General Reports

I was in Tijuana back in early June and had no problems with rateros or other savory types. Has this problem been going on for long? I don't remember hearing much about it when I was there, even from the cabbies. So Constitucion is getting bad? What about the lower end between the callejon and Coahuila? Is that getting a little dangerous, too?

I was thinking of taking a weekender to SD and Tijuana for some fun in October, but I may change plans and go to Vegas. A little pricier for P4P, but it sounds like it's safer, too.

I always figured the zona was safe because it brought tourist $$ into Mexico's economy. Now I'm not so sure.

Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=Desertratco]I was in Tijuana back in early June and had no problems with rateros or other savory types. Has this problem been going on for long? I don't remember hearing much about it when I was there, even from the cabbies. So Constitucion is getting bad? What about the lower end between the callejon and Coahuila? Is that getting a little dangerous, too?

I was thinking of taking a weekender to SD and Tijuana for some fun in October, but I may change plans and go to Vegas. A little pricier for P4P, but it sounds like it's safer, too.

I always figured the zona was safe because it brought tourist $$ into Mexico's economy. Now I'm not so sure.

Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]The last couple of weeks it was getting extra crazy with those rateros but they just did a sweep and hauled off a lot of them.

Wait til closer to October and see how it is then.

They were getting so bad ,even the sw were getting robbed.

People are complaining so let wait and see how well TJ cops do their job.

Daytonamonger was there as the sweep was happening so he was lucky because a couple days earlier it might not have been so safe to roam like he did.

[QUOTE=Efjayel]Awesome report DM. :)

I'm still trying to figure out what the last word on your shirt said since it was blanked out. I'm guessing it should be a word that rhymes with "blue" but I can't think of one.[/QUOTE]FJL It rhymes with the word Itch.

[quote=sgt perv]all that you did for the price of $156.23. fantastic.

it just shows if you use your head , it does not have to be expensive. you even included a night in a hotel. actually it seems you only spent about $70 south of the border and got laid twice. you admit you knowingly ,willingly paid more than you had to. you definitely are in the lead for any $100 challenge. hell you could have gotten laid a third time with your method and had pesos left over. lol[/quote]i'm what you would call a "frugal" guy. i don't like to pay more than i have to for something (unless i've deemed the service worthy enough i'm a frugal guy, not an a$$hole. lol) some actually call me resourceful. especially my co-workers. some are stunned that i would get dental work done in tijuana at all. others are like way to use your head and save some money on a service that american dentists have decide to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you on.

i'm lookinig forward to going back again tommorow. i will get my final crown put on and hopefully i'll feel like heading to the zona. otherwise i'll do so the next morning.

daytona

[QUOTE=Desertratco]I was thinking of taking a weekender to SD and Tijuana for some fun in October, but I may change plans and go to Vegas. A little pricier for P4P, but it sounds like it's safer, too.

Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]Vegas has a plethora of p4p opportunities but none within the city limits. If you are caught with a prostitute you will most likely get arrested, or at least cited and given a court date. Legal Options are available outside city limits (Nearby Nye county) but you're going to pay anywhere from 300-1000 dollars for your session. For that price you could get laid for a week to a month in TJ.

If you need any vegas tips or pointers feel free to ask me. I can't PM anyone but I might be able to recieve them as i'm not a supporting member yet but I have gone to vegas for 3 days without spending more than 60 bucks on everything including a BBBJ from a girl on fremont. Thats one city you can do on the cheapy cheap with the proper planning.

Daytona

[QUOTE=Efjayel]"Let's not forget he went with Street girls only and for 15 minutes each with hardly any extras. Some might be okay with this, but 15 minute sessions, limited removal of clothing, two positions, etc, just don't cut it for me."[/QUOTE]Fjl.

Let's not forget that a comfortable 15 minute session with limited removal of clothing is a hellllll of a lot better than a 5 minute BBBJ done in your car while you're driving by a street girl who won't remove ANY clothing, and may or may not even complete the job before jumping out to get her next fix of heroin.

Donna was completely naked. And Melissa removed her bottoms but not her top. I'm sure I could have negotiated extras if I wanted them. I just wanted my cock in her pussy. Which is something I'd have to pay at least 100 bucks for here for a girl of Melissas age, beauty, and stature. Not to mention another 30-50 bucks for the hotel room as I do NOT take girls back to my house. Plus where I live is a 30 mile drive to the nearest mongering spot. Ever tried to take a street girl in LA 30 miles away from her stroll? You're likely to get stabbed. LOL.

