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[QUOTE=Spidy;2958794]
Russian Putin, "dick sucking, dick sucking", is a skill set, he certainly has in abundance! [i][b](...kkkk)[/b][/i]
Good luck MAGA and best of luck to Ukraine![/QUOTE]The only cock sucker is in Ukraine and he already made his first call to say all holes are wide open.
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[QUOTE=Riina;2959389]The only cock sucker is in Ukraine and he already made his first call to say all holes are wide open.[/QUOTE]I respectfully (LOL) disagree. There are tens of thousands of cocksuckers in Ukraine who are:
- sent to one-way meat assaults daily (an average life of a Russian meat-stormer is 1 month);.
- or paying their commanders and their thugs for NOT being sent to meat assaults;.
- or thrown into the pits and getting tortured until they agree to go into meat assaults;.
- or thrown into the pits and getting tortured until they agree to pay.
Why are these Russian soldiers cocksuckers you ask? Because rather than cutting their so-called commanders' throats for being treated like little cocksuckers, they wait until AFU do their job for them.
[B]Notorious Russian general who tortured own troops killed on motorbike by Ukrainian drone[/B]
[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/notorious-russian-general-who-tortured-own-troops-killed-on-motorbike-by-ukrainian-drone/ar-AA1tKsQ6?ocid=BingNewsSerp[/URL]
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The only thing US Ukrainians are talking about after the election is deportation. Crickets on the end of foreign help.
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[QUOTE=Riina;2959689]The only thing US Ukrainians are talking about after the election is deportation. Crickets on the end of foreign help.[/QUOTE]Can't wait to see what will happen to the Russians.
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Lol
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2956758]Food for thought? You think Kamala went to Harvard? Where did you get that bird brained idea?
She went to law school in California, and it was not at Stanford, Berkley, USC, or UCLA. She went to UC Hastings.
And she failed the California bar exam the first time she took it.
What else does she have besides BJ skills?[/QUOTE]Yea the Harvard part was a mistake, but it all begs the question, what do have to offer but BJs when you literally spend half of your life, arguing politics on hooker forum free for all threads that hardly anyone reads? That in itself is a BJ, or circle jerk, depending on your preferred terminology.
And you look like a complete fool when you say the world is currently engaged in World War 3 because North Korea sent a few thousand troops to help Russia. You completely dodged that point because you were impaled by it.
But at little Tiny mind considers you an "independent thinker. " Collecting and rapidly embracing information from Russian propaganda and other spurious online sources makes "a free thinker to the run of the mill dumbass about these days.
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2956756]Here is a novel idea, Paulie. You go fight for Ukraine and let Americans volunteer to have their tax dollars be sent to Ukraine or not.[/QUOTE]Yes, you cowardly have made this same fallacious argument under one of your other user names. If a foreign country invades my country, and especially my neighborhood, I will fight, though with some limitations as I am up in years.
The US supports democracy, especially in Europe, and Ukraine wants to fight. Our support though has limited.
And you claim that hurricane aid has been sparse and largely witheld is a lie that you choose to believe from highly biased sources, while you avoid any fact checking.
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[QUOTE=BloodRed;2959144]Hopefully Trump plays a part in putting an end to this savage needless war. I don't think the Russians will be interested in a frozen conflict type of deal where NATO continues to arm Ukraine and says Ukraine won't join NATO for say 20 years. Not going to have any of that non sense.[/QUOTE]NATO isn't going to exclude Ukarine, or any other country for 20 years or any other length of time. It"s against the charter.
Ultimately Trump is going to prove a lot less help for Russia than you, Tiny, and Elvis are hoping.
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[QUOTE=Questner;2959388]Ukrainian reconciliation. IN BRIEF: What President Putin told the Valdai discussion club:
The West has brought the situation to a coup in Ukraine and forced Russia to begin the special military operation. In this sense, it achieved its goal: "Our opponents find new ways, instruments, trying to get rid of us. Now, they use Ukraine as such instrument, they use Ukrainians, whom they shamelessly drill against Russians, effectively turning them into cannon fodder. ".
