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[QUOTE=Laylow3]well my wife is a local filipina girl here in the usa. a usa citizen from birth. trust isn’t a problem between us not that her citizenship has anything to do with it but i’m just saying.[/QUOTE]
I also think if your wife is a natural born US citizen, she can't own land in the Philippines.
Robb
[QUOTE=Robbaf]I also think if your wife is a natural born US citizen, she can't own land in the Philippines.
Robb[/QUOTE]
You sure? filipina's / filipino's born in usa can inherit the land of their parents and I know many born in USA that own land (or so it appears and I think and as I see it). Being born in USA makes you a US Citizen. I know a ton of people born, raised, live in Guam (true it is a territory) that own land in PI but also some from San Fran and NYC.
The qty of of people on the plane with me with dual US / Philippines passports is outrageous. Plus a person I know gave a local church a donation on got a baptism or such report for his ID cards / passports and he was NOT from that area. You and GE and others have more knowledge on legalities then I do but I'm "seeing" something that appears to go against this statement.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]You sure? filipina's / filipino's born in usa can inherit the land of their parents and I know many born in USA that own land (or so it appears and I think and as I see it). Being born in USA makes you a US Citizen. I know a ton of people born, raised, live in Guam (true it is a territory) that own land in PI but also some from San Fran and NYC.
The qty of of people on the plane with me with dual US / Philippines passports is outrageous. Plus a person I know gave a local church a donation on got a baptism or such report for his ID cards / passports and he was NOT from that area. You and GE and others have more knowledge on legalities then I do but I'm "seeing" something that appears to go against this statement.[/QUOTE]
Yes you are correct, they can inherit land, but cannot legally buy land.
[url]http://realestatecagayan.com/faqs.php[/url]
Question #5:When my children were born, I was already an American citizen. Can they inherit my land in the Philippines?
Yes. Foreign nationals (even if they were not former natural-born Philippine citizens) can own land in the Philippines if they acquire it by inheritance. These nationals should, however, inherit the property by intestate succession. Intestate succession means that the foreign national inherits the property because he/she is an heir under Philippine law. Naming one’s heir by executing a “last Will and Testament” or a “Living Will” will not work to validly transfer real property in the Philippines to a foreign national.
I also lived on Guam for nine years and understand what you are saying about the dual citizenship:(
Robb
Man, youve got some obsicles. First...you, nor your wife, can own land in the PI. So...who will you lease from? It sounds like you know NO ONE over there. Second, have even visited? I mean, like in the provinces? Third...you said you want to fuck bar girls for the rest of your life. That narrows down where you can actually live. Fourth...i browsed a few places and am seeing prices...agricultural, 52 hectars in Aklan, P65,260,000. Heres another...P250/meter....do the math. You dont even have a down payment.
man I appreciate what youre trying to do. But honestly, at this point its not doable. Not even close. You are maybe 20% away money wise, and you really need to establish some trusted contacts to pull it off. Not to mention find a way to actually buy the land.
[QUOTE=Robbaf]Yes you are correct, they can inherit land, but cannot legally buy land.
[url]http://realestatecagayan.com/faqs.php[/url]
Question #5:When my children were born, I was already an American citizen. Can they inherit my land in the Philippines?
Yes. Foreign nationals (even if they were not former natural-born Philippine citizens) can own land in the Philippines if they acquire it by inheritance. These nationals should, however, inherit the property by intestate succession. Intestate succession means that the foreign national inherits the property because he/she is an heir under Philippine law. Naming one’s heir by executing a “last Will and Testament” or a “Living Will” will not work to validly transfer real property in the Philippines to a foreign national.
I also lived on Guam for nine years and understand what you are saying about the dual citizenship:(
Robb[/QUOTE]
You need to go to law school and learn the difference between testate and intestate succession and a simple living will. Leave those answers to people like me, although the question you tried to answer was quite vague.
Trust me, I'm a lawyer.
[QUOTE=Laylow3]Yes, that's all I want to do is have a house, grow food on it, and live as self-sufficiently as I possibly can. Hopefully nothing that will cost a lot or recurring bills. (except for the continual sex with the bargirls....) My plan is for it to be totally off-the-grid and self-sustainable. I plan on modeling my farm after some farms I have seen on the Big Island in Hawai'i and other places I've traveled. That's where my motivation comes from. I have seen with my own eyes people who live off the land comfortably with no income. I am grateful to be getting some feedback here from you guys because I definitely need it. All my filipino friends here have been telling me to just go there already, buy the land, and start being a farmer. Good intentions but I know it's not THAT easy and you all are working professionals and can offer a much better picture of the difficulties I might potentially run into. Please keep them coming! :)
but ultimately, if others can live off the grid completely then so can I. I just have to have a good plan that's all.
