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I totally disagree with your comment Revere. If this was suppose to be a date the girl would not had accepted to dance with just another guy. For the record, I am latino and this is not part of our culture. I have had regular colombian girl friends and not one of them would have left me out of their site because of respect and jealousy. Personally, if I were going on a "date" and she started to dance with another guy I would just leave and let her settle the bill with her new found boyfriend.
[QUOTE=Revere;2393434]Can you dance salsa. A big part of Latin culture is to go out and dance. If all you can do is just take a chick out and not dance that is a big problem in Latin culture. Guys will ask her to dance if she is with you and she looks bored. They will see weakness and take advantage of it. Just how it is in Latin culture. Women like to dance. If you can dance and are confident most guys will stay away. Just my observation.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Revere;2393434]Can you dance salsa. A big part of Latin culture is to go out and dance. If all you can do is just take a chick out and not dance that is a big problem in Latin culture. Guys will ask her to dance if she is with you and she looks bored. They will see weakness and take advantage of it. Just how it is in Latin culture. Women like to dance. If you can dance and are confident most guys will stay away. Just my observation.[/QUOTE]I'm from Jamaica and I definitely can dance, had no issues dancing at the reggaeton club with her as its basically just grinding and tis all we do in my country. I am still learning to salsa and I clearly was trying, I felt disrespected at the end of the day. I would've left her right there but I knew she was broke and ima good guy. I'll try not to judge all colombian women from this one instance but I just wanted some opinions on the matter.
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[QUOTE=Surfer500;2393445]I don't think there are any norms whatsoever when it comes to Colombia women, however my guess is, and don't take this the wrong way as I am not trying to demean you, but if she was into you, I doubt she would of been dancing with another guy like she did.[/QUOTE]Nah bro, when I asked the question I was looking for the truth & not some comment from a guy looking to not hurt my feelings so much appreciated. The good thing is I got to see and experience la setenta so I've checked every box except anal on this trip.
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[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2393467]Nah bro, when I asked the question I was looking for the truth & not some comment from a guy looking to not hurt my feelings so much appreciated. The good thing is I got to see and experience la setenta so I've checked every box except anal on this trip.[/QUOTE]Sometimes the truth is hard to accept, I get that.
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What is normal?
[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2393430]I have a general question about regular chicas in medellin.
So I went on a date with a non pro, we toured la setenta and at the end we went to a salsa bar. As I went to buy drinks I come back seeing the chica dancing with another dude, she claims its "normal behaviour in Colombia" but I was upset and we went our separate ways after that, I paid the taxi like the good little simp that I am smh. So, is this normal behaviour in Colombia?[/QUOTE]This is best answered by a Colombiano who really knows what is normal behavior in Colombia. Anyone else doesn't really know what is normal for them. I had an argument once with a Costa Rican friend. He got very mad at me for arguing with my mother. He said that he would never do that but the day before he said it would be fine with him if his sister was a puta. Sex is fun and she can make money at the same time. So which one of us was right? Depends on your culture and what is normal for you. I would have wanted to give approval but that's me and if she went home with me and did me and not him then all good. But one thing is for sure, Colombians Love to dance! I also had a young Colombiano tell me that most of his friends male and female have friends with benefits more than girlfriends or boyfriends.
Would you accept your 23 year old sister to go out with and party with a foreign guy 20-30 years older and more than her and who may not even speak your language?
What's normal?
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Not normal.
[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2393430]I have a general question about regular chicas in medellin.
So I went on a date with a non pro, we toured la setenta and at the end we went to a salsa bar. As I went to buy drinks I come back seeing the chica dancing with another dude, she claims its "normal behaviour in Colombia" but I was upset and we went our separate ways after that, I paid the taxi like the good little simp that I am smh. So, is this normal behaviour in Colombia?[/QUOTE]This is not normal behavior anywhere. The least that she should have done was ask you if you minded if she danced with someone else. The fact that the other guy danced with her while you were away makes it more likely that she will get dance offers.
