Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2698899]
Referrals mean nothing. That is why we say YMMV in this hobby. I took a chick and she blew my socks off; squirted all over the place. 1 month later my buddy took the same chick and he said she was garbage. My stellar review and referral caused him to waste his money.[/QUOTE]Its not an exact science. In that one situation with your boy he may have to chalked that up as an loss but because of your knowledge and experience in dealing with variety of different women, I put money the future women you refer to him 8 times out of ten he come up winning.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2699025]Its not an exact science. In that one situation with your boy he may have to chalked that up as an loss but because of your knowledge and experience in dealing with variety of different women, I put money the future women you refer to him 8 times out of ten he come up winning.[/QUOTE]Ain't that a fact. LOL.

I can't count the times I've been asked to refer a visitor. Both "acquaintances" from home, and even complete strangers.

In my enthusiasm for Sosua I used to try and help. I'd help my local ladies make a little money, and the guys get laid. It worked only about 50% of the time. When it didn't, they'd both be on may case! So I quit that a long time ago. Not interested, except in the odd rare case when a trusted "friend" or relative (you know who you are) might ask, and you really want to see him have a good time.

But, as I. And Mr. E says, YMMV. That should be on a sign hung up in every bar! LOL.

One scenario I used to face all the time is when a group of us are having a good time on the beach, or in a bar, we get the usual "sniffers" hanging around. They work their way into the group, even take over the conversation with grand stories ("I'm an International wine merchant" is one I heard recently, he was arguing about his tab later, LOL), and try to pick off the chicas. Could even be my GF, doesn't matter. Hey it's a public place, right? And we are all used to that, so we'd leave them to make their own deal.

If it didn't work out, the next day the chica complains, "I thought he was a friend of yours)".

Same with a visiting pal, who got caught by the hard core sniffer, a street puta who's always hanging round our group. She wanted 500 P for a blow job across the street. I warned him, but this newbie had had a few drinks and went with her. She apparently gave him a bad time, and he came back at me "I thought she was a friend of yours?

This is the same guy who wanted to fuck my GF's baby sitter from PP, on her only visit to Sosua. She'd never had a foreign dick in her life. She asked me if it was OK, so I said, sure. He wanted to know where he could do the deed. He was staying at CM AI, so I got a moto and sent them to Dulce Secreta. They came back an hour later, him smiling, she's not smiling so I say did he pay you? She shook her head. I asked him, he said no, she didn't ask, but I paid the moto, the room and the beer. So I put him straight and demanded he give her the going rate. 2 strikes with me, and he's out!

Such is the life of an ex-pat in Sosua! LOL.

But we have a lot of fun, and now we leave 'them to it. We have a core group of brothers, but mostly sisters around us and we do look out for each other.

Bottom line is, I find most guys are too much worried about what other people are getting, who's having all the fun, and how much they are paying for it.

They don't understand one of the Golden Rules. YMMV. Actually it's a given that your mileage will vary.

The old sayings, to each his own, there's a lid for every pot, and you can't fit a square peg into a round all, and all that!

