Seoul

John,

I have been to Bang Bang intersection. All i can tell you is that is near Kangnam. I have only been there one time to this MP called Cool. Its only HJ though, but the talent was great. I got this 21 YO hottie that I BSd and got to put my hands all over her. The only advise I can tell you is, take a taxi and tell the taxi to take you to Bang Bang Saguri. I really cannot tell you what direction to walk to, the taxi was coming from Hannam Bridge, past Kangnam went straight, then dropped us off at the intersection. We then crossed the streed to the left, went straight. There was a Bang Bang store across the street, walked about 2-3 blocks and the MP was in the basement. Dont know if its foreigner friendly, because I went with Korean co workers. Good luck

[QUOTE=John08]Hi all,

I was just wondering if anyone new where the "ddael ddael" bangs are in Seoul and how much they cost. Ive heard of ones located near kangnam station near the "bbaeng bbaeng intersection? If anyone could tell me how to locate them or coffee shops that offer bbbj as well itd be much appreciated. Also is there any places or girls that anyone knows that offer just bbbj till finish for a good price?

Thanks again![/QUOTE]

So after a few brews with some friends, i felt the need to release some tension. So I decided to hit up Yongsan. There was a few good looking chicks in the A row, but over all most were 7's. As you may know the entire story, I had to hit up the B rows. I was approched by the usual ajummas working the windows, but of coursed I passed. Then I went to this window where i saw this late 20's gal that offered 15 mins for 7 man wons. I refused since I wanted to keep going to see what else there was. So I hit up the other side, the other B row. Was approached by this cute looking girl. A little overweight, but I dont descriminate against that. Im a little thick myself. So she quotes 7 man won for 20 mins. So I said with hell with this, lets go. Brings a small tub with water, washes the member off while we talk a little. BTW, she was wearing these heals that were at least 4 inches high, but oh well she was still cute. She then tells me to lay down, she starts with a CBJ, then asks me to get on top, which I hate. Girl you work it, not me! Im the one paying. So after about 5 mins of missionary, I tell her to get on top for some cowgirl action. She sucked! but almost made me finish, over all we pumped it for about 20 mins, but I am not a quick person, so she tried to finish me by hand. Besides her love hole was a little too loose. So i just told her to stop. Cleaned up, dressed back up and left.

Still curious about the talent, i walked around a bit more. But none of the girls would even look at me, so f* it, went back to the window from the beginning. This time the girl was gone, but there was another cute looking girl. So she quotes me the same: 7 man wons for 15 mins. So I accept. Same technique as the first one, but this time she only wiped me with wet towels, BBBJ for about 3 mins, then again missionary position. I dont know if it was her loud fake moans, the fact that she was pinching my nipples, or her stinky breath, but I couldnt get it together. I was just too distracted. She kept nagging about being short time so she made me loose concentration. I just got mad, told her to stop. Cleaned me again, dressed up and left.

Total damage for the day: 140,000 KRW, and a trip back home with a loaded pistol. Funny but I think there may be something good out there, I just picked the wrong nite to go. I will try again some other time.

Hey all,

I just wanted to know where any good or suggested coffee shops in Seoul might be - how do you tell if they offer "service" or not. If anyone knows of theses so called ddael ddael or hard bangs any info on where any are would be great.

Thanks for your help!

Hello!

There is no coffee shops in Seoul you think.

Maybe, Almost Korean guys don't understand "DDAEL DDAEL BANG".

Normally, They call "DAE DDAL BANG".

"DAE" means "by girl", "DDAL" is "masturbation" and "BANG" is for "room".

So, you can guess!

Seoul has so many these rooms. but you must reserve a room or a girl before visiting.

The normal price is 6 man won by cash.

If you have any questions, Let me know !

I am a Korean guy to live in Seoul.

[QUOTE=John08]Hey all,

I just wanted to know where any good or suggested coffee shops in Seoul might be - how do you tell if they offer "service" or not. If anyone knows of theses so called ddael ddael or hard bangs any info on where any are would be great.

Thanks for your help![/QUOTE]

So guys,

after I finally dropped Ms. Brain666 to the airport for the next months I am ready to enter the monger scene here again. It will be a difficult task as she left me completely emptied - she is a wildcat. So I need some time for recovery and recharging teh batteries buttom up.

Further my company sends me to some trips around next month, which would be generally good if there wouldn't be so many social events until late night. Probably not at all time for mongering and my companies definition of 'social events' doesn't match the definition of an ISG member.

