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Have you noticed also how Filipinas very rarely wear a properly fitting bra - they haven't a clue how to shop for the correct size so invariably end up with a badly fitting tit sling that create chicken wing bulges in all the wrong places.

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Took my Cebu favourite to a proper shop for measurement and then we bought good proper size bras. Amazed when she was measured as what she thought she was she so far off....now with the good bras she feels great and is so appreciative ;)

And I buy her panties...well Wicked Weasel accessories etc..bit of differnet coloured string but then we decided wearing no panties was easier...RK - she did that with the black dress the other week...a few heads turned in Ayala...was so rewarding :D You would have liked even though you have seen the peach in the flesh you naughty boy!!

[QUOTE=Irony Monger]Seems like every other profile on DIA asks that you "accept me for what I am". Is that a code for "I am a ladyboy"?[/QUOTE]I don't believe this is a code for being a ladyboy. Many of the girls are dirt poor and believe that foreigners are wealthy. They are conscious of the economic imbalance. They often ask you to meet their family (not recommended unless you see the girl as long term gf) and will be embarassed at showing you just how poor thier family is. It also often refers to the fact that they have kids - accept me, accept my kids.

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I'm a newbie on DIA scene but I am facing a few problems:

I'm a nomal 35 yo european. I'm not Brad Pitt, but I'm clearly not Fat Bastard either!

1. On DIA only a handful of girls are hot. 10% or less. Those girls must be contacted by every horny guy going to the phils, so not sure how to stand out.

2- I am only receiving messages from ugly girls. Confirms 1 that the competition only contacts the hot girls (guess that's no surprise!)

3- What to think about the "too good to be true" profile, like super hot girl that says she's opened from all holes (well she says that with her own words).

4- There are two elements to introduce with girls, the money, and the fact I am not willing to commit fast if I ever decide to commit, and that first is play time and the rest comes or doesn't in most cases. Should that be introduced over dinner or directly when chatting, don't want to create or exploit confusion.

5- When a guy makes 10 dinner date on DIA, how many will show up, and how many will accept the brekfast invitation![/QUOTE]Appearance wise I am 14 years older, have lost most of my hair and no longer have a 6 pack. To address some of your points:

I only contact hot or respond to hot girls in DIA and have had success. I make sure my replies are up front but also slightly cheeky with really corny lines like:

I know when you meet me you will not be able to keep your hands off me.

I don't have sex with anyone on a first date. I have very high standards. But I could make an exception with you.

Just because I am taking you to dinner does not mean I will have sex with you so don't assume anything (yeah right!)

I think you should be up front that you are not willing to commit. It pisses me off the number of guys who tell the girls they are looking for a serious relationship when the reality is that they are after a quick shag. These girls have emotions and feelings and these should be respected. The girls will also value you for being honest with them.

In relation to money. Don't say "I will give you x pesos if you have sex with me. " Offer instead to pay their transport costs. After the deed I am always very generous with this. If they have a kid I might say: "can I give you this for your taxi and to get some milk / food for your kid? "

I have also been contacted by girls on DIA who state in their profile that they have a bf and are just looking for friends. These girls give out as well.

Of the 10 dinner dates it is quite possible that 10 will turn up. Whether they hang around for breakfast is up to you and how you treat them.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Took my Cebu favourite to a proper shop for measurement and then we bought good proper size bras. Amazed when she was measured as what she thought she was she so far off....now with the good bras she feels great and is so appreciative ;)
...................RK - she did that with the black dress the other week...a few heads turned in Ayala...was so rewarding :D You would have liked even though you have seen the peach in the flesh you naughty boy!![/QUOTE]

I never noticed if the bra fitted or not. I was too keen to get the clip unfastened with my trembling fingers.
Hmmmm I better PM you WR. Comments are X-rated

[QUOTE=Irony Monger]Seems like every other profile on DIA asks that you "accept me for what I am". Is that a code for "I am a ladyboy"?[/QUOTE]

Sometimes it means that but in 90% of cases it will be for other factors eg chubby, kids, poor, dark, short, no education etc

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I'm a newbie on DIA scene but I am facing a few problems:

I'm a nomal 35 yo european. I'm not Brad Pitt, but I'm clearly not Fat Bastard either!

