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But in reality, Cartagena is probably the worst mongering venue in Colombia.[/QUOTE]I agree however Cartagena is the closest thing you will get in comparison to the Su. Beach, independent chicas, tourist friendly, P4 P Pricing, Weather, Nightlife, and language barrier.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2616261]some of the Haitians can be very good, but I don't have much experience with them.
.[/QUOTE]Come on surfer look at you. You get one crazy psychopath Haitian and you're scared to return. Its been six or seven years now. Don't you remember how much you told me you enjoyed the sex? Did she put voodoo on you?
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2616941]Come on surfer look at you. You get one crazy psychopath Haitian and you're scared to return. Its been six or seven years now. Don't you remember how much you told me you enjoyed the sex? Did she put voodoo on you?[/QUOTE]You got it backwards, I did have one 1/2 Haitian / Dominican here in Sosua who would bang me silly all night that most definitely had a spell on me, but unfortunately I lost her contact info. Nothing wrong with a crazy psychopath nympho, but I did have a crazy psychopath Dominican in Boca Chica who posted my mug on billboards all around town wanting me dead or alive. When she discovered I had other Chicas she would of cut my dick off if she could.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2616938]I agree however Cartagena is the closest thing you will get in comparison to the Su. Beach, independent chicas, tourist friendly, P4 P Pricing, Weather, Nightlife, and language barrier.[/QUOTE]I agree with you, it is the closet thing to Sosua, but again the worst mongering venue in Colombia. Santa Marta is a better option and a lot cheaper, but not as user friendly as Cartagena. The difference being that in Cartagena the clients of the girls are foreigners, where as in other parts of the Country the clients are primarily locals.
But like I said, your right about Cartagena being the closest thing to Sosua and it; s unfortunate and I am forming my opinion now how much Sosua has gone downhill. It's very sad!
I just returned from Cartagena and its is not a nice place to vacation IMHO. The beaches are dirty and cocaine is everywhere however it beats Sosua as far as Chica selection.
[QUOTE=Adinga;2617119]I just returned from Cartagena and its is not a nice place to vacation IMHO. The beaches are dirty and cocaine is everywhere however it beats Sosua as far as Chica selection.[/QUOTE]I am in Sosua, it is a nice place 95% ugly girls, some stunners at Captain Bailees but the main problem is that DR is not a friendly place (at least in the tourist areas), I feel more comfortable in Colombia and its a way cheaper there.
Even the ATM 400 peso fee make me go back to Colombia sonner then planed. But not possible to compare Africans (DR) to European origins (Colombia).
Some people would say that the street walkers in Sosua ask for too much. But the reality is that these girls have to spend money to get there and be ready for the guys.
Example:
-If the girl is from Santo Domingo and goes for 3 days /2 nights she will spend $20 transport, $30 Hotel, $10 food, $50 heair and nails, $15 Clothes for a total: $125 dollars.
-If that girl has 4ST and 1 LT that would be about $250 dollars.
-So. That girl will get only about $125 dollars from getting laid with 5 different guys.
That's' why the prices are about US $45ST and US $100 LT.
-Then again, if the girl is arrested by the police (they can arrest anyone for 24 Hours without proof) then they will just lose all the investment. And it happens a lot, that's why you don't see many girls from Santiago or Santo Domingo and you see many Haitians that live in Sosua.
[QUOTE=KyoHiromitsu;2617597]Some people would say that the street walkers in Sosua ask for too much. But the reality is that these girls have to spend money to get there and be ready for the guys.[/QUOTE]And how is that the guys' problem? So I should go tell my boss I have to pay this much for my car note, this much for insurance, this much to change the oil, this much for a haircut, this much for a new suit, all to come to work? You act like the streets of Sosua are packed with superstars dressed to the nines when it ain't. So what is your reasoning for chicks in Santo Domingo or Punta Cana asking 5000 pesos?
A favorite line from one of my favorite movies when discussing about the costs of doing business, Tango said, "Well don't sell dope then Frank." First they tricked you into paying for them to get back and forth to "work", now they got you paying for hair and clothes too?
