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Spent week end in sosua. Curfew makes everything more intense. The talent is so so at best. 7 or 8's are rare. You can find something to spend the night but just barely. Girls are asking 100 plus a night. Rumbas is doing a great business in early afternoon. Followd by ahnvee. 500 pesos gets you in. Plenty of average girls. If you are a vet it might break your heart. The girls are hardcore by enlarge. High percentage of bad girls. Almost nothing went well on trip.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2478235] Almost nothing went well on trip.[/QUOTE]I am glad you tried. I would not think of touching those I saw in mid July with a barge pole. The ones that go around nowadays are locals so they can afford to be around but that means that the quality is down and more hard cores.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2478235]Girls are asking 100 plus a night.[/QUOTE]Compared to the Chica that was asking you for over 8700 pesos all night sounds like you're saving money. Olski you never go into great detail about your trips. For you to tell us nothing went well and not elaborate is not fair. Fill in the gaps please!
Nice to hear Rumba is Getting some business. Ahnvee is charging 500 pesos? Its about time! The biggest after seven spot in the Su might as well get while the getting is good.
Ive been to the DR twice within the last two months. I have yet to make that trip to the Sue. I cannot see me giving it a weekend under current circumstances. I could only imagine the selection of hard-core locals currently seeking employment.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2478170]A couple of things:
This ain't high school dating.
[/QUOTE]I don't know why you bring that up. Are you still in high school? Are you dating High schoolers?
[QUOTE=Oakie;2478170]A couple of things:
I put scam in "quotes", because a scam is in the eye of the beholder.
[/QUOTE]True. And from my eyes and many others, I don't believe those situations to be scams.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2478170]
You, like others, are injecting a false moral and economic equivalency between a monger with the financial wherewithal to travel the world to buy recreational sex from Haitians in a dirt poor third world country, and the women who sell their soul, and the only asset they have, their bodies, maybe even their sisters, daughters and mothers, to survive and feed their families.
[/QUOTE]Am I injecting false morality or are you?
The phrasing of "Haitians in a dirt poor third world country, and the women who sell their soul, and the only asset they have, their bodies" to me means you're implying that using your body for sex is somehow degrading and a form of selling your soul? Maybe you shouldn't be on this board if you feel that way. I've stated here before, I don't judge people for selling their bodies, if my own daughter wanted to do it, I would have no problem with it. Given that its safe and she's not coerced into it. Keep in mind that I don't have children, so maybe I would feel differently if I did. If I did, I probably wouldn't be here posting about how to get women to sell their bodies.
Please don't make assumptions about my morals.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2478170]
If you don't understand the basic power inequality, you may be basing your opinion on western values, where pussy has the upper hand. Or at least has power. Remember, this family were Haitians, not the Huxtables from around the corner, LOL.
[/QUOTE]I completely understand the inequality. I assume you mean the obvious economic inequality. Inequality is a fact of life. I'm not sure I can imagine a world where there wasn't inequality. I'm pretty sure in a completely equal world, most of us would not be screwing any decent girls from Haiti nor anywhere else. I completely understand I was born with privilege and opportunity. Not as privileged as others on this board but privilege none the less.
I also completely understand that it is this basic power inequality that allows us to sleep with any of these younger good looking girls that we desire. I am under no false illusion that they are sleeping with me for my good looks and charm.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2478170]
Getting a Haitian family to "just come out", to meet a foreigner in a restaurant involves far more logistics (the aforementioned clothing, grooming, travel expenses) than it does for a monger with a dedicated budget for recreational sex. If you understand these cultural differences, you can navigate them successfully.
[/QUOTE]Frankly, and I hate to sound like an ass, but I don't care how difficult it is for a family to come out and see me. Then don't come out. And I won't waste my time going out. What matters to me is that you do what you say you will do. And by the same token, I will happily do what I say I will, or with the utmost sincerity try to. That means paying what I say I'm going to pay. If a girl comes out and we have sex, I will pay the agreed upon amount.
