FKK Palace - Frankfurt

hi shiatsu,

i don't have the depth of experience at palace that st ortos does, having been there only four times, but i would pretty much second orto's ideas about best time to go to palace. i have never found palace particularly rich in what i would consider a 9, (think [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s like anka or magda, preferably with c cups like olga or little romanian andrea, or sammi at phg) but i have never failed to have at least one memorable positive experience on each visit to palace. out of say an avergage crowd of 50 girls, i would rate maybe three to five as an 8 or above on any given night. there are many more pornoed out babes there, plain chunky ruskies, and hispanic babes here, and the latter can be some of the wildest lays, but are also more likely to have stretch marks and a c-section scar. marina is a perfect goddess sex machine, grosse diana is also drop dead gorgeous in a cold plastic sort of way. actually, palace is a good place if you want to just sit and get molested to have sex all evening by all kind of women. the kino is a trip in itself. get ready to wrestle in there. i still like the lineup and layout and hospitality at world better. i predict (and hope) that with the advent of warmer weather, palace will slow down and world will get busier.

have a great time

beffen

Hi Shiatsu,

For me, I find Palace best in late afternoon/early night (perhaps 16:00 until 21:00). The worst time is after midnight when a lot of the girls have left, but due to the location of Palace, there is quite a number of new arrivals in terms of men at that time.

Last time I was at Palace (February), I left around 21:00 and at that time the place was starting to fill up by men and rooms were getting hard to find. I came back that same night around 02:00 for a nightcap and ended up with a lousy lineup and a session in the Kino when I really wanted to have a room.

I have visited Palace few times on Fridays and Saturdays and once I visited on a Sunday. Funny enough, the Sunday visit was the best in terms of the male/female ratio, not that many girls, but very few men.

I have never visited Palace at messe time, I try to avoid FRA during messe time due to hotel prices. What is your view of messe time vs. non messe time Ortos? does the additional number of girls offset the additional number of clients?

Chivaz

Im goin there next Monday, and i cant wait. I havent had sex in 5 weeks now and Ill stop Wanking on Saturday in order to maximize my load !

My married friends are soo jealous, infact one of them hasnt had sex in 2 years ! Think about that for a minute. Hes too turned off by his wife.

Chivas, I assume messe is meal time ? and what is FRA?

F

Chivas,

I am a total idiot, but i have figured it out thanks.

messe = holiday or easter

FRA = Frankfurt airport

I arrived in Frankfurt from Turkey @21:30 and was going to wait until Friday before I indulged myself. Got to my Hotel and and thought WTF, no point in sitting in another hotel room, I'll go check out the Palace and if nothing is to my satisfaction I lose the entrance fee, but at least will get to observe some eye Candy for a couple of hours. I can think of worse ways to spend time and money.

Arrive at the Palace @ 23:00, not too crowded and is a fair number of girls. Sat down, had a drink and was propostioned by a number of girls right away. Gave them the old song and dance about wanting to look around for awhile but still get a fews hands grabbing at Willie just to make sure I was serious.

I finally made eye contact with a really attractive latino girl. She comes over and it turns out she is Brazilian. I have spent alot of time in the Thermas in Rio and have a thing for Brazilian girls. We talked for a few minutes and I thought if I don't grab this girl right now somebody else might, so off to the room we go.

In the room we start with lots of fondling and LFK. Next thing I know its BBBJ that turnes into a 69. From there it was mutiple postions to completion. Lied there and cuddled for a while until she decided it was time for round two. She said she hadn't come yet and of course being the gentleman that I am I thought it only fair for me to try to rectify the problem. After along day in planes I didn't think I had it in me but boy did she prove me wrong. Bottom line; we both got what we wanted.

Her name is Marcela and lives in Munch but works at the Palace sometimes. She is heading back to Munich in the morning for a couple of weeks and then will be back.

