Melbourne

[QUOTE=Piper1]From my small sample last night, it was disappointing to see almost all the WGs in 'houses' are older overweight Thai women. Things sure have changed.[/QUOTE]Well obviously you don't know where you are going.

There are plenty of brothels with beautiful women, and plenty non asian as well.

[QUOTE=Westerby]I agree. We all get the picture and I have live more than 10 years in southamerica and asia on expat sallery, so I know the difference. However, complaining about it won't change it. It is a bit like the drug addict complaining that see is too expensive on some forum. Won't make it any cheaper. Only more competition can make it cheaper. Or less demand but thay won't happen. Let's get on with the real discussions.

Ok, this is my issue. I love big firm boobs. And so far I have found zero in melbourne. I am not after FS but rnt with some touching allowed. Does anyone know if such a thing even exists in Melbourne?[/QUOTE]Try

[url]http://www.arabiangoddess.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Bell 37]My experience has been that on a like for like basis mongering is more expensive in London and Canada/USA than here, though now with the strong A$ some prices may be more comparable but I din't believe less. One thing about Melbourne is that the cost to add oral and FS to a basic nude massage and HJ is usually only $20 or $30. In Canada they seem to want another $100+. ISG reports from those forums seem to confirm this.

It is hardly realistic to think that Asian SW's will pay to travel here, pay Australian rents and living costs and charge the same prices as back home.

Brothels will often have the the occasional stars who are the first pick at intros and these girls will get lots of clients and big $. But from my discussions with WL's a lot may only get 3 bookings per shift and with the house taking almost half of the fee they only just make a living. Certainly over the past 20 years brothel prices have increased by a lot less than average wages. 20 years ago lots of brothels offered 15 minutes of full service for $55. Westminster Secrets and Southern Comfort now offer similar short time full service for less than $70 and in quality premises.

I know a lot of mongerers like plenty of variety but when I find WL's that I really enjoy I tend to stick with them, especially when I can negotiate to see them at home at a discounted price.

As for the non pro scene in Melbourne, I suppose this is the free market at work with the men outnumbering the women thus enabling the women to be choosy.

Cheers[/QUOTE]I lived in Singapore for three years and believe me its not cheaper than Australia, in fact its more expensive. For starters, Escort agencies are way more expensive and if you are not careful, they only let yiou cum once in the session. Yes you can go pick up fillipino women in Orchard Road, but that is also not cheap.

We are stuck with the prices in Melbourne, so either suck it up or don't pay and don't complain. (not you Bell37, I mean in general)

[QUOTE=Mike Melb]Blonde, late 20's, lovely body and a set of new boobs.[/QUOTE]Thank you Mike Melb, I've been craving something different from the asian scene for ages!

[quote=dodgy asian]true in many ways but in the end of the day complaining to the ladies won't really change much, if it was not for the 'non western' staff servicing us aussies living here then the rate could very easily be higher! once again its all about supply and demand, if you won't pay for a certain service then someone else will. and because most of the wg's are getting so much work here they don't really have to try harder than their overseas counterparts. in the end of the day our salaries are good in australia, i dare say better than most 'non western' countries too, we also have one of the most reliable financial economies in the world and we can afford the little treats in life that most other countries cannot afford.

i also believe that the prices here are expensive, but am i going to whine and gripe over the market price to the wg's that handle my package? no! if the price is unreasonable i'll leave, there is no reason for me to abuse the staff or the management, much like an expensive restaurant in the city, if i cannot afford it then i leave. hopefully in time these prices might drop or the service gets better (although i doubt it) service generally in australia suck big time(especially the caucasians), our labourers in this country are mostly lazy, inflexible and expensive anyway, how can the sex industry be much different.

at the end of the day if i want relief, i will pay for it ($130ish/30mins) if i want a massage, i'll pay for a massage if the girl interests me than i pay $20-$50 for normally a very good hj that would put 99. 9% of my partners to shame. also i recon that if you think that we pay too much in melbourne, than i recommend doing some research into how much peeps pay for servicing in japan, taiwan and singapore. it way more expensive and the cost of living is actually not bad compared to australia.[/quote]

i wasn't suggesting that we complain and i never will complain unless the service given is blatantly different than that described. anyone would do the same in that circumstance or - as you said - simply not go back there.

what i was getting at is that in any country, especially here, we should strive for the best service and not just assume that higher price = better service. the type of service i mean are the escorts who charge $500+ for an hour of fun. many men can afford that price but many can't and my main advice is to shop around. if we start gravitating towards the better places in price:service ratio, then providers may start to take note and a shift happens.

