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[QUOTE=Paulie97;2528448]The concept of a "conspiracy theorist" in our current culture points to people like you that, in response to certain events, allege all sorts of nefarious schemes by people in power, usually aimed at strengthening their grips on the masses. It has a negative connation only because when people such as yourself are asked for proof of your claims, you provide none while bringing out the exclamation marks and turning on the cap key. And if any evidence ever is provided it's almost always easily debunked, or is only some song and dance that isn't evidence at all.
But if you think this isn't so, then feel free to provide proof for the diabolical hoax you allude to above. And don't forget to prove who all is in on it, from scientists to politicians, corporations, and all the world over of course.[/QUOTE]You choose what you want to believe in yourself. What you are asking of me demands personal information I am not willing to share online on a forum like this. But yet, I have quite a lot of first hand information of all sorts of things people like you would never believe. And you would call it a conspiracy theory. Heck, do you even know what lobbyists do for a living? It is a billion dollar industry that live on what you frame as 'conspiracies'.
The idea of nefarious is also questionable. As I mentioned already, I am cheering them on. The end goal is good. Some weak minded people like yourself just think their methods are evil in order to get there. And that is also why a lot of things has to be hidden from the public eye. As Machiavelli writes in his book The Prince.
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Mursenary Let me tell you one thing. The biggest alphas in the world know conspiracies are true. Because they are the ones coming up with them. Simple facts.
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Hell, I even partake in coming up with these nefarious ideas myself sometimes.
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[QUOTE=Mursenary;2528508]Anyway, we are getting beyond the point. My point is that rational people entertain conspiracy theories once in a while, mostly just as a thought exercise or maybe just for shits and giggles. Even if those athletes believe in a conspiracy theory here and there, that may not be pathological. The actual conspiracy theorists are the full time, habitual guys that have issues rooted in some intellectual, psychological, or emotional deficiency. My theory is that it is due to a lack of authentic, realized self worth or realized social value.
This British clinical psychologist puts it more eloquently than I can, the last being the the most pertinent here:[/QUOTE]I agree with above. As do I with the two parts you excerpted from APA article. They offer generalizations that probably explain the subconscious motivations for 80 percent of the conspiracy theorist sympathizers and 100 percent of what you refer to as the pathological conspiracy theorists. However, we could make the same statements about people who fall for scams. Someone who works a minimum wage job (1) probably has lower levels of education, and (2) probably feels powerless and disillusioned. He is more vulnerable. He is exactly the type of person to save up a few thousand dollars to attend a seminar to be part of a pyramid scheme.
People who are desperate enough to see something will find ways to see it. A minimum wage guy fantasizing about wealth, will ignore the redflags when he hears about a get-rich-quick scheme. Middle-aged, socially awkward guy will ignore the redflags when a beautiful Eastern European girl half his age shows him attention. My main point is that emotions will always be a blindspot and even so called "winners" can be susceptible. As evidenced by Madoff scandal, many educated and powerful people also fall for scams.
In 2017, Robert De Niro appeared at a press conference with a prominent anti-vaxxer (he may have backed off the stance a little, but that is clearly not a case of being misquoted or trolling). De Niro clearly is a somebody. When he speaks, people listen, so I think we can agree that he is in that regard a leader of men. But De Niro's emotional blindspot is that he has a child with autism. [URL]https://www.vox.com/2017/2/15/14622632/robert-de-niro-rfk-jr-vaccine-press-conference[/URL].
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Kanye west
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2528510]Supported him so much that he too ran for president.[/QUOTE]The funny part was when West stated that he would run under the Birthday Party, because "when we win, it's everybody's birthday".
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[QUOTE=Paulie97;2528448]And in your very next post you answer your own question.[/QUOTE]In the next post I was being an analyst. Not a theorist.
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Or do you mean that all analytics are conspiracy theorists?
Have you ever analyzed something and then thought to yourself: 'There must be a conspiracy ongoing in there somewhere'.
Well actually due to quantum physics, there is a subjective conspiracy in anything we analyze due to how observation is key to reality. So the generating force behind what you observe are actually conspiring against you at this very moment. And that is exactly why you have to read what I am writing here now.