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Ground Zero Bonanza
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2393220]More Venezuelans showing up than Americans, not sure what you mean here, are you saying there are more American Mongers showing up than Venezuelans? As far as customers for all of the SW's in El Centro, it's my guess that over 98% of the customers are locals, versus foreigners.
As far as pricing, were those prices for SW's you were getting up to almost three years ago? I have never gotten quotes from any of the SW's in EL Centro in the 50 to 60 K range for a rato. I have been quoted as low as 15 K up to 35 K by the Colombians within the last three years. Pricing does fluctuate with the SW's as you know, especially when they quote foreigners, thinking that the foreigner might not have a clue as to what the going rates are, and I believe there are a lot of clueless mongers in El Centro. I experience the inflated price quoting from time to time, and can't fault the SW's for trying, but when I call them on it, they don't like it, and I typically don't go with them, unless they can convince me otherwise.
[/QUOTE]Yes, was referring to SWs. Was following up to your post about ground zero (Carrea / Calle 52) a. K. a. La Veracruz. To be sure, on previous trips I had done very little at la Vera, so the previous prices (50k60 k) reflected the experience of a handful of times, with the better looking of the bunch.
On Americans and Venezuelans: people complain about how Americans (including mongers) drive up prices, which I suppose was happening in Mede, but the Venezuelans are having the contrary effect. So itś a tug of war, deflation vs inflation. If most Americans are not going to la Vera, then the Venezuelans are winning (deflation), and true, its a bonanza for the gringos who do venture out there. Same is happening in Bogota, probably all over South America.
I have heard many Colombians gripe about how Venezuelans are taking their jobs since they are willing to work for lower wages.
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Venezuelans
[QUOTE=Frogg;2393507]Yes, was referring to SWs. Was following up to your post about ground zero (Carrea / Calle 52) a. K. a. La Veracruz. To be sure, on previous trips I had done very little at la Vera, so the previous prices (50k60 k) reflected the experience of a handful of times, with the better looking of the bunch.
On Americans and Venezuelans: people complain about how Americans (including mongers) drive up prices, which I suppose was happening in Mede, but the Venezuelans are having the contrary effect. So itś a tug of war, deflation vs inflation. If most Americans are not going to la Vera, then the Venezuelans are winning (deflation), and true, its a bonanza for the gringos who do venture out there. Same is happening in Bogota, probably all over South America.
I have heard many Colombians gripe about how Venezuelans are taking their jobs since they are willing to work for lower wages.[/QUOTE]It must be true. Even pop music says so. From the Cardi be song (translated to English):
I like Puerto Ricans, I like Cubans (rrr).
I like the Colombian accent (what happened then?
How the Dominican moves her ass (what?
The good thing that Venezuelans fuck me (woo!
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The Ways
[QUOTE=ElAventurero;2393314]So how exactly does one go about meeting these girls? I've made friends with some girls on Facebook. How safe is it? Is there an area that one should stay at where most of these girls live? Or is Uber around so they can come to you at any time?[/QUOTE]Itś generally safe if you have common sense and street smarts (which not everybody has). There are many different ways to meet chicas. It depends on your budget, comfort level with the local culture, and what modes you prefer. Some people only do FB chicas by the hour, others do strip clubs, and some (like me) are bottom feeding penny pinchers who prefer the street scene. Your budget, and what modes you prefer would determine where you stay at.
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[QUOTE=VikingOfNorth;2393239]I'm travelling to MDE tomorrow and just saw the Airbnb house rule "strict prostitution policy". I'm sure that I can handle it. This is Latin America after all. Has anyone had similar experience?. Or any advice how to deal with it.[/QUOTE]I always make sure that the airbnb allows guests. I have seen many that say that its because they are trying to attract the family market. I would find a backup place!
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I think you got it right. I personally don't go to salsa clubs or discos because they bore me. I would rather read a book, fuck, or enjoy a good meal (something without arepas and deep fried items).
