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[QUOTE=Olympo Host;1490058]Lovely Colombian women from Cali.[/QUOTE]If you want to get American clients you need to rethink your lineup. 4th pic with the chick to the far left is the only one that is going to get a lot of attention from most gringos. The rest of the gorditas have to go. Pay Aussie Greg a consulting fee if you must. To get some advice on what north American and European guys like. Think Victoria's Secret models and not Chicas Car Audio!
Just my advice and I hope you do well.
easy cali hentai,
just because they don't meet your taste (skinny as a rail flacas) that doesn't mean all north american and european men think like you. i don't see anything wrong with these women, plus they could have faces like angels. some men dig that. of course, cali hentai, since you're so critical of these women's bodies, maybe you could post some pictures of yourself in a speed-o. on seconds thought, please don't. wonder what the caleņas and paisas really think of you without that $100 dollar bill taped to your forehead. it always amazes me how older, normal looking, unstylish, out of shape men can be so critical of women's looks and figures.
Thanks for the advice Cali Hentai,
I really appreciate it. I do agree with you, in the sense that there is a tendency among American and Europeans for a certain look in girls, but I also like to think that is not necessarily a general rule, and that there are guys with different tastes for women, so I try to have a mixed lineup. I don't discriminate based on the Victoria Secret look, to be honest, in order to have quantity, but I also don't include any and every girl, which diminishes quality. There are other girls available in the catalog that are professional models and girls who are in fact Chicas Car Audio, but they won't do pictures for the catalog like the ones I posted as they're afraid people who know them in Colombia will find out. Some of them have already done pictures for the website lindapop. Com and they deeply regret it, so they are apprehensive about doing certain type of pictures. There are tons of hot women in Colombia who don't work in brothels or even do outcalls because of the fear of meeting someone who may recognize them and start the gossip, but when you tell them they only would work with Americans at a private secluded place where no one will know what they're doing, they love the idea and want to be part of it. There's a girl who is an odontologist, and another one who is a Medical student. Some are regular girls who are hot and want to use that to their advantage and make some extra income, but the idea that their family or friends find out that their doing P4P frightens them. I'll attach a couple pictures of other girls who are in the lineup.
My point is, the issue I'm having is not so much getting girls for the lineup, there are plenty who are hot and willing to work exclusively with americans (they love that idea). My problem has been more of a trust issue with clients. I'm looking to get guys that in the US and Europe pay $400 for an hour or $1000 for 3 hours and show them that in Colombia you get the same quality girl for a much longer period of time for the same price. The problem is that most of them have never been to Colombia and they have obvious red flags about traveling there. So right now for me is all about establishing that trust, and getting plenty of clients to come and see this is for real and provide them with an awesome experience so they come back and tell their friends.
Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated it, like yours Cali Hentai, thanks.
[QUOTE=Cali Hentai; 1490274]If you want to get American clients you need to rethink your lineup. 4th pic with the chick to the far left is the only one that is going to get a lot of attention from most gringos. The rest of the gorditas have to go. Pay Aussie Greg a consulting fee if you must. To get some advice on what north American and European guys like. Think Victoria's Secret models and not Chicas Car Audio!
Just my advice and I hope you do well.[/QUOTE]
that was exactly what i was trying to say, except without the bit of hostility, because i honestly appreciate cali hentai's input, and i do agree with him to some extent in the sense that i also believe there is somewhat of a general look americans and europeans are into, but to nino's point, to generalize on what every american and european is looking for in a woman's body is not right since every guy has different tastes. personally, i would do each and every girl that appear in the group picture, maybe it is because i have seen their faces and met them personally, but i can also understand how other guys wouldn't be into them, and that's fine. hopefully you guys like some of the ones i posted without the blurred faces, they are also part of the lineup.
[quote=nino bravo; 1490312]easy cali hentai,
just because they don't meet your taste (skinny as a rail flacas) that doesn't mean all north american and european men think like you. i don't see anything wrong with these women, plus they could have faces like angels. some men dig that. of course, cali hentai, since you're so critical of these women's bodies, maybe you could post some pictures of yourself in a speed-o. on seconds thought, please don't. wonder what the caleņas and paisas really think of you without that $100 dollar bill taped to your forehead. it always amazes me how older, normal looking, unstylish, out of shape men can be so critical of women's looks and figures.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Olympo Host;1490363]I'll attach a couple pictures of other girls who are in the lineup.[/QUOTE]You understand that the pictures you posted can be quickly and easily searched for on the web, right? Sorry to suggest it if it is not the case, but my first impression is you may just be taking these photographs off individuals Facebook pages. The second thought is you might not understand the ease of searching photographs on the web these days. In any case, if you are concerned about maintaining the anonymity of these women you might look to have at least some of these photographs removed.
