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Dominicans aren't hands on pimps. They might be sitting on a motochoncho or passing out change, but they are watching everything. It's not like America where the pimps wear the fancy outfits and drive outlandish cars.
Any gringo that doesn't speak Spanish and says if he lived there pussy would be free is talking crazy.
Now Cuba pimps in Cuba are another story. They will actually follow you and the girl and make their presence known. Completely rude dudes.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2639807]I think if I lived in the DR I could get all the quote free pussy wanted.[/QUOTE]There is no need to live somewhere to get free pussy. I get all the free pussy that I can stand and I do not live there. You go just as much as me, but you have specifically stated that you do not want free pussy so you look for chicks to pay or to give gifts. I look for normal chicks with normal jobs to get to know and hang out with them. If by chance that I want to do some mongering then I know where to find it.
There is another guy in the Medellin thread saying that because he does not live there he can not better chicks. Another poster put up fotos saying that he did not live there but look at all the better chicks he is able to get.
Not living somewhere is no excuse for anything. There is no magic that comes with living somewhere, especially when you are a regular visitor anyway. If living somewhere meant anything then you would be balls deep in free pussy in your own town.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2639807]Expats seem to think weekend warriors are crazy to pay 3000 pesos because they have some local girls who will go for 1000 pesos.[/QUOTE]Most expats will be the first to admit that their 1000 pesos stables arent at the level you will see in Baileys. They have 5&6's who come by the house for 500 peso BJs and 1000 pesos fucks.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2639807]The nature of Sosua makes it easy for girls to freelance. Most girls come in on Thursday and are back home Monday. Girls do not need pimps. The girls do not really trust one another. They do talk and try to set some pricing standards but that go out the window when baby need milk. It is a buyers market. When you walk into Baillees there about 5 girls waiting to get in because the restaurant limits how many girls can get in. When you walk in on your right are about 8 girls at tables looking for work. On your left you will see 10 to 15 on the back rows. Sprinkled throughout restaurant another 10 to 20 girls depending on time of day. These girls are competing for customers. Usually there are less then 20 potential customers. The girls try hard to get the attention of the guys posted up. On the street there are girls who will go for 1500 but they are the serious hardcore dominican and very poor haitian girls. Nobody should pay 5000 pesos for short time from the girls in Baillees. Expats seem to think weekend warriors are crazy to pay 3000 pesos because they have some local girls who will go for 1000 pesos. I think if I lived in the DR I could get all the quote free pussy wanted. Prices have gone up but 60 dollars for the quality of girls will still get my ass on a plane 6 o'clock in morning with a smile on my face.[/QUOTE]Love all this talk about free pussy, LOL.
If it means walking up to any chick you see, and fucking her on the spot, that ain't happening.
If it's sex with someone you know or have met, it takes game to set up a sexual relationship, with all that it entails. Yeah, most guys can do that if they want to spend the effort. There's always a quid quo pro. Even Rock Stars and Sheiks have to keep their harem happy, with favors. Read how much trouble Hugh Hefner had with his "free" pussy.
Now, there maybe chica's out there who'll give it up any time you knock on the door, like I had, when I was younger, but unless something is coming back to her besides dick, like emotional or financial support, gifts, dinners, rides, unless she's a brain dead zomby, it won't last long.
"Free pussy" is like the "Free lunch".
Is it really free?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2639789]I can attest to this. Some of the hottest hookers I've seen were at Classicos. They fancied themselves though. When Classicos and Rhumbas were rocking were great mongering moments.[/QUOTE]Don't forget about the latin. There was a period of about 3 years when classico was closed. Rumba and the latin were banging and it was a great time! Or sit outside a el Toro and watch the chicas rotate and pull who you liked. That was when sosua really was sosua! The fyne bartenders at winners circle would all be dressed nice but dance like strippers! Those were the days!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2639789]I can attest to this. Some of the hottest hookers I've seen were at Classicos. They fancied themselves though. When Classicos and Rhumbas were rocking were great mongering moments.[/QUOTE]True. I remember when dudes were intimidated to go into Clasicos because the ratio was like 20 to 1 and you literally had 20 babes grabbing your d*ck when you walked around. Chicas got dressed up on the weekends to hit Clasicos and Merengue Bar and the other ones along the strip were also great for picking up talent and also the girls that worked at the bars. Rumbas was heaven for a period and always a great spot to find some afternoon delight. But, back then you had Pasions, CMP and many other little strip bars and also the buildings were chicas used to live. Those were good times. Even Puerto Plata was hoppin with Long Beach. Glad I was able to experience those days. Just like Times Square when the mafia ran all the sex establishments. Those days are long gone.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2639818]Dominicans aren't hands on pimps. They might be sitting on a motochoncho or passing out change, but they are watching everything. It's not like America where the pimps wear the fancy outfits and drive outlandish cars.
Any gringo that doesn't speak Spanish and says if he lived there pussy would be free is talking crazy.
Now Cuba pimps in Cuba are another story. They will actually follow you and the girl and make their presence known. Completely rude dudes.[/QUOTE]I have always wonder if the reasons sosua girls don't usually do BBBJ is because of their pimps aka boyfriend. There is a bar near Ahvnee with blue lights I went there every night when I was there for just a drink and you could see working girls with their boyfriends. Dominican girls seem very business oriented to me just don't get it why they would give their money to some broke boyfriend unless they have children together.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2639979]I have always wonder if the reasons sosua girls don't usually do BBBJ is because of their pimps aka boyfriend. There is a bar near Ahvnee with blue lights I went there every night when I was there for just a drink and you could see working girls with their boyfriends. Dominican girls seem very business oriented to me just don't get it why they would give their money to some broke boyfriend unless they have children together.[/QUOTE]It's something to think about, but I think Dominican dudes only care about them bringing home the money. Five years ago BBBJ was the norm. I just thought the girls were worried about STDs. Bravo for going to that Dominican spot by Ahnvee, not many foreign guys go there.