I am definitely NOT moving to the PI with the intent of making money at all. I'm going there because I want to be all by myself and have sex with bargirls until I croak. Those are the only two reasons. I was considering just moving back to my hometown which is very much a farm community with land available (but kinda expensive at $5-6K an acre) but of course there would be no cheap hot bargirls to fuck easily.
So, it seems you all concur that with the intent to be a farmer ONLY with a house then $70K is fine. (that would include frequent sex w/ bargirls as time permits when not on the farm or busy w/ family matters) Sounds good then. Now Ratszo inquired about which province I was considering settling down at. I don't really know. This is where I could really use you all's help. I am sure there is farm land in the P.I. available at the price I want but I don't know how to find it. I've spoken with my filipino friends here and they say that land in the province isn't sold online or commercially. It is sold by word of mouth or via friends. So, how in the hell do I find the land I'm looking for from my location here in the USA? My friends also told that if I see land on the internet automatically that means it is marked up waayy above what it's worth and that I should get my wife to purchase it there in the P.I. definitely. This is all confusing and I am having NO luck finding any info on the web. What are you guys experience and advice regarding this??[/QUOTE]Dude, when I asked, 'What province', it was retorical.
There is no province giving away farmland cheap to anyone, nevermind a long-nose.
You must be thinking of Big Rock Candy Mountain Province,
"In the Big Rock Candy Mountains you never change your socks
And the little streams of alcohol come a-trickling down the rocks
The brakemen have to tip their hats and the railroad bulls are blind
There's a lake of stew and of whiskey too
You can paddle all around 'em in a big canoe
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains"
My father-in-law grows rice in the highlands Negros Is. off the grid.
There are no bar girls there. Every woman there is someone's sister.
You'd be shot dead in under a year fucking local girls.
Off-the-grid pinoy style is NPA turf. Screw around and you are a dead man.
In the Luzon highlands, no NPA, they hate commies.
They are tribal. Before they kill you, they''ll flay you alive to honor their heathen Gods.
Ratz
So Laylow, you want to live off the land and fuck bargirls at the same time... Don't you know that one should never shit where one sleeps. Or worded as the other posters are telling you, one should not fuck around in the local postal code in the provinces. Word gets around faster than you can blink. Which means that if you want to fuck bargirls and live to tell about it, you need to get away from wherever you live to do it. Which implies that you cannot be so far off the grid that you can't get away easily. Which implies that you have the funds/income to finance your getaways. Which implies that us$70k ain't going to be enough to fund it all.
Remember all local eyes are on you from day 1, there will never be a moment, let alone a day when they are not on you. You're getting some dang good advice here... give it a listen. Seriously.
[QUOTE=Finrod]So Laylow, you want to live off the land and fuck bargirls at the same time... Don't you know that one should never shit where one sleeps. Or worded as the other posters are telling you, one should not fuck around in the local postal code in the provinces. Word gets around faster than you can blink. Which means that if you want to fuck bargirls and live to tell about it, you need to get away from wherever you live to do it. Which implies that you cannot be so far off the grid that you can't get away easily. Which implies that you have the funds/income to finance your getaways. Which implies that us$70k ain't going to be enough to fund it all.
Remember all local eyes are on you from day 1, there will never be a moment, let alone a day when they are not on you. You're getting some dang good advice here... give it a listen. Seriously.[/QUOTE]I don't know if you haven't heard but mongering is very expensive. No matter if you take the Ermita "gutter" girl on a regular basis or the Pegasus show girl (if you can). The shit adds up.
You also told us that your wife is a US reared Filipina. If this is correct if she finds out about your activities and she will in one way or the other. Be prepared for an expensive and potentially dangerous divorce.
Unlike the Philippine based and reared Filipina she won't need to stay aboard a sinking ship for financial or "face" reasons.
I don't know how it is in the province as I don't venture there and have no plans to do so in the future.
As a young cat who lives in a well-to-do subdivision I can tell you your neighbors will watch your every move and everything you do and your behavior will be the subject of conversations. I think you are not white so that will compound things. Before I got my car I had a personal driver who I would always have drop me off at rather mundane spots then I would make my way to the mongering venues from there.