Spent a hour with her, 100€, was worth every penny, a combination GFE PSE
(round 1 GFE, found two PSE)

Looks: 9
Attitude: 8
Service 8

BB

Hi Fred,

Sorry about my "bad" language habits, but messe is German for conference (which Frankfurt has quite a lot of) and I use FRA as a short for Frankfurt, not just the airport.

Chivaz

Fred,

Think of Messe as a convention.

Thanks for all the comments. I plan to have a look this weekend (after Oase and FKKW)
My question was prompted by Cordelia telling me that there had been on Tuesday a huge import of new girls at FKKW - she said there must have been around 80 girls!! (she lost count) (guess where all the new girls had been imported from....) About 5 girls for every man. So I'll try Palace for variation, Off to catch my flight now so I'll be offline for a few days (can't fit in 3 FKKs and internet cafes every day!)

the question came up below about how palace compares during messe and non-messe times.

first, i'm glad we've all straightened out what messe is: trade fair. so messe events attract alot of male guests to the town of frankfurt, just like the cliche conventions do in a place like las vegas. that means in messe zeit the gilr line-ups at the clubs swell with sudden arrivals of "free-lance" providers who might come down from koln, d-dorf, dortmund, berlin, etc.

think like one of the out of town girls, say from berlin: if you needed to make cash quick, as much as possible as fast as possible, by working in an fkk club, wouldn't you select messe weeks instead of non-messe weeks to make the trip down to frankfurt?

so during messe events lots of girls are available in addition to the normal day-to-day girl line-ups that rotate during the week. i enjoyed spectacular selection possibilities at palace just this past late jan, when there were a series of large messe events back-to-back. the palace kino was a truly great place to hang out. there were a number of very young, very good looking, german girls from northern sources who showed up during those messe days. they were very hot looking, but i can't speak for the performance/attitude of all these girls. doubtless had beffen visited during one of these winter messe events, he would have found many more 9s more "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]-types" than he has previously encountered at palace. i have a vivid impression of palace during the last messes: it so very much reminded me of the vibe at the old atlantis. that raw, in-your-face parade of erotic women. it was great!

but messe times can be a mixed blessing. sometimes the room waiting is more of a problem than otherwise. the trick here is to go late afternoon or by 19.00 and get well settled in before the wave of messe men arrive. also hotel rooms in/round frankfurt are impossibly expensive. but if you want sheer numbers of 8s and 9s, then messe is the time.

well that is my experience, others may see it differently...

ortos

Part One: Public Sex in the Palace on Friday

Messe time in Frankfurt is a mixed blessing for FKK goers. Usually the line-ups are pretty strong and if you dig gawking at horny conventioneers copulating with shapely- adorables in the Kino and other areas of a Sauna club, then you will be in for a treat. The big downside is that you really have to be aggressive to snag the top acts and you can develop grey hair while waiting for a room.

Last Friday was a major traffic jam at the Palace. I think that I have never seen so many Italians outside of Sicily. (I would eventually see even more the next night at Oase.) Apparently the entire male population of Italy was in town for the Bad und Heizung Messe, and these Romeos were ready for Amore MOLTISSIMO. No inhibitions with these guys!

Arrived at the Palace gates at around 6:45. (BTW, there is a new Bakery and Steh Café on the same block for those who arrive early enough and care to fortify themselves with some good German breadstuffs.) It was easy to see that this was going to be a busy night. Just maneuvering to the locker area was a task. I had high hopes for a good evening though, since in less than a minute I spotted , Janni, Marcella, Cindy, Dilara and Daniella. Good tidings! No sign of Marina. It was early for her but the rumors about her having relocated to Sylt in Nürnberg for the moment seem to be true, so I really did not expect to run into her that evening. No matter, for there were plenty of dandies to keep me busy.

