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[QUOTE=MrPalmerAcc;3014636]How bad is the rain in August / September? If any of you have been there in these months, was it raining hard non-stop or just some showers for part of the day?[/QUOTE]Seldom does it rain all day. Usually in spurts of an hour or 2. Often several per day but even during rainy season there are days of sunshine. If it rained all day, everyday this place would sink.
[QUOTE=ChrisLong;3014296]Score birds canceled its pool party for July two months in a row now. The excuse given is weather which is odd because the event is nearly two weeks away and the weather could be fine for the party. Many people are saying they don't have enough girls which could be the case because they only have the two bars but girls from some of the other bars also enter. Not enough girls could be the case as my Doll House girl who I see outside of the bar did not know you tube vloggers were recording the event and placing it on you tube and tik tok, when I showed her herself in the April pool party on you tube she said she was not going to do it anymore because she did not want her family to find out. Could be because it's simply not profitable anymore attendance is often low at many of the pool parties.
On another note, my XS girl one of the three I see outside of the bar just left and told me XS is thinking of raising bar fine for black tap model girls to 7 k. Ouch expensive, typical third world thinking as she told me management was saying the bar has been slow, so they need to raise prices, its 6 K now which is over $100 US, at 7 K you're now pushing nearly $200 US Ouch my XS girls come see me for 3 k which is half the bar fine price. Best strategy is to go into the bar, bar fine the girl you think is the hottest one then back in the room exchange contact information and offer her a price maybe a little above what she gets from the bar fine and have her see you outside of the bar at a discount. Problem with this is they think of you as an ATM and want to see you every day. No matter how Hot she is you get tired of boom booming the same girls every day.[/QUOTE]Yeah that sucks about the pool party. Vloggers cause problems in more ways than this. Hopefully the Philippines will crack down and stop this crap.
[QUOTE=ChrisLong;3013837]I only spent one day in Manila this year but spent a fair amount of time there last year at this time and had a lot of push back from the girls about going Bare Back had several refused so took a pass on them. This year arrived in Manila very late went to LA Cafe picked up a girl who was a sister to another girl I seen several times last year. She was initially refusing to go bare back but told her, her sister always went bare back with me, and she hesitantly agreed to go bare back. I think Manila is changing and insisting upon condom use now. Have been in Angeles since May 3rd have not bar fined in about a month now as I have a long list of bar girls who come see me outside of the bar. But during the first month I had no problem getting bar girls to go bare back. I may bar fine new girls again next week and see if there is any change in the atmosphere about going bare back from bar girls. My concern is this general reluctance and opposition in Manila of girls to go bare back will spread to the Angeles City girls.
Funny, every time I ask one of my girls if they go bare back with all of their customers every one of them to a girl says "Oh no only with you" which is 100% a lie because every guy I know here all say they go bare back.[/QUOTE]True and I get that, if they are going bareback with me I'm sure its with everyone, well maybe not everyone as some guys insist on a condom. At least though you found out Manila is getting tougher and tougher to find condom free girls. Sucks, but times are a changing I guess.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3014829]I didn't even know they sell them in PI I've never seen one in years of visits, are western feminist NGOs shipping them in?[/QUOTE]The biggest name brand here is Durex. The brand name Durex is synonymous with 'condom'. In the convenience store with your girl in line to check out, she might say "Should we get some Durex?" You ignore her, don't ask the clerk for some Durex, and seed her BB that very evening. She'll probably never mention it again.
Yup, can confirm. A few years ago when I used to stop in Makati before AC a barfine and I stopped at a 7-11 on the way to the hotel for some small nonsense that she wanted and she asked it we needed to get some condoms too. Nope, not necessary, I said, and they were never mentioned again. That's why we go to this fine country.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3014870]The biggest name brand here is Durex. The brand name Durex is synonymous with 'condom'. In the convenience store with your girl in line to check out, she might say "Should we get some Durex?" You ignore her, don't ask the clerk for some Durex, and seed her BB that very evening. She'll probably never mention it again.[/QUOTE]
I can see why men who have sex with prostitutes are a high risk group. Not so much thinking with the small head, as not thinking at all. I was going tio post rates to STI links in Angeles but they are well known, The place is a petri dish of diseases. A little self reflection might be in order.
