Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[QUOTE=Skip Kost; 1196034]Some related observations:

I think some posters cannot relate to the fact that not everybody who participates in the forum does so because they're sex tourists. I for one really appreciate the perspectives contributed to the forum by ex-pats and others who've actually spent some extended time in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]Can I get an Amen! Well said and I, of course, concur 100% with Skip. I know that this is a sex board, and for the guys living in their mom's basements in Detroit or other dismal places, I guess it's a disappointment that every single post doesn't relate to endless recapitulations of lubricity, venue, temperature, number of orgasms, what she said during sex, or the costs involved. But really, how many ways are there to speak about this stuff in a way that doesn't sound like pulp fiction? I applaud the cultural insights that I've gained from some of the more astute members of this board, and I appreciate the perspective they've achieved from actually taking the time to relate to some of the women as real people, and not sperm receptacles. As to those who indulge in a modest amount of "poetic license" when describing their rampant poles and the willing holes, well, the guys in Detroit need to get something from this board too.

GE

Skip Kost is very perceptive.

His comment made me think how true that is. Who is telling the most lies. Take the bar girls for example. A bar girl deals with hundreds, or thousands of men like us. These men tell lies, deceive the girls, promise them that they love her, if only she will root them now, promise that they will come back later to barfine her when they know they will not, promise to take her out of the bar, and make her a respected woman in Australia / USA / UK / Canada / Germany / etc.

Sometimes the girl goes for it, then gets dumped, or pregnant and dumped.

Even the woman who introduced me to Miss P, Mis A1 (not a bar girl) , has been waiting for months for her visa to join her fiancée in the US, but she is beginning to think he has pulled out. Miss F's sister, Miss A2 (not a bar girl) , had a foreigner boyfriend for two years, but he dumped her for a younger, girl with no children and a flawless body.

So these pinays, like wg and bargirls, deal with foreigner lies every day and night, continuous deception by foreigners, yet they keep on, creating the fantasy for the customer. It must take a great deal of cynicism and optimism on their part to keep on going.

So, like the old saying. Is it the pot that is calling the kettle black?

G.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost; 1196034]Some related observations:

As Barba pointed out in a recent post in another thread, many of the posted stories are intended to impress others. Braggadocio breeds exaggeration.

Posting these kinds of judgments about Filipinas helps to sustain a rationale that reinforces the attitude that these guys brought to the Philippines in the first place. It says as much about the monger as about the women.

In the instance of one loquacious poster, well known for his cynical statements about Filipinas, I increasingly suspect he has in fact never been to the Philippines. His references to Filipinas, other mongers, and his own exploits are so generic that they sound like oft-repeated Penthouse letters in which the nationalities, characteristics, and identities of the participants are essentially interchangeable. My hunch is he lives in Detroit in his mother's house and spends his days cutting-and-pasting words and ideas from the internet-as a way to live vicariously through other men's experiences while pretending to be on top of the heap himself.

I think some posters cannot relate to the fact that not everybody who participates in the forum does so because they're sex tourists. I for one really appreciate the perspectives contributed to the forum by ex-pats and others who've actually spent some extended time in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]