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No intelligent life 🛸
Beam me up Scotty. No intelligent life here. We'll return in the next millennium, after the one cell amobeas evolve.
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[QUOTE=Paulie97;2528473]And you have to ask what a conspiracy theory is? That is beyond hilarious.[/QUOTE]Talking about the topic at hand, remember how people were saying it's just "conspiracy theory" that the Astra / Zeneca "vaccine" is not effective for people over 65?
Here is another "conspiracy theory" that has now become fact:
Straight from the German Robert Koch Institute: "Der COVID-19-Impfstoff von Astra- Zeneca wird aktuell aufgrund der derzeit verfugbaren Daten nur fuare Personen I'm Alter von 18 bis 64 Jahren empfohlen; zur Beurteilung der Impfeffektivitat ab 65 Jahren liegen bisher keine ausreichenden Daten vor. ".
First paragraph in blue: [URL]https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/Infekt...ublicationFile.[/URL].
In English: "Last week, Germany's vaccine committee recommended it should only be given to people aged under 65, while the EU, which authorized it on Friday for people aged 18 and over, lowered its reported efficacy rate from 70.4% to 60%. In both cases, authorities cited a lack of sufficient data from the clinical trials."
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2A1263[/URL]
Oh yes, and guess what? Despite 'doctor' Mursenary claiming that these "vaccines" are extensively tested and are safe in the long term, there is one common theme in both articles I linked: A lack of sufficient data from the clinical trials" and in German: "Liegen bisher keine ausreichenden Daten vor."
'Insufficient data,' yet somehow the governments and media are lying that there is hardly a risk of chronic (long term side effects of experimental mRNA vaccines that were rushed to market in 7-8 months.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2528348]But Kanye West was a huge Trump supporter.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't that be part of his mental issues? I doubt he was sincere.
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[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2528697]Beam me up Scotty. No intelligent life here. We'll return in the next millennium, after the one cell amobeas evolve.[/QUOTE]Well, I'm so happy that you're so intelligent to judge that no one else here is not as intelligent as you.
However, there is one thing I don't understand: since prostitution is the "oldest profession in the world" and you're on a prostitution internet forum, then wouldn't that imply that your own evolutionary progress (from a "one cell amoebe" into a human) and dealing with the most basic of hardwired human urges, sex and reproduction, is perhaps not as "intelligent" and sophisticated as you'd like it to be? LOL!
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[QUOTE=Mursenary;2527611]Most of my life this year has been spent in the hospital where everyone is wearing a mask for 13+ hours a day. Some have to wear an N95 mask for the entire day. It's amazing how much a person can adapt to the current situation. I've learned that smile has become unnecessary to read a person's attitude. Eyes and demeanor is enough, not ideal, but more than enough.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mursenary;2528122]Why adapt? ...[/QUOTE]Obviously you had to adapt because you wrote you learned too, while working 13 h in a hospital. I don't work in hospital, no reason for me to adapt. I prefer face, smile, stuff like that, old world.
Without propaganda TV the "corona problem" would be only half as big as it looks like.
How often you change the mask, heard it's necessary every 2 hours? Lately the biggest "corona eruptions" in Germany happened in hospitals or places for older people. Maybe the nurses don't wear the right masks, made in China.
I worked for two different doctors in my life. Never again I can tell you. They made more money with diseases than with health. So not much motivation to keep people healthy. Spooky. Hope it's different where you from.
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[QUOTE=Mursenary;2528136]Funny, most Filipinos, Laos, Cambodians, and Vietnamese I've met are hardly ever shy. Many are even pretty crass. Perhaps you are mixing your words again and are thinking of the Chinese and Japanese and calling everyone with dark hair and almond eyes Asian.[/QUOTE]Nice you liked my response to "Expatlover". (Check original posts) Or are you his cousin? I never asked the Asians I met so far "Where you from?" Expect one, he was from south Korea. A very nice guy, very nice parents I guess.