1. On DIA only a handful of girls are hot. 10% or less. Those girls must be contacted by every horny guy going to the phils, so not sure how to stand out.
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Most guys on DIA are:
- Horny teenagers from India looking for camsex
- Old western and arabic sex tourists
- Penniless filipino guys looking for sugar mommy/free sex/whatever they can get

You'll be fine, just make it clear you are a cool gent and you mean business.

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2- I am only receiving messages from ugly girls. Confirms 1 that the competition only contacts the hot girls (guess that's no surprise!)
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Yes, if you want quality.. you'll have to message them first and win their interest.. I did have a few quality girls who messaged me first, but its rare

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3- What to think about the "too good to be true" profile, like super hot girl that says she's opened from all holes (well she says that with her own words).
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If it's too good to be true, then it is a ladyboy (gay man who took hormones) or a scammer (uploaded a celebrity photo).

[quote]5- When a guy makes 10 dinner date on DIA, how many will show up, and how many will accept the brekfast invitation![/QUOTE]

Well it depends on the girls you pick and how you treat them.. if you have super high standards, then expect a lot of rejections.. if you want a sure kill, pick a girl with a low self esteem who is really into you.

I am reasonably picky with the ladies and my scorecard looks like this:
- Out of 20 girls you message, 10 will be worth chatting with, 5 will be worth meeting in person and 3 will be willing to stay for "breakfast" :)

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I'm a newbie on DIA scene but I am facing a few problems:

I'm a nomal 35 yo european. I'm not Brad Pitt, but I'm clearly not Fat Bastard either!

1. On DIA only a handful of girls are hot. 10% or less. Those girls must be contacted by every horny guy going to the phils, so not sure how to stand out.

2- I am only receiving messages from ugly girls. Confirms 1 that the competition only contacts the hot girls (guess that's no surprise!)

3- What to think about the "too good to be true" profile, like super hot girl that says she's opened from all holes (well she says that with her own words).

4- There are two elements to introduce with girls, the money, and the fact I am not willing to commit fast if I ever decide to commit, and that first is play time and the rest comes or doesn't in most cases. Should that be introduced over dinner or directly when chatting, don't want to create or exploit confusion.

5- When a guy makes 10 dinner date on DIA, how many will show up, and how many will accept the brekfast invitation![/QUOTE]


On DIA everything turns on the photo for the girl. Girl friends of mine have had poor , blurred or conservative photos on line and the only response they will get is from the Indian/Iranian/muslim guys who are messaging just about every girl. She will dutifully send out a nice message to a fellow and get no reply or perhaps some sort of polite interest noted. Then I take a few nice pics of her in a bikini and give her one of the best to upload. The results are astounding. Within seconds or the photo being approved by moderators she will start getting maybe a message every 2 minutes at first. Maybe 400 in the first couple of days. Guys who she messaged maybe 3 months ago with no reply will suddenly write back saying "sorry for the delay in getting back to you blah blah.

Or course guys being the hypocrites they are will often say something along the lines: it's nice to see you have great assets but I really think you should cover up, there all sorts of bad guys on this site. Completely forgetting the fact that they have totally ignored her for 3 months. The ultra high pressure ones will try and persuade her to "go exclusive" even if he is only theoretically coming to the Phils in say 3 months time, they will try all sorts of BS arguments to get her to hand over her passwords so that they can close down her profile.

Greg, the reverse is also true. You may start talking to someone, and the second these girls find a better one, they will dump you. The pretty ones are the most eggregious especially if you are not Caucasian. The second they corner a Caucasian while talking to that damsel in distress, and if you are of any other race, they will dump you! The young and pretty ones definitely prefer Caucasians because they produce better looking babies.

Further, the younger and prettier they are, the more likely they will ask for money. The sexier the picture is, the more likely they have been around the block couple of times.