[QUOTE=Martian001]Hi Hey There / Amdonger,

Amdonger: Sorry for the incomplete typing, it's supposed to be Paramount.

I normally see Janet in contrary to other members' comment about her, I find her very accomodating. She gives wicked hard massage especially if you like back walking and the reach to the sack is one of the best executed move (to my knowledge) which made me came back for more. I now see her occasionally outside of the establishment for both massage and extra activities.

Other than her, there are Lek and Jasmine which all three are good friends. L*k is the chubby one with excellent hard massage and skillfully done BBBJ, I don't actually know if she does any more than that as I've never asked for more. Jas*mine is a cutie with another good massage but she's not so skillfull as the other two in other regards.

If you don't mind chubby girl, try Lek a few times and be good to her and I'm pretty sure that she'll offer you cash strapped asian students for overnight.
I tried it once and found it a bit awkward, she was very shy and I had to teach her some basic manouvers as well but thinking back, it was a beautiful.

All these made me excited so I might drop by tomorrow. Haven't checked in for more than a month now since I found this site.

Cheers,

Martian001[/QUOTE]


Been a while since I have posted given constraints with work so I am trawling through the last few months I have missed.

I have been quite busy mongering but thought I would comment on a few posts where I had two cents to add.

Agreed Lek is a little chubbier but a great set of tits and is probably the best BBBJ I have enjoyed at Paramount. Lek from memory also lives with that super cute day time reception girl (Malaysian I think?) Not sure if she works there still, although the night reception girl who is Thai is also pretty cute but nowhere near as confident.

I used to see Janet as my regular but she became pretty pushy with me and never really gave much beyond an excellent tug and massage. I also notice switching to another girl from a regular will cause some dislocation within the group as they keenly follow who is stealing their punters.

Final straw for me was her approaching me in the street and ringing my phone far too often, obviously this isn't ideal for the average punter.

I must admit the move that Janet pulls with that upper thigh massage is quite impressive - perhaps I will give it another chance!

[quote=dodgy asian]this place is pretty good, most the girls are very good at their jobs and i've always been offered hj's. i've only been offered more than a hj a couple of times but i wouldn't really go for it anyways because the prices for the massages are fairly pricy and could just get fs with hotter chicks elsewhere when you add the extras (the massage has priority when i'm here), but there is also a sauna, showers and a chill out area afterwards which is pretty cool.

here's the run down of the girls working here that i've had enjoyed,

lucy

looks 5

body 5

massage 10 good mix of soft and hard

skill 9 strangely arousing

chinese late 30s, slightly plump, friendly, very keen. will do breast massage for extra $$. probably my favourite, far from the youngest or prettiest but the best massage in my opinion and has a great attitude. apparently is away on holiday, but its been a while now (last september i think) if anyone knows when she is back, please. msg me or post it.

jessie

looks 6. 5

body 8 great tits

massage 8. 5 pretty good, soft. just needs more pressure on the pressure points.

skills 7 not bad, could be better

chinese mid to late 30s long hair, slender with great natural tits and nice hair. she's a little stiff in the friendly department but warmed up real nice the second visit. maybe pushes a bit too much for extras.

julia

looks 7

body 7 never saw her undressed

massage 9. 5 swedish style, just only a touch harder would be perfect.

skills 7. 5 she was actually pretty good, she just needs to show a tad more enthusiasm

an aussie lady, brunette shoulder height hair late 30s. nice figure but never offered (nor i did i asked for) more than hj, i guess that i was still in shock that paramount actually has an non-asian working there and even offered hj too. not overly friendly and she seemed a bit too business like for me.

angel

looks 5. 5

body 6

massage 6 way too hard

skills 6

chinese mid 30s, short brownish hair not really chubby just on the bigger side. fairly ordinary massage, but she hits all the pressure points perfectly and is very hard, even after i keep telling her to soften up, but i guess some guys would like that kind of massage. nice enough but once again a tad business like.

just for the record, the receptionist normally starts work at 11am, i pass her a lot on our way to work. i'm pretty sure that she is chinese, i'm honkie and i think that i've heard her speak chinese before. and no, she is not one of the masseuse there, and hell yes, she is damn fine.

girls that i'm yet to try but i've found the names for your convenience, any info would be appreciated.

janet – chinese, mid 20s uni student apparently, pretty hard massages and very business like

sophie – chinese

tiger – thai

lek – thai

bee – thai[/quote]

a few comments here

- lucy is definitely older but first visit i had her on all fours, naked and a pretty solid bbbj even post the installation of the little peep windows. although they have dealt with this by putting a hook above the window where the girls hang your robe.