Kiev received orders from overseas to hold the ground in Russia's Kursk Region at all costs until the US presidential election. As a result, Kiev lost over 30,000 troops over more than three months of hostilities - "more than the Kiev regime's total losses during the entire year of 2023. ".
Good-neighborly relations between Russia and Ukraine are impossible without Kiev's neutrality. This is the main precondition to make sure that Ukraine does not become an instrument in someone else's hands: "The basic preconditions for the normalization of relations will not be established, and the situation would unfold by an unpredictable scenario. We would very much like to avoid it. ".
The border between Ukraine and Russia should run along the line determined by the sovereign decision of the residents of Donbass and Novorossiya who joined Russia following the results of the referendum: "Everything depends on the dynamics of the ongoing events. ".
Moscow is ready for peace talks on Ukraine, based not on Kiev's "wishlists that change from month to month but <. On the situation on the ground and the agreements that were reached in Istanbul. ".
Ukraine needs not a temporary truce, but a long-term settlement, which is crucial for the two brotherly peoples: "It should not be about a truce for half an hour or six months, just for shells to be delivered there. We should create favorable conditions for restoring relations and future cooperation in the interests of the two peoples, which are certainly brotherly, no matter how much the situation has been complicated by rhetoric and today's tragic events. ".
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Source: [URL]https://tass.com/politics/1869419[/URL].[/QUOTE]This is Russian propaganda. Why not post it in the Russia forum, the far more appropriate place for you, Blood Red, Tiny, and Elvis to hangout?
The democratically elected legislative, according to the Ukrainian constitution, removed a corrupt leader. It wasn't a "coup. " This "president Putin" you talk about is a cold blooded murderer that kills his political opponents, beats up and jails peaceful protestors, and targets civilians in an illegal invasion of his neighbor.
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[QUOTE=Paulie97;2959991]This is Russian propaganda. Why not post it in the Russia forum, the far more appropriate place for you, Blood Red, Tiny, and Elvis to hangout?
The democratically elected legislative, according to the Ukrainian constitution, removed a corrupt leader. It wasn't a "coup. " This "president Putin" you talk about is a cold blooded murderer that kills his political opponents, beats up and jails peaceful protestors, and targets civilians in an illegal invasion of his neighbor.[/QUOTE]Notice, that they never ever post a word about the war in Russian forums, only Ukrainian places. There is a reason for that.
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[QUOTE=Questner;2959388]
Good-neighborly relations between Russia and Ukraine are impossible without Kiev's neutrality. [/QUOTE]This is just blabla. Look at Moldova: Neutrality is written in their constitution. But Red Army troops on Moldovian soil, though.
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Spineless aka Tiny
That is my best nickname for Tiny, who says Elvis is a "free thinker," well how much fact checking do you think Elvis does? You are a syrupy, nauseating insult to true intellectuals, who by definition test the claims. They don't just believe it when some big mouth YouTuber lays out his latest provocative and spurious argument. They don't just swallow Trump's millionth lie. They fact check.
It's like the Marquis de Twot, and this stupid moron I met here in Medellin in Sweet Georgia Cafe who said he was a Marine. Well that's exactly what they mostly want in the Marines is meat heads. But he was going on about how Biden got so many more votes than Kamala, as proof of a stolen 2020 election. Okay got it, so I asked the 80 IQ guy where he thought all the extra votes came from in 2020, and he of course said illegals. Then I asked his dumbfuck ass why these illegals, who are now greater in numbers, didn't steal the latest election. He had no answer, so I guess he's only left with Jewish space lasers, or whatever hogwash Elvis can pull off the blogs. But that's free thought according to Spineless.
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[QUOTE=Paulie97;2959991]This is Russian propaganda. Why not post it in the Russia forum, the far more appropriate place for you, Blood Red, Tiny, and Elvis to hangout?
