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[QUOTE=Breadman;1757719]There are thousands of girls available at every turn, if one that you like is already sitting with a guy having a drink, remember the bar and go back another night (or wait around to see if she's free later).[/QUOTE]Absolutely right.

Example 1: I was in Spasso one night. None of the girls interested me except one very attractive blond. But she was standing with another girl and talking to a diminutive Japanese guy. As I was sipping my vodka, the blond looked my way several times and smiled. I did not intrude on the other guy's turf however. I merely waited my turn. After a while the Japanese guy walked off and I seized the opportunity. The girl was very friendly. I know we would have made a go of it. Then the guy returned. I guess he had gone to the bathroom. I could have stayed and been a shit heel, but that is not my style. I do not compete for girls in Asia as there is an abundance of girls everywhere. Since the Japanese guy was first to this girl on this particular night, he had the right of refusal to take the girl. I was polite to both of them and I went back to my seat at the bar. Occasionally the blond looked my way. She gave me a forlorn, I'm sorry about tonight look and I shrugged it off and moved on. Those are the breaks sometime. And I never found the time to go back to Spasso to look for her again even though I spent 4 more weeks in BKK and she was hot.

Example 2: I was in Crazy House one night drinking Tequila shots with my favourite CH girl and her best friend. Apple was sitting on my lap and her friend was setting right next to me. I had my arms around both girls and we were all having a good time and getting intimate if you know what I mean. Then some western dufus knocked into our table accidentally spilling his drink. He tried to apologize and then he tried to hit on Apple's friend. I did not say a thing, but the girls did not like the intrusion and Mr. DumbFuck got an earful in Thai. He still did not get it, he must have been drunk or brain dead, so Apple grabbed a passing waitress, explained the situation to her and the guy was unceremoniously escorted to another part of the bar.

I had never witnessed this kind of bad behaviour before in LOS. I remember Uncle V telling me about a similar episode that happened to him in Pattaya this past January. I look down on idiots that act his way. They need to wake up and realize that they are not in sexual prison any longer; they are in Thailand; and they should learn to act accordingly. Trying to cut in on someone else's party is a good way to get yourself smacked in the head and you will never see it coming.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1757674]So you took both girls back to your hotel room? It is low season, some of these girls are barely making ends meet, would hate to hear someone cock blocked a girl from making a few thousand baht. Unless you tipped the girls you didn't take to your hotel a couple thousand that is...[/QUOTE]As I write, the girl was not available for fucking at all. So we were both cock blocked if you like. Normally if I am with girls and am not barfining them, I will tell them they can leave me if have another customer, no problem.

In this case my girl did not want to go to the other customer.

[QUOTE=ShinShin;1757647]I scheduled 3 nights in BKK for a transit. I went several rounds at oily massages at Phrom Phong could not find a younger and cuter girl. So I went to Nana which I have not been for a long time.

I checked all the Rainbows, found a few nice bodies in R4. I have not been to these Nana gogos for a long time. Every time I came I was pretty much shocked how much these younger cuter ones want.

I went though process of interview to find a nice tight body for a night. I found one called her off the stage, she immediately ordered a LD, I went straight asking her LT, she quoted me 7000, not a typo. No bargain. I countered offer 4000, she laughed and left and back to stage without saying a word. I was disgusted about this girl's attitude, her number 17 x, forget the last digit.

Called a second one for interview. She was a bit nicer, another LD, straight to business, she wanted 6000, again no bargain. To me all these numbers are ridiculous, the girl even said I am kiniao, stingy, because I won't give in her astronomical appetite.

I have not been R4 for a long time, a few years back, could still easily get LT for 3000 with a nice young cutie. Time has changed. 3000 is now the ST fee, my second girl told me if I want go back my room, she want another 500 for taxi.

These younger and cuter girls I can no longer afford. I think in a few years when I come back to Rainbow 4, 6000 may become the ST fee. Young cute and affordable have become extinct in this city.[/QUOTE]RB4 is probably an over priced place. The girls are not really that special. Personally I don't find RB4 the best place to hunt. Too much fake. Too much hidden boobs. Not many really pretty faces. Crazy House is a lot better for me. LT is sometimes Quoted at 5000 starting price but I rarely take LT so don't know the standard acceptable price.