I read through the recent posts and to my surprise it seems we got some new contributing members here since the summer season has ended.

Welcome guys here I like your reports. Probably we get the Seoul forum more active now.

regards

Brain666

I recently hit a sports massage in the Sinchon area of western Seoul. The cost was 110,000 won for about an hour. I had to wait more than 30 minutes and got really impatient before the owner finally sent a woman into my room. She gave me a facial (the cosmetic kind) and a bit of a massage.

We then hit a bedroom with bath. She gave me a body rubdown with soap and then it was off for sex. She gave me a lickdown then blew me. It was okay to that point, then she stuck the rubber on and rode me. I can take eons to blow my load, so I had her finish me off with her hand.

The girl was about a 7.5, mainly because her ass was too flat. Her face was good and breasts were perky with erect nipples. Thing is, you can get the same if not better in the Janghanpyeong area of eastern Seoul for 20,000 won less.

So if you're looking for an hour's worth of play, consider "sports massages." Many of them have the girl making small talk with the guy, and I'd say that in addition to the sex is what keeps the guys coming for more.

I am not sure if this counts as "exceptional" for all of you full-time mongers but it had never happened to me before so I thought I would share it.

I live in Apgujeong and after a night of drinking I generally go down to the local massage place for a shower, shave, quick rub and a happy finish. The price is good (6man), the girls are young and pretty, and the being just down the street the location is unbeatable. Anyway, I went in on a Thursday night and in walked the girl. She started giggling right away so I immediately started flirting as much as possible with my primitive Korean. Everything was pretty standard massage, blowjob, etc. But she was very willing to let me explore her body (some of the others arent). Once I was done we chatted some more and she said she wanted to eat. I told her to order some food on me. She used my phone and called the "chicken place" but said it was busy. So off I went on my merry way.

3o mins later I get a text from her. The chicken place was actually her phone and now she had deftly gotten my number. I was still not ready for bed so I went out for a few more beers and I kept text messaging back and forth with her asking her when she was done and if she wanted to meet later on that night. She said maybe. Crawled into bed around 5am and awoke an hour later to the phone. It was massage girl and she was at the subway station and she wanted me to come met her. I jumped out of bed with a wicked hangover, ran down the street to pick her up, and brought her home. We were making out in bed and she was resistant to my advances for sex. Then she asked if I could be her boyfriend. "Of course", I lied. Two minutes later we were going at it.

Around ten I took her out for breakfast and then she went home. I went back to the massage place a few times and each time the guy sent her. I was a little disappointed because I like variety but from then on I always got to have sex for the standard 60 bucks (the went time I went and she was on her rag I even got the facial). This little game went on for a few weeks but then she kept calling me saying she had quit the massage place and was looking for a new apartment. As soon as she said something about troubles with the rent I stopped picked up the phone.

Conclusion: I have seen returned to my local massage place a number of times and tried to get other girls to meet me after work but to no avail.

I do feel a little bit bad having lied to the girl about being her boyfriend, but it is not the first time I have lied to a girl and it sure won't be the last. She was actually good looking and sweet and if I didn't already have a girlfriend with a real job I might have actually pursued it a bit further. Then again, after reading some of the other posts on here I think it is wiser to avoid relationships with any working girl.

So after loading the batteries ‘a bit’ I was up to P4P, or better to say I was curious again.

Had been to Yongsan electronics market and wanted to see a movie which was not available at Saturday evening. So, earlier then expected I had to decide P4P or not. Any way would lead through subway 4, so naturally I had to pass by the Yongsan RLD anyhow. As it is against my nature to just pass by an RLD without checking the talent (if I am not accompanied), of course I made an inspection walk through all alleys. Talent was mixed, but nothing outstanding. One average girl in B-row (to station) was asking for 80K, probably with a farang surcharge. As she herself was not worth any surcharge I declined and just continued walking. A-Row was better as usual, without being exceptional however and they ignored me as usual. Some (few, better 1 or 2) talent can be found in the B-row.

Anyhow my mute was Miari, so I entered the Subway 4 and headed straight to my favourite RLD. My plan after the money wasting Barber Shop tests I did before was to go on the safe side and visit my Favourites in my favourite shop.

I was passing through the alley (‘main Expressway side’ 1st row) when I was stopped by a mamas an asking to check her talent. A real cute face among 3 girls smiled at me and was waving. Checked arm size to adjust the body and agreed after confirming my usual 30 min ok in Korean (sam ship pun ok?). My first try in this shop. Was moved up to the 2nd floor, where 1 Korean customer was just finishing dressing, and sent into a tearoom until he left. Not perfect timing. 30 sec. Later I could enter the bedroom.

