Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2599746]To his credit, Explorer6969 seems to take all the salt in stride and doesn't appear much affected by the peanut gallery. This is the proper reaction to criticism, and if nothing else Explorer93679 has shown good humor and circumspection in the face of the many barbs thrown his way, and for this I will grant him the respect due another man.[/QUOTE]That is a very poignant comment kudos for this post.

The way Explorer6969 takes criticism is a credit to himself. I wish more people on this board would have the same attitude.

There used to be a lot of talk about livestreams in Pattaya, but they have mostly been hit by the police, and the equipment confiscated. Ever wonder what happens to the confiscated equipment?

There is reportedly a new livestream in Pattaya, operated by a policeman, using confiscated equipment. His girlfriend is a bargirl, and she used her network to track down illicit livestreams, and the boyfriend grabbed the equipment to run his own livestream. She must be busy, she hasn't come to my place for a while for her weekly tune-up.

No, I don't know how to find the new livestream, it might be for Thai customers.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2599541]But her friends that she spends time with from the bar group have likely visited.[/QUOTE]She doesn't work bar, she works in a factory. Her Thai boyfriend moved back to Isaan a couple of days before her first quarantine began.

Either she got infected by some random Thai man she had visit during her home isolation, or she had an incubation period of 16+ days. Anyway, she is hospitalized in Chaiyaphum now.

My point here is that Covid is rampant now. It's one of the reasons that ladies come to my place, I am fully vaccinated with Moderna, whereas they don't know the status of random customers. The ladies don't want to get infected just when vaccinations here are starting up.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2599856]My point here is that Covid is rampant now. It's one of the reasons that ladies come to my place, I am fully vaccinated with Moderna, whereas they don't know the status of random customers. The ladies don't want to get infected just when vaccinations here are starting up.[/QUOTE]LOL. Fortunately (or unfortunately) they don't know that does not mean a damn thing. I know more people that have gotten Covid since being vaccinated, than people like me that have never been vaccinated yet have not gotten it. A friend that was vaccinated in April said he just got over it and it was the worst 2 weeks of his life.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2599875]LOL. Fortunately (or unfortunately) they don't know that does not mean a damn thing. I know more people that have gotten Covid since being vaccinated, than people like me that have never been vaccinated yet have not gotten it. A friend that was vaccinated in April said he just got over it and it was the worst 2 weeks of his life.[/QUOTE]Of course you can still get COVID even with the vaccine, but it tends not to progress beyond a small infection. The outcomes between those vaccinated and those unvaccinated are huge. You are many times more likely to get hospitalized or die if you are not vaccinated.

The delta variant is more contagious than chicken pox, which is crazy contagious. If we are going to use anecdotes to make points, I know several people who have gotten COVID with the vaccine and none of them have had more than sniffles and a low grade fever. On the other hand, I know people who got it before the vaccine existed and several died.

The data is very clear on this from multiple large studies. Maybe your friend would be dead without the vaccine.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2599875]LOL. Fortunately (or unfortunately) they don't know that does not mean a damn thing. I know more people that have gotten Covid since being vaccinated, than people like me that have never been vaccinated yet have not gotten it. A friend that was vaccinated in April said he just got over it and it was the worst 2 weeks of his life.[/QUOTE]If you are suggesting that vaccination for Covid doesn't protect against infection, you are both mistaken and off topic.

In Real Life here, I know ladies who refuse to work in restaurants until they are fully vaccinated.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2598926]And no pictures The one we saw is one who didn't partake, so what? We can all throw in hundreds of images of girls we didn't partake. Not to mention the constant referral to a bar where the staff is not homogenous.

Fantasy is fading also for the most prolific writers.[/QUOTE]Maggie Mays is part of a group of bars that employ dozens of ladies.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2600017]If you are suggesting that vaccination for Covid doesn't protect against infection, you are both mistaken and off topic.

