Angeles City

[QUOTE=Manny51;3034316]Wow, finally a straight forward report with sensible reflection and recommendations. Excellent first post. Welcome to the forum.

My recent experience was similar to yours. In addition, though, I would recommend that you and any others actually stay at the ABC. Its a nice oasis of luxury and cleanliness in an area that often. Isn't. The rooms are relatively plush, and its nice to go up to the pool anytime you want. The massages at the spa are also a total bargain. I had a 90 minute massage everyday. And from what I hear, the girls like going there. It doesn't change the liklihood that a lady will come with you or not, but I suspect that you might get better performance with a better, more luxurious vibe. Can't beat the hottub in the room. Its pricier than the other hotels, but not too pricey overrall. And when I walked past the other hotels, they didn't seem inviting.[/QUOTE]My only concern about public swimming pools is the universal standard water composition formula, which was also recently confirmed in an episode of South Park: 50% water and 50% pee. If it's not my own where only friends and family pee, I'm not using it, unless somehow forced to do it by the circumstances. The open sea is always a better option, as the sewage gets better diluted by the immense quantity of water, and the oysters and shrimp do their job on filtering it.

[QUOTE=MxTH9;3034323]Hi,

I've been following quite a few posts, and I'll be in Angeles this December for New Year's.

Could you recommend a nice hotel with a pool that's not too expensive and guest-friendly?

A lot of people mention the ABC Hotel, but I find it a bit overpriced.

Also, could you tell me what are the best places to meet girls? I prefer nightclubs where I can dance all night and take girl back with me.

In general, how are the prices for girls in Angeles? Is it more expensive than Pattaya?

Thanks![/QUOTE]I was just asking about this a few posts back. I'm scheduled to be in AC over NYE and I think I'm bailing. There's going to be a cool condo available at One Euphoria. They have a nice roof top pool at 1/2 the price of ABC.

On a good note. 2 months ago I had completed the 3rd sister with one more to go for 4 of a kind. The 4th sister was a little chubby from her picture but with encouragement to continue on I did last week. Surprisingly she had lost weight in the past 2 months. Still not as pretty as the first 2 sisters but not as chubby. But had the sexual prowess of the 3.

Angeles is good.

I am just curious on the logistics of F&F plan? I am asking because my work may take me more often to Manila in future, do you keep them on some allowance so that they provide referral to F&F?

[QUOTE=Dg8787;3034964]On a good note. 2 months ago I had completed the 3rd sister with one more to go for 4 of a kind. The 4th sister was a little chubby from her picture but with encouragement to continue on I did last week. Surprisingly she had lost weight in the past 2 months. Still not as pretty as the first 2 sisters but not as chubby. But had the sexual prowess of the 3.

Angeles is good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3035019]I am just curious on the logistics of F&F plan? I am asking because my work may take me more often to Manila in future, do you keep them on some allowance so that they provide referral to F&F?[/QUOTE]I don't want to speak for Dg but I'm struggling to think of times when guys paying an allowance when not in town is a nett positive.

Personally, my attitude is that I'm generous while I'm in town but I don't message or contact girls, let alone pay them, when I'm back home. They all know this and don't even try to contact me now. Rather than massively overpaying, my generosity takes the form of repeat business so that over the term of my holiday, we are both happy. I've had repeat sessions with girls who know what presses my buttons and they have a fist full of cash from numerous meets.

Speak to guys who do maintain chatting with girls while home and 99.99% will admit to receiving cash requests and sick grandma stories. Contrast that with only ever having one girl refuse to see me because I didn't send 'support' from a far. All the others were more than happy to meet up when I've arrived with dick in one hand and cash in the other. Even the girl above fucked me first then said not to come back so go figure. Conversely, I know many guys who have paid an allowance, only to find the girl disappears when they arrive. Don't ever think that an allowance reserves your spot, gives you preferred treatment or keeps hew honest while your away.

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3035019]I am just curious on the logistics of F&F plan? I am asking because my work may take me more often to Manila in future, do you keep them on some allowance so that they provide referral to F&F?[/QUOTE]I very rarely pay for any referrals or support payments. I do help with 3 18-20 year olds with their tuition. I get zero referrals from them. They would be horrified if anyone knew about us. However 2 are sisters and they were referred to me by their older sister. The other one discreetly approved me for tuition help.

All others under the plan just give me referrals to make me happy. As having been in sales it came naturally for me to ask for referrals. Girls like guys being straight forward. I make sure they understand I am just there to sex them up. And to sex up their friends and sisters. Treat them with dignity and understanding. 90% of the girls are just trying to get by in life and to feed their family. If you look down on them the plan will never work. Why it won't work? You are not a friend or family member!

Sometimes I kick them 1-2 k for a birthday. Enough to buy a cake and a couple liters of soda. But no allowances.