But there are also some gems in the group. I am dating one of them.

I know this because I am not a white old man! The reason the lousy looking girls get a decent response from non-whites is because the pretty ones do not respond to guys who are not good looking, who are not white and who don't have money.

Majority of the girls on these sites know exactly what they are doing, so don't be fooled. Do not send money until you have met the girl in person. She may be bilking more than one of you at a time.

DIA is a good place if everyone is honest. You get to meet some nice girls, but talk first, meet than go beyond that.

Like Greg said if you are bad looking girl tough luck and if you are not a white old man, tough luck too! It is a meat market. If you are looking for personality, visit Phillipines, spend some time, and meet people there through direct interaction or friendly introductions. On these websites, looks carry a lot of weight!

[QUOTE=GregLondon]On DIA everything turns on the photo for the girl. Girl friends of mine have had poor, blurred or conservative photos on line and the only response they will get is from the Indian/Iranian/muslim guys who are messaging just about every girl. She will dutifully send out a nice message to a fellow and get no reply or perhaps some sort of polite interest noted. Then I take a few nice pics of her in a bikini and give her one of the best to upload. The results are astounding. Within seconds or the photo being approved by moderators she will start getting maybe a message every 2 minutes at first. Maybe 400 in the first couple of days. Guys who she messaged maybe 3 months ago with no reply will suddenly write back saying "sorry for the delay in getting back to you blah blah.

Or course guys being the hypocrites they are will often say something along the lines: it's nice to see you have great assets but I really think you should cover up, there all sorts of bad guys on this site.completely forgetting the fact that they have totally ignored her for 3 months. The ultra high pressure ones will try and persuade her to "go exclusive" even if he is only theoretically coming to the Phils in say 3 months time, they will try all sorts of BS arguments to get her to hand over her passwords so that they can close down her profile.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I'm a nomal 35 yo european.

1. On DIA only a handful of girls are hot. 10% or less. Those girls must be contacted by every horny guy going to the phils, so not sure how to stand out.
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Only 35yo? Oh you gwapo boy!

Shoot, a 65yo guy in Manila with cash in hand trumps 30 25yo guys wacking off at the pc back home. Maybe they would dream of a young rich kano. Until then you'll do! You are young anyway, for a guy with the cash to travel to the PI.

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I'm a newbie on DIA scene but I am facing a few problems:

I'm a nomal 35 yo european. I'm not Brad Pitt, but I'm clearly not Fat Bastard either!

1. On DIA only a handful of girls are hot. 10% or less. Those girls must be contacted by every horny guy going to the phils, so not sure how to stand out.

2- I am only receiving messages from ugly girls. Confirms 1 that the competition only contacts the hot girls (guess that's no surprise!)

3- What to think about the "too good to be true" profile, like super hot girl that says she's opened from all holes (well she says that with her own words).

4- There are two elements to introduce with girls, the money, and the fact I am not willing to commit fast if I ever decide to commit, and that first is play time and the rest comes or doesn't in most cases. Should that be introduced over dinner or directly when chatting, don't want to create or exploit confusion.

5- When a guy makes 10 dinner date on DIA, how many will show up, and how many will accept the brekfast invitation![/QUOTE]
1. Most of the girls post pictures when they werev 16 years old and fresh looking. Never chat without cam. This way you know what she looks like. Most will parade around to show their body. If they show naked it means they are either camgirls or working girls. It really does not matter how many guys they chat with. If you score with her ultimately it is good for you.
2. Maybe you are pushing these girls too hard. Act uninterested will get you better responses. Usually they ask when I am coming to Phi. I reply saying I do not know when I can see her due to previous engagenments. After that they keep on messaging to make sure I meet them.
Ofcourse ugly girls always reply fast. But what do you care? " cover the face and fire the base" should apply. Sometimes ugly girls give best sex as i have evidenced in AC.
3. Nice girls do not talk about sex explicitly. These girls must be pros. I tend to stay away from them. Quite possibly they maybe ladyboys.
4. It looks like you want to find a girl to committ in a relationship including marriage. These things should be taken slowly. Only after meeting many times you can be sure. Even these girls sometimes do not want a relationship. Many want a foreign guy to support them and meet them few times a year. Only some wants to get married to a older guy and move to another country.
5. I have had 80% success rate in making plans and meeting them. About 50% success in having sex. Out of these there some girls I met who I would not have sex with them even if they paid me. I have had sex with two virgins with no promise of marriage. But I did take care of them financially.
I do not give them just taxi fare. I give them more money saying it is for them to buy something. If the girl stayes with me for a few days I buy them lots of gifts and give them some parting money also. None have refused money or gifts.