I think it was back in the 1920s when in the US restaurants and shit, in order to save on costs, stopped paying workers the normal wage and started paying them less and tricked customers to directly pay the difference in the form of tips. Today the workers in those same industries want the employer to start paying the normal wage again, but do you think they are going to want to forego the tips? No. They are going to expect both. The same as these hoes are expecting you to get them back and forth, feed them, get them drunk, pay them, AND give them tips!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2617691]And how is that the guys' problem?. The same as these hoes are expecting you to get them back and forth, feed them, get them drunk, pay them, AND give them tips![/QUOTE]He trying to justify the reason why street chicas are asking for more money! They don't need a reason! If times are good they will ask for more money. If times are bad they will ask for more money. These are hoes Sir. They don't need any justification.
He said all of that but yet to say better service. He really feels that way he can pay the difference for the rest of us.
[QUOTE=KyoHiromitsu;2617597]Some people would say that the street walkers in Sosua ask for too much. But the reality is that these girls have to spend money to get there and be ready for the guys.
Example:
-If the girl is from Santo Domingo and goes for 3 days /2 nights she will spend $20 transport, $30 Hotel, $10 food, $50 heair and nails, $15 Clothes for a total: $125 dollars.
-If that girl has 4ST and 1 LT that would be about $250 dollars.
-So. That girl will get only about $125 dollars from getting laid with 5 different guys.
That's' why the prices are about US $45ST and US $100 LT.
-Then again, if the girl is arrested by the police (they can arrest anyone for 24 Hours without proof) then they will just lose all the investment. And it happens a lot, that's why you don't see many girls from Santiago or Santo Domingo and you see many Haitians that live in Sosua.[/QUOTE]Your prices are close, but chicas usually stay with friends, or share the cost of a cheap hotel room. They are usually also paying for babysitting back home.
Sosua is a convenient (and legal) market for both hookers and mongers. Within a 15 minute walk I can cover the entire scene, beaches, bars, clubs, restaurants, casino. Lots of interaction between customers and providers.
Sosua hookers come from all regions of DR, and Haiti, and mongers come from all over the world.
The hookers range from hard core SWs to high end part timers. The SWs are low priced quickies of unreliable quality who work on volume. They charge what the market will bear.
High enders are better organized, with a contact list of reliable regulars and work from their phone. They charge on a different scale, and will mix business with pleasure. Dinner, a day at the beach, or a week at your hotel. GFE.
The mongers range from pennypinchers on a tight budget, to weekend warriors that come to party, and will spend money to make it happen. In the middle are newbies, who are just finding their way. One guy is happy getting a 500 peso BJ in the banyo, while the next guy wants her to go home with him.
When talking about prices, I always go back to the restaurant analogy. You can dscuss the average price of a hamburger, good steak, or lobster, but pussy, just like food, varies in quality and how it is served up, so there's always a disparity in what one guy is willing to pay for what he really wants. There's no one set price for "a meal".
What I really want is beautiful young ladies like I see on TV. I got that in Sosua. One of my favorite ways to spend an afternoon is to join a few of my bartender friends at the beach, or after work at a bar with music. I don't have to "entertain" them, they entertain me and each other, and yes, I pick up the tab for the drinks and the food within reason. We often draw a crowd, so before it gets out of hand I call for mi cuenta por favor. I may or may not finish up fucking them, usually not. Me, I'm just having a good time in good company, and I'm usually the first one to check out. Some guys would call that being ripped off, LOL.
My advice on prices, always comes down to this. Make sure you get YOUR value for your money, not somebody else's value. (And be nice to anybody you share bodily fluids with, or serves you food.).
[QUOTE=KyoHiromitsu;2617597]Some people would say that the street walkers in Sosua ask for too much. But the reality is that these girls have to spend money to get there and be ready for the guys.
Example:
-If the girl is from Santo Domingo and goes for 3 days /2 nights she will spend $20 transport, $30 Hotel, $10 food, $50 heair and nails, $15 Clothes for a total: $125 dollars.
-If that girl has 4ST and 1 LT that would be about $250 dollars.
-So. That girl will get only about $125 dollars from getting laid with 5 different guys.
That's' why the prices are about US $45ST and US $100 LT.