IMO it's a male dominated society, the Dominican dudes are worshipped and spoiled. My main lady has two sons, ages 10 and 18. The one that's 10 years old is my dude, he cries if I leave the house without him. The 18 yo is lazy as fuck and makes fucked up choices, not responsible for shit. I tell him to take out the trash and his momma does it, he waits for his momma to fill up his phone minutes, he doesn't work, and he does stupid shit like brings home a stray dog when they already have one stray. He has no plan to ever get a job and it forces me to stay away from him and lean more towards the little one. I know as the little one gets older he will become his brother because I'm teaching him against the culture and I will lose.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2639979]Dominican girls seem very business oriented to me just don't get it why they would give their money to some broke boyfriend unless they have children together.[/QUOTE]As long as there have been hookers there have been pimps. I guess you have never loved someone so much that you would do anything for them. You really think those lazy chicks would be able to manage themselves and the money alone? A lot of mongers give hookers way too much credit. Like the guy in another thread that got stolen from two amd a half times on the same trip talking about he can't understand why they want to steal. There is a reason they are hookers in the first place, and it has nothing to do with milk for a starving baby.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2639828] "Free pussy" is like the "Free lunch".[/QUOTE]Evidently many in this forum also believe in Tooth Fairies, Santa Claus and what have you. " Free pussy". Yeah right!
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2639979]I have always wonder if the reasons sosua girls don't usually do BBBJ is because of their pimps aka boyfriend. There is a bar near Ahvnee with blue lights I went there every night when I was there for just a drink and you could see working girls with their boyfriends. Dominican girls seem very business oriented to me just don't get it why they would give their money to some broke boyfriend unless they have children together.[/QUOTE]Down here, the reality is that local guys face a bleak future. Very little employment for males, except in menial jobs. It starts at the airport when you come in. Girls behind the counters, and the guys scrambling to carry your bags.
When you do business here you are mostly dealing with females, shops, banks, pharmacies, hotels, restaurants.
So what do chicas have that the males don't? The Golden Goose, fresh pussy at 8 o bucks a crack. More than most guys here make in a month.
What's the attraction, then for a chica for a local boyfriend?
I've spent most of my time down here, interacting with locals and their extended families. They stay close to each other, one big network.
While the chica is selling pussy on Saturday night in Bailey's she is the Queen, can make a couple hundred bucks a night, and much more. She needs dependable local chicos to ferry her around, and generally look out for her.
But she's can't sell pussy 24/7, and stay healthy and sane, or even out of trouble. She's dealing with family problems, and lord, there are many, as we all know.
When the weekend warriors go home, the WU dries up, or she gets sick, fatter, older, or pregnant, (and they age quick down here) she needs that support network, which consists of family, and boyfriends.
The guys are mostly gofers, not pimps. As the OP says, freelance chica's don't need pimps, prostitution is legal here. But they do need a guy to bail them out, if the cops decide to round them up on a random corrupt police Saturday night "street clean up", or some crazed drunk monger gets out of hand! Or decides the service was not worth paying for, or more often a jealous hard core puta. (Those are the ones you hear screaming on the streets at 2 AM).
In my 12 years of banging local pussy, I never had any interaction with any pimp, except the guy who picks her up and takes her home. She takes care of him, and he takes care of her, but while she is working and producing she's in control! You make your deals with her, not the moto guy, unless you are really a naive newbie who needs help to find a chica in one big brothel, LOL.
As usual IMHO.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2640013]I know as the little one gets older he will become his brother because I'm teaching him against thhe culture and I will lose.[/QUOTE]Yeah I highly doubt that. No way will you lose. You're teaching that kid values thatll stick with him for his whole life. No culture / person can stay stuck on stupid forever and by you being there hes literally seeing that theres another way in how to act and behave as a man.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2639979]..... Dominican girls seem very business oriented to me just don't get it why they would give their money to some broke boyfriend unless they have children together.[/QUOTE]Women are always more comfortable with men who grew up in their culture, speak their language, like and dance to their music, eat and know about their food, is intimately knowledgeable about events in their town and country life. In other words can have continually interesting conversations with them. When a local sees a gringo with cash they see only the cash and will do what is required to get at it. The females have an easier time of it than the males unless the target is a mature horny gringa. So the unsuccessful gigolo will turn to pimping. Similarly, American men will pimp American women, Romanian men will pimp Romanian women and so on.
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2640176]Yeah I highly doubt that. No way will you lose. You're teaching that kid values thatll stick with him for his whole life.[/QUOTE]You are right. That kid sticks to him like glue. If you see Gogo, then you see that kid. Gogo tells him to do something and he happily does it quickly. That boy is like the karate kid. He seems relieved to have someone to lead and teach him in is life.
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Cost has gone up all over the world. Deal with it or get out of the hobby. Cannot blame other mongers. Some splurge but they are a minority.[/QUOTE]I definitely agree with your and initial assessment. However, I'm so glad my deputy warden never told me that inmates are out of hand all over the institution. Don't blame other officers. They only make up a minority. Deal with it or change your profession.
I'm glad he saw I wanted to be a part of the solution. I took my job seriously and wanted to protect what I was a part of.