Angeles City

[QUOTE=Dg8787;3024921]I am still a fan of AC. With the F and F Plan I average 3 k a girl. I could lower the cost to 2.5 k but 3 k seems to be the right number. 3 k brings in the reluctant new one and keeps the plan rolling. Sometimes for fun I barfine a new one at Qbar or Lollipop for 5 k.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3024943]It all depends on what you want out of it. I like both places, but for me AC is far superior, because of GFE, I'm too old for rushed action in a back room on Soy 6, the hotel rooms if are clean, don't impress me much with the furnishings, and lately I try to reduce the food intake.[/QUOTE]I'd agree that YMMV. What I like may be different for you.

Most of the PI benefits that you have listed I'd put in the subjective categories. I'm the same. Even though I might find Soi Six girls more attractive, I still do alright in the PI provinces and far more prefer a shared lazy afternoon or an all night roll in the hay than a timed one hour hit and run in a sketchy room. I don't think PI 19 yos are meeting me for my magnetic charm and good looks but I find LOS in general, and the girls specifically, far more transactional. Some guys prefer that but I don't.

Keep in mind I'm a regular visitor to the Philippines and an very occasional one to Pattaya so that speaks for itself.

Enjoy. G.

Is there any online platform for angeles city similar to Manila courtesans? Will be there just for 1 night, don't want to take any chances trying my luck!

[QUOTE=Ulalaulala123;3025097]Is there any online platform for angeles city similar to Manila courtesans? Will be there just for 1 night, don't want to take any chances trying my luck![/QUOTE]There is no way you can fail.

[QUOTE=Ulalaulala123;3025097]Is there any online platform for angeles city similar to Manila courtesans? Will be there just for 1 night, don't want to take any chances trying my luck![/QUOTE]They mention all of the Philippines but they probably can recomend someone to your fancy in Angeles, which is generally not as eclectic as big city Manila. If you trawl the bigger hooker sites, you will get hits but not with the guarante you seem to want.

E.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3024831]Wow Chris,

6-7 k!

Freelancers won't disappear. They will always be out there to survive.

And maybe move further down A Santos past Johnny St. And the old 'Blow Row'.

Thanks for the update on inflation. It seems the bar scene prices are beyond control.

Thankfully there are other options, which I've always explored with success.

It just takes a little bit extra work and effort for long term results..[/QUOTE]6 k or $105 for long time assuming that you get long time, is it really expensive for you guys? Girl hangs out with you all night and you bang her at 2-4 times before she leaves in the morning. Assuming that she stays all night, is that overpriced relative to prices around the world? I don't think so. In the West, that's crazy cheap. Now I know you will say, you have to compare prices locally, but if you are earning Western wages, you have to look at how long it would take you to earn that money, and for guys, it is not going to be more than 1-2 hours. I don't think bar prices are out of control. Inflation has increase the prices of everything in the past 20 years.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3024902]I'm not a AC aficionado but many freelancers have moved online. The top end of town are working IG or PL and the village girls are on Facebook.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I have to agree G.

There's loads of freelancers on PL, especially in Manila and Pampanga.

The competition has actually kept prices down, compared to the bars.

All the negotiation can be done well in advance, and not on the spot, so you know where you stand from the outset.