Not really hitting the bars any more as I now have a harem of ever changing non P4P GFs so managing that (or mongering this way) is a new game all together.
Again though all these actives take money which you will seem to be on a strict budget. Looking over your planned situation and the math I don't see how this is feasible.
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@Ratzo & Finrod - Regarding fucking the girls in my area. I guess I should have been more detailed somewhat. I didn’t mean I’d be having sex with girls in my own area where I live but rather banging bargirls in the P.I. in general. You see, my idea is this. As long as I’m in the P.I. getting to where I can bang bar girls or even regular girls is much easier than it is from here. Even if I’m in some province in the boonies, hoping on a Cebu pacific flight to AC or wherever is about $20-30 bucks so nothing really. That’s not much. Hell, I could do a weekly or monthly sex trip for a couple of days to keep me grounded and focused.
On top of that, I do know retired military who live there and also I know the relatives of my wife and the relatives of my close filipino friends here. And I have visited the P.I. before. I posted my reports of it here on the forum right after the trip. :)
@GoodEnough - yeah the legal system issue is one I’d probably have wherever I go overseas so nothing I can do about that.
@Robbaf - hmm, I’ll have to check on that one. I thought she could own land there. You see, she was born here in the USA only. Almost immediately after her birth, she was raised in the Philippines until she was 18 afterwhich she returned to the USA. So, I think she CAN own land but I’ll check to be sure since I’m not 100% certain.
@Blackangst - I think there are places that have cheap farmland but I just have to find them. (at least I’m hoping so)
keep the good advice flowing. I’m taking notes and talking to my local filipino friends here where I live about the advice I read here.
I do feel I kinda get what the deal is generally now. Basically I'll need a bit more than $70K. If, in fact, my wife can own land then all I need to do is find cheap land and I'm set. Other than that, I'll need some kind of monthly income coming in even if it is small as long as it is something. To remedy this, #1. I could stay in the military for 20 years and use my pension there OR #2. move to the P.I., establish the farm, and let my wife continue to work here in the USA while I take care of the kids and the farm (my wife is a pediatric MD if you're curious) or #3. as a last option I could just let my mother finance the whole thing only if I get into trouble financially. My parents financially are extremely stable. so in short:
1. find a way to buy the land and put a house on it
2. have a monthly income even if small
P.S. - I wonder how many of you guys have successful filipina wives not girlfriends that are taking care you...? i mean that seriously too. mine isn't taking care of me entirely but she sure does make waayy more than I do. I only ask this because I wonder does that fact change anything regarding the continual discussion of trusting one's filipina wife...?
Laylow3,
You seem hell bent on living in PI as a young guy.
Also, I have to ask you "why"?
[QUOTE=Finrod]Which implies that you cannot be so far off the grid that you can't get away easily. Which implies that you have the funds/income to finance your getaways. Which implies that us$70k ain't going to be enough to fund it all.
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I won't be spending the kind of money that most guys I know spend on my weekly or monthly trips. I've visited AC, Manila, and Cebu. Considering how much money I spent during my almost 6 weeks in the P.I., my sex excursions won't be that expensive at all, I foresee. Unless that is, I start to want very nice things as I get older or inflation kicks my rear-end. but I know I didn't spend that much money at all when I went there last year.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I don't want to rain on your parade, and I understand and admire what you want to do, but I'm not sure this is the best place to do it.
GE[/QUOTE]
You're not raining on my parade. I'm believe I'm realistic enough to acknowledge that if I honestly feel I can't achieve what I'm after in the Philippines then I will abandon the idea of settling down there in Pinas. P.I. isn't my only option of course. I'm not putting all my eggs in one basket. Just so you all know, I'm also actively looking into the prospect of resettling in South Africa or another safe area nearby. I have two colleagues there who claim the price of land is very cheap and they also understand exactly what my goals are just like you all now understand what I want to do. They say Africa is an excellent place to consider if the Philippines plan doesn't pan out. Actually, they are downright opposed to the idea of me living in the Philippines but they do know my wife so they can understand why P.I. is my first option instead of Africa. Also, Africa is considering giving African-Americans the option of dual citizenship. Not possible yet but it's a work in progress from what I understand.
IMHO, I won't invest on a property that I can not own.
[QUOTE=Warbucks]Laylow3,
You seem hell bent on living in PI as a young guy.
