Barcelona

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;1899527]I got nothing against FKKs, I am just not convinced they have a pricing advantage if a person makes some effort in Barcelona.[/QUOTE]Agreed. But you are missing my point a little:

The point being that at the FKKs you do not need to make that much effort before entering the place.

- At the FKKs the prices are all set (fixed) for standard services (no extra for DFK / BBBJ / DATY) and for a couple of extras (Anal / CIM). No need for negotiating or doing much homework. In Barcelona you really need to know the prices before entering a place, or you will be screwed, as there is so much more variation in pricing and quality.

- You always have a wide selection of girls at the FKKs (10- 30 girls in a small club, up to 80- 100 girls in the larger clubs). We are not talking about small flats with only 3- 4 girls here. Greater selection means greater chance of meeting someone who meets your specs for optics (the "dream of your life").

- The entrance fee does not only include "crappy food". That's a misunderstanding. The primary reason for having a high entrance fee is to keep spectators / stalkers / wankers away. In addition FKKs are built for relaxation with plenty of couches, sunbeds, pools, jacuzzis, saunas, showers, "restaurants" with free food, bars with free coffee, tea, soft drinks and somtimes free beer, enabling a long multihour stay. And this is where you find the greatest advantage with a FKK club: you can mingle with the girls as long as you want before deciding who to go with. Take your time and find the dream of your life. Not only for the optics but to check personality, chemistry, attitude, etc. Did I mention all girls are buck nekkid at the FKK Clubs (except for high heels and makeup)? This is so much better than to rely on a photo on a website or a review from someone you don't know.

But don't let this start a long FKK vs. Barcelona debate. I happen to love Barcelona. IF you do your homework you can - with a little effort - find girls and quality experiences that are nothing less than what you find at the FKKs. All I am saying is that you need to work a little bit harder to find those places / girls. And be prepared to be disappointed every now and then (more often than at the FKKs).

And this is why we need so much more reports from Barcelona!

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;1899431]So to re-ask my question. What can I get in Barcelona for 50.00 Euro for 30 min? So in that respect, is it comparable to the FKK's?[/QUOTE]Short answer: You won't find CLUBS that are comparable to FKKs at 50 E /30 mnts. Be prepared to pay at least 70- 90E for 30 mnts (with BBBJ and kissing) at the best places (but no or small entrance fee). A full hour is less expensive per minute (from 120 E).

The only exception AFAIK is Asian / Chinese appartments. 50 E /30 mnts (70 E /60 mnts), but this is low end, often poor selection, can be dirty and can be mechanical. And you have to be into average looking Asian ladies. Look at the sexomercado website to find those places.

Then you have independants that M88 are referring to. But that is a different game. Just follow M88's advice.

You are correct, Shark16. I should keep in mind that for many the FKKs provided exactly what they are looking for and I should be more generous. That is likely particularly true for Europeans who have seen so much of Europe that tourism in between sessions has less interest.

I perhaps came into the discussion with a certain amount of irritation at the in-your-face, low cost per session element of the German scene, because when I read the never ending proposals put forth by many radical feminists and the fucking Swedish government to limit European prostitution, they are always focusing on the low cost (including flat rate) German sessions and the AO scene with respect to vaginal and anal. The result is the current proposed law in front of German parliament that I understand would require condoms even for oral sex. Hopefully it will not pass. I have little interest in the winds of change ever blowing south to Iberia and being forced to endure a CBJ, which I hate, that I feel was a result of guys in Germany having pissed off the rest of the world by underpaying Eastern European women and getting bareback vaginal and anal. We have to have something for the future and give something back, and I do not believe that FKK and megabrothel advertisements on taxis and busses like exists in Germany is a good thing. Rubs too many noses in shit, and some of them retaliate by proposing legal changes. Sometimes keeping the scene hidden and causing johns to work a bit has some potential benefits.

That having been said, Barcelona is very fortunate to have sexomercadobcn, which provides a lot of reviews of lower cost providers. And it is good to revive some links that provide those resources. There are some great reviewers here of the more expensive brothels, KyleThompson and Addict141 to name just a few, but they cannot be expected to pay less per session just to review more places. Try informing a guy staying at one of those oceanfront hotels in Barcelonetta that he can get a hotel and meal cheaper in somewhat rural Germany and see if he starts laughing. If Barcelona is a bit more expensive because it is touristy, that is not entirely a bad thing.

And fortunately, there is not a drop off in quality at the lower prices in Barcelona. The local Catalain speaking populace, that pay a lot less than most of the posters here, like really good pussy. I should have mentioned that I visually saw Sira at the Gran Via / Farrel place and she was cute, and there is a good review of her also. This is my favorite picture of Xesca (it is really not very photoshopped), and although she is not currently available in Barcelona, it clearly indicates that some damn good quality exists in Barcelona at the 50-70 euro per half-hour sessions, even if many are true "South Americans".