However when you write you are disgusted by her attitude, that is ridiculous. 4000 is little more than what she makes in a ST. It is a stupid offer. She can do 2 quickie STs instead, and make much more than 4000. Look in some desperation type bar for an ordinary girl and you can get 4000. You would also be crazy to take A RB4 girl for LT till know she performs. Many of these girls can be crap. I always take ST first.

On Suthisan topic, I only went there once but was a little bit under whelmed at T Ded and ended up not taking a girl. One or two looked good enough but seemed to have regular customer. I am not into the nose and boob jobs too much.

[QUOTE=Tptp76;1757645]I am back in BKK for a few days and on my first night met up with a girl I had been chatting with on TF. She was quite sexy and eager to meet so I figured I'd make her my first date in BKK! She looked stunning when she showed up. We met for drinks and the conversation and the flirting was great. We decided to go to a night club. While dancing I was letting my hands move and one point she kisses me putting her tongue in my throat. She got more naughty as the night progressed. I was generously buying drinks (as she could really drink!) and then quite late in the night she starts saying if you want to go with another girl in the club you can. I couldn't understand why she would say that and I said no I want to go with you and soon after we left. In the taxi she starts saying that I was eyeing other girls and disrespected her. That she is not a bar girl and respect is important and all the usual stuff. Now I was sure nothing like that had happened as I was totally consumed by her. The discussion continued when we got to my room. I tried to pacify her but it wasnt working and soon it occured to me that it was probably her way of getting me to buy her drinks all night and then bail out. Seeing the discussion wasnt getting anywhere, I said to her that if she wanted to leave then she could. And then she says, OK I will sleep here but no sex! As if it was favour! At that point I very politely and firmly showed her the door!

I am usually very cautious with girls from TF and gauge carefully where the evening is going before investing too much time and money into it. But this took me by complete surprise! Well, there is always a first!![/QUOTE]I would have thought sleep here with no sex means she is a "good" girl but passion may ovrcome her. If she is going to sleep there, I don't think it is totally clear there will be no sex. Probably just need to play it cool. Kiss a lot and touch and see what happens. Don't think I would send her away.

If you want a freebie you have to take time and risk. If you want guaranteed immediate sex you go to an Oily and pay. I usually don't have time so mostly taking second option. Anyway I don't like modern discos as the music is not really music.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1757508]You are well situated for some late night action. I would not bother arranging anything in advance. Walk across the street to NEP they are open until 2 am. After closing the ladies flood the streets. There should also be a good amount of NPL prospects milling about. The lady boy activity increases as the night goes on so be aware of that. Security should not be an issue they will take her ID at the hotel, and if you give them a small tip they will call the room afterwards before returning it to her. As for STD's practicing safe sex is always in order.

SL.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot Sun Lover for your valuable inputs. Will keep in mind.

Canyon,

I think most bars have music a bit too loud but not as loud as in discos. The girls say that cannot get into it dancing unless its very loud. Unfotunately this comes with booming bass.

Its possible to move seats in the bars to find a spot not right at the speakers for some relief. Most entertainent venues for Thai youth are extremely loud unless a very high class place. Bangkok Beat live band is too loud for me. So Is Saeng Jun entertainment hall. So are all the discos. So bars don't make me suffer mostly. I still manage to talk to girls where in other places I cannot.

[QUOTE=Raju1974;1757823]Thanks a lot Sun Lover for your valuable inputs. Will keep in mind.[/QUOTE]Beware though 60 percent on street will be lady boys. I am flabbergasted by numbers of ladyboys in Soi Nana even sitting at massage joints during the day.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1757858]Beware though 60 percent on street will be lady boys. I am flabbergasted by numbers of ladyboys in Soi Nana even sitting at massage joints during the day.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Syzygies,

RTFF how to identify ladyboys thread, but couldn't get there anything clear how to differentiate them from girls except asking them upfront. Any exp opinion? People in that thread were.