Interesting, it is not often that mongers take a hard long look into the ugly face of sex tourism and see it staring right back at them. It takes a lot of courage for mongers to admit that they are bad and do very bad things to innocent young girls who are vulnerable due to their unfortunate economic circumstances. Everyone knows that an 18 yr old girl takes no pleasure in sucking on the ancient testicles of a guy who could be her great grandfather. Some lie to themselves and others that the girls actually want to do it. They do it out of economic necessity and nothing else. Bald heads, wrinkled skin, age spots, gray hair, potbellies, cataracts, false teeth and erectile dysfunction are not the hallmarks of sexual attractiveness in any country. The girls do their best to stomach these things in order to get some money to improve their lives and that of their families. Some of them are so overcome with revulsion that they want to flee immediately after the sordid sex act. Many of the guys don't even know they're revolting and they become angry when the girls muster the courage to perform sex but have not the fortitude to spend the night cuddled with a decrepit. Having to fuck the Crypt Keeper to earn her bar fine is one thing but pretending to be his girlfriend and spending the night in his creepy embrace is another. In the West a quinquagenarian who sucks on the young pussy and fresh tits of an 18 yr old girl would be considered among the sickest of perverts right up the with Warren Steed Jeffs. In the United States, Canada, Australia, and the UK one does not find 18 yr old Filipinas lying down for grandpa to stud them after swallowing the contents of a blister pack of Viagra as though they were M&Ms ®. It's not natural. When the girls take the money and run one can hardly condemn them for it. It's really the sex tourist and the sexpats who are fresh, forward and out of order for expecting those girls to stick around for the best years of their youth watching them drool into their strained peas. Old women with wrinkled spotted skin, sagging mammaries and gray furred kunts do not sexually excite us and it is absurd, ignorant and delusional to suggest that the male equivalent excites teenage girls. After all, if you were not Brad Pitt at home then you certainly did not become him when the plane landed in the Philippines. Wake the fuck up and realize all that you have to offer the girls is money and nothing else. Play your position and keep the money flowing freely. Take the sex that you would not be getting back home and don't behave like some doddering lovesick fool when she goes off to get sexed by her handsome young Filipino stud. Face it. He can give her something you can never give her even with all the money in the world. Don't worry. She'll be back as long as you keep that wallet open.

CM and others have missed one point that can linger for years in the minds of these pretty young things. It's the mental anguish that some endure later in life from all of the ancient swinging dicks they've sucked and f'cked. I've heard of some crazy mental issues that they cannot forget about. I'm sure there's mental pain that cannot be measured and is not spoken about very often.

I'm not flaming you, but if you could please break up your posts into smaller paragraphs, they would be easier for everyone to comprehend. I agree with everything you said.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1196034]In the instance of one loquacious poster, well known for his cynical statements about Filipinas, I increasingly suspect he has in fact never been to the Philippines. His references to Filipinas, other mongers, and his own exploits are so generic that they sound like oft-repeated Penthouse letters in which the nationalities, characteristics, and identities of the participants are essentially interchangeable.[/QUOTE]Don't usually post in this thread but I wanted to comment in view of the poster in question. Several weeks ago in another thread, Cunning Stunt first commented on something I've known for quite some time; that he is a sham! With his skewed vision of Pinays, his constant rhetoric is getting very tiring so much so I've put him on ignore.

The funny thing is that he has many members here eating out of his back pocket and getting a chuckle out of it! Most senior members that have lived and traveled around the RP know the score. So I cite the old saying that opinions are like assholes, everybody has got one!

[QUOTE=Tazdevil; 1196316]CM and others have missed one point that can linger for years in the minds of these pretty young things. It's the mental anguish that some endure later in life from all of the ancient swinging dicks they've sucked and f'cked. I've heard of some crazy mental issues that they cannot forget about. I'm sure there's mental pain that cannot be measured and is not spoken about very often.

I'm not flaming you, but if you could please break up your posts into smaller paragraphs, they would be easier for everyone to comprehend. I agree with everything you said.[/QUOTE]Thanks for mentioning that oversight. Yes, all that aged salami does royally fuck them up in the head. Some girls turn to drugs to soothe the demons. Of course, the predators that feed upon their young flesh will try to deny all of this just like Warren Jeffs did. It makes them really angry to see the truth revealed. It really gets that blood pressure up and makes them stroke out. It's funny that these same perverts get worked up if some pervert back at home pokes their daughters and granddaughters in one or all of their holes.

[QUOTE=Mattrick;1196326]his constant rhetoric is getting very tiring so much so I've put him on ignore.[/QUOTE]Why didn't I think of that? It's like having a switch that automatically mutes all the TV ads, and it's reassuring that some sources of aggravation can be so easily eliminated.

Sounds like CM ate something pretty sour for breakfast.

And he seems to be a bit ignorant of the reality of filipina sex life.