[URL]http://www.sexomercadobcn.com/archadjuntos/6/2/7/6/8/372009_attach.jpg[/URL]

I suspect an appointment is better. It would be great to have an updated review of the place.

[QUOTE=DayTony;1899551]Realize my review had some holes in it. When I saw Norkys, it was 120 for the hour plus a 30 upcharge for the Jacuzzi. I also tipped her because I enjoyed her very much and would repeat or try there again. I felt the Jacuzzi was not worth the extra. Since I am new at mongering and am not fluent in Spanish that it would be better at a house than with an independent girl and language barrier.

The bar tour last week was to see what could be had at the promotional rate, if anything. I'm not afraid the spend some coinage if the quality is there, but haven't enough experience as some to feel comfortable at this point. Figured if I got taken for 50, no big deal. Just don't want to get taken over 150+. I appreciate any and all guidance from the SM's and others. Hoping to try the independent route, looking at [URL]Slumi.com[/URL], SMB, and others. FWIW, it seems that the Eurobabes are cold, the Latinas seem way more fun, but YMMV. Believe you get a little of what you give, and if you treat them decent, they'll be decent to you for the most part, or am I just wishful?

As far as the no name place, do you need an appointment or can you just walk up?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE] Is it me or are the prices high in Barcelona? [/QUOTE]It's you! Prices are negotiable with lots of independents in Barca. There are many very attractive girls in their 20's or early 30's offering really great services. Price is a reflection of service not just a number. If you only buy on price go for a SW or get a flight to Bucharest!

[QUOTE=DayTony;1898525]My buddy hit Felinas before we met up, very pricey 90/ hh and 130 for B2B massage, so I can't describe the talent there.[/QUOTE]This is a typical rookie mistake. There is a massage parlour and a brothel on the very same address with same name. Two different doors though. Obviously your buddy took the wrong door to the massage parlour. The brothel has a better selection of younger girls than the massage parlour. For those prices you would normally get BBBJ / DFK / DATY and MPOS CFS.

Thanks very much for your multiple reports. It's appreciated. In particular that an old favourite as Urgel 150 is still alive and kicking.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;1899527]I got curious if there is any validity to FKKs being less expensive on a per cum basis, so I drew two pictures of apples and two pictures of oranges on a piece of paper and scrolled through the last 10-15 pages quickly.

There are ISG reviews of Xesca and Sofia at the Gran Via / Farell place (the no name place), and the sexomercadobcn thread suggests there are currently four well reviewed ladies currently working there at the moment. Anita, Andrea, Diana, and Racquel. You have to use google chrome to translate if to English and use whatsapp to make an appointment and get directions. Big fucking deal. 50 euros for BBBJ from a South American knockout. With Xesca that was to completion.

If you want commercial, the Top Damas website lists a 30 minute session 65 euros. Maybe they have reduced the price, I thought it was higher than that. The ISG review of Bea said that included BBBJ and DATY. My concern is that the place caters relatively more to tourists and not all girls do BBBJ. But you can ask the madam as well as check the website..[/QUOTE]One thing I can say about the difference is that when, and anytime you work with an independent, half of them up sell you on the BBBJ after you've already paid them. This approach I hate! In the FKK it's implied or you walk out of the room. The service charge for the FKK's can be argued either way. Remember, you get all you can eat all night long, all you can drink and this in some cases includes beer on draft. Plus you get the facilities (sauna, steam, towels, entertainment, etc).

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;1899538]1. Here is the sexomercadobcn thread on the no name place that provides excellent service at 50 euros per half hour. Use google chrome to translate. You will need to contact the girl via whatsapp to make an appointment.

[URL]http://www.sexomercadobcn.com/farell-x-gran-via-ex-indibil-bcn-f248.html[/URL]

You can google the address to get a map.

I did a link in one of my posts to Xesca's picture. She is a Playboy centerfield level model. Most of the ladies are Venezuelan. I saw a Brazilian once at Felinas that was a knockout. I am not attracted to Brazilian some with big butts.

You can see earlier posts that have links to the devorahsuites place.

Sexomercadobcn is a better source than ISG for lower cost mongering, as more locals contribute. The difference between 100 euros and 50 euros is not that significant to most contributors to this thread.

2. I have read the Artemis and Palace threads and got the impression that 50 euros gets you relatively little at those places. I thought the Artemis minimum was higher than that, and the Palace ladies pushed heavily for a one hour session in order to provide good service. Is that incorrect?[/QUOTE]$50 Euros gets more then you I expect on most occasions, but it depends on who you are, how well you mix with the girls, how much they like you, etc. , etc. And not all FKK's are run the same way. It's true that many girls at Palace will try and up sell you for one hour but if you have any balls, you just say no "I only want 30 min! That ends the debate! But not all FKK's are like Palace, most in other areas of Germany don't push the upsell at all. It all depends on which FKK's you go to and who the girl is working at the time.

Yeah, I went to La Vie En Rose about a year ago. They had a very strong lineup from all over the world. Would definitely recommend.