-Then again, if the girl is arrested by the police (they can arrest anyone for 24 Hours without proof) then they will just lose all the investment. And it happens a lot, that's why you don't see many girls from Santiago or Santo Domingo and you see many Haitians that live in Sosua.[/QUOTE]Then how do their sisters in Brazil or Colombia (aside from Cartagena) manage to sell their wares without asking "for too much"? They also, I presume, have expenses, no?
The GrownMan's doctrine sounds like a much better explanation to me, LOL.
[QUOTE=KyoHiromitsu;2617597]So. That girl will get only about $125 dollars from getting laid with 5 different guys.
That's' why the prices are about US $45ST and US $100 LT.[/QUOTE]$125 in 3 days is $833 a month when working 5 days a week, right? That is twice the average income and more than an architect earns.
I am in Sosua right now. Its my first time and my last time. I don't have a problem to pay $45 or $100. But what I get for my money is bull.
[QUOTE=KyoHiromitsu;2617597]Some people would say that the street walkers in Sosua ask for too much. But the reality is that these girls have to spend money to get there and be ready for the guys.
Example:
-If the girl is from Santo Domingo and goes for 3 days /2 nights she will spend $20 transport, $30 Hotel, $10 food, $50 heair and nails, $15 Clothes for a total: $125 dollars.
-If that girl has 4ST and 1 LT that would be about $250 dollars.
-So. That girl will get only about $125 dollars from getting laid with 5 different guys.
That's' why the prices are about US $45ST and US $100 LT.
-Then again, if the girl is arrested by the police (they can arrest anyone for 24 Hours without proof) then they will just lose all the investment. And it happens a lot, that's why you don't see many girls from Santiago or Santo Domingo and you see many Haitians that live in Sosua.[/QUOTE]I have met out of town girls many times in Sosua. Far away places like LA vega, Santo Domingo, Santiago, Nagua etc. No, they do not spend lot of money to get there or for staying or for pruning themselves.
They have their own network. Some stayed with so called Auntie houses paying very little money. Most out of Townes are hoping to shack up with you and avoid paying for stay. Food on the street costs very little. They get lucky if they are with me or someone like me who treats them with a nice dinner. Almost all of them are really hungry because eating street food is not filling. Doing their hair, nails etc, there are very cheap places in charamico. Many a times I have dropped them there while I go for a massage and pick them up later. They do not go to the places we go and even if they do they negotiate and pay half the price. One girl took me to a low end massage place but I would not partake because it was dirty and stinky. If I find a nice friendly girl I tend to keep them for a few days and I always rent a car.
In general their outlay in minimal. They are very careful investing lot of money hoping to catch a money dodo who will pay asking price and more. Many of them do not get any customers. Especially with tourism way down they will not make a trip.
Yes, asking price has gone up like inflation everywhere. Few years ago massage for one hour was $6 dollars and with tip used to come to $10. Now it is with tip $25 in a nice clean place.
Negotiations is the name of the game.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2618031]....They get lucky if they are with me or someone like me who treats them with a nice dinner. Almost all of them are really hungry because eating street food is not filling....[/QUOTE]I cannot understand men who would begrudge a woman a meal. One has to be a really sad individual to be so mean. Its food after all, not a scam. It won't break the bank. A woman needs to eat to maintain her health and we all want to bed healthy women, do we? I have no problem having lunch or dinner with a woman even if I don't end up in bed with her. I much prefer to dine with company than by myself. Jeez, some people!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2617945]Then how do their sisters in Brazil or Colombia (aside from Cartagena) manage to sell their wares without asking "for too much"? They also, I presume, have expenses, no?
The GrownMan's doctrine sounds like a much better explanation to me, LOL.[/QUOTE]Its because pretty girls tend to be arrested when they go. I have talked to them plenty of times and they tell me that they are never going back. I have also been told by the police "I will throw you on the truck bed". Any SW in Sosua will have to run from the police 7 times in a single day. Its not funny.
Most girls that stay there are full time SW living in Sosua. 10 years ago it was different. Many girls from everywhere and no police harassing them.
I get really mad at the police there, they are bad mannered.
Lets see what happens now, there is a new Japanese descendant tourism police chief and a new Chinese descendant police chief, in some months things may change.