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2698803]......The problem with your supposition is that you cannot know the level of service your are going to receive by just looking a chica.....[/QUOTE]Having been in this activity now for 50 years I have developed a sixth sense to determine whether a lay would be good or not. Something in her expression, is her smile fake or genuine? How is her body language? Does she lean away from me or does she come closer? What does she say? Is she too eager? Where I have been wrong is thinking a girl would be just ok then she turns out to be stellar. Where I am now I have no choice with new girls, I go with an escort that's sent to me. In a club where I can chat with the girl I have not chosen a provider not to my liking in many years. Similarly in a casa. Sometimes, when I'm in the mood, I choose a stunner oblivious to what sort of service I'd get. Now, however, in a club or casa, when I'm seeking good service I'll generally get it.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2699131]Having been in this activity now for 50 years I have developed a sixth sense to determine whether a lay would be good or not. Something in her expression, is her smile fake or genuine? How is her body language? Does she lean away from me or does she come closer? What does she say? Is she too eager? Where I have been wrong is thinking a girl would be just ok then she turns out to be stellar. Where I am now I have no choice with new girls, I go with an escort that's sent to me. In a club where I can chat with the girl I have not chosen a provider not to my liking in many years. Similarly in a casa. Sometimes, when I'm in the mood, I choose a stunner oblivious to what sort of service I'd get. Now, however, in a club or casa, when I'm seeking good service I'll generally get it.[/QUOTE]If you could bottle up your selection success and sell it, you would have many takers. That said, I would not be one of them since I'm quite happy with my own methods.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2699131]Having been in this activity now for 50 years I have developed a sixth sense to determine whether a lay would be good or not. Something in her expression, is her smile fake or genuine? How is her body language? Does she lean away from me or does she come closer? What does she say? Is she too eager? Where I have been wrong is thinking a girl would be just ok then she turns out to be stellar. Where I am now I have no choice with new girls, I go with an escort that's sent to me. In a club where I can chat with the girl I have not chosen a provider not to my liking in many years. Similarly in a casa. Sometimes, when I'm in the mood, I choose a stunner oblivious to what sort of service I'd get. Now, however, in a club or casa, when I'm seeking good service I'll generally get it.[/QUOTE]I stand corrected. Even though I am a man in the arena, I do not have the advanced skill set that you possess as a experienced man.

What I should have wrote is: "I cannot tell if I am going to get good service just by looking at a chica". I would definitely take a referral from you. LOL!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2699131]Having been in this activity now for 50 years I have developed a sixth sense to determine whether a lay would be good or not. Something in her expression, is her smile fake or genuine? How is her body language? Does she lean away from me or does she come closer? What does she say? Is she too eager? Where I have been wrong is thinking a girl would be just ok then she turns out to be stellar. Where I am now I have no choice with new girls, I go with an escort that's sent to me. In a club where I can chat with the girl I have not chosen a provider not to my liking in many years. Similarly in a casa. Sometimes, when I'm in the mood, I choose a stunner oblivious to what sort of service I'd get. Now, however, in a club or casa, when I'm seeking good service I'll generally get it.[/QUOTE]This sixth sense is generally developed with the ability to say 'no', or to just stay alone when nothing acceptable can be found. Some say we are 'choosy', but that's exactly what we want: best choice.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2699131]Having been in this activity now for 50 years I have developed a sixth sense to determine whether a lay would be good or not. it.[/QUOTE]That's the maturity level that you have of the hunt. As experience hunters we learned that some game are not worth the energy used or required to deal with it.

The lion doesn't hunt the rat. Even though it's a quick meal; it's not worth the Energy and money exerted to obtain the meal. That's how I see a lot of the new breed. They chase after the quick meals that's ready available for them in the Su.

I can't knock them because you have to eat something. Meanwhile when I go to the water hole in the Su; I'm not looking for rats. It's nice to see them there because they are a crucial part of the environment's make up. There was the time I too found my pleasures in their consumption.

Usually with time our skills become sharper, taste is more required, and experiences dictates how we move. Positive progress. Whatever your choices of operating; I hope everyone has positive progression in this hobby.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2699271]
The lion doesn't hunt the rat. Even though it's a quick meal; it's not worth the Energy and Money exerted to obtain the meal. [/QUOTE]This is probably the best quote of the year. Every man in regards to dealing with women period should have this quote on his wall.

[QUOTE=Oakie;2699123]
Same with a visiting pal, who got caught by the hard core sniffer, a street puta who's always hanging round our group. She wanted 500 P for a blow job across the street. I warned him, but this newbie had had a few drinks and went with her. She apparently gave him a bad time, and he came back at me "I thought she was a friend of yours?