The vast majority of filipinos have absolutely no sex education, which means that they know nothing about how to pleasure a woman. Almost all of the filipinas that I have talked with have never had an orgasm. They know only one sex position, which is starfish. Their experience of sex is that their guy sticks his wee wee in, wiggles around, grunts and hollers. Then pulls out, leaving her lying there, unsatisfied. This then, is what she sees as being the normal sexual experience.

Then she meets and makes love with a western guy. He pays attention to her, he arouses her sexually, he srtokes her in ways and places that she has never imagined before. And before she knows what is happening, she is convulsing uncontrollably in an orgasm. She is stunned, beside herself. And she wants more.

She knows that she will not get it with a pinoy bf, so she keeps coming back to the foreigner (s) for more.

Pretty quickly, she begins to blossom into the real, sexual being, that she is.

And she loves it. She becomes addicted to it.

And she only gets this kind of attention and satisfaction from the foreigner guy.

The experience that he has, to enable her to achieve this wonderful blossoming comes from the many years of experience that he has accumulated.

If she has to make a choice between stability, comfort, travel, fun, sensuality, sexuality, being treated as an equal, whose opinion is respected. As against a well meaning, loving man who is financially unstable, has no respect for her opinions, has no idea as to how to pleasure his woman.

Which does she choose? Which trade off?

Up to you to decide.

G.

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1196296]Interesting, it is not often that mongers take a hard long look into the ugly face of sex tourism and see it staring right back at them. It takes a lot of courage for mongers to admit that they are bad and do very bad things to innocent young girls who are vulnerable due to their unfortunate economic circumstances. Everyone knows that an 18 yr old girl takes no pleasure in sucking on the ancient testicles of a guy who could be her great grandfather. Some lie to themselves and others that the girls actually want to do it. They do it out of economic necessity and nothing else. Bald heads, wrinkled skin, age spots, gray hair, potbellies, cataracts, false teeth and erectile dysfunction are not the hallmarks of sexual attractiveness in any country. The girls do their best to stomach these things in order to get some money to improve their lives and that of their families. Some of them are so overcome with revulsion that they want to flee immediately after the sordid sex act. Many of the guys don't even know they're revolting and they become angry when the girls muster the courage to perform sex but have not the fortitude to spend the night cuddled with a decrepit. Having to fuck the Crypt Keeper to earn her bar fine is one thing but pretending to be his girlfriend and spending the night in his creepy embrace is another. In the West a quinquagenarian who sucks on the young pussy and fresh tits of an 18 yr old girl would be considered among the sickest of perverts right up the with Warren Steed Jeffs. In the United States, Canada, Australia, and the UK one does not find 18 yr old Filipinas lying down for grandpa to stud them after swallowing the contents of a blister pack of Viagra as though they were M&Ms ®. It's not natural. When the girls take the money and run one can hardly condemn them for it. It's really the sex tourist and the sexpats who are fresh, forward and out of order for expecting those girls to stick around for the best years of their youth watching them drool into their strained peas. Old women with wrinkled spotted skin, sagging mammaries and gray furred kunts do not sexually excite us and it is absurd, ignorant and delusional to suggest that the male equivalent excites teenage girls. After all, if you were not Brad Pitt at home then you certainly did not become him when the plane landed in the Philippines. Wake the fuck up and realize all that you have to offer the girls is money and nothing else. Play your position and keep the money flowing freely. Take the sex that you would not be getting back home and don't behave like some doddering lovesick fool when she goes off to get sexed by her handsome young Filipino stud. Face it. He can give her something you can never give her even with all the money in the world. Don't worry. She'll be back as long as you keep that wallet open.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tazdevil; 1196316]CM and others have missed one point that can linger for years in the minds of these pretty young things. It's the mental anguish that some endure later in life from all of the ancient swinging dicks they've sucked and f'cked. I've heard of some crazy mental issues that they cannot forget about. I'm sure there's mental pain that cannot be measured and is not spoken about very often.

I'm not flaming you, but if you could please break up your posts into smaller paragraphs, they would be easier for everyone to comprehend. I agree with everything you said.[/QUOTE]Well timed post I was told today a bipolar girl I knew who worked in the bar has killed her self, (look at the wrist of every girl you see in the bar see how many have scars) so many times I had a text or news from her that she had met her new bf who was there to take her away. They never did (they just wanted free sex). Sounds like the last one put her over the edge. I met her in a bar and I see one of her friends on a regular basis we knew she was not coping but no one was there when it happened.