I do understand though. I admit that I have been that guy many times, who ends up paying for everyone and it is precisely because of those experiences that I refuse to do it anymore.
Also to be fair, many times girls want to meet and go for a meal first, and if they don't want to meet me alone, they will ask me if they can "bring a friend", as long as its not a guy, most of the time I don't mind paying. Its the times when I feel like I'm being taken advantage of that get to me. Going to meet a guy and bringing your whole family without prior notice is definitely grounds to be walked out on.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2478170]
The monger who spends a little more for then the "going rate" for better pussy, is often derided and called out as a fool here, and is accused of being stupid, "spoiling the market" or not knowing any better.
[/QUOTE]I agree with those people, but I don't think calling people fools is going to stop anyone from overpaying. It is what it is.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2478170]
IMHO, this is normal behavior down here, for a dirt poor Haitian family selling the only precious asset they have in the world, to a "rich" foreigner. LOL.
[/QUOTE]Thats one way to look at it. Another way that they should be happy that prostitution is a thing and that "rich" foreigners are even willing to pay for it. Do you think they would be better off if there were no one around to buy their only precious asset? Even better, imagine this, this precious asset is renewable! They can sell it over and over again!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2478235]Spent week end in sosua. Curfew makes everything more intense. The talent is so so at best. 7 or 8's are rare. You can find something to spend the night but just barely. Girls are asking 100 plus a night. Rumbas is doing a great business in early afternoon. Followd by ahnvee. 500 pesos gets you in. Plenty of average girls. If you are a vet it might break your heart. The girls are hardcore by enlarge. High percentage of bad girls. Almost nothing went well on trip.[/QUOTE]It was even that bleak with using Tinder. Or that was just you walking around.
Interesting comments.
Particularly this one.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2478321]Frankly, and I hate to sound like an ass, but I don't care how difficult it is for a family to come out and see me. [/QUOTE]As I said before, there are as many different types of mongers, as there are chicas.
I have no interest in telling others how to roll, but in my experience, by taking a little time to understand the culture where we ply our trade, and adjust our game accordingly, we can avoid the constant pitfalls, scams and rip offs, that seems to befall some of our monger brethren, and their "buddies".
And that's the reason I am on this board. To give another viewpoint, a positive one, based on my own 11 year personal experience with Sosua.
That, and the constant implying by the same old posters here, that those of us who experience none of this drama, and consistently have satisfactory interactions and successful outcomes with the locals, that we are just happy be exploited by the local "barracudas", because we "don't know any better".
I happen to find that a little derogatory, because it ain't me that's complaining! LOL.
Peace!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2478235]Spent week end in sosua. Curfew makes everything more intense. The talent is so so at best. 7 or 8's are rare. You can find something to spend the night but just barely. Girls are asking 100 plus a night. Rumbas is doing a great business in early afternoon. Followd by ahnvee. 500 pesos gets you in. Plenty of average girls. If you are a vet it might break your heart. The girls are hardcore by enlarge. High percentage of bad girls. Almost nothing went well on trip.[/QUOTE]I'm a vet and it breaks my heart just to hear it! I don't think the sue will ever be what it was. I think we're going to have to break a new destination. Where I don't know. But we will figure it out!
Government announces medical and trip protection insurance for all visitors.
[B]Starting at the end of September, all tourists visiting the Dominican Republic will be covered with a temporary comprehensive health and travel insurance plan. The medical and trip protection insurance plan for visitors will cover hospitalization for coronavirus in the tourism destinations in the country, extended hotel stays and airline ticket changes.
Only random testing will be carried out at airports. Visitors will not be required to bring test results to travel here. The random rapid breathalyzer testing is set to start at the end of September. Once this measure is in place, the current requirement that travelers come with a negative PCR Covid-19 test or be subject to random antibody blood test at the airports will be eliminated.[/B]
During the presentation of the Responsible Tourism Recovery Plan to Covid-19 at the Presidential Palace on 25 August 2020, President Luis Abinader gave highlights of the measures being taken by the new government in the wake of the current pandemic and to ensure that the country is a safe travel destination and moves towards the new normalcy.