The democratically elected legislative, according to the Ukrainian constitution, removed a corrupt leader. It wasn't a "coup. " This "president Putin" you talk about is a cold blooded murderer that kills his political opponents, beats up and jails peaceful protestors, and targets civilians in an illegal invasion of his neighbor.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2959972]NATO isn't going to exclude Ukarine, or any other country for 20 years or any other length of time. It"s against the charter.
Ultimately Trump is going to prove a lot less help for Russia than you, Tiny, and Elvis are hoping.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2959968]Yes, you cowardly have made this same fallacious argument under one of your other user names. If a foreign country invades my country, and especially my neighborhood, I will fight, though with some limitations as I am up in years.
The US supports democracy, especially in Europe, and Ukraine wants to fight. Our support though has limited.
And you claim that hurricane aid has been sparse and largely witheld is a lie that you choose to believe from highly biased sources, while you avoid any fact checking.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2959965]Yea the Harvard part was a mistake, but it all begs the question, what do have to offer but BJs when you literally spend half of your life, arguing politics on hooker forum free for all threads that hardly anyone reads? That in itself is a BJ, or circle jerk, depending on your preferred terminology.
And you look like a complete fool when you say the world is currently engaged in World War 3 because North Korea sent a few thousand troops to help Russia. You completely dodged that point because you were impaled by it.
But at little Tiny mind considers you an "independent thinker. " Collecting and rapidly embracing information from Russian propaganda and other spurious online sources makes "a free thinker to the run of the mill dumbass about these days.[/QUOTE]Neoconservative.
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[QUOTE=VinDici;2960089]Notice, that they never ever post a word about the war in Russian forums, only Ukrainian places. There is a reason for that.[/QUOTE]There's no Stupid Shit in Moscow thread.
This thread would be dead without posters like us. I guess from time to time the gentlemen with your view could give each other "attaboys" though. Although given how things have developed, they would now be few and far between.
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Questions
While I would particularly appreciate Blood Red's thoughts, any board member's [B]civil[/B] input would be appreciated.
The Telegraph and the Wall Street Journal recently broke a story based on reports from several unnamed Trump staffers. Trump's peace plans sound a lot like what J. D. Vance has been saying. Here's an outline.
The current line between the two sides would be frozen in place.
Ukraine would agree to shelve its ambition to join NATO for 20 years.
The USA And Europe would pump Ukraine full of weapons for purposes of deterrence.
The USA Would not contribute troops to patrol the buffer zone nor would it finance the mission. (I know, this conflicts with the previous point.) Instead Europeans would. The WSJ quotes an unnamed source, ""We can do training and other support but the barrel of the gun is going to be European. We are not sending American men and women to uphold peace in Ukraine. And we are not paying for it. Get the Poles, Germans, British and French to do it. ".
Do you think this plan is workable? A good starting point for negotiations? There are obvious aspects the Russians and Ukrainians won't like. And putting all the burden on the Europeans while the USA Is calling the shots would create problems. Are the Europeans going to be like UN peacekeepers? Or armed to the teeth? If the later then Russia would have NATO on its doorstep. That would probably be a nonstarter.
There's an interesting quote in the Telegraph article from George Osborne, who was David Cameron's Chancellor of the Exchequer and First Secretary of State:
"Is it realistic to expect a complete victory for Ukraine, the complete ejection of Russia from Ukrainian territory? And if it's not, you know, it may suit our vanity in the West to say 'plucky Ukrainians', but it's not our children who are dying," the former chancellor said.
It's also totally unrealistic, in my view, to think that Europe alone, including the UK, can go on supporting Ukraine without the support of the United States, even though Joe Biden actually is rushing to spend the $61 billion that Congress recently voted in terms of American aid for Ukraine before he leaves office. ".
[URL]https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/11/07/donald-trump-ukraine-peace-plan-british-troops-buffer-zone/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Paulie97;2959965]Yea the Harvard part was a mistake, [/QUOTE]The only questions your comment begs is why are you such a fucking liar and how many other times have you pulled shit out of your ass?