This is why I get pissed off with some of the post here boasting how they get the girl for nothing, no thought of what it is doing to her. I live here with gf's and a few friends who give me benefits and for that I make it worth their time.

First we are old mean spirited bums who fuck them over.

Then we give them a experince of clean sheets, eaten pussy and they see God.

Oh, something tells me it must be somwhere in the middle. I am a old Viagra eating wrinkled skin pervert. Yet I do like to see them eat and nut. Real food, Why is life the way it is?

Good reads.

Sometimes I wonder what is worst. All the alcohol, the sex, the lack of sun (yes it is a documented factor for depressions) , the long work hours or the total boredom of repeating the same charade every time? Or the immense drain for someone that actually goes all in emotionally in several customers a month? Or maybe the lack of respect from managers, some of the customers and probably most others in society? Who can tell what factor, or what combination of factors, will do you in?

IMHO drinking every day for a year would make most people suicidal, no matter where they do it. And no, I do not buy that the prostitution itself makes people drink or do drugs. Try the other way around. Not so many jobs allows you to be pissed at work. If you have a certain personality, it is reasonable to at least consider that a person could be attracted to an environment that allows her to stimulate and accommodate this trait.

One should be careful when jumping to conclusions about what cause suicide, addictions, mental disorders, etc. Not directly arguing here about bars themselves being good or bad for a human, but correlation does not imply causation. People often use correlation to prove whatever point they need to make, and Pastafarian Bobby Henderson cleverly pointed out the absurdity in this way of reasoning when addressing the suggestion from some religious groups that the high numbers of disasters, famines and wars in the world is due to the lack of respect and worship towards their deity.

"Henderson presented the argument that global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of pirates since the 1800s. A chart accompanying the letter (with numbers humorously disordered on the x-axis) shows that as the number of pirates decreased, global temperatures increased."

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster[/url]

Another interesting link:

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate[/url]

Looks very red up there in the cold and dark vodka paradise.

Barba.

As a long-time member of the wrinkled skin brigade I have no problem acknowledging that younger women find men of their own age more physically appealing than I am. Neither I, nor most of my friends in the brigade are self-delusional. However, there's another factor, besides the money, that makes us, if not attractive, then bearable for the young pinays, and that is kindness. From what I've been told, and in part from what I've observed, many younger pinoys are simply not kind to these ladies, treating them often as sperm receptacles and in many cases sources of income. They are often physically abusive, sexually inept and often completely irresponsible when it comes to paternity. Younger pinays-particularly attractive young women in their 20s-have often been the victims of such abuse, and respond well to being treated with simple kindness in addition of course, to the money.

GE

Hello Fellow Mongers,

I met a strikingly gorgeous, slim and stacked beauty on cherry blossums and have been emailing back and forth. She lives in Zamboanga, Mindinao. I am thinking of flying her to Cebu to meet me (rather than going there). Has anyone bought a ticket for a Pinay on CP? If she flakes or tries to rip off the ticket can I get my money back?

There is that possibility that she is running a scam but she is on facebook and seems to be a legitimate volunteer nurse. I'm willing to risk it because her bikini-clad photos give me an enormous boner. I have to see if she is real.

Thanks for any EXPERIENCED replies and happy horndogging!

[QUOTE=D Cups; 1197411]Hello, Fellow Mongers,

Has anyone bought a ticket for a Pinay on CP? If she flakes or tries to rip off the ticket can I get my money back?[/QUOTE]Yes and No.

[QUOTE=D Cups; 1197411]Hello, Fellow Mongers,

Has anyone bought a ticket for a Pinay on CP? If she flakes or tries to rip off the ticket can I get my money back?[/QUOTE]Yes have bought a ticket.

She can`t turn in the ticket for money.

You can't get the money back either unless you pay for a super expensive fare which allows date changes, etc.