If one doesn't like my offer of 3 k for an all-nighter with a free meal thrown in, the next one most probably will.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3025155]6 k or $105 for long time assuming that you get long time, is it really expensive for you guys? Girl hangs out with you all night and you bang her at 2-4 times before she leaves in the morning. Assuming that she stays all night, is that overpriced relative to prices around the world? I don't think so. In the West, that's crazy cheap. Now I know you will say, you have to compare prices locally, but if you are earning Western wages, you have to look at how long it would take you to earn that money, and for guys, it is not going to be more than 1-2 hours. I don't think bar prices are out of control. Inflation has increase the prices of everything in the past 20 years.[/QUOTE]Has inflation caused your salary to increase by 300% in 6 years? Because that's the rate of increase in BF in AC. From 20 years ago the prices has increased 600%. You can pay what you like. But don't blame it on general inflation. It has many causes, social media, Asian money (Koreans), people like you still willing to come and pay these prices, exorbitant bribes bars have to pay etc etc. But its not as simple as what you think.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3025155]6 k or $105 for long time assuming that you get long time, is it really expensive for you guys? Girl hangs out with you all night and you bang her at 2-4 times before she leaves in the morning. Assuming that she stays all night, is that overpriced relative to prices around the world? I don't think so. In the West, that's crazy cheap. Now I know you will say, you have to compare prices locally, but if you are earning Western wages, you have to look at how long it would take you to earn that money, and for guys, it is not going to be more than 1-2 hours. I don't think bar prices are out of control. Inflation has increase the prices of everything in the past 20 years.[/QUOTE]Sure, comparisons are not 100% legit but renting a hooker is not like buying a tin of CocaCola. You might get lucky and get a great experience but when they see "you" are a tourist with money to burn, different story everywhere. All go go girls and girls in cheap evening gowns are is spruced up hookers, as often as not with the wrong attitude. I watch some Thai 20's doing go go dancing in short pants on youtube and they bore me. I wil be in Angeles shortly and 99% of the hookers there are not my type. Better for me to find an ordinary woman, bonk here, buy her some things and leave her a wad. When I go into the shops and supermarkets there, I respect the men and women who work for peanuts there. Hookers are not that different from three card trick merchants in London or Paris. They can ast best perform a very basic service but not for $100 in my book.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3025155]6 k or $105 for long time assuming that you get long time, is it really expensive for you guys? Girl hangs out with you all night and you bang her at 2-4 times before she leaves in the morning. Assuming that she stays all night, is that overpriced relative to prices around the world? I don't think so. In the West, that's crazy cheap. Now I know you will say, you have to compare prices locally, but if you are earning Western wages, you have to look at how long it would take you to earn that money, and for guys, it is not going to be more than 1-2 hours. I don't think bar prices are out of control. Inflation has increase the prices of everything in the past 20 years.[/QUOTE]You pose a few questions and some assumptions so here are some bullet point replies and answers.

6 k isn't too expensive for me to afford but it is much more than I can find elsewhere. My regular prices are 2 k in the provinces and 4 k in Makati. Both are for multiple shot LT and many guys have reported paying similar prices.

Saying that an AC bargirl will stay all night and provide a 4 shot GFE is a big call. Not many guys are reporting receiving this and many are saying they received the opposite. I would argue heavily against the assumption that a high price guarantees great performance. My experience is generally the opposite.

I think it was Mr E who posed the question that many guys justify high paying high prices for pussy in the Philippines because of the prices in the West but who is using the same argument to pay $80 for a taxi, $60 for a steak or $100 for a 2 star room? Yet guys are happy with expensive pussy.

Beyond the guys' options we can / should also ask what's the girls' next best alternative. On her back, she's 'worth' the prices above. If she doesn't want that then she's down to a few hundred pesos a day doing menial work like cleaning, carer or laundry services. Even in the rare cases where she has an education and civilian job, often that's only around 10 k. 10 k per month not per night.

I'd argue that hoeflation is very real. Especially in the typical tourist and monger areas. Prices in many areas are multiples of what was paid a few years ago and often that's for less service. It's not hard to find reasons. Easier travel for punters, more middle class jobs for girls and the biggy is what girls can earn online with out even having to meet guys let alone spend all night sucking dick.

There will always be a market for the higher priced girls. I'm as cheap as they come but even I enjoy the odd walk down Burgos. But let's hope it doesn't become standardised across the whole range. Unfortunately, I may be overly optimistic.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3025161]
There's loads of freelancers on PL, especially in Manila and Pampanga.

The competition has actually kept prices down, compared to the bars.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]Recruiters, cousins and plain old word or mouth mean that there as always an influx of girls coming to the big city looking for better options. Add in broke students and we can get the perfect storm of girls with bills to pay while away from the judgemental eyes of friends and family.

Luckily we have the ideal match of girls open to novel ways to get said bills paid and supportive gentlemen like you and I who can assist.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3025155]6 k or $105 for long time assuming that you get long time, is it really expensive for you guys? Girl hangs out with you all night and you bang her at 2-4 times before she leaves in the morning. Assuming that she stays all night, is that overpriced relative to prices around the world? I don't think so. In the West, that's crazy cheap. Now I know you will say, you have to compare prices locally, but if you are earning Western wages, you have to look at how long it would take you to earn that money, and for guys, it is not going to be more than 1-2 hours. I don't think bar prices are out of control. Inflation has increase the prices of everything in the past 20 years.[/QUOTE]But if you're looking at it from how long it takes to make the money, you need to add in travel cost, lodging cost and hours of earning missed to travel to and from your hookup site.

