Bangkok Reports

Quick report from a Shanghai brother.

In Bangkok for a business meeting and really didn't want to hit the bar scene. Even though I'm 5 minutes from soi cowboy. So I found a girl on we chat and much to my surprise, was a great experience. She is a licensed aroma therapy masseuse and offers 3 options: massage with he, naked massage and full service. She is not GFE, no DFK (no kissing at all) and CBJ. What's really surprising is those two are usually huge negatives for me-but here I am going out of my way to help her get more business.

She has the best personality I've come across in a very long time. Her massage skills, while not hard enough for my tastes, were very relaxing. Her pictures are real, although she definitely looks better in the pics. She still has a very nice body and face (tits are a little saggy, but still ok). She does have a see section scar, but it's minimal. I think it's her personality that really hit the home run. I just enjoyed having her in my room.

She only works off of we chat. PM me if you want contact information. I have nothing to gain here, I'm heading back to Shanghai in the morning and it may be years before I'm in BKK again.

Taz.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1801867]S, I have never suffered from an STD in my life so there is zero possibility that I have passed one along to anyone. In addition I always get checked out after each and every trip just to make sure.

But I guess the cat is out of the bag and we are now going to have to endure a few days perhaps a week of these STD related posts and warnings here in the BKK Report forum. I am guilty too because I posted my "creed" here in this forum, but seriously guys what is the "Safe Sex in Thailand" thread for if not for these type of posts and discussions? So let's move the conversation over there where it belongs. 555. What are the odds of that happening?[/QUOTE]I believe I answered you what I did after YOU posted:

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1801809]
4. I will never engage in sexual congress with a girl covered or uncovered while I am suffering from an STD.
[/QUOTE]If you don't want to discuss about a subject then its best you don't post about it. Not to mention you and your buddy are using are using a public forum to exchange how you missed each other the other night. Well following your logic, you should have used PMs else "what is the PM functionnality for if not for these type of posts" .

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If you don't want to discuss about a subject then its best you don't post about it. [/QUOTE]So true. NB has left the loom.

[QUOTE=Markly2;1801770]I'm sure alot of you veteran mongers are going to laugh at my newby questions, but I'll ask anyway.[/QUOTE]No problem. The whole idea of this forum is to help each other.

[QUOTE=Markly2;1801770]What is the procedure when going into gogo bars? Do you wait to be seated? Or do you just walk in and sit down? [/QUOTE]As usual, the answer is "it depends". In some agogo clubs, you can just walk in and get yourself a seat, especially when it is rather busy and the waitresses are overstressed and not able to cope with the flow of guests entering. However in most clubs they will intercept you and seat you.

I walk in slowly and give them the opportunity to "catch" me and show me a seat if they are so inclined, but if they don't act fast enough, I'll seat myself. It is all about showing some positive attitude, not being rude or impolite, but neither look and act like a timid sheep going to the slaughter.

[QUOTE=Markly2;1801770]Do you go to the bar for a drink? Or do you wait to be served? (In England, you go to the bar). [/QUOTE]Soon after you sit down, a waitress will appear and ask what you want to drink. Make sure you get a ticket that shows the price and quickly check it. Some clubs try to overcharge you and slip in things you never ordered.

[QUOTE=Markly2;1801770]Do you pay the bar fine to the girl? Or someone else? [/QUOTE]No, the bar fine goes to the bar. For instance in Suzi Wong, it is actually added to your bar tab and paid together with your (and her) drinks. The waitress will collect the money. It may be that in some clubs, your girl will collect and pay at the bar. Just go with the flow, it will show itself.

[QUOTE=Markly2;1801770]And if you want a threesome, is it best to attract both girls at the same time?[/QUOTE]That is actually a very difficult question. First, let me say that Thailand is not a "threesome" country. Contrary to what many think, Thai bar or agogo club girls are actually quite conservative as far as sex is concerned. Yes, they will have sex with your for money, but don't expect them to be sex-godesses. Most will offer plain sex: hand-job, blow-job and full sex in the standard positions of missionary, cow-girl and doggy. If you want to do a replay of the kamasutra, you'll have an uphill struggle.

The same goes for threesomes. The best you can reasonably hope for is "serial fucking", i.e. You do one girl while the other plays with her smartphone and then you switch. It is not unknown that the unoccupied girl retreats to the bathroom while you are servicing the other girl.

So if you want a "real" threesome, you must clearly explain what you wish before you decide to barfine her. Barfining a girl and only then broaching this request is unlikely to be successful. Best you ask your companion-for-one-night if she knows another girl that will be game too and if she knows someone, go for it. Personally, I wouldn't bother. For my threesomes I go to Eden Club (you can look up my reports about Eden Club): threesomes are guaranteed, the girls are not shy and there is little they will not do. I've always enjoyed Eden Club, but YMMV.

