Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Mateocast98;2410005]I've been sending friend requests and following girls on FB. None of them seem to add me back or respond to any messages, obviously if we are not friends they have to accept to see my messages. But only about two girls have done so. Am I doing something wrong?[/QUOTE]You don't have to be friend to send messages. If you click on the box with the 3 dots when you are on the page if will give you option message / search profile. Boom send that message. Where there is a will there is a way.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2410235]I think sometime we forget it's a lot of rich ass dudes who just got money to blow and yes those chicks are seeing those guys they tell the guys they have a friend, dude refers those girls to his rich friend and ya you got a puta driving a Benz LOL but none of those chicks are ever worth it. We need more forums like this so guys make better decisions and pay less for pussy.[/QUOTE]I think we need a thread just on all girls names. I think it would be hilarious to see how many guys are sponsoring the same girl LOL.

These girls are very smart and know how to play each and every guy differently. They just don't bother with guys like me because I'm very direct and treat them like hookers when I tell them I need to come on your face or swallow my load.

I'm known to overpay certain girls that are not fb girls. But I get exactly what I want. Every girl has a price even these girls who think they are princesses who have sugar daddies thinking they’re better than other hookers. Sometimes it’s worth paying the price if they’re hot enough.

But there is obviously a group of higher end girls in this biz.

I was just curious to know how much they could make because if they make a lot of $$ then you really lose some negotiating power. Especially with the higher end girls.

I am planning a short trip back to Medellin next month and I was wondering if anyone could offer their thoughts on purchasing and taking tussi with a working girl? I have never taken it or other hard drugs. Is this something dangerous I shouldn't risk in Medellin? Will working girls look at me like I am crazy if I ask them to do this with me? Is there a high chance that I will be buying fake tussi? Where to acquire it? If anyone could offer some personal experiences with tussi and answer some of these questions I would greatly it. Thanks in advance for responses.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2410088]I'm occasionally (or frequently) offensive. Unfortunately, there are guys who go to Colombia looking for children. Fortunately, if they're caught in Colombia, their days of looking for children are likely over.

When I look through my chica list, I see about 2% who are over 30, about 5% who look about 30,70% looking in the 20-30 range, 20% around 18-20 and 3% that I'm going to insist on seeing a cedula before discussing anything.

Most are slim to slender, a few bordering on anorexic and a few who are on the thin side of thick, with a couple of chunkers tossed in. Whatever your preference, you can find it.[/QUOTE]Haha I used to like super thin, until my field research revealed that super thin is usually a red flag for super crazy (or drug addicted), anorexics are some of the most deranged minds out there.

Whilst trying to read between the lines of what you're saying, if what you say is true, it sounds like you're saying Latinas age poorly and many fb chicas are probably younger than I think and younger than they look.

Unlike the Asians that age well, but still the over the hill at 25 yo rule applies in Asia, since Latinas don't age as well as Asians its probably only fair that number needs to be lower in Latin America, I'm going to say 22 yo.

Is over the hill for WGs for me in Latin America, in Mexico my sweet spot is definitely 18-22, same for Asia Europe USA Russia Canada.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2409904]Right after entering my apartment, she opened a beer, grabbed some tussi and stormed into the bathroom. After a while, she came out and demanded 500 k payment upfront. I'm completely dumbfounded,.[/QUOTE]I had a similar experience a few weeks back. I picked up a girl at Parque Lleras. We went back to my apartment and within 5 minutes she demands money up front. We had previously agreed to 150,000. I told her I would give her the money when she leaves.

She refused and proceeded to tell me every girl in Medellin requires payment up front. I laughed at her and told her I'm not stupid. I asked her to leave but she refused. She sat on my couch texting someone. I tried to call security but I couldn't figure out the landline LOL so I pretended I was talking to them. She told me she was calling the cops and I told her good call the cops and wait in the lobby. She got pissed off and threw a drink in my face and stormed out.

5 minutes later I had one of my previous girls from Facebook coming over to salvage the night. I decided to refrain from Parque Lleras going forward.

Oh she demanding money for time spent together LOL. 5 minutes. I didn't have any small change on me.

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For the life of me, I couldn't figure out what went wrong with that gusto girl. It could be that I'm now more aware of the system in Medellin, which scared her, she knew that I now know that I'm significantly overpaying her. For instance, she always encourage me to buy the 100 k per gram of tussi in gusto, I now get high quality stuff from my FB connections. She encourages me to buy whiskey rounds for all the working staff in gusto. I did that only once when I was super drunk, now I refuse to even entertain the idea. Other explanation is that she is so coked out of her mind, she lost the basic reasoning ability. Anyway, she will turn 22 in 3 months, by that time, she will be too old for my taste, if it needs to end soon, this way is just as good as any.[/QUOTE]I had a similar experience a few months back. A girl who I thought was a solid performer suddenly decided she was no longer going to put any effort into it. After failing to get anywhere with her and calling it quits she demanded payment in full. Refused to listen to reason and began making a scene. I eventually caved and paid her, telling her that would be last money she ever saw from me.

