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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1654243]I budget something like $3000 for my clubbing activities........This is for 4 days of clubbing and does not include hotel room, transportation etc. [/QUOTE]$3000 US = 2400 euro so that's 600 euro per day. Let's take off 100 euro average for club entry leaving you with 500 euro per day for girls. Basically that's 5 hours room time per day at 50 euro per half hour clubs. For some guys this is a lot. For others it's average especially visiting a club with a regular you spend a few hours with.
Personally finding it difficult to spend so much these days since I never pay for extras and my multi hour girls like German Sam seem long gone.
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Grass is greener?
[QUOTE=MrHo;1653844]Plus turkey has amazing food man! I went to your country 3 times and people, culture and food was amazing! Plus you are just 3 hours away, me 12 hours man but I always take sleeping pill so it like one hour flight for me.[/QUOTE]Turkey also has amazing women! I liked having sex with the Turkish girls in Dubai more than the other types of girls that were there. Oh man, I still fantasize right now about how one of the Turkish girls DFK'd (voracious) and fucked in the bed. Of course, if Iceberg is Turkish then I guess it's no special thing for him to sex a Turkish tute. But, Iceberg should not feel guilty about going to FKKs. After all, some of the owners of these fine establishments are Turkish themselves LOL! And at StraletVoyager there is a third option. Find an optifiken who fucks your brains out! Now there's a gem hahaha!
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Your math is right. Some people can fuck for hours, I can't, especially if going to clubs four days in a row. (Even a blow job becomes not so pleasurable after several hours of sex in a couple of days, especially the way some girls tug and yank and pull at your dick, sometimes with teeth; I wish I was a superman and had boundless energylike others but I am not).
Again, this is a problem for people traveling from far, whereas locals can pace themselves nicely. Also, some people don't mind paying for 2 or 3 hours, but fucking intermittently and with just one finish, may be 2 at best. While I do want to spend money in the clubs, such a multi hour booking does not make sense to me. If I am paying, I want to spend a majority of that time in sex. On my last visit, I booked a 2 HR with Roxana, but spent more than half hour flipping through photos on her phone and my phone. Why the fuck do I need to pay her 50 bucks to look at photos, even if I find her charming?!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1654255]$3000 US = 2400 euro so that's 600 euro per day. Let's take off 100 euro average for club entry leaving you with 500 euro per day for girls. Basically that's 5 hours room time per day at 50 euro per half hour clubs. For some guys this is a lot. For others it's average especially visiting a club with a regular you spend a few hours with.
Personally finding it difficult to spend so much these days since I never pay for extras and my multi hour girls like German Sam seem long gone.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1654259]Turkey also has amazing women! I liked having sex with the Turkish girls in Dubai more than the other types of girls that were there. Oh man, I still fantasize right now about how one of the Turkish girls DFK'd (voracious) and fucked in the bed. Of course, if Iceberg is Turkish then I guess it's no special thing for him to sex a Turkish tute. But, Iceberg should not feel guilty about going to FKKs. After all, some of the owners of these fine establishments are Turkish themselves LOL! And at StraletVoyager there is a third option. Find an optifiken who fucks your brains out! Now there's a gem hahaha![/QUOTE]For Turkish tutes, I love German FKK, I especially love half Turkish half European girls!
In Japan, I enjoy fucking half Japanese and half white girls, it is quite good, but cost me about 400 USD per hour minimum.
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[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1654242]"You have a problem, man, You are too focus on the visual, (Optificken)" in fact the only thing I'm focused on are the optificken. The only reason I goto FKK clubs is to find girls that would be exceedingly difficult to get into bed quickly in the real world. To goto an FKK and look for average looking girls is not why I go. So it comes down to two choices-1) a stunning optificken girl for 1 hour with average service - vs 2) an average looking girl with exceptional service for one hour-you know what I'd pick? yep that's number 1 any day of the year LOL! We are all different in what we desire just my thoughts. merry xmas and seasonal greetings to all.....i am more likely to place more emphasis on the personality of a girl in the "real" world over looks but fkk's for me are just not about that. and a happy new year...[/QUOTE]Fucking hottie in FKK is better than fucking normal beauties, FKK is cheaper, less nerve tingling, and also alot less stress.