My girl turned out to be more voluminous as I usually like it (have to admit I don’t meet my standard myself as well). Luckywise it was just the volume and not fat. She had one of the biggest natural breasts I have seen at Korean woman. Large, but not falling, nice to see. I was still a bit concerned about if we could come along well, as my experience with not really slime ones wasn’t that good in average. I would give her a 7, 7- due to ‘not my taste base body’, but probably others could like it, as she had a cute face, the breast were big and good shaped and the body was not fat at all, also nice to touch. So lets say anything between 7- and 8 depending on the mongers preference. Her Name was 'Unchul'.

She went to the bathroom and I undressed. She started cleaning me, mentioning the big size but not in a fearful way. Asked my nationality and tried to make some small talk, which was difficult as my Korean is not sentence wise yet. But I brought it over that I considered her breast as beautiful and biggest sized I have ever seen at a Korean women. She liked it.

She started the typical nipple kissing moving down the body to the dick with a BBBJ.
BBBJ was kind of average, not bad, but also not outstanding. DFK was possible. She didn’t press her tongue into my mouth, trying to suck me out as my most favourite Miari girl does, but it was a decent DFK for a first timer with her. DATY was also possible and she liked it. We then proceeded from DATY to missionary (covered of course) and then followed by several positions. Nothing excluded.

It was a bit funny regarding ‘sounds’. She was obviously trained with some fake moaning, but also seemed to like my (for her) unusual ‘large’ dick inside her which created some real moaning as well when I went deep inside her. So I had a stereo tone of fake and real moaning. She obviously had a conflict if she could allow herself some own fun with a guy, or how to keep control that the guy at the same time to lead him for finally coming. I was almost laughing about that, it was not a turn off, so I didn’t tell any to change, as I wouldn’t have brought the message over in whatever language anyhow.

She really wanted to provide good service, probably also enjoyed a bit the ‘seldom’ dick type, so the session overall went pretty well, not exceptional, but much better then I expected in the beginning. I was finally turned on by her much more then expected and could easily come - a surprise for myself, by all concerns I had before regarding the body style. After coming she kept the whole thing in and stroked another 2-3 minutes playing with my wrapped dick inside her pussy (half erected still). She then carefully cleaned everything and tried to do more small talk. Asked If I come back, I said yes and she asked tomorrow?

So after all I can finally say: Repeative session definitely not excluded. Surprised about that my body reacted so positive to her. Do I need to expand my bandwidth?

Ok guys that's it for the weekend. Didn’t show up to my regular Miari shop then, as I couldn’t have avoided another session there and I was not ready for 2 shots yet.
So still just only 22:00h, I went to Itaewon then joining some Halloween party.

Regards

Brain666

Stopped by for an afternoon session at an ANMA in Janghanpyeong. Not many ANMAs were open in the afternoon, really I think this was one of three.
At first they claimed that they did not accept an foreigners but I managed to convince them that I was a Japanese businessman (my mother is japanese so I knew enough japanese to get by).

Very similar to the ANMAs south of the river except it was 150KW versus 180 - 210KW at the ANMAs south of the river. I was escorted to the 5th floor where I went to a room and waited for the girl The room did not have jacuzzi or tub which was a downer for me. It did however have a shower table. It was very similar to FOX massage except the room was bigger and the bed was alot bigger.

She came about 5 minutes later. She was late 20s about a 7, a typical K girl, skinny and no tits. Not really my type. I like K girl at least a B or C cup. I dont care if they are not real breast or not I like them bigger. I have met a few with breast enlargement surgery.

It was a usual ANMA session. Shower, I like to be pampered so I expect the girl to wash my body for me, slip and slide, BBBJ, rinse then off to bed. Massage on the bed followed by nipple and body kissing, BBBJ, then CFS. No DFK or GFE.

Didn't really enjoy myself. I think I will stick to the ANMAs south of the river.

BK

Hey Guy12,

I have never seen these. I have seen Phone Rooms (JON HWA BANG) and relaxation rooms but not the DAE DDAL BANG. Is that what they say on the outside? How do you find one? What is the price? How about the quality of the girl?

Guy

[QUOTE=Guy12]Hello!

There is no coffee shops in Seoul you think.

Maybe, Almost Korean guys don't understand "DDAEL DDAEL BANG".

Normally, They call "DAE DDAL BANG".