Olympo.
I think your girls are great. I'm an American and I'm ready to come down to Cali right now. How do I find these girls in Cali?
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[QUOTE=Olympo Host; 1490363]Thanks for the advice Cali Hentai,
I really appreciate it. I do agree with you, in the sense that there is a tendency among American and Europeans for a certain look in girls, but I also like to think that is not necessarily a general rule, and that there are guys with different tastes for women, so I try to have a mixed lineup. I don't discriminate based on the Victoria Secret look, to be honest, in order to have quantity, but I also don't include any and every girl, which diminishes quality. There are other girls available in the catalog that are professional models and girls who are in fact Chicas Car Audio, but they won't do pictures for the catalog like the ones I posted as they're afraid people who know them in Colombia will find out. Some of them have already done pictures for the website lindapop. Com and they deeply regret it, so they are apprehensive about doing certain type of pictures. There are tons of hot women in Colombia who don't work in brothels or even do outcalls because of the fear of meeting someone who may recognize them and start the gossip, but when you tell them they only would work with Americans at a private secluded place where no one will know what they're doing, they love the idea and want to be part of it. There's a girl who is an odontologist, and another one who is a Medical student. Some are regular girls who are hot and want to use that to their advantage and make some extra income, but the idea that their family or friends find out that their doing P4P frightens them. I'll attach a couple pictures of other girls who are in the lineup.
My point is, the issue I'm having is not so much getting girls for the lineup, there are plenty who are hot and willing to work exclusively with americans (they love that idea). My problem has been more of a trust issue with clients. I'm looking to get guys that in the US and Europe pay $400 for an hour or $1000 for 3 hours and show them that in Colombia you get the same quality girl for a much longer period of time for the same price. The problem is that most of them have never been to Colombia and they have obvious red flags about traveling there. So right now for me is all about establishing that trust, and getting plenty of clients to come and see this is for real and provide them with an awesome experience so they come back and tell their friends.
Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated it, like yours Cali Hentai, thanks.[/QUOTE]
While I of course enjoy being with thin women, I actually dig the "Chicas Car Audio" look as well. Not sure why so many guys get fixated on a certain look or type instead of tasting or exploring the variety one finds in nature, LOL! It's true the caleņas tend to be more full-figured, but I wouldn't throw any of those featured girls out of my bed should they happen to be there. I appreciate Cali because of its differences from Medellin. Most gringos never go beyond the tried-and-true spots in MDE, and never go further down, making Cali an "untapped" resource figuratively speaking! Which is fine by me, as I kind of selfishly like the idea of most gringos staying clear of Cali. If you're strictly into thin girls, then stick with MDE; but I would not be so quick to knock the women of Cali.
Hey Olympo Host!
The problem is your pricing costs need to reflect the demand for your talent more realistically. The more gorda the chica, they should realize and take into account their perceived value is typicially less attractive by general American standards. Hence the bigger the girl, the more the discount should be taken into effect. First of all $400-$1000 for any of these girls is ridiculously excessive and beyond what girls charge in the US for that matter, so that's definitely out of the question! If chica is NOT Victoria Secret model type, thats fine for there is also a market for more voluptuous body types, it just need to be discounted in the price and business will be consistent. The problem is some of these girls are below sub par standards physicially, yet still outrageous with their expectations. Personally, I'd take the more chubby ones in your pictures, because I'm looking for best deals on less desirable chicas and how it works in stronger correlation to a good attitude and company. As long as she's priced accordingly. So you can send me all those other Gringos don't like!