After scanning the place for 45 minutes or so I met up with ELENA. So many girls are named Elena that it can be a bit confusing.

name: Elena
hair: Brown, shoulder length, usually tied up
size: ~ 1,55 m
figure: slender, C/D-breasts (enhanced)
origin: Spanish
born: ~ 1982 ?
tattoos/piercing: None
service: bbbj, DFK GFE
location: Palace, says that she work at Oase for a few years

I had seen her earlier and thought that she possessed a certain amount of physical talent. We talked for a while and then headed off to try and find a room. We got lucky and did not have to wait so long. She is a good experience. She is perfect for those who like tiny girls with large boobs. Not a wild Spanish temperament type but more sweet and tender. Not a bad change of pace. Definitely worth a repeat visit.

The food buffet from several weeks ago had me a little leery of what they were offering so I gave to food a pass. By now (8:15-8:30) this place was really pushing its maximum capacity. The wait-time for rooms was anywhere from 30-45 minutes and many were headed to the movies in hopes of avoided the Zimmerschlange. Cindy disappeared with some gent shortly after I arrived and was still occupied. When I asked her later how her evening was going she told me that she already had a few more guys who were waiting to book her for 2-3 hours sessions each. I saw Janni disappear with a guy and then she was gone for the night. As soon as Daniella went to the lockers with some gent to get her money, some guy would scoop her up right afterward. Her friend Christina was also doing a brisk trade working the Kino. I did see Katharina (Blond, Russian) with a bit of time on her hand. I wonder if her “extras” reputation is catching up with her. Clearly, this would be a night in which patience would be needed. It would also be a night to choose carefully. On busy nights like this many girls, even the good ones, can tend to adopt a “churn um and burn um” attitude.

It was a great night to hang out in the Kino and check out the “Sex in der Offenung Szene”. There is a girl who gave a super performance with some dude. I have seen this girl often and she is a former Atlantis girl. I was told her name a while ago but have since forgotten it. She is 1,68 M tall, thin, great legs, B size breasts, dyed red hair, a bit older and an ok if not spectacular face. She seems to have a fun and likable personality. I have always turned her away but she never fails to give me a smile when I see her. (Novize, do you know the name of this one?) Anyway, her performance was spectacular! CHRISTINA, who I have always thought was ok but not spectacular, also was really getting into being watched. She was sitting on some guy’s face at one point and making noises that were quite arousing. I made a decision then and there to sample that little Romanian again, this time in full view of the other Kino people.

I am not a public sex guy. It has never really been my thing, yet I have been know to use the Kinos at Oase and Palace as a place to satisfy my carnal desires. The Oase Kino give the illusion of being somewhat more private. Not so in the Palace Kino. As Christina and I set up shop on the top mat, there were at least 4 other couples and one trio humping away like bunnies. Almost an orgy atmosphere. On top of that there were another 6 or so men and women relaxing and watching. Christina is a moaner which was pretty cool. As we were 69ing she made intermittent cries and squeals. At one point she started riding my tongue and shrieking so loudly that many began to notice us and make comment. We drew a number of Italians voyeurs and armchair quarterbacks, making commentary and shouting encouragement. After finishing with a flourishing doggie, both of us received compliments from several bystanders. Christina was pleased. She was assured of being busy for the rest of the night. While I might think twice about booking her for a room session, public sex with her is a big treat!

I figured that this would be enough for one evening and that saving energy for the next evening would be wise. However as I was heading for the locker room I got a good look at MARCELLA. Suddenly it seemed like a good idea to find a place to relax and bide my time until she would be free again. I have heard many good things about this Brazilian beauty and have often wanted to sample this little bit of Sao Palo, but it has never seemed to work out. She is pretty popular and I was worried that grabbing her on this night would be particularly difficult. But I was determined. That hinder of her’s is an amazing site! About 2 hours later I caught her on her way to the bar and asked her if she would like to go someplace more private and talk for awhile. She was willing and after about a 20 minute wait, and a lot o’ heavy petting we finally made our way to a room. Marcella is a very different temperament than Elena. She is a crazy combination of wild PSE and, at times tender GFE. Her BBBJ is fabulous and her I had some of the best doggie-style with her that I can remember. This is one that I highly recommend!