I do have a separate pocket for emergency medical or medicine expenses. Most do not know about it. It is really hard for me to watch someone die for the lack $100 for lack of a doctor or medicine expenses. I donate this for a donation without expecting anything in return. Generally I tell them it is from a Medical Foundation that I know and I will need the appropriate receipts.

So no, I do not do any allowances. Treat them with kindness and dignity and you will have your own F & F plan.

Spending Halloween in AC I really for got how much downtime there is during the day here.

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3035019]I am just curious on the logistics of F&F plan? I am asking because my work may take me more often to Manila in future, do you keep them on some allowance so that they provide referral to F&F?[/QUOTE]In general, noooooooooooo. Normally it does not pay dividends in the future for serial visitors.

Filipina poon is much like the securities/stock markets: Past performance is not an indication of future performance.

Thanks G for your 2 cents, this is in line with my operating MO, I turn my off my mongering phone line off. Actually the number is temporary and I lose it. I don't like to maintain chatting when I am back home. I have never asked for referral, but will keep that in mind during my next visit.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3035071]I don't want to speak for Dg but I'm struggling to think of times when guys paying an allowance when not in town is a nett positive.

Personally, my attitude is that I'm generous while I'm in town but I don't message or contact girls, let alone pay them, when I'm back home. They all know this and don't even try to contact me now. Rather than massively overpaying, my generosity takes the form of repeat business so that over the term of my holiday, we are both happy. I've had repeat sessions with girls who know what presses my buttons and they have a fist full of cash from numerous meets.

Speak to guys who do maintain chatting with girls while home and 99.99% will admit to receiving cash requests and sick grandma stories. Contrast that with only ever having one girl refuse to see me because I didn't send 'support' from a far. All the others were more than happy to meet up when I've arrived with dick in one hand and cash in the other. Even the girl above fucked me first then said not to come back so go figure. Conversely, I know many guys who have paid an allowance, only to find the girl disappears when they arrive. Don't ever think that an allowance reserves your spot, gives you preferred treatment or keeps hew honest while your away.[/QUOTE]

I never thought that its very common in filipinas that women refering others. I guess no jealousy there LOL. Agree, helping someone in dire needs is nice but sometimes its really hard to tell if its genuine or not.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;3035078]I very rarely pay for any referrals or support payments. I do help with 3 18-20 year olds with their tuition. I get zero referrals from them. They would be horrified if anyone knew about us. However 2 are sisters and they were referred to me by their older sister. The other one discreetly approved me for tuition help.

All others under the plan just give me referrals to make me happy. As having been in sales it came naturally for me to ask for referrals. Girls like guys being straight forward. I make sure they understand I am just there to sex them up. And to sex up their friends and sisters. Treat them with dignity and understanding. 90% of the girls are just trying to get by in life and to feed their family. If you look down on them the plan will never work. Why it won't work? You are not a friend or family member!

Sometimes I kick them 1-2 k for a birthday. Enough to buy a cake and a couple liters of soda. But no allowances.

I do have a separate pocket for emergency medical or medicine expenses. Most do not know about it. It is really hard for me to watch someone die for the lack $100 for lack of a doctor or medicine expenses. I donate this for a donation without expecting anything in return. Generally I tell them it is from a Medical Foundation that I know and I will need the appropriate receipts.

So no, I do not do any allowances. Treat them with kindness and dignity and you will have your own F & F plan.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3035161]I never thought that its very common in filipinas that women refering others. I guess no jealousy there LOL. Agree, helping someone in dire needs is nice but sometimes its really hard to tell if its genuine or not.[/QUOTE]The thing is: better have that money go to somebody she knows than go elsewhere, because she knows that it will be spent anyway. Plus she may have a chance to get a cut back.

Halloween in AC was a pretty good idea. The place was packed, the bars were full of girls. I haven't seen this much stock on the shelves for a long time. Bad thing is it was hard to find a table or seat to sit and enjoy, the good thing was that the choices were plentiful.

Few pics for the ones who missed it:

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3035161]I never thought that its very common in filipinas that women refering others. I guess no jealousy there LOL. Agree, helping someone in dire needs is nice but sometimes its really hard to tell if its genuine or not.[/QUOTE]Once there is an understanding you are there to sex up girls and not in love with anyone and you treat them nice, there is no problem in referring you friends and family.

If they detect you are an asshxloe or liar or an undesirable then forget it. If you cheap Charlie them then forget it. I am 3-3.5 k to them.

Best to properly stock your cr for the girls.

1. PH wash. Keep bottles full otherwise they think you are fuxking everyone else.

2. Mouth wash.

3. Plenty of new toothbrushes.

4. Your preferred perfume for them to use.

5. Hydrogen peroxide to clean up blood.

6. Disposable shavers.

7. Sanitary Pads.

8. Baby oil or lubricant For the tight ones.

9. Quality shampoo and conditioner.

10. Snacks. Chuckie Chocolate milk.

11. Drinks.

Add more at your discretion.