[QUOTE=Olympo Host; 1490363]Thanks for the advice Cali Hentai,
I really appreciate it. I do agree with you, in the sense that there is a tendency among American and Europeans for a certain look in girls, but I also like to think that is not necessarily a general rule, and that there are guys with different tastes for women, so I try to have a mixed lineup. I don't discriminate based on the Victoria Secret look, to be honest, in order to have quantity, but I also don't include any and every girl, which diminishes quality. There are other girls available in the catalog that are professional models and girls who are in fact Chicas Car Audio, but they won't do pictures for the catalog like the ones I posted as they're afraid people who know them in Colombia will find out. Some of them have already done pictures for the website lindapop. Com and they deeply regret it, so they are apprehensive about doing certain type of pictures. There are tons of hot women in Colombia who don't work in brothels or even do outcalls because of the fear of meeting someone who may recognize them and start the gossip, but when you tell them they only would work with Americans at a private secluded place where no one will know what they're doing, they love the idea and want to be part of it. There's a girl who is an odontologist, and another one who is a Medical student. Some are regular girls who are hot and want to use that to their advantage and make some extra income, but the idea that their family or friends find out that their doing P4P frightens them. I'll attach a couple pictures of other girls who are in the lineup..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Olympo Host; 1490363]Thanks for the advice Cali Hentai,
I really appreciate it. I do agree with you, in the sense that there is a tendency among American and Europeans for a certain look in girls, but I also like to think that is not necessarily a general rule, and that there are guys with different tastes for women, so I try to have a mixed lineup. I don't discriminate based on the Victoria Secret look, to be honest, in order to have quantity, but I also don't include any and every girl, which diminishes quality. There are other girls available in the catalog that are professional models and girls who are in fact Chicas Car Audio, but they won't do pictures for the catalog like the ones I posted as they're afraid people who know them in Colombia will find out. Some of them have already done pictures for the website lindapop. Com and they deeply regret it, so they are apprehensive about doing certain type of pictures. There are tons of hot women in Colombia who don't work in brothels or even do outcalls because of the fear of meeting someone who may recognize them and start the gossip, but when you tell them they only would work with Americans at a private secluded place where no one will know what they're doing, they love the idea and want to be part of it. There's a girl who is an odontologist, and another one who is a Medical student. Some are regular girls who are hot and want to use that to their advantage and make some extra income, but the idea that their family or friends find out that their doing P4P frightens them. I'll attach a couple pictures of other girls who are in the lineup.
My point is, the issue I'm having is not so much getting girls for the lineup, there are plenty who are hot and willing to work exclusively with americans (they love that idea). My problem has been more of a trust issue with clients. I'm looking to get guys that in the US and Europe pay $400 for an hour or $1000 for 3 hours and show them that in Colombia you get the same quality girl for a much longer period of time for the same price. The problem is that most of them have never been to Colombia and they have obvious red flags about traveling there. So right now for me is all about establishing that trust, and getting plenty of clients to come and see this is for real and provide them with an awesome experience so they come back and tell their friends.
Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated it, like yours Cali Hentai, thanks.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you have a good plan to attract semi-pros and non-pros by keeping the meet ups and your place very private.
I simply wanted to point out that all you have to do is take a good look at what American marketers use for models to get a good idea of what appeals to most American men. But there is no harm really in keeping some of the thicker chicks around for your long tail marketing endeavors. Jajaja
I might be in Cali on the 9th of Nov. As a long time friend of mine is getting married in Cali.
Thanks for the concern JD,
I understand the ease of looking up pictures on the internet, and that is exactly where I took these pictures from. Like I said, some of the girls are locally known models, and hence there is plenty of material of them on the internet. So I just googled their names and their pictures popped up. There are some who even have videos dancing and walking the runway on youtube. The first set of pictures I took in my house, that is why they have the blurred faces, the second set of pictures I did take from google images, since these girls are the sort of "famous" ones. And like I said before, there's a couple of them who did pictures for lindapop. Com and they regret it, since they were put on the web and advertised all throughout Cali, however, these girls do provide the service and well, the material is there to promote them. I know these girls because Lindapop did a couple of photoshoots in my place for their website (look up Juliana Montoya lindapop and Leslie Londoņo lindapop, you'll see the same settings as the girls on the first group of pictures). They loved the idea of working exclusively for Americans, they told their girlfriends, their friends told their friends, and so on. But like I said in the other post, the problem with promoting these girls with pictures off the internet is trust. Precisely because you can get them with ease from the internet, well, anyone can take them, post them and claim those are the girls that will show up to provide the service. So the "too good to be true" thought comes to mind, and then the prevention to avoid an old bait and switch (which sucks ass). So basically, I have this great group of beautiful providers, but very few clients for them.
This might not be the ideal place for promoting, specially because they are not cheap, these girls definitely don't do the 60K-30min / 90K-1hr thing, but if any of the guys visiting Cali would like to try a long GFE with a high-end caleņa provider, you can PM me to discuss details. Thanks for the comments JD.
