Safe Sex

Guys,

I just got home from taking the Acyclovir over to her. I also bought some antibacterial douche, I forget the chemical name, its a common one. The two week supply of Acyclovir plus the douche came to about 50RMB (about $5 American).

She was really appreciative and the mama was happy and her other "sister" was happy. Mama kept telling her to listen to me because I knew what I was talking about. Of course, I was just parroting what you guys told me, so their appreciation should go to you guys too.

I made her repeat the daily dose schedule to me about 10 times, until she was sick of that game. Mama and "sister" are on board. I think we did a good thing here guys. Thanks again.

Hey, NYC: Thanks for that comment. I was beginning to delude myself into thinking I had solved this. But you are absolutely correct about taking her to the clinic. Thanks to you, that will happen.

Cronin

Cronin, Your welcome. I'm glad I could help. I've seen lots of cases of herpes and thats what this is. It's definately not Molluscum. Let me know how the Acyclovir works. I think within two days there should be improvement. The blisters will then drain and scab over and within a week should be barely noticable.

Just a quick disclaimer however: I am not a medical doctor and my advice is not a substitute for seeing a qualified physician.

Civ2K

Cronin,

Looking at the pic makes me start to wonder what the hell we are doing with these girls at all. Especially the ones we frequent so often at the low end of the market. Very scary stuff. Although I very rarely DATY and never go BB, it still worries me. I never conduct a close-up examination; ruins the mood for me so to speak. I better start doing it anyway!

I would imagine that most girls in her position might be in self-denial in these circumstances. Fear of losing face probably keeps her from going to a clinic or sharing her dilemna with other girls. It's great that you took things in your own hands, but I would still get her to a doctor for a proper check. There may be more going on there than meets the eye.

Thanks for sharing and waking us up, my friend!

OAH

Cronin,
You deserve highest commendation caring about her condition and taking her to a physician.

Please post the diagnosis if you find out since this is a learning process for us all. Thanks.

The Risks & The Facts.

The Risks: HIV, Sphilis and Hepatits B

CMP = Client of male prostitue
CFP = Client of female prostitue

The HIV-positive rate is 36.6% among CMP and 2.9% among CFP.

Syphilis seromarkers is about 15.9% of CMP and 10.1% of CFP.

Hepatitis B seromarkers were identified in 58.0% of CMP and 24.6% of CFP.

**rates are higher in sub-saharan africa***

What you can do about your risks:

1. Condoms lower your risk. Going bareback is stupid.
2. Get your Hep B vaccine
3. Anal sex Male or Female is highest risk.
4. Get a STD check once a year.
5. It's your choice.

Biblography: (for further reading)

AIDS Educ Prev. 1997 Oct; 9(5): 411-23. Related Articles, Links
Condom use by Dutch men with commercial heterosexual contacts: determinants and considerations.
de Graaf R, van Zessen G, Vanwesenbeeck I, Straver CJ, Visser JH.

The Netherlands Institute of Mental Health and Addiction (Trimbos-instituut), Utrecht, The Netherlands.
J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr Hum Retrovirol. 1999 Feb 1; 20(2): 195-200.

HIV seroprevalence and risk factors among clients of female and male prostitutes. Elifson KW, Boles J, Darrow WW, Sterk CE.
Department of Sociology, Georgia State University, Atlanta 30303, USA. sockwe@langate.gsu.edu

Musicco M for the Italian Partners' Study. Oral contraception, IUD, condom use and man to woman transmission of HIV infection. Presented at the Sixth International Conference on AIDS; June 21, 1990; San Francisco, Calif. Abstract ThC584.

Hi guys,

I'm been to some normal drugstores (not chinese medicine) but still all the names and things look chinese to me.

How do you ask (or brands) for acyclovir (pills and/or cream) in Shanghai.

Also related: I'm starting to have a bit of fungus in one of my toes and I also wanted to get something like canesten (Clotrimazol), againno idea how to do it over here :) (http://www.canesten.com/)

Thanks in advance for your help guys :)

Tech:

I went to a large, professional looking chain store pharmacy in GZ. I forget its name, but its "something" Er Tian. I know that some of the clerks speak English, but this was not my lucky day. However, when I wrote the word "Acyclovir" on a piece of paper, he went straight to the shelf and got it for me. I wouldn't try to ask for the brand name.