I'm dropping by Asia for 4 weeks now. Mainly patt. Do you people think a week or two in Angeles is worth it? And if so, why?
I've been to both Angeles and Pattaya in the past, so I know the places. But question is mainly if the Koreans are still ruining the market as they were about 10 years ago, hijacking all the hottest girls for themselves. And how good it is now compared to 10 years ago in terms of number of girls as well as prices.
Pattaya seems very competitive still as long as I just play it smart and stay the hell away from walking street. Has Red Street gone the same way as Pattaya walking street?
[QUOTE=ChrisLong;3014904]As none Koreans we need to start a forum or have a web site where we can list all the bars we've been turned down because we are not Korean and then all of us agree to boycott the bar and let the owners know NO none Korean are going to enter and spend money in their bar until they end their racist practices.[/QUOTE]Why do guys insist on going where they aren't welcome? Or trying to change the world and bring back the good old days?
My solution is much simpler: don't even get on the bus. Stay in Manila. All the 5 K pussy a guy could need, available 24/7 to any white guy that asks.
I simply don't understand why guys continue to flog the same dead horse, expect different results and then complain about it.
Sure, if you're THAT guy with the Game, Cash or Contacts to have a good time, then live it up but why anyone else would go is beyond me.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Jarango;3014902]I can see why men who have sex with prostitutes are a high risk group. Not so much thinking with the small head, as not thinking at all. I was going tio post rates to STI links in Angeles but they are well known, The place is a petri dish of diseases. A little self reflection might be in order.[/QUOTE]Take your self-righteousness to a different forum, Jarango.
[QUOTE=ChrisLong;3013837]I only spent one day in Manila this year but spent a fair amount of time there last year at this time and had a lot of push back from the girls about going Bare Back had several refused so took a pass on them. This year arrived in Manila very late went to LA Cafe picked up a girl who was a sister to another girl I seen several times last year. She was initially refusing to go bare back but told her, her sister always went bare back with me, and she hesitantly agreed to go bare back. I think Manila is changing and insisting upon condom use now. Have been in Angeles since May 3rd have not bar fined in about a month now as I have a long list of bar girls who come see me outside of the bar. But during the first month I had no problem getting bar girls to go bare back. I may bar fine new girls again next week and see if there is any change in the atmosphere about going bare back from bar girls. My concern is this general reluctance and opposition in Manila of girls to go bare back will spread to the Angeles City girls.
Funny, every time I ask one of my girls if they go bare back with all of their customers every one of them to a girl says "Oh no only with you" which is 100% a lie because every guy I know here all say they go bare back.[/QUOTE]Does anyone know how to start a WhatsApp group?
To share the names of hotels bars and restos to boycott.
May I suggest going upstream a bit and don't buy anything made by them.
That just gives them money that feeds the AC problems of rascism you point out.
Don't buy anything Samsung LG Kia Hyundai don't use Asiana and never visit SK.
I remember reading recently a UN report that said racism in SK.
Is the most severe anywhere.
[QUOTE=Pistons;3014942]I'm dropping by Asia for 4 weeks now. Mainly patt. Do you people think a week or two in Angeles is worth it? And if so, why?
I've been to both Angeles and Pattaya in the past, so I know the places. But question is mainly if the Koreans are still ruining the market as they were about 10 years ago, hijacking all the hottest girls for themselves. And how good it is now compared to 10 years ago in terms of number of girls as well as prices.
Pattaya seems very competitive still as long as I just play it smart and stay the hell away from walking street. Has Red Street gone the same way as Pattaya walking street?[/QUOTE]Pattaya = metered fun.
AC = GFE.