"Our goal is to minimize the effects of the pandemic and promote a responsible recovery that prioritizes health, maximizes the potential for job creation and economic growth, and promotes the continued sustainable development of the sector," said the President.
Abinader said that several resorts have prepared in-house medical care facilities for first care to guests. Tourists would be given preferential treatment for timely testing in nearby labs. Embassies will receive timely information on any citizen that falls ill.
Mask wearing and keeping physical distance are mandatory during each visitor's stay.
To see the entire article:
[URL]https://********/wordpress/2020/08/26/government-announces-medical-and-trip-protection-insurance-for-all-visitors/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2477854]Why did everyone get "scammed" here? They should pay for what they ordered. Unless of course the guy explicitly said he would pay for all their meals before ordering, then sure, he's a jerk and I guess they were "scammed". I would have asked for my order to go and then paid for my order and politely left.[/QUOTE]The person you are talking to lied about the details from the original scenario. The guy advised the chick before the meet that it was supposed to be for "drinks" only. That means, she was to advise those accomanying her that that is what the deal was. That wasnt the best way to get that message across. And the guy learned or was reinforced a valuable lesson. It didn't even have to be about the family members coming along. The chick could have done the same thing if she was by herself.
In the original story, the chick and her family started ordering food. And they must have already had the drinks. One of them supposedly ordered a meal to go. Seeing all of this, he decided to end the date. In other words the vetting process was complete. She / they failed. But he never said he wasnt paying for the food. The problem happened when the police came, saw the guy sitting there dining in the open. Back then dining in the open was sketchy. Then the owner of the restaurant got involved, and wanted the guy to sit somewhere in the back of the restaurant, since the police was there. The guy had already decided he was going to leave, and asked the waiter to prepare the food to go.
The dumb owner did not consult with his waiter tending to the guy, approached the guy directly, and ASSumed he was leaving for some other reason. Maybe he got pissed off with the cops, who knows? Before the waiter explained the situation, the owner had already made the situation worse, and basically told the guy to leave, and that he didn't want his business. The guy basically said, ok if that is how you want it, I'll leave. The guy and his guests ended up not getting the food to go, and not paying for the drinks. So, as you rightly pointed out. Nobody got scammed. The guy just dodged a bullet allowing his guests to order food when he advised his date it was only going to be for drinks.
His wallet got a break, so it can be fleeced another day.
And also, if that chick and her family wanted the food, there was nothing stopping them from telling the waiter that they still wanted the food, and paying for it. I think that's fair, since they werent supposed to be ordering food anyway. And nothing was stopping them from paying for the drinks drunk either. The owners beef and disrespect was to the guy, not the family. The owner didn't tell the family he didn't want their business, he told the guy. So nothing stopping the family from paying for their drinks.
And bear in mind, the dude did not bolt to get out of paying. Like the dimwit fallacy story from the individual you were talking to. Nothing in the scenario suggested his intent wasnt to pay for everything. His intent was to pay, until the stupid owner fucked everything up and told him to leave. The owner fucked up by not realizing why the guy was leaving, which didn't have anything to do with the restaurant. The individual you were talking to said the guy could have told the waiter ahead of time about it's only for drinks. True, he could have done that. But so could the chica he was with adhered to his plan and told her family the same. Is she exempt from responsibility in this matter? HELL NO. Moreover, the owner should have consulted with his waiter before fucking up business and losing a customer, and potential references.
And lastly, the dude you are talking to, has a history of entrusting p4p chicas with holding his wallet with money, debit card and even his passport. Yeah exactly, his passport. I addressed that lunacy a while back. Which is one reason why he has me on ignore to this day. I exposed a lot of holes in his stories, and his biggest problem is fabricating , lying and omitting details of what someone else writes when he cant offer a good debate or argument.
The President of the Republic Luis Abinader requested the extension of the state of Emergency for 45 days.
During this Wednesday's session, President Luis Abinader asked the Senate of the Republic to extend the state of emergency for 45 more days to combat the COVID-19 pandemic.