Actually justifying presence of LBs instead of the actual point.

[QUOTE=Raju1974;1757861]RTFF how to identify ladyboys thread, but couldn't get there anything clear how to differentiate them from girls except asking them upfront. Any exp opinion?[/QUOTE]Thai ladies are generally small framed. An unusual frame or body type is a LB sign.

LB's wear more makeup than the average Thai girl. An overly accentuated or flamboyant appearance is a sign.

Check out the hands and feet. LB's generally wear clunkier shoes, and no amount of surgery can make the hands and feet smaller.

Check out the hair. If it does not look natural or too perfect it is likely a wig.

Talk to them. The voice is not a natural lady voice. It sounds like they sucked helium before talking.

Thai girls are generally shy. Aggressive or flamboyant behavior is a LB sign.

Ladyboys tend to run in packs. Check out her crew. One will likely provide a dead giveaway.

Trust your radar. If you have any suspicion you are probably correct.

None of these are absolutes, just guidelines.

SL.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1757929]Thai ladies are generally small framed. An unusual frame or body type is a LB sign.
LB's wear more makeup than the average Thai girl. An overly accentuated or flamboyant appearance is a sign.
Check out the hands and feet. LB's generally wear clunkier shoes, and no amount of surgery can make the hands and feet smaller.
Check out the hair. If it does not look natural or too perfect it is likely a wig.
Talk to them. The voice is not a natural lady voice. It sounds like they sucked helium before talking.
Thai girls are generally shy. Aggressive or flamboyant behavior is a LB sign.
Ladyboys tend to run in packs. Check out her crew. One will likely provide a dead giveaway.
Trust your radar. If you have any suspicion you are probably correct.
None of these are absolutes, just guidelines.
SL.[/QUOTE]Ask them to stand with their arms down, palms facing forward. Their forearms will stick out far more than yours.

[QUOTE=Raju1974;1757861]Thanks, Syzygies,

RTFF how to identify ladyboys thread, but couldn't get there anything clear how to differentiate them from girls except asking them upfront. Any exp opinion? People in that thread were.

Actually justifying presence of LBs instead of the actual point.[/QUOTE]This has been discussed many times before. So I won't go too far, and should go the the right thread for it. For me there are many possible signs with none guaranteed. Deep voice, too tall, obvious non-natural surgeries (girls get these too), big hands (very small hands is probably not possible), big jaw. The most telling for me is the walk. Ladyboys have exaggerated hip movement and cannot produce a natural female walk. Study real female walks first. Then watch ladyboy walks. It's funny. Ladyboys normally do everything in an exaggerated way.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1757929]Thai ladies are generally small framed. An unusual frame or body type is a LB sign.

LB's wear more makeup than the average Thai girl. An overly accentuated or flamboyant appearance is a sign.

Check out the hands and feet. LB's generally wear clunkier shoes, and no amount of surgery can make the hands and feet smaller.

Check out the hair. If it does not look natural or too perfect it is likely a wig.

Talk to them. The voice is not a natural lady voice. It sounds like they sucked helium before talking.

Thai girls are generally shy. Aggressive or flamboyant behavior is a LB sign.

Ladyboys tend to run in packs. Check out her crew. One will likely provide a dead giveaway.

Trust your radar. If you have any suspicion you are probably correct.

None of these are absolutes, just guidelines.

SL.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot SL again and Scorchin for your valuable advice.

[QUOTE=Scorchin;1757930]Ask them to stand with their arms down, palms facing forward. Their forearms will stick out far more than yours.[/QUOTE]Don't understand. Are you saying forearms stick out far more for real girls but not for ladyboys? It's not very clear.

All good points which can be boiled down to my simple rule of thumb: If the person is trying to hard to look like a girl, she probably isn't.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1757941]Don't understand. Are you saying forearms stick out far more for real girls but not for ladyboys? It's not very clear.[/QUOTE]Just as you write. Arms hanging loose. Palms forward. Ladies hang more than men / LBs.

Go try it.