Angeles City

[QUOTE=Goferring;3006396]The only thing I would add is don't try to turn every girl into a hooker. You would be surprised the number of girls who have been offended by me offering them money. A couple have even refused to see me again because I gave them [B] too much [/B] taxi money. I realise the discussion is about FL's but this definitely applies if the guy extends his search into malls and even suburbia.Offer politely with a plausible reason: help with school; travel etc but if she says no need, then don't push it. Just wait for the hints of grandma conveniently dying, someone's birthday, or as mentioned by DG, the EOM rent being due. It will come. 😄.
[/QUOTE]If in question, I usually just ask when her birthday is, and give her an envelope, and tell her to use that to buy a cake and some food for when her birthday comes around. Hasn't failed yet.

[QUOTE=Transporter;3006460]If in question, I usually just ask when her birthday is, and give her an envelope, and tell her to use that to buy a cake and some food for when her birthday comes around. Hasn't failed yet.[/QUOTE]Good one. I'll steal that esp for once off girls or cities that I'm never going to return to.

G.

If you encounter a mixed Japanese Filipina, slim with braces, run the other way.

So I arrived in AC just yesterday (banged 2 girls, one ST for 2 k, one all night for an 895 p dinner. Civilian date). I barely got my SIM card and phone online today when I matched with a very attractive slender 21 year old girl. I thought she was another civilian as she didn't ask for money. So she came to my room and I figured she was a civilian who wanted a hook-up. I had one of those in Manila in 2023, and that was 100% a highlight (slim morena pinay with a hot ass. Fucked 3 times over the course of 2 hours). So naturally I thought I was really lucky an in for a great time.

She shows up and fucks me. Then she asked for money. I figured she was going to ask for 2 k or so. She asked for 10 k. I told her no way, I'd give her 2 k. She responded with, "I'm calling my manager. " Apparently, she claimed (a lie) to work at a KTV, but that didn't come up until one of the staff from CPT got involved later. I took her phone from her and told her that she had to leave. In the lobby, she took her phone and 2 k from me. And then the shit hit the fan.

About 30 minutes later, the cops showed up at the hotel (CPT). They took me to the station and explained to me that the girl gave them some bullshit story about how we chatted for a month and I agreed to pay her 20 k to stay the night. I told them that she matched me on Tinder today and the whole rest of the story. One of the officers said that the laws in the Philippines do not protect males, and that if she decided to file a complaint that I was going to get arrested and have to go to court. They said something about she claimed I lacerated her vagina (or something weird that I wasn't sure what it meant.

At that point the cops straight up told her that she was asking for too much, and that if she wanted to get paid she would have to meet halfway. I ended up paying another 13 k (+2 k from earlier for a total of 15 k). The officer that was interrogating me started to realize that first is was 10 k, then 20 k, then 15 k, and she didn't want to press charges just get paid. He even wrote on a piece of paper "SCAM?" and showed to to me, to which I nodded in the affirmative.

When it was all done, we were let outside. One of the hotel staff then told both myself and the officers that she did the exact same thing with a Korean guy last week. He ended up paying her 5 k + $100 or something. They took pictures of her, and now she's banned from the hotel. The cops have pictures of her too, so she's also burned that bridge. But either way, be careful out there.

For further context, I've never been arrested for anything in my life. I absolutely abhor violence, and I haven't even gotten so much as a fucking speeding ticket in over 20 years. I haven't even made it to any of the bars on Red Street yet. After tonight, I want nothing to do with P4 P. I don't even want to leave my room to eat, but my stomach is growling. Maybe I'll go sit at the rail at Phillies and watch the world go by for a bit.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;3006616]If you encounter a mixed Japanese Filipina, slim with braces, run the other way.