This is the same guy who wanted to fuck my GF's baby sitter from PP, on her only visit to Sosua. She'd never had a foreign dick in her life. She asked me if it was OK, so I said, sure. He wanted to know where he could do the deed. He was staying at CM AI, so I got a moto and sent them to Dulce Secreta. They came back an hour later, him smiling, she's not smiling so I say did he pay you? She shook her head. I asked him, he said no, she didn't ask, but I paid the moto, the room and the beer. So I put him straight and demanded he give her the going rate. 2 strikes with me, and he's out![/QUOTE]From what the scenarios you just brought up its the mongers fault for causing their own problems. See truth be told when you get a referral from an OG monger that knows what hes doing and things doesn't workout I put money its generally the guys fault. And we generally don't talk about it on here but its the reason why you and other OGs air on the side of caution in meeting up with dudes and or giving new guys advice that they come across. Because guys will come down there and lose their minds and act like idiots and then when things don't workout they looking at you. Meanwhile you giving them that old school Red Foxx saying, "You Big Dummy" I told you to NOT go with her. Makes NO sense to meet up with an OG Monger whose been doing this for decades to not listen to his counsel.

But hey reminds me of a situation in Vegas. I worked the nightlife industry for years and know all the top folks as I got the juice. Had a big spender come in on new years eve as he brought in his whole family. This isn't his first rodeo so he knows folks as well but he only come into town maybe once a year. Hes throwing big money around so he figures he can get whatever he want done. Tells me on the low that hes trying to get his 19 yr old son into the club and that he got a fake ID. I said cool. Lets take this entrance they don't check like that. Hes feeling himself off the liquor and since hes the man with money hes going to do it his way. He led the group to the other entry point and sure enough the security spoted that the ID was fake and just like that there night was ruined with his son almost being kicked out the entire Casino.

Meanwhile I just give my client the Martin Lawrence look and quote off bad boys 3 to Will Smith. "You Dumb Ass".

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2699299]From what the scenarios you just brought up its the mongers fault for causing their own problems. See truth be told when you get a referral from an OG monger that knows what hes doing and things doesn't workout I put money its generally the guys fault. And we generally don't talk about it on here but its the reason why you and other OGs air on the side of caution in meeting up with dudes and or giving new guys advice that they come across. Because guys will come down there and lose their minds and act like idiots and then when things don't workout they looking at you. Meanwhile you giving them that old school Red Foxx saying, "You Big Dummy" I told you to NOT go with her. Makes NO sense to meet up with an OG Monger whose been doing this for decades to not listen to his counsel.

But hey reminds me of a situation in Vegas. I worked the nightlife industry for years and know all the top folks as I got the juice. Had a big spender come in on new years eve as he brought in his whole family. This isn't his first rodeo so he knows folks as well but he only come into town maybe once a year. Hes throwing big money around so he figures he can get whatever he want done. Tells me on the low that hes trying to get his 19 yr old son into the club and that he got a fake ID. I said cool. Lets take this entrance they don't check like that. Hes feeling himself off the liquor and since hes the man with money hes going to do it his way. He led the group to the other entry point and sure enough the security spoted that the ID was fake and just like that there night was ruined with his son almost being kicked out the entire Casino.

Meanwhile I just give my client the Martin Lawrence look and quote off bad boys 3 to Will Smith. "You Dumb Ass".[/QUOTE]Yeah, true enough.

We all live and learn.

Nobody is born with the knowledge of how things work in Sosua, or any other place. It's just accumulated wisdon, from those who have been there, done that.

I got my kick start from guys like you and Mr Gogo years ago in this forum. Gave me a fast track on Sosua before I ever got there. Saved me from making a lot of newboe mistakes.

That and having two long term relationships a with local ex hooker, and my current bi chick, and her friends.

It's all about listening to the guys you want to roll like, and ignoring the others.

But I could never party like you Coolie! LOL.

It's the age thing. I used to fuck anything that moved. Now my head runs things now, not my dick, but I'm happy with that.

Look forward to catching up with ya soon!

When I was new to the board and to the Dominican Republic, I started posting and took a lot of criticism from many (some of whom are still posing to this day). But I hung tough. An OG that was living here contacted me on the back channel and took me under his wing and showed me different ways of doing things. I added them to skill set. I got past my differences with another OG and it has lead to a very fruitful relationship. Adding much to my skill set and we have had numerous exchanges that have helped me.

