Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=Henryv;1130667]Please tell me hat do you mean by: "as long as you act not strange?" Thank you.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I mean as long as you adopt to the surrounding of a 3rd world country, not walk around with jewlery, big camera.

Michael

Thank you (& Michael 73) , appreciate the input. Will check out the Blue Tongue.

I post primarily on the Philippine / Thai board, for some reason it seems difficult to get info on this board.

[QUOTE=AlLostInSpace13; 1130871]First off, Flamingos is only a 3 star hotel, so if you insist on creature comfort then this is not for you. That being said, I find that the Flamingos is such a popular monger hotel, the girls are completely relaxed and feel at home. And unless you really play your cards wrong, you wouldn't be overcharged.

There have been bad trip reports on the web regarding Flamingos, the most serious one being money disappearing from the in-room safe! I can say that I've stayed at the hotel twice after that report aired, but that never happened to me, so I suspect it was either a false report or some how an isolated incident. (and don't forget to tip your chamber maid.)

A new club opened up right next to the hotel last December, so make sure you ask for a room on the other side. Flamingos is located at the heart of party central, so the area is always busy and hence you'll be safe, from mugging, that is. And BTW, that new club next door is a gay club, so forgetaboutit.

And if you want more than 3 stars in the same general neighborhood, I would suggest the Blue Tongue. And that is located right next to the Walkabout.

Spaceman[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Faidenk;1130632]No Viet girls working at St 136 or 104, none that I know of, all of them are Khmers. And yes, if you want cocksuckers, the Viets are a safe bet, found at most KTVs but not all. Some of the 3 tier KTVs specialise in Viet girls. Lots of Viets at Martini too, discos too like Casa.[/QUOTE]To Faidenk,

It been a few yr since I been to PP and there are less viet girl than before and many brothel have closed down, about 10 yr ago my first time in pp it is hard to find a khmer girl.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Henryv;1131040]I post primarily on the Philippine / Thai board, for some reason it seems difficult to get info on this board.[/QUOTE]Main reason if you are familiar with Phils and Thai is that there is alot more going on at those locations than here in Cambodia, especially after all the raids of the last few years here.

Just as a note, there may be more girls available for P4P in just Pattaya alone than ALL the mongering venues thats open to us foreigners in this country.

[QUOTE=Henryv;1130667]Please tell me hat do you mean by: "as long as you act not strange?" Thank you.[/QUOTE]Walking around drunk and staggering around in a dark street.

Also, Wandering around in unfamiliar areas in a dark street at night (and just to let you know that MOST streets in PP aside from the main Blvds are dark and unlit).also fits the bill here.


Trying not to make yourself a target is what most here are advising.

FZ

I've often walked around near Flamingo's in the middle of the night butt naked with a raging boner while wearing gold chains and expensive watches and snapping photographs with my DSLR camera. Never really had any problems.

[QUOTE=Evianist;1131313]I've often walked around near Flamingo's in the middle of the night butt naked with a raging boner while wearing gold chains and expensive watches and snapping photographs with my DSLR camera. Never really had any problems.[/QUOTE]The Flamingo area (which includes Walkabout, Pontoon, Shanghai, Heart etc) is relatively safe.

The area has many people around, even at 3 AM. That's the only advantage of having those pesky moto-dope drivers around. There are many eyes on you. Hence it will be relatively safe to walk around drunk in that particular area late at night.

That's one advantage of PP over Tijuana or San Jose, Costa Rica. In Tijuana or San Jose, the local people will just look at you getting mugged; they don't even call the cops. In PP, they hate the criminals; they should still want to beat up the muggers (if they have the numbers).

I feel relatively safe walking around drunk when there are people around.

But that being said, remember since you will have more than $5 in your pocket, we barangs are a target. If you are drunk, you are more of a target. If you wear flashy clothes / jewelry, you are more of a target.

I wouldn't walk drunk late at nite on deserted streets. Not as dangerous as it would be in the Philippines, but I still wouldn't do it.

A real danger would be some guy on a moto-bike racing by and snatching your wallet, camera, or jewelry.

Just got a return e mail from the Blue Tongue Hotel, they said they do not allow "guests (of any type)".

[QUOTE=AlLostInSpace13; 1130871]First off, Flamingos is only a 3 star hotel, so if you insist on creature comfort then this is not for you. That being said, I find that the Flamingos is such a popular monger hotel, the girls are completely relaxed and feel at home. And unless you really play your cards wrong, you wouldn't be overcharged.

There have been bad trip reports on the web regarding Flamingos, the most serious one being money disappearing from the in-room safe! I can say that I've stayed at the hotel twice after that report aired, but that never happened to me, so I suspect it was either a false report or some how an isolated incident. (and don't forget to tip your chamber maid.)