"DAE" means "by girl", "DDAL" is "masturbation" and "BANG" is for "room".

So, you can guess!

Seoul has so many these rooms. but you must reserve a room or a girl before visiting.

The normal price is 6 man won by cash.

If you have any questions, Let me know !

I am a Korean guy to live in Seoul.[/QUOTE]

Hello all!

First of all everyones' reports have been really informative. Thanks to everyone.

I have a question about "dae ddal bangs" for MyOwnHome and Guy12 or anyone else who might know. I'd like to try one of those places out, but I don't have the slightest idea what one would look like. I can spot an Anma or a barbershop easily, what kind of sign would a dae ddal bang have? Guy12 said that a reservation is necessary, how would I make one? I speak Korean pretty well and I know some anmas have homepages. Anmas are getting too expensive and the bbs women are too old for my tastes so dae ddal bang seems like the best solution. Any information would be really appreciated.

[QUOTE=Lilsquirt]Hello all!

First of all everyones' reports have been really informative. Thanks to everyone.

I have a question about "dae ddal bangs" for MyOwnHome and Guy12 or anyone else who might know. I'd like to try one of those places out, but I don't have the slightest idea what one would look like. I can spot an Anma or a barbershop easily, what kind of sign would a dae ddal bang have? Guy12 said that a reservation is necessary, how would I make one? I speak Korean pretty well and I know some anmas have homepages. Anmas are getting too expensive and the bbs women are too old for my tastes so dae ddal bang seems like the best solution. Any information would be really appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Moajority of these dae ddal bangs (handjob establishments) are advertised simply as massage parlours, and can have a variation of swirling poles, excessive neon lighting are just simply have the word massage, sports massage and in hangul 마사지, outside in public view. You simply have to go inside and ask what the service is. Usually prices advertised for something in the 60-70,000 KRW range will tell you that these places are for handjobs.

I'm not too sure on making reservations, as some of the top notch anma places do require them but as for these type of establishments, I don't think its necessary.

DH

[QUOTE=GuyinHawaii]Hey Guy12,

I have never seen these. I have seen Phone Rooms (JON HWA BANG) and relaxation rooms but not the DAE DDAL BANG. Is that what they say on the outside? How do you find one? What is the price? How about the quality of the girl?

Guy[/QUOTE]

As for phone rooms, unless your Korean is quite sufficient and would like to practice some light phone sex, its nothing extraordinary and NOT recommended for the likes of us mongers.

DH

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]Moajority of these dae ddal bangs (handjob establishments) are advertised simply as massage parlours, and can have a variation of swirling poles, excessive neon lighting are just simply have the word massage, sports massage and in hangul 마사지, outside in public view. You simply have to go inside and ask what the service is. Usually prices advertised for something in the 60-70,000 KRW range will tell you that these places are for handjobs.

I'm not too sure on making reservations, as some of the top notch anma places do require them but as for these type of establishments, I don't think its necessary.

DH[/QUOTE]There is a whole bunch of information related to Dae Ddal Bang (hereinafter, DDB), and there is actually pretty famous Korean webpage just dedicated to this section.

DDB, literally translated, is "Assisted Masterbation Room", or also commonly known as "College Co-ed Massage" (여대생 마사지) started becoming a big boom in early 2000. Now, there are easily over 100 establishments in Kangnam area, and probably over 200+ establishments in Seoul/Seoul metropolitan area.

The original idea was, pretty college co-ed girls would give you a massage (half-assed though it may be), then finish you off in a happy-ending style. No touching allowed, and no clothes off. I remember going to one of these establishments in the early days, and I literally had to lie like a corpse while the girl was pumping away. The draw was that the girls were not "working" girls, and they were real college students trying to some extra cash. When I tried feeling her up a bit, and she totally shy and nervous (and I've been around long enough to tell a real shyness from a "business shyness")

This style is what is now commonly known as "softcore" DDB. Although I doubt that there are only very few true college co-eds around, if any.

Due to the passage of the law against sexual activities in 2002, many of the "working girls" formerly at 588, miari, yongsan and youngdeungpo, as well as various BBS and anma's, began flowing into the DDB business, pretending to be co-eds.

A big shock came when trying to stand apart from the competition, instituted "topless" happy ending service. Then it was "bottomless" happy ending (still no touching allowed. Only looking). Then the BJ service...and it became more hardcore. These are what's known as "hardcore" DDB.