My point is that when I was new OGs helped me and I learned from them. And even now I learn from OGs. But running down the new guy has never stopped up in here. That is why I am quick to give help to all that ask. Because I was new once. And now I am one of the most informative posters up in here!

It should be noted that the best information that I receive comes from personal contacts. Many of whom do not even post up in here. So, new people, develop your own skills and techniques. But most importantly, build a network. To keep counsel and to have access to the chicas that provide the best sexual / social services that you like.

Who up in here was not [I]new[/I] at some point? But only the most pompous among us thinks they know everything. There are more than just few riding their own dick when they really should be letting the chicas do it. And I am going to add that I also learn from new people. They do things differently. Often have other ways of looking at things and are younger. The new guy of today is the one that is going to be posting the knowledge gems of tomorrow. I am an example of that.

Lastly new people, note the biases of the individuals posting here. There are some that constantly post up in here but don't even like The Sue. Others who are on the fence. And those like me who like to visit, but who wouldn't want to live there at this time. And of course there are those that live there. As a south coast sexpat, I can tell you that writing from a "I live here experience" is very different than writing from a "I'm visiting experience".

So new guys, get into the arena, learn from doing and post about it. Ignore the critics, because men in the arena know that they do not count.

Why is this called the Sosua Reports Forum? It is more like the Sosua discussion Forum. That is why I post the majority of my experiences in The Sue in [B]Grownmans Boom Boom Room[/B]. My posts to do not get lost in what amounts mostly to noise here and there is also intelligent discussion over there.

This is SubCmdr. And I am a man in the arena!

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2699206]This sixth sense is generally developed with the ability to say 'no', or to just stay alone when nothing acceptable can be found. Some say we are 'choosy', but that's exactly what we want: best choice.[/QUOTE]I've never had difficulty saying 'no'. Its not only about looks, something may just not feel right about the woman. Sometimes the woman is so hot that even though there's something nagging my brain about her I still pull the trigger, then get a bad session; then I tell myself "You got what you deserve".

[QUOTE=Turgid;2699500]I've never had difficulty saying 'no'. Its not only about looks, something may just not feel right about the woman. Sometimes the woman is so hot that even though there's something nagging my brain about her I still pull the trigger, then get a bad session; then I tell myself "You got what you deserve".[/QUOTE]You make my point. And that is that no one is going to develop their "sixth sense" by reading this forum. Only by experience in the arena. Knowledge from others can help.

Other thoughts:

I enjoy reading sexpat harem stories. But I much prefer usable intelligence. It's a market and what people are paying in the market matter. No matter how people feel about my thoughts on the issue.

Final thing, it is the company you keep. I don't have anyone who I would give a referral to that wouldn't pay the girl after he has taken her for a joy ride. Damn! That is some weak ass shit. The story made me wince.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2699529]Final thing, it is the company you keep. I don't have anyone who I would give a referral to that wouldn't pay the girl after he has taken her for a joy ride. Damn! That is some weak ass shit. The story made me wince.[/QUOTE]It was a cautionary tale, about trying to help a monger. Made me wince when it happened.

You missed the part "So I put him straight and demanded he give her the going rate. 2 strikes with me, and he's out!

I got no time for losers.

Life is a big garden. You got to water the roses and exterminate the weeds. LOL.

[QUOTE=Oakie;2699123]Bottom line is, I find most guys are too much worried about what other people are getting, who's having all the fun, and how much they are paying for it.[/QUOTE]In Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este, most guys who contact me are sincerely looking for the best way to find / pick chicas to provide the social / sexual service preferences of their choice and an idea of "the going rate". Many just want me to show them around in general so they can get a look at the place without people pressuring them to buy something or trying to rip them off. I have given ISG brothers rides to the airport and picked them up from bus stations and transported them to where they were going to spend the night. They have brought me things from their home countries. They have bought me drinks and dinners. Overall, meeting ISG brothers has been a pleasant experience. And none of them were concerned with the fun others were having or the price they were paying for it. So, I guess it is just the company you keep when you say "most guys". So, maybe again, I missed something. Could be a reading comprehension problem on my part. But I don't think so.