Went into Skyfall today around 3 pm asked about two who were fairly cute and was told they only go with Koreans, and both turned their nose up at me. They kept trying to push a 19-year-old off on me who wasn't bad being 19 is always a plus. She was smiling friendly and definitely wanted to go. Can I get a decent girl in the Korean bars, absolutely 100% I can get a decent girl in any Korean bar can I get the top shelf girls who are reserved for Koreans absolutely not.
I took a pass on the 19-year-old in Skyfall she wasn't bad but just paid for the drink and left. I don't want to set the precedent that if the top tear Korean girls won't go with me, I will always take a lesser girl. I walked out to set the precedent that If I don't get what I want I leave and don't spend any money. On a side note, I always travel with 20,000 1,000 pesos in my pocket. When I don't get what I want I take the wad out and fumble through it like I'm looking for the exact amount to let everyone see the money and to let them know this money is walking out the door unless it gets what it wants.
Another side note (I see this a lot in a lot of bar) a group of Koreans walked in while I was there, they stood didn't take a seat and looked at the girls and walked out. Something I might start doing in the Korean bars, I am usually polite and buy a drink to be nice guy, but you know what happens to nice guys.
In a Kbar as soon as you walk in a manager / supervisor / momoson sits next to you and starts pointing girls out to you. If you are none Korean, they never point out the top shelf ones to you and if you ask about them, they tell you she doesn't go with white guys. But will try to push the be team or even the see team off on you. Walked past Skyfall again a little before 6 pm. And was called in by the Korean staff out front so decided to go in. Night shift starts at five pm the place was crowded I was the only white guy there everyone else was Korean. They have three rows of seats the middle and top rows were all full, so I sat in the first row. Found the quality to be just ok no stunners but a few decent ones. The best ones were probably already taken by 6 pm. All the girl's attention was on the two rows behind me none showed any attention to me a Korean guy came in and set in the first row next to me and the smiles and attention went to him. Initially no one came up to me to help me pick out a girl but eventually a manager did. He pointed to a cute little 19-year-old who at first did not seem pleased about being pointed out. I decided I would buy her a drink and just talk with her at the table she was more than willing to bar fine she was in the top tier of what was available, there were no stunners left but some cute girls and she was in that category. Was not planning to bar fine but decided ok Ill bar fine her. Nice girl in the room she claimed her first white guy but who knows.
[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3015077]Pattaya = metered fun.
AC = GFE.[/QUOTE]That's because your old and ugly there is plenty of GFE in Pattaya. AC sucks for the most part. The top chicks are gone early it's a small scene it's not worth a trip if you have limited time.
[QUOTE=ChrisLong;3015085]Went into Skyfall today around 3 pm asked about two who were fairly cute and was told they only go with Koreans, and both turned their nose up at me. They kept trying to push a 19-year-old off on me who wasn't bad being 19 is always a plus. She was smiling friendly and definitely wanted to go. Can I get a decent girl in the Korean bars, absolutely 100% I can get a decent girl in any Korean bar can I get the top shelf girls who are reserved for Koreans absolutely not.
I took a pass on the 19-year-old in Skyfall she wasn't bad but just paid for the drink and left. I don't want to set the precedent that if the top tear Korean girls won't go with me, I will always take a lesser girl. I walked out to set the precedent that If I don't get what I want I leave and don't spend any money. On a side note, I always travel with 20,000 1,000 pesos in my pocket. When I don't get what I want I take the wad out and fumble through it like I'm looking for the exact amount to let everyone see the money and to let them know this money is walking out the door unless it gets what it wants.
Another side note (I see this a lot in a lot of bar) a group of Koreans walked in while I was there, they stood didn't take a seat and looked at the girls and walked out. Something I might start doing in the Korean bars, I am usually polite and buy a drink to be nice guy, but you know what happens to nice guys.[/QUOTE]You really showed them! IMHO you can flash them your wad of cash all you want but the thicker Korean wad is doing the talking. Why even get bent out of shape over being #2? Personally if there are acceptable girls available fine, I am here to monger not to massage my ego.