The critical importance of dancing (salsa, bachata, cha cha cha, whatever) to have a successful social life in Latin America is regularly exaggerated on this site. Note that I say it's an exaggeration rather than an untruth. It is more important in direct proportion to how much time we spend with girls who hang out in discos and clubs. People who have weekday jobs can't go clubbing (rumbear) as often as those who don't or who make their living in clubs.
It's about personal preference. If you like going to dance clubs then absolutely it's important to practice and invest the time to be able to win dance offs.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2393445]I don't think there are any norms whatsoever when it comes to Colombia women, however my guess is, and don't take this the wrong way as I am not trying to demean you, but if she was into you, I doubt she would of been dancing with another guy like she did.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2393430]I have a general question about regular chicas in medellin.
So I went on a date with a non pro, we toured la setenta and at the end we went to a salsa bar. As I went to buy drinks I come back seeing the chica dancing with another dude, she claims its "normal behaviour in Colombia" but I was upset and we went our separate ways after that, I paid the taxi like the good little simp that I am smh. So, is this normal behaviour in Colombia?[/QUOTE]Definitely not normal. I've gone out dancing hundreds of times in Medellin and Cali, as well as other Latin countries. . If a girl goes out with a guy to a dance club, she will not dance with other guys unless she oks it with the guy. Or unless she's purposefully trying to be nasty or get rid of the guy.
In fact, this is way less common than it is in the US, where in some dedicated dance places, it can be normal practice.
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[QUOTE=Knowledge;2393564]The critical importance of dancing (salsa, bachata, cha cha cha, whatever) to have a successful social life in Latin America is regularly exaggerated on this site. Note that I say it's an exaggeration rather than an untruth. It is more important in direct proportion to how much time we spend with girls who hang out in discos and clubs. People who have weekday jobs can't go clubbing (rumbear) as often as those who don't or who make their living in clubs.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. I have dated over 100 non-pro Colombians and out of those maybe 2 have wanted to go out dancing. Less than 10 have wanted to go to any bar or out drinking at all. With most, going to eat, maybe going to a movie, and going home or to the hotel to relax is all they want. They have regular jobs and just want to relax when they are not working. I think the ones that wanted to go out were mostly students.
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Rtff
[QUOTE=ElAventurero;2393314]So how exactly does one go about meeting these girls? I've made friends with some girls on Facebook. How safe is it? Is there an area that one should stay at where most of these girls live? Or is Uber around so they can come to you at any time?[/QUOTE]You are responding to a post that is talking about SWs or Street Walkers, Facebook is a different topic. So since this is a post about SWs, and you are asking "so how do you meet them?' It starts by being on the street that they are walking right? Then you walk up to them and say 'estas trabajando?' and if they say "Si" then there you go, you've met. The problem here is that you are trying to get information by reading one post our of the hundreds that address your question, but I am going to help you answer some of you own questions by telling you how to use some of the tools of this forum. The most simple thing is that you jumped into the middle of a conversation, so to go back to the beginning of the conversation you click on 'view original post'. If you do this you go back and get your question answered "Is there an area where one should stay at where these girls live?" At least that would answer the question about the SWs that the post you are referring to is talking about. But I am not convinced that you new that, so if not I suggest that you take the time to read back a minimum of three months on this thread, so you can play catch up. Also learn to use the 'search thread' tool so that if a subject, location, etc interest you then you can search posts related to that subject. And lastly go back to the front page of the forum and study the definitions so that you know what RTFF stands for. You have homework now.
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She did not dance with the one who bring her.
[QUOTE=Combo;2393588]Definitely not normal. I've gone out dancing hundreds of times in Medellin and Cali, as well as other Latin countries. . If a girl goes out with a guy to a dance club, she will not dance with other guys unless she oks it with the guy. Or unless she's purposefully trying to be nasty or get rid of the guy.
In fact, this is way less common than it is in the US, where in some dedicated dance places, it can be normal practice.[/QUOTE]