Now there have been some problems. I have provided extensive help to ISG brothers, given them information and referrals only to have them come have a great trip. They tell me about their trip, do not even thank me, and then (what I consider an even greater sin) they do not even make a post about anything they did. LOL! And I had a problem with a OG once. He showed me something he though was impressive. I was not impressed and continued to conduct my affairs I as had been doing before. He got his panties in a knot over it. Maybe he was upset because I did not appreciate his advice? His style was very different from mine. But both of these types of stories are the rare case.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2699299]And we generally don't talk about it on here but its the reason why you and other OGs air on the side of caution in meeting up with dudes and or giving new guys advice that they come across.[/QUOTE]Actually, there has been much talk (most of it down) to new guys the entire time I have been part of this forum. My personal experience as a new guy here was mostly unpleasant in this forum. Because of that, I will not run a new guy down. No, I will help if they ask for help. Even to the point of answering questions that are repetitive and have been answered before. RTTF is disrespectful. I wince every time I read when someone has written it yet again. If I want someone to read something, I point them to it.

Who wants to wade through all the noise that gets posted up in here in order to find a gem of information once in a great while. Yes, the OGs have put in the work and earned their respect. But do they need to go around patting themselves on the back for all the knowledge they have developed? Where is the sense of camaraderie? I feel it with those in my inner circle. And I extend that to new people and those with questions until they give me a reason to do otherwise.

[QUOTE=Oakie;2699459]It's all about listening to the guys you want to roll like, and ignoring the others.[/QUOTE]Which is probably why I have so many disagreements with the OGs up in here. Because I don't want to roll like any of you. I want to roll like me. And how I roll is the best way to roll (for me). Now, everyone can roll the way they choose. Yes, you all got some information I could use if you actually shared it. I certainly will use it to help me roll how I like.

I identify with the new guys. Much more than with those living in the Glory Days. I'm looking for information. New information. Yes, OG fuck stories are fun. Hey, I tell fuck stories. But with the intention of providing information to new people. I write for new people. Until a OG gets out of line with me and needs to be put in check. But I do my best to even avoid that these days. Life is short. And we all know critics don't count. And when I respond I realize I am just giving the critics the audience they seek with a man in the arena.

I met a new guy while on second to last trip to The Sue. I wrote about him a previous post. It was his first trip. And I had not been there for almost a year. We would discuss what we each found as we were both discovering The Sue at the same time. We had discussions about the chicas we went with. How we both negotiated with them. Price points we were seeking. How to handle a chica that gives you problems in the room. And many many other points. I was not lecturing him. It was an active discussion. With him listening to my experiences and ideas and I was listening to his. He was from a world apart from me and gave a new perspective on how you could look at things.

One of the things he liked about The Sue was all the different facial looks, body types and skin colors of the chicas. He had mongered in other parts of the world and said that being in The Sue was a unique experience for him. I enjoyed listening to his unique perspective. He took information I gave him and he used it to hit his stride. He was able to find the Social / Sexual providers that gave him satisfaction at the price he was seeking. Not only that, we shared information on things to do in The Sue unrelated to the chicas. We wound up having a couple of breakfasts (at my favorite breakfast place) that he thought was a good value. And shared a lunch at a place he liked and I thought it was an excellent value. He even gave me a couple of chica referrals before he left.

I made a friend. And we are still in touch today. He travels more than I do. So, I look forward to hearing about his adventures in the future. For me that is what it is about gentlemen. Personal contacts that you can learn from. Made my last trip to The Sue so much more expansive as an experience. Sharing information on how to have sex with girls in real time. The actual stated purpose of the forum. That to me is a whole lot more interesting than reading about OG harem party and fuck stories. Along with the "new guys are fucked up" stories. LOL!

You all should know my writing style and online personality by now. It should be noted that all offense that is taken by those reading this post is fully intended and I really don't give a fuck what you think about it. It was a lot of fun writing it! Your bad if you wasted your time reading it.

This is Subcmdr and I am a man in the arena!