name: Marcella
hair: Dark, long
size: ~ 1,55 m
figure: slender, C/D-breast What an ass!!!!
origin: Brazilian
born: ~ 1983?
tattoos/piercing: ?
service: Super. great bbbj, DFK,
location: Palace

All in all a good night, despite the long room-waits and that hogging of Cindy, Daniella, and Janni. I sometimes wonder if on nights like last Friday if the management should forbid sessions longer than one hour. If anything it would make room turnover move a bit faster. Just a thought…

Cheers,

Dedalus

The biggest downside of a Messe is finding a room or a reasonably priced room.

You can generally avoid the crowds at Palace if you arrive before the peak times. (before 6:00). It is generally busiest between 7-10. At peak time it will be hard to find a room although Palace has a remarkable number of rooms for a club its size.

In general, I find that the selection is greater but this is not necessarily so. If there is only one or two popular girl, you can rule her out as she will be taken for the night and service will be less than usual because she knows she is in demand and if you arrive late she will be tired.

It is not the male to female ratio that counts but the quality of the lineup. I find that more girls are willing to stay if there are customers. So, when business is slow the best performers will leave early because they will have made their personal quota and there is no reason to stay around. Also at slow times girls will arrive late leaving the club very empty.

IMO it is best to come on days beside friday and saturday of Messe. If you come during a messe, come early.

Hi Dedalus,

Very good description of messe time activity. I have not been at Palace at messe time, and based on this I think I will continue to plan my trips on non-messe time as I hate the room shortage thing and the hectic "must grab girl before someone else does" atmosphere.

quote: "She is 1,68 M tall, thin, great legs, B size breasts, dyed red hair, a bit older and an ok if not spectacular face. She seems to have a fun and likable personality. I have always turned her away but she never fails to give me a smile when I see her"

The description fits Angelique (the face part might be debateable though), but I think you would know her so maybe not.

If it is her, then I also turned her away couple of times, but at the time did not know who she was, but after I had a session with her last summer, I always look for her at Palace, but unfortunately our paths have not crossed since then.

Chivaz

[QUOTE=Dedalus]She is a crazy combination of wild PSE and, at times tender GFE. Her BBBJ is fabulous and her I had some of the best doggie-style with her that I can remember. This is one that I highly recommend![/QUOTE]

She is great when stoned, and a turn-off when sober. So better don't do her before 22.00.

Hessen Bub

Chivaz,

It is not Angelique. I want to say that this girl is German or has at least lived in Germany for a long time, for her german is great and to me sounds Akzent frei.
She is pretty talkative, always smiling, and is often hanging out on the curved bench below the Harley. The hair could be brown (it is always hard to tell in the dimly lit Palace) but I think that it is dark red.

Bub,

I did indeed get the impression that that Marcella was either a bit high on booze or fortified by some mind-altering chemical, or both. In any case, I had a good time;-)


Cheers,

Dedalus

Hi Ded,

Here is a wild guess:

There is this girl that used to work at Atlantis and now works at Palace. She claims (at least when at Atlantis) to be from Palermo, Sicily. She has a rather long brownish/red hair, the height fits. The face description is debateble although we can of course have different taste. She has a tattoo of rose (or was it devil...don't remember) on her right but cheek. I remember her speaking good German (at least much better than mine).

Had a session with her at Atlantis spring 2003. Session was ok until I came doing doggy and she got startled. Turns out the condom had broken and neither of us noticed until she felt the cum. She offers Anal. Sure was glad at the time I declined that offer. I have spoken to her a few times since then and always have a good time talking to her, but never went again. Tell her that she and I equals bad luck :-)

Friend had a session with her at Atlantis and gave her good marks for being fun in the room.

There is a picture of her on the "Girls" session on Palace web site under the name "Biene".

Sorry for cluttering up the board with something that might not be beneficial to anyone.

Chivaz