A week later she messages me out of the blue asking to meet again, acting like nothing had happened between us. I ignore her. She starts sending sexy photos. I respond with icy silence. Another week goes by and she messages again, apologizing for last time, promising she will act like before and that I can stay with her as long as I want. Even offers up her ass. I don't reply. She asks how she can make it up to me. I finally break my silence and say I'm going to be spending my money on other affectionate girls. She promises to behave, begging to meet, but I scorn her entreaties. She spends the next several days sending me photos of lingerie and constantly asking to meet until she finally gives up in the face of my non-responsiveness. I must admit, watching her slowly breakdown as she realized the gravity of her mistake felt better than sex with her ever did.

[QUOTE=Carrib;2407958]I will post a bit more later but I have another quick report, I am an avid cigar smoker -and for the past 3 days I have been frequenting the Habanos Point Cigar shop on Calle 10 a. The attendant is great, the poor guy is a mechanical engineer from Venezuela, speaks fluent english but the owner is an asshole. I met him (owner) yesterday, brought him a drink but the dude barely gave me the time of day. He also called and ordered the shop close early when the shop had clients spending money and watching the NFL game.

Again no scene, just taking my money elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I have been to Habanos a few times and have met the Venezuelan attendant. He is a very knowledgeable guy and I enjoyed our conversations. The owner of Habanos is a Cubano. I haven't met him. The store is OK but the selection of cigars is limited.

The attendant told me that the store got robbed last month. Couple guys on a motorbike pulled up and robbed the female attendant and the stores cash and also robbed a customer sitting outside on the patio.

After hearing that story I looked around and and said ya this place is an easy target. Right off 10 A with lots of traffic in plain site to everyone. Here I am smoking a $50 cigar, enjoying an expensive whiskey and playing with my new cell phone all in plain site.

I do like La Cava Puro just up the block from Habanos. They have a larger selection of cigars and the patio is discreet. It's on CR. 38 just off 10 A.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2410114]Kick her to the curb. You don't have to be mean about it. I'd recommend being smart about it, but as soon as a girl starts demanding anything, she's gone.[/QUOTE]You don't have to be mean, nice, smart or dumb about it. It just takes one click to block that bich. One of my favorite hobbies other than fucking them is blocking them.

The Beetles said it best. Remember, all that money is doing is renting you some pussy. Don't fool yourself that because you are paying X amount that you are getting more than me and Surf and PN and Wolf with our 30K downtown SWs!

I wouldn't even want to fuck a broad after all that arguing and back and forth. And you guys say that negotiating beforehand ruins the mood? That arguing and begging and pleading shit is a real mood ruiner. Bih you get your shit and get out. The reason to fuck with hookers in the first place is to avoid all that bs. Now you not only have the bs, but you are paying cash for it!

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2410222]I've been to mde 10 x in 2 years. I have a steady list of girls I stay in touch with. I have their social media pages. One girl always travels to miami cancun and Spain. These are obvious working places for prepagos.[/QUOTE]They are obvious drug hubs as well. The chicks could just as well be drug mules and/or thieves. I can guarantee 98% that they are not getting rich selling pussy as some of you may want to believe. Don't let social media fool you. That is the damn problem. One day these hoes showing you how they are balling and the next day they are begging for money talking about they don't have the money for rent. Get what you see on social media out of your head when dealing with these hoes.

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TsmwcXru6WY[/URL]

Funny one:

[URL]https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhjcIw7oZ0eWIMj37r[/URL]

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For the life of me, I couldn't figure out what went wrong with that gusto girl. [/QUOTE]There is no way to rationalize crazy. I think just like when people start dating that they put on their best face and personality and it takes a while to get to know them, it's not any different with these chicas hiding their craziness for a good while until it finally comes through. There is no rational reason for her to sabotage her cash cow, but there it is, she did. I probably do not have to tell you that it probably will happen again, so block her, delete her number and move on to the next chicas. A saying about fish and the sea comes to mind.

My guess would be she either got pregnant or got a BF and she realized she wasn't going to be able to keep doing what she was doing and was just hoping for one last big payday. That or drugs but I like to be optimistic.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2409904]I started out my day with a 7-hour GFE session with one of my favorite 18-year-old fb girl. She is not the hottest, but pretty enough. Her service is out of this world. We fucked for many hours. It was a great experience. Total damage, 300 k. She washed my dishes, did my laundry and made my bed.

At night time, I made an appointment with one of my favorite party girl at gusto. I have seen her at least 7 times. I always give her 500-700 k per night. (depending on my mood and her service level). We normally follow up with some hot morning sex. I have never under paid her, and I always paid in the morning by going to an ATM. For the most part, my night was going well, we drink, dance and made out just like usual. Around 3:45 am, we came back to my place, things all the sudden took an 180 degree turn.

