the way it went. And that's more or less the way it went my 2 other repeat girls, Deborah and Yasmin, and the others too. Point being I would have done them all bareback, but they all wanted a condom, so that is what they got it. I have no regrets.

But this is all anecdotal information. My sample size is still too small to form any conclusions. Perhaps Cane can tell us what he thinks the percentage of Brazilian working girls performing bareback services to first time customers is. I am still in the investigatory phase of this study.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the followup info, Natty. For me, that is critical info. I would have stopped at that same point of entry on the girl's objection to bareback with me as well on the rare ocassion that I had not cleared up the bareback or not issue before I took a girl.

However, the difference for me is it would have been a waste of time for me to then reach for a condom even if it were gossamer thin and dripping inside and out with the best high tech lube on the market. Lol. I would have wound up asking for a BBBJ+CIM as a backup. Failing that, I would have had to simply pay her the full agreed upon amount or the going rate, thanked her for her time and bid her farewell.

I know you have a fairly high rate of success in choosing girls who are into you enough to feel comfortable and even enthusiastic about going bareback with you, especially on repeats. So I will add your info and others I have heard over the years to scratch Brazil off my list of "must visit" P4P destinations. I'll pass on ever bothering to take that trip and not regret it for one minute.