Anyways. Just thought I'd say FJL does seem to contribute good info to the board however I'm still a (relative) newbie. I've scanned these boards since I was 18 (I'm 31 now) and have been mongering for a VERY long time. The map you posted helped me immensely on my first trip to the zona. Thanks for that buddy.

Daytona

[QUOTE=Desertratco]I was in Tijuana back in early June and had no problems with rateros or other savory types. Has this problem been going on for long? I don't remember hearing much about it when I was there, even from the cabbies. So Constitucion is getting bad? What about the lower end between the callejon and Coahuila? Is that getting a little dangerous, too?

I was thinking of taking a weekender to SD and Tijuana for some fun in October, but I may change plans and go to Vegas. A little pricier for P4P, but it sounds like it's safer, too.

I always figured the zona was safe because it brought tourist $$ into Mexico's economy. Now I'm not so sure.

Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

The current wave of muggers who choke guys is increasing but I've read archives of w s g and ISG from more than 10 years ago where it has always happened. What changes from time to time is the amount of police coverage and it was slacking off and the criminals were taking advantage of it.

I was there last weekend and the Coahuila block with AB and HK (and even over the CC) had decent police coverage and I felt safe as ever. I tend to stick with the bars, but the alley and Constitution between the alley and Coahuila didn't seem any more or less dangerous than ever. And I did see police walking the alley a few times which I didn't remember seeing as much of unless a crime happened than in the past.

Tijuana has always had crime and danger and probably always will. The key is to be alert and know your surroundings. I had a great time when I was there and wouldn't let a rash of muggings blocks away from Coahuila deter me from a night of fun.

[QUOTE=Desertratco]I was in Tijuana back in early June and had no problems with rateros or other savory types. Has this problem been going on for long? I don't remember hearing much about it when I was there, even from the cabbies. So Constitucion is getting bad? What about the lower end between the callejon and Coahuila? Is that getting a little dangerous, too?

I was thinking of taking a weekender to SD and Tijuana for some fun in October, but I may change plans and go to Vegas. A little pricier for P4P, but it sounds like it's safer, too.

I always figured the zona was safe because it brought tourist $$ into Mexico's economy. Now I'm not so sure.

Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

The muggings have happened for years. But it seems that it was mostly confined to nights, certain areas where the rateros and addicts were known to hang out, to very inebriated people, etc. Lately it has gotten extremely brazen. My assault happend at noon on a busy street (Constitucion). A week or two later 6 guys were mugged in the same approximate area in the space of a single day, during daylight hours. Of course, this was happening with absolutely no police presence.

I've not been able to return for a month, or so, but not due to mugging reasons. But I understand the cops have increased their presence substantially, at least at night.

The consensus now seems to be to take a cab directly to the door of a club. Then, to stay in the Coahuila area between the major clubs and/or the alley proper. Many are recommending to completely avoid Constitucion and Articulo 123. Then, take a cab out of the Zona to the border, or wherever you're staying.

The Mexicans aren't really concerned about how much money the ZN brings in, as far as I can tell. If it fell off the planet tomorrow, I'll bet there wouldn't be too many upset people.

[QUOTE=Phordphan] 6 guys were mugged in the same approximate area in the space of a single day, during daylight hours. Of course, this was happening with absolutely no police presence.
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Not sure what prompted it but Friday and Saturday several police trucks were sweeping through zona norte picking up any Mexican who looked suspicious. One shoe shine guy I spoke with last night said he was hauled in overnight. This happened to him a lot last year so it appears they are back on street sweeping patrol for awhile.

I would still proceed with caution to see how things pan out over the next few weeks.

[QUOTE=Dornyone]Yes FJL, we're all aware that you prefer to sit at home in LA and vicariously live other mongers' experiences and comment on them. More your line.[/QUOTE]


And you keep bringing this up, because... ?


[QUOTE=Daytonamonger]Fjl.

Let's not forget that a comfortable 15 minute session with limited removal of clothing is a hellllll of a lot better than a 5 minute BBBJ done in your car while you're driving by a street girl who won't remove ANY clothing, and may or may not even complete the job before jumping out to get her next fix of heroin.

Donna was completely naked. And Melissa removed her bottoms but not her top. I'm sure I could have negotiated extras if I wanted them. I just wanted my cock in her pussy. Which is something I'd have to pay at least 100 bucks for here for a girl of Melissas age, beauty, and stature. Not to mention another 30-50 bucks for the hotel room as I do NOT take girls back to my house. Plus where I live is a 30 mile drive to the nearest mongering spot. Ever tried to take a street girl in LA 30 miles away from her stroll? You're likely to get stabbed. LOL.