Termas Time.

The percentage of indedendents I have seen who upsell BBBJ after I have booked them has been 0 percent. I book independents who have reviews and / or have clear advertisements. Not sure where your half the time figure comes from.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;1900095]One thing I can say about the difference is that when, and anytime you work with an independent, half of them up sell you on the BBBJ after you've already paid them. This approach I hate! In the FKK it's implied or you walk out of the room. The service charge for the FKK's can be argued either way. Remember, you get all you can eat all night long, all you can drink and this in some cases includes beer on draft. Plus you get the facilities (sauna, steam, towels, entertainment, etc).[/QUOTE]

This week I have been to Barcelona, and I was able to enjoy two different escorts.

First, I met Oihane Zuria.

[URL]http://www.sensmodels.com/escortsbcn/oihane712-611453240[/URL]

A Spanish escort in Barcelona. She is not the prettiest girl I've ever met, either has a perfect body. Instead, she is a friendly, nice girl, with a high involvement. In my case it was not hard sex, rather a GFE service. TWe had good connection, plus a good quality sex, I enjoyed talking a while with her. I liked her involvement and sympathy. I hope to see her again soon.

Another day I met Barbara.

[URL]http://www.girlsbarcelona.com/escort-barbara28.html[/URL]

She is a young escort, with the molded body, large breasts, operated. Ideal if you want to fuck with a morbid body, but her involvement is not as good. She is a pretty girl, although the photos in ad are retouched. The conversation with her is scarce, she is a good option if you only seek sex with a pretty girl and a nice body. Although I think that with her rate, the appointment should be better.

Returned to see if the new Peruvians was there, but no. Saw LU, of like 7 chose Luna new 20 year old Romanian. Said her second day there. Took €40 promotional. Went to room, she didn't shower. Bad sign. Sweet body, beautiful bees with puffy pink nipples and shaved but stubbly cooch. Not motivated at all. Shame, with such a fuckable body. Nothing special offered. Definitely trying an independent with GFE next.

[QUOTE=John166;1901640]This week I have been to Barcelona, and I was able to enjoy two different escorts.

First, I met Oihane Zuria.

[URL]http://www.sensmodels.com/escortsbcn/oihane712-611453240[/URL]

A Spanish escort in Barcelona. She is not the prettiest girl I've ever met, either has a perfect body. Instead, she is a friendly, nice girl, with a high involvement. In my case it was not hard sex, rather a GFE service. TWe had good connection, plus a good quality sex, I enjoyed talking a while with her. I liked her involvement and sympathy. I hope to see her again soon.

Another day I met Barbara.

[URL]http://www.girlsbarcelona.com/escort-barbara28.html[/URL]

She is a young escort, with the molded body, large breasts, operated. Ideal if you want to fuck with a morbid body, but her involvement is not as good. She is a pretty girl, although the photos in ad are retouched. The conversation with her is scarce, she is a good option if you only seek sex with a pretty girl and a nice body. Although I think that with her rate, the appointment should be better.[/QUOTE]Really enjoyed reading your honest reviews, especially the first one. Nice to see natural, unaltered photos.

On BCN escort and Brothel sites, most of the photos are severely altered. Once met a girl at a brothel who was covered with tattoos, yet on their site she had none. Reviews also are suspect with many fake ones on both Spanish and English speaking sites. Fortunately once you weed through all the deceptions, you actually can meet some decent girls. Barcelona is a great city to walk with excellent bus service and fantastic metro. There are clubs and brothels located throughput the city. Best advice I can give is to map out some of the places and start exploring.

[QUOTE=Pepe1976X;1899788]It's you! Prices are negotiable with lots of independents in Barca. There are many very attractive girls in their 20's or early 30's offering really great services. Price is a reflection of service not just a number. If you only buy on price go for a SW or get a flight to Bucharest![/QUOTE]Pepe, Where do these girls that you speak of advertise? You don't have PM so I am posting here. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1902778]Pepe, Where do these girls that you speak of advertise? You don't have PM so I am posting here. Thank you.[/QUOTE]I always bought the local Barca paper La Vanguardia. This has at least 2 pages of clubs, saunas, flats, burdels and indies. It has a digital version but never viewed that.

Next search in Google for " putas de Barcelona " or "lumis de barca " etc. You should get 5 pages of info. You then need to work out which are the websites for burdels and which are advertising sites for indies.

[URL]http://www.sexobarato.es/escorts/barcelona/putas/[/URL] a good one to start with.

[URL]http://www.spalumi.com/f70/[/URL] and other Putas forums are where indies are discusses and advertise.

As was recently discussed here you should only make short bookings with the WG and if the service is memorable try and rebook during her quiet hours so as to negotiate the price or to include more elements / sex variations at the same price. Make sure you ask for their mobile nos and you can cut out the pimps / flats / mamas / agencies and negotiate your own fees! WGs associate with WGs. Her friend might be available even if she is not!