- angel was the first ever girl i saw, probably 3 years ago or more. she really warms up and gives a great service once you have become semi reg, although her looks are pretty average and not a good body. however as with everyone i have dealt with so far you always get an excellent massage.

- jessie was my favourite up until recently, she is really nice girl and i think one of the best looking. fourth visit i supplied condom and got an excellent service and she gets seriously horny, pretty much anything goes but took some time and a pretty generous tip.

- janet i have commented on in previous posts, whilst she is better than average looking i think she is on the pushy and greedy side and offers very little beyond a great massage and good hj technique. although i have been for after dinner indulgence outside para which was just ok imo. much prefer to spend the $ on a real wg

- bee is a nice girl, thai but pretty plump and has quite rough hands. i am not hugely fussy but i actually avoid her as she really doesn't do it for me visually. great girl, nice attitude and gave me two pops on first visit - but just not that great looking.

- lek i have also previously commented, chubbier thai girl with good english. she knows exactly what is going on and will push for better $ where she knows she can get it. i have seen her a few times purely to try and get something happening with the receptionist - agreed she is seriously cute.

- june is my new regular, thai girl who isnt fat but not skinny either. excellent attitude and quite a cute face. basically a refreshing change for me and not overly pushy on the $ either.

Good to see some spirited debate going on in the forum - must admit my lack of posting and recent mongering is primarily due to a deteriorating interesting in RnT.

I am primarily only interested in Asian women so that means many of my reports and experiences are relating to Asian parlours or the usual RnTs discussed on this forum.

If the suggestion that punters and mongers overpaying ruins the 'scene' or industry for others is true then I am probably a serial offender. I have paid as much as $250 on top of the cost for a 90 min massage at Paramount for example however I felt I got every cent of value and (without having my head completely up my arse) earn good money. Furthermore I have zero expenses in terms of family etc so spend every cent on entertainment.

I used to see a really cute Chinese girl at Nicolson St on a Monday and Thursday - not sure if she is there anymore but would be interested to hear if she is still around.

I am mainly hitting Paramount these days given I really enjoy the massage and most places such as Madden and Market St give a crap massage.

One really random place that delivers everytime is Toofs in the CBD - dead ugly Chinese woman however there is everything on the menu and sometimes she has a friend working with her who is about 20% less ugly and much better with the BBBJ.

In terms of Privates and Escorts that is probably the reason I have let a lot of the RnT scene and my usual brothels reduce. After hitting the RnT and brothel scene for a solid 12 months I have now accumulated a core list of 10-12 girls that I can see either at hotels or at my place when the opportunity arises.

2 are ex Westside and are 8/10 Thai girls who are on again off again with Sugar Daddy's - I usually hear from them when things are a little tight $ wise and we usually meet at a club / bar and things end up in a really good night. Now that I am regular with these two (who do double as well as they are good friends) I usually get away with $1000 each - this will be say 10pm to midday the next day with a complete GFE.

I have an ex Spearmint stripper on the books who is also Thai and has a fantastic body with a mediocre face. I can usually get away with her for $700 on the overnight but always need to spoil her to a seriously good restaurant and a lot of booze to get a huge night out of her - I had a huge week with her recently and I got a free night as I think they sometimes think they may have scored themselves the real thing. I always take a freebie but you need to balance this as you don't want stalking / head-case material.

I have 4 current WestSide girls that I contact prior to visiting and they are 80% of the way there on allowing home visits - they are still quite new and scared of Mummy. Mummy knows I steal them eventually as she berates me when I return after a 3 month hiatus when the regulars return to Thailand. Once of my favourites at the moment is the old Miko from Ji-Li, not sure the name she goes by at WestSide. Good to get a change from Thai girls.

However right now my favourites are far and away a couple of girls from Gotham City and would really like to get some feedback if anyone has some experience / suggestions for Gotham.

You are looking at about $400 h/r at Gotham once you incorporate the 'deluxe' fee and agree to the rip off that is the Penthouse as it allows you to skip the wait on a Fri/Sat night. I found two Thai girls (perfect English however) that I rate a 9.5/10 in looks and service.

I no longer see these girls at Gotham and pay ball park ~$1,500 a night at my place or hotel and that will include the works with a seriously good night out and some great company and sex. These girls are a cut above anything else I have experienced however I think one is looking to move overseas and the other appears to have found a 'boyfriend' so I am getting fewer responses to booking requests.

My point here really is every great contact and regular WG I have cultivated is purely a result of treating the girls better than the drunk, rude, un-hygenic scum bags you see in every club, bar and brothel. This isn't all about $ - some respect, humility and good manners goes a long way and I have seen this via quite a few 'freebies'.