Yes absolutely, before I have no other indication, I call people who look like Asians, Asians.
Once I met a hooker from Thailand, the land of the smile, is it still correct, or is it now called the land of the smile behind a mask? However, she looked a bit like a femboy, or was it the other way around? Can't remember. Great person, a bit lazy in bedroom, but she cooked well.
Back to corona dictatorship again, not that the administration is giving me too many negative social points. I want to be a good citizen, not that the society starts to talk behind my back, calling me names and is pointing with fingers at the outsider. I want to belong to them and I have a face to loose!
A while ago I posted that Germany did till mid January 37.45 million tests. Does anybody know how many different people they have tested? I am asking because certain people are tested multiple times per week, for example nurses, cops or soccer stars.
Would be interesting, the number of tested people should be way much lower than 37 million.
Keep the cash money alive! Boycott the vaccine campaign! Sabotage the plandemic management! Give it to the tyrannical system! Fight the power! Do it like Merkel with the big fat wirecard strapon!
Free world, free thoughts. Peace to the Asian resistance crew, get your ass up!
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2528606]I agree with above. As do I with the two parts you excerpted from APA article. They offer generalizations that probably explain the subconscious motivations for 80 percent of the conspiracy theorist sympathizers and 100 percent of what you refer to as the pathological conspiracy theorists. However, we could make the same statements about people who fall for scams. Someone who works a minimum wage job (1) probably has lower levels of education, and (2) probably feels powerless and disillusioned. He is more vulnerable. He is exactly the type of person to save up a few thousand dollars to attend a seminar to be part of a pyramid scheme.
People who are desperate enough to see something will find ways to see it. A minimum wage guy fantasizing about wealth, will ignore the redflags when he hears about a get-rich-quick scheme. Middle-aged, socially awkward guy will ignore the redflags when a beautiful Eastern European girl half his age shows him attention. My main point is that emotions will always be a blindspot and even so called "winners" can be susceptible. As evidenced by Madoff scandal, many educated and powerful people also fall for scams.[/QUOTE]Definitely, as it's not ever a cut and dry, black and white situation. The situations like Di Niro seem to be just a goof up. We're not always "on" and like you said, emotion can cloud your judgement. We all slip, I know I do every so often, but I'll emphasize the it's the [B]habitual[/B] attraction to conspiracy theories that reflects some sort of pathology.
However, I do want to emphasize the third part that was somehow cut out though. I think that subgroup is the larger sect we see in many of the discussions on this forum. It seems that most of the people here, even as ridiculous as they sound, do have some sort of post secondary education. That observation to me just emphasizes the fact that not all university educations are created equal. I don't think an undergraduate business degree really teaches many hard skills and how to actually think and process information. Successful business majors probably would have been successful in that field even without a fancy university degree. Anyway, I digress again.
The second group probably spills into the third group a bit as some probably fall into the powerless group. Think 75 K per year earner with an asshole boss doing meaningless office work that brings no sense of accomplishment. They're not big winners to feel empowered and they're not deprived enough to even garner pity. Mediocrity can be a living hell.
The third group however is pretty universal as humans have evolved as pack animals engrained with a need to belong. Even introverts need some minimum level of social exposure and validation to ease their higher threshold of loneliness.
Posting again for quick reference:
[QUOTE]The final set of motives we would call social motives and those refer to people's desire to feel good about themselves as individuals and also feel good about themselves in terms of the groups that they belong to. And I guess at the individual level, people like to feel... Well, they like to have high self-esteem. They like to feel good about themselves. And potentially one way of doing that is to feel that you have access to information that other people don't necessarily have.[/QUOTE]These posts always end up longer than I intend!
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[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2528697]Beam me up Scotty. No intelligent life here. We'll return in the next millennium, after the one cell amobeas evolve.[/QUOTE]I would be careful with the over simplistic denigration with pure insults without explanation. It just makes many of the people you look down upon hunker down even more. Plus it brings no entertainment value and doesn't further thoughtful conversation. For every half dozen or so fruitless conversations I have here, there are one or two interactions that provoke thought where I actually learn a bit.