Getting the antibacterial douche was really difficult because I couldn't remember the chemical name or what the package looked like. I had brought my Chinese/English dictionary. So I looked up various words around the idea of vaginal infections and they finally got the idea. It wasn't easy though.

Fungus? I would use the same technique I just outlined.

Cronin

Heh eh fungus? Sorry, english is not my main language :P.

Is something called athletes foot?

He He, sorry about my english, whats this?

"antibacterial douche"

Hey, do you guys know of any new research in the area of herpes, etc? I don't know like cure for ever research / investigations happening right now.

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Hi all, I thought this might be appropriate for this thread. :)

A crank with armor will never harm her
Before getting drastic, wrap it in plastic
Before getting laid, wrap up your spade
Before you attack her, wrap your whacker
Bodies shouldn't go slapping unless peter's got his wrapping
Cover your stump before you hump
Don't be a fool, vulcanize your tool
Dont be like Johnny, put on a connie
Don't be a loner, cover your boner
Don't make a mistake, cover your snake
Don't be silly, protect your willy
Especially in December, gift wrap your member
If you can't shield your rocket, leave it in your pocket
If you go into heat, package your meat
If you really love her, wear a cover
If you slip between her thighs, be sure to condomize
If you think she's spunky, cover your monkey
If you're gonna have it off, have it on
If you're not going to sack it, go home and whack it
It will be sweeter if you wrap your peter
Never ever deck her with an unwrapped pecker
No glove, no love!
Sex is cleaner with a packaged wiener
She won't get sick if you wrap your dick
The right selection will protect your erection
When in doubt, shroud your spout
When you take off her pants and blouse, slip up your trouser mouse
While you're undressing Venus, dress up your penis
Wrap it in foil before checking her oil
You can't go wrong if you shield your dong
You could get a germ if you don't cover your worm
You might wind up dead if you don't shield your head

Hey Sainter,

Excellent. Everyline a winner. Good advice nicely delivered.

Regards, Havanaman

This is a picture similar to Cronin's. It shows a case of genital herpes.

Hi had a question .How risky is it to come in a gals mouth ? Lets say you are havin sex with a condom on and just before you come you take it off and the gal blows you to finish in her mouth or you come in her mouth by jacking off but still her tongue/lips touches your penis while cuming and after cuming .What is the risk factor here .Would appreciate a reply .

I'll tell you guys why safe sex is necessary. My mother who is 35 here in Australia got pregrant to a guy from the states just a few months ago. I am curious if in America soldiers get women pregnant often. This is due to my mother and one of her friends falling pregrant to a member of the American navy who was in Australia on a naval expedition or maybe you guys love Australian women

Hi Chaps,

I'm curious. On reading the last few pages here I'm hearing a lot about HIV, STDs etc and whether they can be contracted by bbbj etcetcetc.

Ok, we've got some chronicled cases here of herpes, clamydia etecetc, but never any actual stories of anyone, their buddies etc, all hetero, actually contracting HIV. I've read about one or two cases of people dying by natural causes or accident but no deaths by HIV.

So despite all this information we have here about what you should do or not do with condoms, potential risks we take etecetc, does in fact anyone contract or die from HIV in places like Pattaya.

I, for one, would like to know some hard facts and statistics. Has anyone got any for a place like Pattaya? Otherwise I find all this stuff very hard to believe. I don't see numbers of farang drastically dropping away from Pattaya for these very kinds of reasons, when they do for sars or suchlike. If people are going away and dying in their home countries, I've never heard or read a scrap of information about it over the years.
Now, I could very well be wrong, and may have missed a crucial reading here or somewhere. If so please direct me to the article with the hard facts.
Otherwise I find all this very hard to believe.

Has anyone got any personal experiences of buddies catching HIV at say, Pattaya? Or anything at all.

Otherwise I'm sure we should all be scared shitless and not coming here at all, or enjoying very limited sex: no soapies, no massages, no bbbjs, no DATY without barriers, no sex (it seems) even with condoms, almost nothing.

Now I also read lots of stories about guys with freelancers specializing in freelancers etecetc (who supposedly pose the biggest risk). Surely such large numbers of mongers wouldn't be doing it if there wasn't some kind of a scare. Now I would find it pretty hard to believe that these guys are foolhardy and irrational or whatever. But I never hear any bad stories on this or any other board.

So what is the truth?? (before I go rambling on.....)

Or is this board just full of a load of scaremongering?