Best example of this is more recently I got my stripper regular so drunk at dinner she wasn't up to much more than vomiting all night for my hard earned cash. However she felt so bad and concerned I was going to never see her again she saw me the next two nights for nothing plus made me breakfast.

I am basically rambling now however I am keen to explore some new contacts out of Gotham City and the Boardroom so if anyone has some suggestions I would love to hear them.

[QUOTE=Mike Melb]Try

[url]http://www.arabiangoddess.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Hi Guys,

I tried the Arabian Goddess and it was a total waste of money. The girl I got was an Indian girl and her boobs weren't that big. Maybe there are more than one "ArabianGoddess". Also she didn't allow touching, fuck, waste of time.

After all the the continual talk about this place I decided to try it out for myself and scored Janet on my first visit.

She's been written up a number of times and my experience pretty much falls in line with the comments, good looking mid 20s PRC, not skinny, good hard massage, she came up with a 'touch me anywhere for $100' which I thought was pretty steep followed by a HJ offer for $50 so I decided to enjoy the massage and the atmosphere instead. It's a reasonable place to relax, probably go there more often if the service was as good as the massage.

Wasn't my day, I missed out earlier at another place and felt like relaxing rather than working out myself.

[quote=tor****99]hi guys,

i tried the arabian goddess and it was a total waste of money. the girl i got was an indian girl and her boobs weren't that big. maybe there are more than one "arabiangoddess". also she didn't allow touching, fuck, waste of time.[/quote]
thanks for testing her out. so the hunt for good firm big touchable boobs is still on.

i'm not interested in fake boobs, and a good size is c-d. cheers

[QUOTE=Mike Melb]Well obviously you don't know where you are going.

There are plenty of brothels with beautiful women, and plenty non asian as well.[/QUOTE]I'm sure there are. I'm only in Melbourne for a few days on business, so not much time for a bigger sample. But I lived here for several years in the 'good old days' so I do know where to go. I've been to them all before, from shagging in the bushes of St Kilda beach to the lust-chambers of the Boardroom, swingers clubs, pick-ups in bars, online dates, swingers clubs etc.

But I am kinda proud of my part in stirring up the standard of this thread from a sleepy "Where can I get a handjob for under $100?" thread, to a proper monger's thread. :D
___

Poker Broker - great post (for great big money!) For $1,500 to $2,000 a night, you could instead have an "all inclusive" week in Bali or Thailand - flights, accommodation, hot babes 24/7 for a week, great food, and change left over. Still, if you're a busy rich man, good for you.

[QUOTE=Poker Broker]Good to see some spirited debate going on in the forum - must admit my lack of posting and recent mongering is primarily due to a deteriorating interesting in RnT.

I am primarily only interested in Asian women so that means many of my reports and experiences are relating to Asian parlours or the usual RnTs discussed on this forum.

If the suggestion that punters and mongers overpaying ruins the 'scene' or industry for others is true then I am probably a serial offender. I have paid as much as $250 on top of the cost for a 90 min massage at Paramount for example however I felt I got every cent of value and (without having my head completely up my arse) earn good money. Furthermore I have zero expenses in terms of family etc so spend every cent on entertainment.

I used to see a really cute Chinese girl at Nicolson St on a Monday and Thursday - not sure if she is there anymore but would be interested to hear if she is still around.

I am mainly hitting Paramount these days given I really enjoy the massage and most places such as Madden and Market St give a crap massage.

One really random place that delivers everytime is Toofs in the CBD - dead ugly Chinese woman however there is everything on the menu and sometimes she has a friend working with her who is about 20% less ugly and much better with the BBBJ.

In terms of Privates and Escorts that is probably the reason I have let a lot of the RnT scene and my usual brothels reduce. After hitting the RnT and brothel scene for a solid 12 months I have now accumulated a core list of 10-12 girls that I can see either at hotels or at my place when the opportunity arises.

2 are ex Westside and are 8/10 Thai girls who are on again off again with Sugar Daddy's - I usually hear from them when things are a little tight $ wise and we usually meet at a club / bar and things end up in a really good night. Now that I am regular with these two (who do double as well as they are good friends) I usually get away with $1000 each - this will be say 10pm to midday the next day with a complete GFE.

I have an ex Spearmint stripper on the books who is also Thai and has a fantastic body with a mediocre face. I can usually get away with her for $700 on the overnight but always need to spoil her to a seriously good restaurant and a lot of booze to get a huge night out of her - I had a huge week with her recently and I got a free night as I think they sometimes think they may have scored themselves the real thing. I always take a freebie but you need to balance this as you don't want stalking / head-case material.