I'm not judging whether or not it's expensive, but if you're not looking at it from the local economy, it's necessary to consider your other expenses.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3025155]6 k or $105 for long time assuming that you get long time, is it really expensive for you guys? Girl hangs out with you all night and you bang her at 2-4 times before she leaves in the morning. Assuming that she stays all night, is that overpriced relative to prices around the world? I don't think so. In the West, that's crazy cheap. Now I know you will say, you have to compare prices locally, but if you are earning Western wages, you have to look at how long it would take you to earn that money, and for guys, it is not going to be more than 1-2 hours. I don't think bar prices are out of control. Inflation has increase the prices of everything in the past 20 years.[/QUOTE]If you think anything is not expensive then you should have enough money to afford it for the rest of your life without working again. Comparing the prices to other places does not make things cheap. Girls in Indonesia are easily had for $12 short time or $50 long time. In other countries even less. $100 for long time means that the girl only has to work 3 or 4 nights a month. In Indonesia they at least have to work 7 or 8 nights. Paying too much will result in diminished service as we have seen all over the world when prices get too high. Tipping or Overpayment means you are a Simp and you are the problem. If you can only be a Simp and you can be a Pimp then go somewhere where the minimum income isn't $300 a month. Rather than giving a tip and adding to the bottom line, give gifts if you want to reward good service. This will stop sexflation. Just 10 years ago girls in the Philippines were happy to get $10 for short time and $30 dollars for long time. Locals still pay $5 to $10 for short time and $20-30 for long time. I do not understand how can not feel foolish paying more than a peasant with a super low IQ.

Nothing is cheap unless you are a multimillionaire and if it is not cheap it is too expensive as you have to trade time from your life to get it.

Stop Simping and start Pimping.

MM.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3025155]6 k or $105 for long time assuming that you get long time, is it really expensive for you guys? Girl hangs out with you all night and you bang her at 2-4 times before she leaves in the morning. Assuming that she stays all night, is that overpriced relative to prices around the world?[/QUOTE]Hi MoonShot,

Don't assume we all earn $USD. And the general price of a hooker in your country may be different to those in other places of origin.

Agreed, it's all relative.

If I spend a vast amount of money on airfares, hotels etc two to three times a year, and if I'm planning on hooking up with a girl every second day, or for a week long stint, price is factored into it. Not to mention the LD's and bar fines if you take that route.

Thankfully over time, I have taken the alternative route and the freelance and friends and family plan has worked wonders for me.

Not only are the girls absolutely happy with my approach and rewards, I am too.

And I have established many future contacts this way.

I just like to point out to newcomers that there's an alternative to the bar scene, where more often than not, everyone's after a cut of your money. From the girl, to the mama, the Korean owners, the bartender, the other girls wanting expensive fruit juice lady drinks, down to the shithouse rat wanting a few pesos.

I travel to The Phils on business. The whole process is a business transaction, unless you're there to find a partner or a wife.

Business is all about keeping both parties happy and satisfied with repeat custom, at a negotiable price that satisfies both parties.

Freelancers at half the price are more than likely to keep in touch and form a relationship of sorts, and it makes it very rewarding to know that the moment you arrive at Terminal 1, you're only a few hours away (traffic permitting) from some action without having to go on the hunt in expensive bars.

Just my experience _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3025362]

If I spend a vast amount of money on airfares, hotels etc two to three times a year, and if I'm planning on hooking up with a girl every second day, or for a week long stint, price is factored into it. Not to mention the LD's and bar fines if you take that route.

[/QUOTE]I'm fortunate in that most of my stays are reasonably long, around the 59 day mark.

If I amortise over that period, even though I'm a cheap skate, girls are still my most expensive daily line item: about $20 a day for flights to / from home; another $25 for hotels; $15 for food; about $10 for domestic transport; girls are generally $40 and I'll have one most days.

That's for freelancers or previous contacts in the province. Obviously, the breakdown would be very different in the big cities or for two weeks balling in Red Light Districts. Then the girls' costs wouldn't be a significant portion of my spending. Conversely, a resident on a long term lease and cooking at home would find a girl a day a much higher proportion of his budget.

Enjoy. G.

Amortization and cost breakdowns using spreadsheets. Maybe there is an app for all this.

LOL. Bottom line is it worth it to me? Would I rather use the money elsewhere?

Yes, It is worth it to me. There is nothing else I rather spend my money on. Am I going broke doing this? Nope.