[QUOTE=GregLondon]...Then I take a few nice pics of her in a bikini and give her one of the best to upload. The results are astounding. Within seconds or the photo being approved by moderators she will start getting maybe a message every 2 minutes at first. Maybe 400 in the first couple of days.....[/QUOTE]

Mr. GL

How comes you have so clear and detailed info about that?
Do you open and read their accounts in that dating sites?

[QUOTE=Irony Monger]Seems like every other profile on DIA asks that you "accept me for what I am". Is that a code for "I am a ladyboy"?[/QUOTE]I noticed, too, that profiles featuring other ladyboy indications (physical appearance, children undecided, openly stating ladyboy status, etc.) often contain the phrase "accept me for what I am". But I feel it's only kind of reliable in conjunction with those other hints. I also feel that "real" girls wanting to express the wish for acceptance of their social status use the phrase "accept me for [b][I]who[/I][/b] I am" instead. Speaking of semantics, some ladyboys seem to refer to themselves as a "person" and avoid calling themselves "girl". Remember, none of this a surefire way as lots of girls just copy and paste, it worked well for me though as a small red flag prompting me to check for other small red flags. Too many of those and I decide it's not worth the effort to find out if it's really just a wrong impression.

[QUOTE=Cool Traveler]

DIA is a good place if everyone is honest. [/QUOTE]

Ha ha, that's like saying prison is good place if it wasnt' for the criminals. These websites are the new Philippines, home to freelancers, lady boys and scam artists. The girls sit in the bars with their 3g phones responding to their "boyfriends", travel to Manila to meet them...cause they are good girls. The "good girls" work the bars as Cherry Girls giving blowjobs all week, but pretend to be living in Samar. Every girl has a phone full of pictures of her family and friends in the province to send to the guy. The guys fly all the way from America or Europe, pay for the cost of planes, hotels, restaurants, at best to be with a couple of girls, when they could go down the street and get the same quality and BS from any bar girl. When next in Angeles, check out the internet cafe's and see the number of girls there, who do you think they are talking to??? And for those girls that are truly in the province, you don't think they know the game???

[QUOTE=Lord Balut]I noticed, too, that profiles featuring other ladyboy indications (physical appearance, children undecided, openly stating ladyboy status, etc.) often contain the phrase "accept me for what I am". But I feel it's only kind of reliable in conjunction with those other hints. I also feel that "real" girls wanting to express the wish for acceptance of their social status use the phrase "accept me for [b][I]who[/I][/b] I am" instead. Speaking of semantics, some ladyboys seem to refer to themselves as a "person" and avoid calling themselves "girl". Remember, none of this a surefire way as lots of girls just copy and paste, it worked well for me though as a small red flag prompting me to check for other small red flags. Too many of those and I decide it's not worth the effort to find out if it's really just a wrong impression.[/QUOTE]

Referring to "person" is certainly an indicator as is a height over say 5ft 5in. and uncertain/no re children. I hadn't picked up on the who/what distinction.

[QUOTE=Rampana]Mr. GL

How comes you have so clear and detailed info about that?
Do you open and read their accounts in that dating sites?[/QUOTE]

I travel with a second netbook so that girls can use that whilst I am doing my own work. They will often be checking their dating sites or facebook and call me over to upload a pic form them or help with the wording of their profile or when they have a message they don't understand/want to get my view as to whether the guy is sincere or just BS ing etc. If you have a problem with that - tough.