Right after entering my apartment, she opened a beer, grabbed some tussi and stormed into the bathroom. After a while, she came out and demanded 500 k payment upfront. I'm completely dumbfounded, this is not a random girl I just picked up for the night, I have seen this girl for 7+ times. We went to lunch together, I brought her a pair of shoes (very cheap, less than 50 dollars) at the Santa Fe mall, she never had Japanese food before, I introduced her to sushi. I was piss-drunk once that I couldn't wake up in the morning, she stayed with me until late afternoon, she had the chance to empty my apartment (my apple products alone is worth many thousands, even with depreciation), but instead, she just cuddled with me for hours until I regain consciousness..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2410278]They are obvious drug hubs as well. The chicks could just as well be drug mules and/or thieves. I can guarantee 98% that they are not getting rich selling pussy as some of you may want to believe. Don't let social media fool you. That is the damn problem. One day these hoes showing you how they are balling and the next day they are begging for money talking about they don't have the money for rent. Get what you see on social media out of your head when dealing with these hoes.

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TsmwcXru6WY[/URL]

Funny one:

[URL]https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhjcIw7oZ0eWIMj37r[/URL][/QUOTE]1 in a million are very pretty and very smart and know how to find the suckers ala Dubai.

But I have seen in different places around the world some poor WGs that live in shacks (literally) will find some guy that does glam photo layouts for WGs.

At a local high end hotel pool or beach, for some amount they can afford.

Then they set up a IG acct and try to portray themselves as they are "high end" LOL.

I love when I ask "how much" and they say "I don't want to say" I ask why not? They will say,"because I'm really expensive".

I say "LMAO good luck and adios".

But we know there are low IQ mongers that will pay her price, because she must be worth it, because why else would she charge "so much".

For the guys that like to say you get what you pay for, read sjobs latest post.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2409904]I started out my day with a 7-hour GFE session with one of my favorite 18-year-old fb girl. She is not the hottest, but pretty enough. Her service is out of this world. We fucked for many hours. It was a great experience. Total damage, 300 k. She washed my dishes, did my laundry and made my bed.

At night time, I made an appointment with one of my favorite party girl at gusto. I have seen her at least 7 times. I always give her 500-700 k per night. (depending on my mood and her service level). We normally follow up with some hot morning sex. I have never under paid her, and I always paid in the morning by going to an ATM. For the most part, my night was going well, we drink, dance and made out just like usual. Around 3:45 am, we came back to my place, things all the sudden took an 180 degree turn..[/QUOTE]My take on this, first you are over paying by at least twice if not 3 times, 2. She has lost all respect for you as you have treated her too nice, yes these are putas to the bones, never ever try to think they are anything different, 4. Yes even the educated ones have little concept of keeping a good paying customer happy in the long run.

Move on which you did but damn dude because of the high price you have been paying her she is ruined / spoiled / a **** in the truest sense of the words and now she has an expectation that every other stupid gringo will pay her this amount even if she flips a switch and becomes a *****. No one wins.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2409904]I started out my day with a 7-hour GFE session with one of my favorite 18-year-old fb girl. She is not the hottest, but pretty enough. Her service is out of this world. We fucked for many hours. It was a great experience. Total damage, 300 k. She washed my dishes, did my laundry and made my bed.

At night time, I made an appointment with one of my favorite party girl at gusto. I have seen her at least 7 times. I always give her 500-700 k per night. (depending on my mood and her service level). We normally follow up with some hot morning sex. I have never under paid her, and I always paid in the morning by going to an ATM. For the most part, my night was going well, we drink, dance and made out just like usual. Around 3:45 am, we came back to my place, things all the sudden took an 180 degree turn.

Right after entering my apartment, she opened a beer, grabbed some tussi and stormed into the bathroom. After a while, she came out and demanded 500 k payment upfront. I'm completely dumbfounded, this is not a random girl I just picked up for the night, I have seen this girl for 7+ times. We went to lunch together, I brought her a pair of shoes (very cheap, less than 50 dollars) at the Santa Fe mall, she never had Japanese food before, I introduced her to sushi. I was piss-drunk once that I couldn't wake up in the morning, she stayed with me until late afternoon, she had the chance to empty my apartment (my apple products alone is worth many thousands, even with depreciation), but instead, she just cuddled with me for hours until I regain consciousness

My immediate answer to her request is, NO Fucking Way. Then she told me, OK, call me a Uber, I'm leaving. I was like, What? I made my case to her; I told her just look at my apartment, the amount of money I just spent in gusto and the total amount I have paid you so far, how could you have any doubts about my ability to pay. However, she won't budge. Then I made the most naive mistake ever, I offered to pay her half now and half later. I didn't feel like looking for an ATM at 4:30 in the morning, I only had 10 dollars and 300 k pesos in my wallet. My thinking was that she might had a bad experience recently, she just want to be more careful. After all, we knew each other for months. After receiving the 300 k, she said she will go organize, then she stormed into the bathroom again. I was ready to put this episode behind us and move on to sex. But little did I know, the fun is just about to began.