Anyways. Just thought I'd say FJL does seem to contribute good info to the board however I'm still a (relative) newbie. I've scanned these boards since I was 18 (I'm 31 now) and have been mongering for a VERY long time. The map you posted helped me immensely on my first trip to the zona. Thanks for that buddy.

Daytona[/QUOTE]

I have not dared to go with a SW in the states for safety reasons and LE reasons. With TJ somewhat nearby, I don't have to.

I know that some SG will remove all their clothing and some will not. In my experience they did half and half.

Also I find it hard to believe you've been "scanning these boards since" you where 18. That would be 1996 when AOL was king. I was still in high school then and probably you where too. lol :)

Hi im in San Diego on Buisness and wanted to explore the wonderful things down in TJ. I was wondering if I could find a wingman or a group as there are saftey in numbers to go mongering down in TJ. Also I do not have a passport but a birth certificate will that work on the border?

[QUOTE=Daytonamonger]PPN,

I forgot to mention. I work in the Airline Industry so I fly for free. All I'm out is my time. The only thing I have to pay for when I fly is chocolates to bribe the gate agents,flight attendants and pilots, and even then it's not neccesary to do so.

Daytona[/QUOTE]It all makes more sense now. Free travel is one hell of a bonus. Dental thing did not make sense with airfare and it explains the delays in flight.

Your PM power should work now. Check your control panel setting. I have tried to send you a pm and it says your is turned off. I thought it took senior status but when I checked the rule it says regular member have it also. Supposed to be automatic activation so maybe Jackson can help you.

I am all about being smart (frugal) with my pesos in the zona. No need to accept being "tourist fucked". Noway can you get the "local" price but you can damn sure get close on somethings.

Try a massage while you are in TJ (legit). Makes a world of difference and a nice way to relax after the dentist. $25 per hour of real massage. Make sure you get the "TJ price" and not the tourist price.

[QUOTE=Daytonamonger]I'm what you would call a "frugal" guy. I don't like to pay more than I have to for something (unless I've deemed the service worthy enough I'm a frugal guy, not an A$$hole. LOL) Some actually call me resourceful.

I'm lookinig forward to going back again tommorow. I will get my final crown put on and hopefully I'll feel like heading to the zona. Otherwise I'll do so the next morning.

Daytona[/QUOTE]The only other thing I would suggest other than the massage for a better trip would be to stay in TJ to eliminate travel time. You seem to stay aware and know the area ( not a fresh newbie). Staying in TJ would give you a more relaxed stay and better access to the different shifts of chicas. During the week ,as been reported, you can get a nice room at a nice hotel for what you spent on a US hotel.

Looking forward to Daytonamongers Next Great Adventure. :D

P.S. Try the fruit bars at the ice cream store, they have a serious fruit taste and are cheap.

[QUOTE=Super Gato]The current wave of muggers who choke guys is increasing but I've read archives of w s g and ISG from more than 10 years ago where it has always happened. What changes from time to time is the amount of police coverage and it was slacking off and the criminals were taking advantage of it.

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The muggings decreased dramatically with the opening and staffing of the police caseta across from the alley on Constitucion. I believe they will continue until the caseta is re opened.

[QUOTE=Efjayel]Also I find it hard to believe you've been "scanning these boards since" you where 18. That would be 1996 when AOL was king. I was still in high school then and probably you where too. lol :)[/QUOTE]I graduated high school in 1996. I picked up my first street girl in Daytona Beach, Florida 3 months afrer I graduated. 1 month after my 18th birthday. I have used online services (like prodigy,compuserv,aol,and GEnie etc.) since 1990. Back when you had to connect vis your phone line by a 1200 baud modem which was top of the line back then, since around 1990.

I have lurked the daytona,orlando,jacksonville boards for quite some time. Only recently have I begun to post however. Call it not wantint to air my dirty laundry or whatever you want to. The legality of the activity in the zona norte brought me to say hey I guess it's ok to talk about in the open as I'm not breaking any laws. Not so here in the states although due to my posting here I have begun posting some of my experiences on my florida area boards.

I assure you FJL....I'm a straight up guy, and I don't bullshit unless I openly tell you I'm bullshitting you. So yes I have lurked the board since the mid to late 90's.

Daytona

Ps. I'm on my way too Vegas right now. I got released in Atlanta and am on my way to vegas as we speak. Using the inflight internet connection to post this. When I get to vegas I''ll spend one night at hooters hotel and casino and head to SD in the morning. Can't wait to get there.