A new club opened up right next to the hotel last December, so make sure you ask for a room on the other side. Flamingos is located at the heart of party central, so the area is always busy and hence you'll be safe, from mugging, that is. And BTW, that new club next door is a gay club, so forgetaboutit.

And if you want more than 3 stars in the same general neighborhood, I would suggest the Blue Tongue. And that is located right next to the Walkabout.

Spaceman[/QUOTE]

I understand.

However, simple musings as to favorite bars, where you might have gotten lucky, etc. Seem to be lacking.

General question, if moving around at night is unsafe outside the Flamingo Hotel area, how much should I pay the moto drivers to go to, say, Martinis or Sharkeys?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Freezone; 1131163]Main reason if you are familiar with Phils and Thai is that there is alot more going on at those locations than here in Cambodia, especially after all the raids of the last few years here.

Just as a note, there may be more girls available for P4P in just Pattaya alone than ALL the mongering venues thats open to us foreigners in this country. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Henryv;1131465]Just got a return e mail from the Blue Tongue Hotel, they said they do not allow "guests (of any type)".[/QUOTE]What the? I have never stayed at the BT before. I've only been to the restaurant and it looked decent. How can a non-gf hotel survive in a monger district is beyond me?

Spaceman

Hi, I'm new to this boards. Can anyone recommend some guest-friendly hotels and their prices? So I just bring the girl back, and they don't say anything?

[QUOTE=Hatari;1131630]Hi, I'm new to this boards. Can anyone recommend some guest-friendly hotels and their prices? So I just bring the girl back, and they don't say anything?[/QUOTE]Flamingos no problem. $25-35.

If you take a girl from the adjoining Black cat Bar (same ownership supposedly) then no need to deposit the girls I'd card.

[QUOTE=Henryv; 1131467]General question, if moving around at night is unsafe outside the Flamingo Hotel area, how much should I pay the moto drivers to go to, say, Martinis or Sharkeys?

Thanks. [/QUOTE]I take tuk tuks, and I figure I'd pay around $1 to go to Martinis or Sharkeys. Maybe $1. 25-$1. 50 (5000-6000 riel) to go to martinis at night, since it's a little farther away.

If you want a moto then figure slightly more than half of that. $0. 50 or $0. 75 (or 2000-3000 riels). You can pay slightly more if you want, but definitely don't pay the first price ($3-$4?) these guys suggest.

However I avoid getting in any tuk tuk at or around 51st street. They generally are just ripoffs preying on the tourists and drunks. The one time I violated my rule and caught a tuk tuk on 51st to Martini he took me to the wrong place, then acted like an aggressive fool and started demanding more money than we had already agreed on to take me to Martinis. Eventually I had to just put his fare next to him and walk off.

My advice would be to walk a block or two to Norodom. 63rd, or Monivong and hail a ride from there.

And about your earlier question to me about Flamingo: I already commented on why I had a bad stay and you already replied to that post, so I didn't want to beat a dead horse. I think you just forgot about my earlier comment.

Yes, you did give me your opionion on Flamingo, forgot. Thank you.

I assume a "moto" is a motorcyle with no side attachment, and a "Tuk-Tuk" has an attachment for seating.

[QUOTE=Bartchamdo; 1131770]I take tuk tuks, and I figure I'd pay around $1 to go to Martinis or Sharkeys. Maybe $1. 25-$1. 50 (5000-6000 riel) to go to martinis at night, since it's a little farther away.

If you want a moto then figure slightly more than half of that. $0. 50 or $0. 75 (or 2000-3000 riels). You can pay slightly more if you want, but definitely don't pay the first price ($3-$4?) these guys suggest.

However I avoid getting in any tuk tuk at or around 51st street. They generally are just ripoffs preying on the tourists and drunks. The one time I violated my rule and caught a tuk tuk on 51st to Martini he took me to the wrong place, then acted like an aggressive fool and started demanding more money than we had already agreed on to take me to Martinis. Eventually I had to just put his fare next to him and walk off.

My advice would be to walk a block or two to Norodom. 63rd, or Monivong and hail a ride from there.

And about your earlier question to me about Flamingo: I already commented on why I had a bad stay and you already replied to that post, so I didn't want to beat a dead horse. I think you just forgot about my earlier comment. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Henryv; 1131824].

I assume a "moto" is a motorcyle with no side attachment, and a "Tuk-Tuk" has an attachment for seating. [/QUOTE]Correct.

Moto= motocycle taxi where you sit behind the driver. Never any need to flag one down as one will hound you every 2 minutes.