I even think escort services are cheaper than normal beautiful girls.
Annnd you can change each time with beautiful tutes and no worry of getting sex.
Normal beauties. Too much money, nerves, stress and times has to be invested before getting her into bed, only plus is no condom!
Hmmmm. It makes me wonder and it is eternal wonder. I think about this over and over again. Dilemma of prostitute hunter and second thoughts.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1654291]I especially love half Turkish half European girls![/QUOTE]Big surprise: Turkey belongs to Europe.
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Oriental magic
[QUOTE=Ilink;1654111]Looking at his detailed reports I am amazed at his success in giving girls orgasm.Maybe it is some oriental magic. ?[/QUOTE]No oriental magic at all. Just your consideration, endurance and tolerance towards girls could make them feel happy.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1654262] On my last visit, I booked a 2 HR with Roxana, but spent more than half hour flipping through photos on her phone and my phone. Why the fuck do I need to pay her 50 bucks to look at photos, even if I find her charming?![/QUOTE]Only you can answer that question. You can take more than one session with same girl with a long break in between, and let someone else get an access. I do that sometimes. I rarely go 2 hours but has happened occasionally. Its still better value for me than doing an hour with ass fucking. Roxanna does not offer me her ass in any case. If I was both quick and small she might, but I would not take it. I like her pussy just fine.
However girls are fine with being paid to look at photos, and rest the pussy. They love low stress sessions as long as they don't get too bored. I don't have any photos to show the girls. LOL. And I probably would not want to look at hers for more than 5 minutes. Just a few is okay.
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[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1654242]"So it comes down to two choices-1) a stunning optificken girl for 1 hour with average service - vs 2) an average looking girl with exceptional service for one hour-you know what I'd pick? yep that's number 1 any day of the year LOL! We are all different in what we desire just my thoughts. [/QUOTE]The reality is not many girls are super stunning, but still stunning enough to be beyond our normal reach. I agree. I would take option 1, however when they look great and give acceptable service (not perfection), I repeat them. I don't repeat stunners that are bad in the room. There is little point. When they give great service and are stunning, I repeat them very often.
So the total rating is a sum of the looks, chemistry and performance. Without fairly good looks they might not get a chance at all. There are certainly girls with good service that I don't repeat, just because they are a little too average, in the looks department. Looks is a big part of being turned on, for me. Maybe its due to having a part time GF that has an extremely good body and quite pretty face. I can't really take a large step down from her. The only problem with her, is sex is just not often enough. I have to make up the deficit.
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[QUOTE=Willi69;1654466]Big surprise: Turkey belongs to Europe.[/QUOTE]Not the entire part of Turkey! Half Part of Turkey is considered Asia also and Half as Europe and that is why it is called Gateway to Europe!
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Learn German?
I don't understand German at all, and I can't speak German except for few words.
I think it will limit myself to only be able to contact people who speak English in Germany. This is not interesting and make myself very isolated from the real German people.
In my observation, the real German people don't like foreigners who do not speak German.
I think, if I can understand & speak some German at least to a conversation level, maybe it can make my future vacations in Germany easier&have more contact with the real German people? Is my thought correct?
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[QUOTE=Willi69;1654466]Big surprise: Turkey belongs to Europe.[/QUOTE]It doesn't. 3% are in Europe, 97% in Asia. That's why Turkey should never be part of the EU.
HB.