Also, I have to ask you "why"?[/QUOTE]
Well, I really want it to work out because she's from there and I thought it would be nice to be settle down in a cheap country that has access to cheap girls and people I know. now, of course I don't mean local filipinos but rather retired military. plenty over there. but as I said in my previous posts, I will admit without shame if the P.I. will NOT work out.
Please suggest other places/countries where you all think my plan would work out great. Not just Asia but any SAFE country in the world. I am very open to suggestions/help please. If not P.I. then what places do you all think it would work? I was looking at safe countries in Africa for starters...
[QUOTE=Laylow3]I will admit without shame if the P.I. will NOT work out.[/QUOTE]
Myself as a foreigner in different countries, and as one poster already raised to you, besides the financial constraints... very very very few mongers who are married with kids, especially living in a foreign land, will monger close to home when living in the provinces. That is a sure way to loose everything you have including your life. You think things are private, everyone knows everything in many of the provinces of SEA countries. Gossip is the local sport.
You're looking for a CHEAP place to do your plan and monger... any place will be a 3rd or 4th world country for that amount (and no matter what that amount is not sufficient IMHO) and there are their own unwritten rules and laws in those countries. I'm from a 4th world country and any outsider coming in faces a difficult up hill battle even if our Foreign Investment laws look attractive. What is in paper is not the real story. And if the foreigner is found to hurt or cheat on a local wife, hurt cheat a local person, not pay off or honor or respect the right people, there are serious repercussions. And I would laugh at any foreigner who came here with 70 K as he will be broke in a moment.
For example I can go without paying my taxes for 10 years without penalty but if you do not bow below the eye sight of a higher up or show disrespect to a leader you could find your home broken into and destroyed. Do NOT pick up and move to a country that you hear about or read about and expect it to be heaven. The grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence. You can spend 70 K just travelling to find the right country let alone the right province and such.
For 70 K, living off land, moving to a foreign land, screwing hot girls, while having a family... look for fantasy land... If it is as easy as you make it sound to be then everyone would be doing what you propose. And having your wife stay at home and work to support your mongering in her national country... hahahahahaha that's funny... good luck....
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]For 70 K, living off land, moving to a foreign land, screwing hot girls, while having a family... look for fantasy land... If it is as easy as you make it sound to be then everyone would be doing what you propose. And having your wife stay at home and work to support your mongering in her national country... hahahahahaha that's funny... good luck....
very very very few mongers who are married with kids, especially living in a foreign land, will monger close to home when living in the provinces.[/QUOTE]
Well, with the exception of living off the land, you all do it, don't you? I mentioned that I could continue to save and then after I do 20 in the military I could take my pension and move there. DragonSlayer has a family (filipina wife & kids), his own place there, and beds hot girls. Warbucks inquired why I'm so intent on settling down in the P.I.. Another reason because others have, and have recommended that I follow suit. My only difference with them is that I desire to live off the land totally and I guess I need to save up more funds obviously. :) I realize now that $70K won't be enough so I'll be sure to save up probably at least double that before I make the definite transition there for good. At least another 5-6 years then that is if I choose the P.I. which I'm sure I will.
I must also add that having a farm in the Philippines should also be much cheaper than having a farm here in the USA. The cost of a purchasing a horse, pigs, farm animals is much cheaper there than here by far. I get the feeling that a pessimistic air is circulating unnecessarily. Let's say I just screw it and just get "cheap" land here in the USA in a place like Alabama or Mississippi. Is the danger associated with the "fearsome" tribes that were mentioned here earlier by someone really that different than than the racist rednecks in the backwoods of those southern states? Will the law be on my side since I'm not Caucasian? There will be danger wherever I go. I am glad to get some great advice here but I see it (my plans) as totally possible. I just found out that my wife CAN apply to obtain dual citizenship which she is going to apply for soon. So, I just need to find the cheap land in a decent area. I'm sure it's there. Everything else is general and can be said about almost any place. no matter where I go there will always be something bad that one can ***** about but it all boils down to is it worth it. I myself have to make it work. no-one ever got anything worthwhile by taking the easy route. but I will take your advice and #1. be extremely careful with the mongering #2. make sure we have a couple of thousand dollars saved up after we pay for the house/animals and the land #3. have my wife get her dual citizenship. Thanks guys!
I could be wrong but living in Luzon and mongering in the Visayas shouldn't be a problem. but I could be wrong. but even if I banged just one girl every month or 2 months then that would still be better than being here in the USA. or you guys could just be trying to discourage me from settling there to save all the sexy bar girls for yourselves. Not going to work, I will be there soon after only in a couple of years. haha. :)