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I know these might seem like crass questions but I would like to get it at least half right.

Thanks[/QUOTE]If you don't ask, you are likely to repeat all the errors the veterans have made. Although I must say, some of these errors where quite fun!

[QUOTE=RobertLong;1801871]Everyone likes a BBBJ CIM, then they dine at the DATY, juices flow, then DFK, then they put on a condom to protect from STD's. Seems a little late at that point. HIV is transferred thru liquids, ie seman or blood.

If you want a Thai lady, find one that is not a WG. There are thousands at the dating websites. Otherwise play it safe.

RL.[/QUOTE]Well at least for HIV, there is good scientific evidence that DFK and DATY is not a vector, unless she's on her period and you have bleeding gums. Saliva does not contain sufficient HIV particles to cause infection.

This also means that BBBJ is really unlikely to transmit HIV from the woman to the man. From man to woman is another matter, especially if CIM is involved.

And please, any girl on a dating website that fucks you on the first or second date is to be considered in the same category as any other working girl, or did you think that the exchange of money increases the chances of an STD?

[QUOTE=Vivek;1801847]Hi,
(. . .)
Now my questions are as follows.

1) Among Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket which is the cheapest, best and safest place that I should go to as Sex Tourist? Tours generally take us to Bangkok as well as Pattaya. But Bangkok & Pattaya have similar kind of Nightclubs and should I avoid one or should I try both? If I decide to go to only one place which is the better?
[/QUOTE]I have never considered safety to be a major issue anywhere in Thailand, so I rate these three places the same.

Cheapest for sure is Pattaya. Phuket is probably the most expensive.

"Best" is very personal. For me Bangkok offers the best opportunities, but YMMV. Pattaya surely has the most opportunities, so chances are good you will find something to your liking.

[QUOTE=Vivek;1801847]2) Which is the Best Hotel which will allow girls without extra charge or hassles? Which are best Nightclubs & Massage Parlors & Vegetarian Restaurants at walking distance from that Hotel?[/QUOTE]I stayed last time at the Citypoint Hotel (see my posting from a few days ago). Hundred meter south of the hotel on Ratchadaphisok Road there is a very nice vegetarian / vegan restaurant, but there are many similar restaurants on lower Sukhumvit Road and the food court on the fifth floor of Terminal 21 offers many vegetarian dishes at unbeatable prices. All is within walking distance from Citypoint hotel.

BTW, Nana Hotel is not a place I would ever consider again to stay. It is old, overpriced and not nice.

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3) How much should a girl, massage and spending time in a nightclub cost me? I like Medium type. Neither very expensive nor very cheap and unsafe.[/QUOTE]For example: last time I was in Bangkok, the girl from Suzi Wong I barfined, charged me 4000 Baht for "Long Time", add the barfine and some drinks and that evening / night cost me a little over 5000 baht. I consider that a typical expenditure.

If I rather go for a massage (and full service), it will be more like 3000 baht. At my age I will limit myself to one girl per day, but I usually get two pops (three if I'm lucky).

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1801864]Many hours ago I sent replies to your and Red Kilts posts that pretty much nullify or at least neutralize your name-calling and personal insults of me and my position on the issue for anyone adept at critical thinking and capable of assessing easily observable reality. But the Admin apparently refuses to post them. Send a post to him / her about it. I did, but have yet to get a response.
[/QUOTE]Just an FYI for you. Until you're promoted to a senior member, all of your posts have to be approved by an admin. This means a wait of several hours, depending on when you posted and how busy the forum admins are (or what time he kicked last night's LT out of the room).

It does cause some little issues, because your post is placed chronologically depending on when written, not when approved, but it keeps away unnecessary spam.

[QUOTE=Vivek;1801847]I am Vivek. 40/ Male / Single from Mumbai, Indian.

1) Among Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket which is the cheapest, best and safest place that I should go to as Sex Tourist? Tours generally take us to Bangkok as well as Pattaya. But Bangkok & Pattaya have similar kind of Nightclubs and should I avoid one or should I try both? If I decide to go to only one place which is the better?
[/QUOTE]I think Bangkok is your better bet.

IMO you will face a lot more obstacles in Pattaya due the past abhorrent behavior of your sub-continental brethren.

And the results of this Phuket tourist poll speaks for itself: [URL]http://www.thephuketnews.com/chinese-russian-tourists-not-preferred-says-phuket-poll-53379.php[/URL].