I have 4 current WestSide girls that I contact prior to visiting and they are 80% of the way there on allowing home visits - they are still quite new and scared of Mummy. Mummy knows I steal them eventually as she berates me when I return after a 3 month hiatus when the regulars return to Thailand. Once of my favourites at the moment is the old Miko from Ji-Li, not sure the name she goes by at WestSide. Good to get a change from Thai girls.

However right now my favourites are far and away a couple of girls from Gotham City and would really like to get some feedback if anyone has some experience / suggestions for Gotham.

You are looking at about $400 h/r at Gotham once you incorporate the 'deluxe' fee and agree to the rip off that is the Penthouse as it allows you to skip the wait on a Fri/Sat night. I found two Thai girls (perfect English however) that I rate a 9.5/10 in looks and service.

I no longer see these girls at Gotham and pay ball park ~$1,500 a night at my place or hotel and that will include the works with a seriously good night out and some great company and sex. These girls are a cut above anything else I have experienced however I think one is looking to move overseas and the other appears to have found a 'boyfriend' so I am getting fewer responses to booking requests.

My point here really is every great contact and regular WG I have cultivated is purely a result of treating the girls better than the drunk, rude, un-hygenic scum bags you see in every club, bar and brothel. This isn't all about $ - some respect, humility and good manners goes a long way and I have seen this via quite a few 'freebies'.

Best example of this is more recently I got my stripper regular so drunk at dinner she wasn't up to much more than vomiting all night for my hard earned cash. However she felt so bad and concerned I was going to never see her again she saw me the next two nights for nothing plus made me breakfast.

I am basically rambling now however I am keen to explore some new contacts out of Gotham City and the Boardroom so if anyone has some suggestions I would love to hear them.[/QUOTE]

Holy shit! $1500 a night. Well if this is serious I can totally relate to Lexb's posts now, out of control!

And someone mentioned Melbourne cheaper than Singapore, I doubt it. I can just turn up to Singapore, and in the last 2 years I have obtained overnighters for 200SGD. Think you might struggle to do that in Melbourne. In fact if this post is any guide it is $1000AUD plus!

I guess if you are seriously rich well maybe it is not that much. But at those rates maybe you would be better off banking this sort of cash and in no time you could be based in Thailand banging multiple different girls every night and freshening up by the pool with a beer during the day?

Heh, for $1500 a night I am imagining the absolute depravity you can get up to in Angeles City or Pattaya.

Barebacking an 18yo virgin for a start.

And that is only the start.

Oh boy. The perversionometer just goes off the scale imagining what you would get in AC or Pattaya for that money.

OTOTOT. :)


However, I do understand that if you can't get to Pattya or AC then you have to pay Melbourne prices.

The problem in Australia is that let's say that someone is unemployed and wants to work in the 'industry'. They lose 50% to the agency every job. They then lose 50% of the balance to social security reducing their benefit, the lose 30% in tax. All in all, they can do a job for $300 and end up with $45.

That is one reason why prices won't go down. I can't see any women doing it for much less than that. (it is probably why you get scrubbers at even the $250 price mark). The tax man and social security aren't going to take a smaller cut, and I don't imagine the agencies are going to reduce their cut either (out of which they pay tax and other costs). So really, mongering in Oz is really only for those that can't get out to those countries where the value really lies or can't get a private arrangment of some sort.

That is the nub of the problem. We mongers pay $300 and expect $300 worth of service. The ladies in Oz get $45 and quite rightly feel they should only have to give $45 worth of service. If women working got $300 out of every $300 we paid, I figure there would be more women working, and those would be much happier to give a good service. Too many others are getting a slice of the action to the detriment of the ladies and the clients.

However, having been places OS where you can get some really nasty stuff with two girls then have a few beers by the pool while working up to the next two ladies who have to be even nastier to arouse a bloke's second time interest for less than the price of an hour in Oz (with someone in Oz older and uglier from the same nationality), I can see why some punters baulk at the prices.

These guys save their pennies for experiences which have the perversionomenter banging off the end of the scale.

[QUOTE=Westerby]Thanks for testing her out. So the hunt for good firm big touchable boobs is still on.

I'm not interested in fake boobs, and a good size is C-D. Cheers[/QUOTE]You say you don't need FS but AMP's are probably not the best place to look for big natural boobs. Bodyline at Yarraville is a possibility but at the top of the R&T price scale. Barbarings in Collingwood is another possibility and less expensive.

Not sure what your other requirements are (young or mature) but with a few phone calls to non asian brothels you should find whatever you desire.

Best of luck in your search.