After spending couple of minutes in the bathroom, she came out with a stone cold face saying, "pay me the other 200 or call a Uber". At that very moment I knew I'm fucked, back in the days when I was a rookie monger, I use to make the mistake of giving the girls some money under the wrong negotiation condition. I put up a futile argument, mentioning all our history together and I even offered up my iPhone X and apple watch as collateral. To make things even more weird, I offered 10 dollars USD as a partial payment and she turned it down, it seems like she just want money out of the ATM. After repeatedly making the argument of my trustworthiness, she relented for about 5 minutes. She took some of her clothes off, and my hands was all over body. Then all the sudden, she pushed me away, asking for more money or no sex. She broke the Cardinal rule of prostitution. I'm fairly certain that she will keep asking for more money after receiving the 200 k, she will do this until my patient ran's out and kick her out. This is one way to maximize profit, in the very short term, without deliver the service. As long as I have a hard-on, she thinks she owns me. In the world of pay-to-play, this approach is as unethical as it gets.

I decided to cut my loss and move on to pussy hunting, after all, it is only 5 am, in Medellin there are still two places open, el fasian and paradise. I grabbed my phone and sent out 8 FB messages to the girls that have a high chance of working in the very early morning. Then I told the gusto girl: "I will never see you again, think about the opportunity cost, you are really stupid. Let's go downstairs, I will get the money and wave it in your face. Enjoy the 300 k you just robbed from me. In the long run, it is your loss". We went out to the streets at 5 am, found an ATM and I took out 400 k; ready to hit el fasian. She stood outside the ATM room waiting for me. I was angry at the time, so I waved the money in her face, she give me a look of confusion. We stood there for just a few minutes until a taxi showed up. I took the taxi directly to el fasian. From the back mirror of the taxi I can see her still standing in the middle of the street.

I found a much older blonde in el fasian, her service was OK, but she gives an amazing massage. We spent 4 hours together for 300 k. By the time she leaves, an 18-year-old FB girl is ready to come over, by 10:00 am I'm back on FB-chica day-time mode.

For the life of me, I couldn't figure out what went wrong with that gusto girl. It could be that I'm now more aware of the system in Medellin, which scared her, she knew that I now know that I'm significantly overpaying her. For instance, she always encourage me to buy the 100 k per gram of tussi in gusto, I now get high quality stuff from my FB connections. She encourages me to buy whiskey rounds for all the working staff in gusto. I did that only once when I was super drunk, now I refuse to even entertain the idea. Other explanation is that she is so coked out of her mind, she lost the basic reasoning ability. Anyway, she will turn 22 in 3 months, by that time, she will be too old for my taste, if it needs to end soon, this way is just as good as any.[/QUOTE]What went wrong is you let her know you had more money than brains and addition that you're a complete pushover. The minute a chica starts acting up, that's it. As Mr E said, immediately block her and end any contact with her. I don't care how hot she looks. If she gets bitchy and you try to be nice and reasonable, she's just going to ramp up the bitchiness.

And I guarantee this chica that you pay 500-700 k to is boning other guys for a fraction of that amount. And she probably won't try to rob / extort / pressure those guys into more money because she know's they've got some common sense.

Sorry for my harsh words, but this is ridiculous.

Totally agree. 98% are not making the kind of money some have calculated. Over 14 years I've known a lot of working girls, some very well. And sometimes there are days that go by (or more than days) where they do not get any citas. And that's girls we talk about and girls who are talked about on other boards. When they do get money, a lot of them are so vain they have to buy purses and shoes and clothes and make-up and have procedures done. Without a thought of how to pay rent and servicios. And these same girls are much too prideful to work at Fase Dos or other strip clubs or in casas. It really is unreal.

As far as the other goes. Some of these girls really do travel the world. And these are girls who are not he hottest (examples. Tatis OKehdho and Ana). It is amazing the places they go. Not sure if they have a sugar daddy or work as working girls for a lot more money. I knew one girl who went to Spain for a month to finance her new boobs. I know of another girl who many of you would know from FB who went to Miami for a month and came back with money to buy a car. I just have to laugh.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2410278]They are obvious drug hubs as well. The chicks could just as well be drug mules and/or thieves. I can guarantee 98% that they are not getting rich selling pussy as some of you may want to believe. Don't let social media fool you. That is the damn problem. One day these hoes showing you how they are balling and the next day they are begging for money talking about they don't have the money for rent....

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