Now in 2006, there are basically 3 types of DDB. First is "softcore," which may allow topless for the happy ending part, light touching on the chest, but not in the bottom area (some actually do not even allow that), very light catlick and the HJ finish. These establishments usually has the best talent, otherwise, who would friggin go?

The second type is "semi-hardcore," where they allow heavier catlick, BJ, definitely topless, some may even do bottomless, still bottom touching is off limits. (mostly), then the HJ finish. The talent is mixed, and some establishments mix "softcore" girls and "semi-hardcore" girls. Sometimes you may find a gem here.

The third time is true "hardcore" type places. Here, everything is a go, except Full Service. Most places allow CIM, service in all nude, some even provide light AR. Bottom touching is mostly allowed, but no fingering. A lot of places would allow 69, and DATY. As you would imagine, the quality of girl is the worst as these types of places, and you have a better chance of winning the lottery three straight times than finding a real co-ed here. Almost all girls are from some pro establishments prior to working. But there are also some gems to be found, like those who were previously at 588.

Service price is mostly at 6 manwon, a lot would offer 5 manwon if you are a member of some internet DDB site, and go during the "special offer" periods. I do not know how accessible these places are to foreigners, as they cater exclusively toward Korean natives. But beware, these places are raided pretty frequently, and you can go through a lot of shit if you get caught. I was caught in a raid once, and while I was able to talk my way out of it, I definitely do not want to think about what would have happened if I was taken down to the station.

Girls who are popular, either in terms of looks or for the services they provide, are called "Aces", and those are almost impossible to see if you stop by randomly, as their schedules are fully booked within 5 minutes (no kidding, 5 minutes) after the establishment opens (they don't take advance reservation, only same-day reservations). You pretty much have to start dialing about 5-10 minutes before the establishment opens, keep punching "redial" in the hopes that you are the lucky one.

In my opinion, DDB are pretty good value for buck, as you get to spend 1 hr with the girl for 5-6man, as opposed to 15 mins at 588 for 7 manwon, but if you're the type who need to get FS, then probably not recommended. Again, I'm not sure how accessible these places are to foreigners. There is a cafe at [url]www.sora.net[/url] dedicated to DDB, and if you're well-versed enough in Korean, you'll be able to find it.

I have the list of DDB in Seoul which I found from that site as well, but I hesitate to put that list on here, as I do not want ppl calling the place and asking questions in English, or people posting questions in English at the DDB site, which would make people suspicous about the sudden appearance of English-speaking crowd among scene.

The DDB website is constantly monitored by Korean LE and Korean gossip rag reporters who occassionally strip information from the website and publish it as a newspaper article. ISG is pretty well under the Korean LE and News radar, and I'd like to keep it that way. After seeing what some retarded people can do with the information posted here (i.e. the retard poster who told Asian Rain's freebie DH in the Hong Kong forum that her pictures are posted on the web and "kindly" asked AR to take the pictures down...the things that dumbasses can do!), I hesitate to compromise the anonymity of ISG.

And these girls are pros like any other ones, and in response to MyOwnHome's post below, yes I have gotten FS at these DDB and also met them after work and gotten busy too, but it wasn't a P4P, it was after conversation with the girls, the heat of the moment, we just clicked. If the girls are caught giving FS in the establishment, they are kicked out, as the proprietors do not want customers going and bragging about getting FS, and drawing unwanted LE attention on the establishment.

If anyone has gone to foreinger-friendly DDB, post the name and I can post the address, but please, under NO circumstances, mention ISG or the reports posted here. In a proud and wire-connected country like Korea, it would make it very difficult if people were to find out that there is a site dedicated to foreinger mongering in Korea.

KS

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I've never even heard of the phone rooms though that doesn't mean they dont exist. As for the "masturbation" rooms, Dizz Hizz is pretty much right. They can be called a number of different things and have different kind of advertisments out front. Usually, they tend to say massage (in KOrean of course) somewhere out front.

You will know you are not in an anma when the guy quotes the price at the desk. 60-70 means you get a hand job and generally a little oral play. Anything over 100 means you are paying for full service.

I have NEVER heard of having to make a reservation to these places. I have had to wait a bit for a girl on a busy night, but no place is going to turn you away just because you didnt call in advance (though they may do it jsut because you are not Korean!).

By the way, I have often heard of coffee girls. When I lived far outside of Seoul I woudl sometimes see younger girls riding around on scooters and I assumed that these might be the girls in question. Does anyone know if this kind of service exists inside of Seoul? If so, the standard questions apply: what does it entail, how much does it cost, and how can I order it?

I'll be greatful if anyone can help me out.