[QUOTE=Jelly Donut;1490416]You understand that the pictures you posted can be quickly and easily searched for on the web, right? Sorry to suggest it if it is not the case, but my first impression is you may just be taking these photographs off individuals Facebook pages. The second thought is you might not understand the ease of searching photographs on the web these days. In any case, if you are concerned about maintaining the anonymity of these women you might look to have at least some of these photographs removed.[/QUOTE]
i must disagree with you again. i really don't see american marketers using dark haired, latin women at all. the majority are blonds. men who travel to cali looking for women are attracted to their dark hair and latin looks, beautiful faces and big dark eyes. you, more than anyone, should know that the look in cali is a little more full figured. if a man wants a skinny as a rail, flat chested woman, he'd be better served traveling to the phillipines or asia.
of course, not everyone is a chick magnet like you, so i guess you can be selective. jajaja, but for the majority of men looking for a traditional looking colombiana, most of the women in the photos would serve them well, especially if they have beautiful faces.
i'm just wondering what one of those "thicker" chicas would say about you if they saw you in that speedo of yours. jajaja.
i'm sure many of these woman are very disappointed when told that some americans are traveling to cali to meet them, thinking that they are going to meet guys that look like brad pitt, then to their dismay, they are presented a bunch of cali hentais. jajaja
And as a follow up to my previous post. When American marketers do use latin women in their ads, they are using more full figured women like J Lo, Sofia Vergara, Selma Hayek; and not so much skinny as a rail Latinas like Penelope Cruz.
[QUOTE=Olympo Host; 1490363]My point is, the issue I'm having is not so much getting girls for the lineup, there are plenty who are hot and willing to work exclusively with americans (they love that idea). My problem has been more of a trust issue with clients. I'm looking to get guys that in the US and Europe pay $400 for an hour or $1000 for 3 hours and show them that in Colombia you get the same quality girl for a much longer period of time for the same price. The problem is that most of them have never been to Colombia and they have obvious red flags about traveling there. So right now for me is all about establishing that trust, and getting plenty of clients to come and see this is for real and provide them with an awesome experience so they come back and tell their friends.
Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated it.[/QUOTE]The chicas in the photos are super-hot!
Ignore the advice of asking Aussie Greg for chica consultations. There is a reason why those skinny biotches that come to the Mansion could never demand more than 150, 000K COP. Half of those broads would have to pay ME to bang them.
Where Cali Hentai had it right is that SOME Americans like the skinny look, which is where Aussie Greg has his marketing correct.
BUT there are A LOT of other Americans such as myself that like and only want the look of the chicas in your photos. Colombian males also like this look, which is who you should target your marketing to FIRST! Just look at all of the skinny chicas getting ass implants in Colombia and such. They are trying to emulate the curvy look of the women in your photos, because that is what Colombian men want.
Trying to target Americans and Euros will lead to a disasterous marketing effort.
You also have to work on the pricing structure you are seeking. Why would an American or European travel all the way to Colombia risking life and limb to pay the same exorbitant prices that he could back home?
You are trying to convince them that in Latin America they could have women for a longer period of time for that amount, but I do not need to spend 4hrs plus with a pro. What if I paid $1000 and this chick turned out to be very mechanical in bed with a shitty attitude? No bbbj, no dfk, "just fuck me, but don't touch me". What am I supposed to do with a broad like this for 4+ hours?
Though not without its hassles, there are no shortage of options to finding paid sex in America and Europe. We are traveling because we want to find higher quality (GFE) at lower prices. It is the concept of "outsourcing" if you are familiar with the term and business practice. Also, most of us are smart enough to only pay a short time rate with a pro, and if she turns out to be a winner we invite her back for a much longer time at a higher rate.
[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1490612]BUT there are A LOT of other Americans such as myself that like and only want the look of the chicas in your photos. Colombian males also like this look, which is who you should target your marketing to FIRST! Just look at all of the skinny chicas getting ass implants in Colombia and such. They are trying to emulate the curvy look of the women in your photos, because that is what Colombian men want.
Trying to target Americans and Euros will lead to a disasterous marketing effort.
You also have to work on the pricing structure you are seeking. Why would an American or European travel all the way to Colombia risking life and limb to pay the same exorbitant prices that he could back home?[/QUOTE]Exactly. His business plan totally sucks. Just by reading the forum you will see that the few gringos who go to Cali are not trying to pay those prices. Second, why the hell would guys go to Cali and search for White American/European looking women? Third, you must not be really interested in making much money. In all of the times I have been to Cali I can count on one hand the times I have run into gringos (to tell the truth NEVER pops into my head). You might be better off trying to find some of the gringo big spenders who attend to business in Bogota to fall for this. Still, I don't recall ever seeing a guy in even that forum mention paying a chica the minimum 800,000 pesos that you are requesting. And do these girls even speak English? From this forum I gather that the majority of guys traveling to Colombia to monger do not speak Spanish. And if the monger is like me and speaks Spanish, then he is definitely less likely to fall for this seeing that they should have no problem picking up non-pros and pros on the local scene. Being a pimp is not as simple as it seems. You might have the women, but it seems that you don't know much about business/marketing. I guess part of your due diligence was posting this here though before you tried to put your plan into effect.