In Real Life here, I know ladies who refuse to work in restaurants until they are fully vaccinated.[/QUOTE]I am not suggesting anything. The experts have always said vaccination does not protect against infection or spreading. What it does is hopefully keep you from having severe symptoms and dying if you do get it. And since the delta variant even that ain't working out too well. Do your own research.

Feel free to watch from minute 40 to 41 of this White House briefing from a couple weeks ago.

[url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ciVGAPuruoQ&t=854s[/url]

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/keythingstoknow.html?s_cid=10493:cdc%20covid%20vaccine:sem.ga:p:RG:GM:gen:PTN:FY21[/URL]

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2600017]If you are suggesting that vaccination for Covid doesn't protect against infection, you are both mistaken and off topic.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with this very poignant comment. I have been fully vaxxed with Pfizer (got it about 3 months ago) and would not be seeing girls if I was not vaccinated. With the amount of guys the girls that frequent Pattaya see, it would be very risky to rumble with bargirls unvaxxed.

While the US has the luxury of oversupply of vaccines, almost all Thai people are very keen to be vaccinated and scrambling for decent mRna vaccines.

There is currently a big scandal here where large quantities of Sinovac were purchased for $19 a shot while the list price is closer to $11. The difference allegedly being pocketed by government officials. Adding to this most Thai people don't want to have Sinovac as it is probably the least effective of the major vaccines. Everyone here wants Pfizer or Moderna.

The whole vaccinationation / mask wearing argument is just ridiculous in the USA at the moment. Unlike any other intelligent western country. If you google "what percentage of covid hospitalizations are vaccinated" and then go to any of the proper scientific sites. The stats will come back 95% of people in hospital with covid are unvaccinated. Less than 5% of those in hospitals are fully vaccinated. Why is there even a debate on this topic?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2600049]I am not suggesting anything. The experts have always said vaccination does not protect against infection or spreading. What it does is hopefully keep you from having severe symptoms and dying if you do get it. And since the delta variant even that ain't working out too well. Do your research.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/keythingstoknow.html?s_cid=10493:cdc%20covid%20vaccine:sem.ga:p:RG:GM:gen:PTN:FY21[/URL][/QUOTE]The document you cited above from the CDC directly contradicts what you said.

A direct quote from [URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/keythingstoknow.html?s_cid=10493:cdc%20covid%20vaccine:sem.ga:p:RG:GM:gen:PTN:FY21[/URL].

What we know: COVID-19 vaccines are effective against severe disease and death from variants of the virus that causes COVID-19 currently circulating in the United States, including the Delta variant.

Infections happen in only a small proportion of people who are fully vaccinated, even with the Delta variant. When these infections occur among vaccinated people, they tend to be mild.

Is Thailand still buying Sinovac or have all the new purchases switched to something different?

My friends are saying things consistent with the report from MaxBKK. Thai people are left in an awkward position. They are refusing an available vaccine now in hopes that they can get the Pfizer or Moderna in the future. I also have 1 friend who prepaid for Moderna but got the Astra Zeneca because it was available.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2599746]Mostly I have enjoyed the posts.....[/QUOTE]Well said. So have I.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2600017]If you are suggesting that vaccination for Covid doesn't protect against infection, you are both mistaken and off topic.

In Real Life here, I know ladies who refuse to work in restaurants until they are fully vaccinated.[/QUOTE]So what's your point? They can think it's important to be vaccinated and yet be wrong.

In real life here, I know people who got vaccinated to just be allowed to go eat in restaurants.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2599915]Maybe your friend would be dead without the vaccine.[/QUOTE]Yeah and maybe his friend wouldn't have been sick if he hadn't been vaccinated.

Your just repeating what the msm is saying for months.

As we say, repeat a lie multiple times and one day you're going to believe it yourself.

[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2600052]I have been fully vaxxed with Pfizer (got it about 3 months ago) and would not be seeing girls if I was not vaccinated.[/QUOTE]Don't forget to get your appointment for the third jab in 3 months, and for the fourth in 9 months as your indispensable vaccine is losing its efficiency quicker than what you've been told.