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Turkish Tutes
[QUOTE=MrHo;1654291]For Turkish tutes, I love German FKK, I especially love half Turkish half European girls![/QUOTE]Funny thing is that I have never had sex with a Turkish girl at an FKK. I've been approached by some, but they were not attractive enough to me to session. Besides, I always wanted "real" Turkish girls in my bed and not "German" ones. The Turkish girls in Dubai looked better than the ones in the FKKs (a lot better) and they were 100% Turks not influenced by Germany. They dressed the most provocatively in the nightclubs, and I found them to be good providers too. The next time I am in FKK Land, I hope to do find at least one Turkish provider to my liking. I call it "tanned Turkish tookus" (ass) hahaha! And all this talk about whether or not Turkey is Europe or Asia. Well, it's a little bit of both. Turkey is a true crossroads nation strategically positioned between two continents. It was the location of both the Eastern Roman Empire and the Ottoman Empire. There is a constant tension in Turkey about which way to look. To the east or to the west. I don't care which way Turkey looks so long as Turkish tutes continue to look favorably my way for future sexual liaisons!
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1654255]$3000 US = 2400 euro so that's 600 euro per day. Let's take off 100 euro average for club entry leaving you with 500 euro per day for girls. Basically that's 5 hours room time per day at 50 euro per half hour clubs. For some guys this is a lot. For others it's average especially visiting a club with a regular you spend a few hours with.
Personally finding it difficult to spend so much these days since I never pay for extras and my multi hour girls like German Sam seem long gone.[/QUOTE]I would say that from my experience €600 per day (including club entry price) is perhaps slightly above average spend. However that said I would have to say that it is easy to spend that amount of cash if you are in a club for 12+ hours per day. Many mongers do spend many hours in the club and would probably spend cash to at least this level particularly if they are visiting FKK / Sauna clubs on an infrequent basis (less than 10 visits per year). There is a tendency to splurge cash and enjoy oneself if you visit the clubs less often. Guys who visit the clubs frequently (perhaps two or three times a month) tend to be very selective in their hooker selection and consequently spend less per visit.
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Turkish delights
[QUOTE=TheCane;1654663]Funny thing is that I have never had sex with a Turkish girl at an FKK. I've been approached by some, but they were not attractive enough to me to session. Besides, I always wanted "real" Turkish girls in my bed and not "German" ones. The Turkish girls in Dubai looked better than the ones in the FKKs (a lot better) and they were 100% Turks not influenced by Germany. They dressed the most provocatively in the nightclubs, and I found them to be good providers too. The next time I am in FKK Land, I hope to do find at least one Turkish provider to my liking. I call it "tanned Turkish tookus" (ass) hahaha! And all this talk about whether or not Turkey is Europe or Asia. Well, it's a little bit of both. Turkey is a true crossroads nation strategically positioned between two continents. It was the location of both the Eastern Roman Empire and the Ottoman Empire. There is a constant tension in Turkey about which way to look. To the east or to the west. I don't care which way Turkey looks so long as Turkish tutes continue to look favorably my way for future sexual liaisons![/QUOTE]Yes, indeed, The Cane!
Turkish girls are very pretty. I have met some half-Turkish, half-German girls at Artemis. Alicia comes to mind. She was teasing the guys by rubbing her pussy in the open on the couches trying to lure somebody into the room. I had the perfect view from my vantage point. Unfortunately, her tease was better than her please. Recently, also at Artemis, I met up with a girl named Esra. She is a light skinned Turkish girl (sorry, not dark enough). She loosely reminded me of Sibel Kekilli of Game of Thrones (Shae). (Sorry, too German influenced). I guess you will just have to visit Turkey for the real deal. My biggest regret, and this was due to fatigue, I missed out on trying a girl from a pack of Turkish girls that were working at Oase, before the renovations. It has been a while, but I still remember her sweet personality. She was not getting much action that night, but she kept hounding me when I was trying to sleep. She kept calling out to me and blowing air at me from the top of the staircase down to my lounge chair. That group has been missing at several of my most recent Oase visits. I might just have to visit Turkey myself.
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