So I arrived in AC just yesterday (banged 2 girls, one ST for 2 k, one all night for an 895 p dinner. Civilian date). I barely got my SIM card and phone online today when I matched with a very attractive slender 21 year old girl. I thought she was another civilian as she didn't ask for money. So she came to my room and I figured she was a civilian who wanted a hook-up. I had one of those in Manila in 2023, and that was 100% a highlight (slim morena pinay with a hot ass. Fucked 3 times over the course of 2 hours). So naturally I thought I was really lucky an in for a great time. She shows up and fucks me. Then she asked for money. I figured she was going to ask for 2 k or so. She asked for 10 k. [/QUOTE]Hey Kenji,

Great info, especially for the new guys.

It's always a matter of buyer beware. I've learnt from mistakes in the past and have always named 'my price' upfront since. They can take it or leave it. Most take it.

A lot of guys get burnt. Especially the new guys who expect these working girls to be romantically involved, which is never going to happen.

Well done on the great prices you negotiated prior to your unfortunate situation.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3006634]Hey Kenji,

Great info, especially for the new guys.

It's always a matter of buyer beware. I've learnt from mistakes in the past and have always named 'my price' upfront since. They can take it or leave it. Most take it.

A lot of guys get burnt. Especially the new guys who expect these working girls to be romantically involved, which is never going to happen.

Well done on the great prices you negotiated prior to your unfortunate situation..[/QUOTE]See, that's the really fucked up part. There was no price negotiation at all. I thought I was on a date with a civilian.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;3006616]If you encounter a mixed Japanese Filipina, slim with braces, run the other way..[/QUOTE]Good report and I am sure you feel like you were rightly fucked. Just one thing: the cops must have known 20 k or even 13 k was way too high so I guess they and even the hotel might have been in on it. Their pay is crap and, in the case of the hotels they would change staff a lot. Anyway, thanks for the warning. We should drive slowly to avoid scammers, nutters and others.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;3006616]If you encounter a mixed Japanese Filipina, slim with braces, run the other way.

So I arrived in AC just yesterday (banged 2 girls, one ST for 2 k, one all night for an 895 p dinner. Civilian date). I barely got my SIM card and phone online today when I matched with a very attractive slender 21 year old girl. I thought she was another civilian as she didn't ask for money. So she came to my room and I figured she was a civilian who wanted a hook-up. I had one of those in Manila in 2023, and that was 100% a highlight (slim morena pinay with a hot ass. Fucked 3 times over the course of 2 hours). So naturally I thought I was really lucky an in for a great time.

She shows up and fucks me. Then she asked for money. I figured she was going to ask for 2 k or so. She asked for 10 k. I told her no way, I'd give her 2 k. She responded with, "I'm calling my manager. " Apparently, she claimed (a lie) to work at a KTV, but that didn't come up until one of the staff from CPT got involved later. I took her phone from her and told her that she had to leave. In the lobby, she took her phone and 2 k from me. And then the shit hit the fan.

About 30 minutes later, the cops showed up at the hotel (CPT). They took me to the station and explained to me that the girl gave them some bullshit story about how we chatted for a month and I agreed to pay her 20 k to stay the night. I told them that she matched me on Tinder today and the whole rest of the story. One of the officers said that the laws in the Philippines do not protect males, and that if she decided to file a complaint that I was going to get arrested and have to go to court. They said something about she claimed I lacerated her vagina (or something weird that I wasn't sure what it meant..[/QUOTE]Maybe you should only stick with P4P instead of perceived civvies. At least you will know what you are getting and negotiate beforehand. You will find that while hanging out at Phillies. Night time the action picks up. Also beware of the LB's unless that's your thing. Take a stroll down Fields Ave too. There's a few clubs down that way heading towards Perimeter. If you don't want to use your place check out Hilltop for a ST room.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;3006616]If you encounter a mixed Japanese Filipina, slim with braces, run the other way....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

For further context, I've never been arrested for anything in my life. I absolutely abhor violence, and I haven't even gotten so much as a fucking speeding ticket in over 20 years. I haven't even made it to any of the bars on Red Street yet. After tonight, I want nothing to do with P4 P. I don't even want to leave my room to eat, but my stomach is growling. Maybe I'll go sit at the rail at Phillies and watch the world go by for a bit.[/QUOTE]The solution was simple, out of sight, give the cops 1 k each, before the situation escalates. I did it in Pattaya once in a similar situation, and in Boracay where they were going to arrest one of the 2 girls I brought with me from AC, because she jumped in the sea naked at night, being drunk. For traffic stops I give the 200 standard bribe, without arguing.