Senator Dionis Sánchez urged that the proposal be included on the agenda and sent to the health commission for approval.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2478400]And that's the reason I am on this board. To give another viewpoint, a positive one, based on my own 11 year personal experience with Sosua.[/QUOTE]I do not recall the story. The backdrop of this conversation that is, and no comments hence as to its degree of veracity but I second your thought. I do not live there but there are definitely positive experiences to be had with some homework and due caution. If the women are to be accused of wrongdoing, guys too have a contribution. It takes two to tango. Males are not always the saints as a few on this board insist.
After a long time I can connect to the forum, I hope you are all well my friends!
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2478444]I'm a vet and it breaks my heart just to hear it! I don't think the sue will ever be what it was. I think we're going to have to break a new destination. Where I don't know. But we will figure it out![/QUOTE]August, being low season in Sosua, and the heart of hurricane season, and the rain and heat, was never a good time for our hobby. I don't recall a good report from this time of the yea as most tourists don'are start to arrive until the fall.
On top of all this we have the CIVID crisis, so I wouldn't expect anything different, this year.
Hopefully it will pick up again, when PP airport reopens fully to foreign travel in the fall, and the tourist money starts flowing again. When we should see a lot more hungry chicas!
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2478612]I do not recall the story. The backdrop of this conversation that is, and no comments hence as to its degree of veracity but I second your thought. I do not live there but there are definitely positive experiences to be had with some homework and due caution. If the women are to be accused of wrongdoing, guys too have a contribution. It takes two to tango. Males are not always the saints as a few on this board insist.[/QUOTE]It's really an old chestnut from years ago.
We all roll in different ways.
As I've often posted here, I have had two regulars, one for 7 years and one for 4 years. I usually make that clear to put my posts in context to the average casual monger.
I don't like to carry a man bag, containing my shit, so I always let her carry my phone, the day's dinero, my passport when traveling, my keys, glasses, cigarettes and lighter, and my bank card. She takes care of the minor purchases, groceries, fruit vendors, moto conchos and stuff.
Like having a personal valet, like A-Rod. LOL.
She carries it in her Brinks Bolsa, commonly referred to as a handbag, which is as safe as the Bank of England. Try and pry that out of her clutches, LOL. Never had any shit lost or stolen. In 11 years.
(It actually came about after I had known her for a couple years, and got tired of fumbling thru my pockets in dark bars (in my old heavy partying days) to pay the tab, figuring out a propina, and trying to count my change.).
But the post prompted much derision, even outrage, from some posters, back in the day, and apparently, it still does. Some still refer to it as "lunacy", LOL.
Of course, it's not quite the same as handing over all my shit to strange P4P Sosua hookers and hoping for the best, as it was portrayed, by some, who still bring it up after all these years. And my bank card has a secret pin. In any event my bank doesn't hold me responsible for it's fraudulent use.
I ALWAYS made sure in those posts (It's on the record) to say I didn't recommend it to others, and still don't, because as the sad stories posted here confirm, some are foolish enough to do just that, and then blame the "barracuda" for ripping them off! LOL.
I can honestly say I've never put anybody on an ignore list. The truth of the matter is that I'm still on moderation for past exchanges with the OP, and I don't even control my own ignore list. And I've shrunk from any from any spirited debate here. It's all part of the fun. LOL.
Of course, everybody here is free to believe who, and what they want, no mi problemo! I'm just posting my happy journey from casual monger to happy Sosua resident, for anybody interested, and hopefully providing a little insight and info to others who may be thinking about doing the same. I get enough encouragement and positive feedback to make my time spent on this board worthwhile, but I'the hate to see the "Cancel Culture" take hold here too.
I wish all OP's nothing but happy mongering!
And, peace!
Has anyone stayed at Ahnvee lately. 2 friends of mine have memberships there. They have complained of poor accomodatianss, no hot water and frequent power failures. I am curious if these issues have been addressed. Can anyone give an update. They are printing money now. 500 pesos per person and only game in town. Selling more drinks and food then ever.