SL.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1801962]If you don't ask, you are likely to repeat all the errors the veterans have made. Although I must say, some of these errors where quite fun![/QUOTE]Thanks for the answers Wolvenvacht. They are much appreciated.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1801978]Just an FYI for you. Until you're promoted to a senior member, all of your posts have to be approved by an admin. This means a wait of several hours, depending on when you posted and how busy the forum admins are (or what time he kicked last night's LT out of the room).

It does cause some little issues, because your post is placed chronologically depending on when written, not when approved, but it keeps away unnecessary spam.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification on that, JjBee62. I now realize that one of the issues that causes is when I or someone else clicks on the "View First Unread" post option, it can take you to a more recent post by someone else and you might never know those hours earlier replies were indeed posted much further down the thread. That is what happened in my case; while scorchin was posting his "Still waiting for the idiots to respond" message I knew I had responded hours earlier but didn't know my responses had indeed been posted in the thread, but further down into it, some as far back as a previous page. It is also possible that scorching clicked on the "View First Unread" post option as well and hadn't seen my earlier responses by then. Assuming I am one of his designated "idiots", that is. LOL.

Meanwhile, I notice no matter how deep into the thread I go looking for one, neither scorch in nor Red Kilt has as of this writing responded to my followup posts challenging their shaky contentions regarding a condom pitchman supposedly "stopping" a heterosexual HIV epidemic and that highly unpopular dictate featured on the Cabbages & Condoms restaurant's Safety First guidelines asserting no oral-genital contact be engaged in without first slipping on a condom.

Thanks to all who replied to my post.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1801885]So true. NB has left the loom.[/QUOTE]Well handled. Kudos to you.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1802098]Meanwhile, I notice no matter how deep into the thread I go looking for one, neither scorchin nor Red Kilt has as of this writing responded to my followup posts challenging their shaky contentions regarding a condom pitchman supposedly "stopping" a heterosexual HIV epidemic and that highly unpopular dictate featured on the Cabbages & Condoms restaurant's Safety First guidelines asserting no oral-genital contact be engaged in without first slipping on a condom.[/QUOTE]To call Dr Meechai Viravaidya a 'condom pitchman" is an insult to a highly esteemed Thai.

Don't expect me to bother responding to your childish "challenges" given that you are not even a member of ISG.

If ever I do get around to a reply it will be in the "Safe Sex in Thailand" thread.

I must say it is a very well written comment, How to engage in what kind of sex is one's personal choice and preference, there is certain amount of risk in everything you do in your life, there is risk in walking on the road, driving, being on a flight and with terrorism around siting in a restaurant or in a stadium etc etc etc. And so there is a risk in sex with some one, but you still all the things, Key part is being responsible before and after and being supportive to someone who you sleep with and respect an individual is the most important thing.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1801809]Sorry Scorchin, not going to reply directly to you because it is obvious you are just spoiling for a fight. Your recent posts belongs in the "Safe Sex in Thailand" thread. If you really wanted to contribute to an intelligent discussion on the subject you would have posted there and you would not have started out your post by insulting everyone with whom you seek to engage.

I will post my creed, however, because it is relevant to the initial post by Socker:

1. A girl has the right to request a condom before sex. I always leave a couple of Sagami polyurethane condoms in a nightstand drawer beside the bed ahead of time to handle such requests.

2. I have the right to wear a condom or not wear a condom during sex along with the girl. Some girls move mighty fast from a blow job to cowgirl. I always know when it is coming, but there can be as little as a 5 seconds lead time. You have to act fast and with resolution to avoid it which is not always that easy to do.

3. I do not like to wear a condom for BBBJ and I will take points off any girl's score who insists on a CBJ by never repeating with her.

4. I will never engage in sexual congress with a girl covered or uncovered while I am suffering from an STD.

5. I will stand by and support any girl that I happen to impregnate. First by using all my persuasive powers, including my substantial financial capacity to convince her of the merits of an abortion. So I am prepared in advance to pay/bribe any girl who is actually having MY BABY a very large amount of money to terminate the pregnancy. The girls with whom I bareback are in special class and they always know how to contact me. I will ultimately stand by and support the child which means supporting the mother as well, if the girl in question refuses to get an abortion for whatever reason.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1802204]To call Dr Meechai Viravaidya a 'condom pitchman" is an insult to a highly esteemed Thai.

Don't expect me to bother responding to your childish "challenges" given that you are not even a member of ISG.

If ever I do get around to a reply it will be in the "Safe Sex in Thailand" thread.[/QUOTE]If my easy challenges were really so "childish" you'd be able to dispense with them handily and probably have a lot of fun doing so as well. The fact that you are dodging this golden opportunity to do so strongly suggests you really can't meet them much less dispense with them. If that is how you'd like to leave it, that's fine by me. In fact, it is the outcome I fully expected anyway.