Kenji, you were looking for a freebie and got burned. She played the game better. I don't like freebies. It always cost more. I am surprised the police didn't squeeze in for a commission. In a dispute the first resolution fee is always the cheapest.

Get over it and get back on the saddle. Quit looking for cheap or freebies. Bar's effectively deliver what you are looking for in an expedient. Manner.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;3006658]Kenji, you were looking for a freebie and got burned. She played the game better. I don't like freebies. It always cost more. I am surprised the police didn't squeeze in for a commission. In a dispute the first resolution fee is always the cheapest.

Get over it and get back on the saddle. Quit looking for cheap or freebies. Bar's effectively deliver what you are looking for in an expedient. Manner.[/QUOTE]I am never going to understand this mentality. I just don't think Angeles City is for me. I've never been much of a P4P kind of guy; just a little on the side.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;3006680]I am never going to understand this mentality. I just don't think Angeles City is for me. I've never been much of a P4P kind of guy; just a little on the side.[/QUOTE]You said it buddy.

There are plenty of 'freebies' in AC, if you have looks and game, and you're ok with spending quite a few nights striking out, alone. You should always give the girl something, whether it's a nice dinner, a bottle service table, or, I do like the suggestion here, 'money for your birthday'. But, if you're in AC and you match with a girl on Tinder who is willing to come straight to your hotel and have sex with you, there is a 100 percent chance that she will expect payment.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;3006680]I am never going to understand this mentality. I just don't think Angeles City is for me. I've never been much of a P4P kind of guy; just a little on the side.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;3006640]See, that's the really fucked up part. There was no price negotiation at all. I thought I was on a date with a civilian.[/QUOTE]So what was the conversation like before? When meeting civilians people usually discuss what job each has. So you could have easily showed police where she told you she worked at a call center, not as a hooker.

[B]There are no chicks just itching to run over and fuck the first foreign guy that pops up on Tinder for free.[/B] That country does not exist no matter what youtube tells you.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;3006640]See, that's the really fucked up part. There was no price negotiation at all. I thought I was on a date with a civilian.[/QUOTE]There is two sides to the argument.

1/. Meet a girl in a civilian setting, do some courting and she doesn't hint at sick buffaloes, then you can assume a civvy, do the deed and give her taxi money on the way out. As we said before, there is no need to try to turn every girl into a hooker.

2/. If your in a freelancer bar, sin city or she walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then nail down the financials before doing the deed*. I think it's fair to assume that every girl in AC is expecting to get paid after fucking a guy who is in town for a few days.

You actually got off quite well. The typical rule is that as more people get involved, the more costs rise exponentially. When in doubt just settle early. She asked for 10. You could have probably bargained to 5. In the end you paid 15 after more people got involved. It could have been a lot higher than that. I'm surprised more guys didn't add to the bill to get their cut.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3005469]Blitzkrieg / Flood the zone especially AC and take back what is rightfully ours.

Book your tickets ASAP and tell all your friends family and co-workers.

GET TO AC NOW.

I'm guessing Napa must be clinically depressed.[/QUOTE]ITS TIME!

Read the obituary NAPA just wrote for the Koreans in AC.

I believe in you guys, we are going to flood AC with Western mongers and US dollars (circa pre Pinatubo).

And a bunch of little mixed babies, I will be there soon, I will post a special shirt or hat I will wear so you can see me.

I will buy you a drink for helping our cause.

Together we can do this, book your flights today.

I already booked mine.